We've reviewed those too (ua-cam.com/video/j3bWpU2_ro0/v-deo.html). They're very similar to the xdeep, in that they're comfortable and not as heavy as the Scubapro's, but have a softer blade. Nora prefers this as it means she can flutter kick (which I can not with the Deep 6's), but they don't have the same power as the stiffer bladed jets. If you're a holiday diver, they're nigh on perfect too.
thanks for this informative comparison.. actually I do warm water recreational diving only with 3mm wetsuit and 5mm boots.. I have SP supernova fins but still encounter poor descend ..do you this SP jet fins can be the solution ? weight for travel is not an issue..thanks in advance
No. Switching to "heavier" fins is not the answer to your concerns regarding descent. If you're properly weighted (you can perform a weight check at the end of your dive), then you'll probably find you need to try to relax a little at the beginning of the dive. To do this ensure you exhale fully as you're deflating your bcd, before resuming breathing with a normal breath. Take a few moments to practice full exhalation relaxation either on the boat or on the surface. I'm sure it will help
Hey RJ. Ironically, I've been diving with some RK3's this past week. My first time with them on my feet. They feel very much like the XDeep's, in that they're fairly flexible and soft. They offer great feel, but no where near the power that the Scubapro or Deep6's can. In a conversation with Steve and some of our clients, we've come to the conclusion that some of the manufacturers of these fins have aimed them squarely at the recreational market (specifically vacation divers) in which case they need to be fairly soft otherwise they would run the risk of causing cramps. The RK3HD is much more akin to the Scubapro though. Ultimately though it comes down to your personal usage. The Xdeeps and RK3's can be used both frog and flutter fairly easily (because of their flex). The scubapro and Deep6 are designed for frog kick only... if you're an exponent of frogging, you might find the stiffer bladed a boon for you. If you more often have a hybrid or flutter kick, the softer blade may be the direction for you. Personally, I've gotten used to the stiffer blade and could not go back to the softer ones again.... .... and to demonstrate this, Steve and I went back into diving Splitfins for a week. That's a video we shall be publishing shortly, as we answer the question "Are Splitfins really worthy of so much ridicule?"
@@DeeferDiving great review!! Yes I have a pair of the rk3 HDs, the normal rk3 are softer. They are both not as heavy in weight as the jet fins and I use them for dry suit diving in cold water. 100% frog kicking. I’m looking to buy a jet fin or deep6, xdeep, as I cannot go back to soft fins anymore as well!
Hey Mark. No, we were not able to get a set of RK3's for this test. They are however very similar to the Deep6 Eddy both in terms of stiffness/weight and positive buoyancy.
Great video, looking to buy some of these fins myself. I saw you mentioned that for drysuit, it's better to have lighter fins. What if I am prone to floaty feet? Should I get somewhat heavier fins so that my feet and legs don't float in a drysuit?
Yes. If you do suffer from floaty feet, such that it really upsets your balance, then go for slightly heavier fins. Scubapro Jets or Apeks RK3HD are good negatively buoyant options
Hi Gugi. No they were the medium version. They were good, but did not feel as though they gave the same levels of propulsion as the other two for the same effort. The blades were also quite a bit smaller too. This may also have been a factor in the lower power. That said, it was still a darned sight more than Atomic Split Fins
There are too many manufacturers to be able to review all the brands of jet fins. The tecline ones, as I understand it, are very similar to the Xdeep... but I have never dived them. What is your experience with them?
@@DeeferDiving started diving with only tecline powerjet medium hardness, great for frog kick and modify flutter, Not so good for full flutter Heavy fin that sink, since i am diving with 7m wetsuit not that big of a problem for me
A lover of the Scubapro Jetfins should give the OMS Slipstreams a try. All the structure and function of the jetfin, but less weight in your travel bag, and neutrally buoyant in the water.
We've not had access to OMS fins here for some time, but we'll be sure to check them out when we can. Are they like the RK3's in terms of lightness/buoyancy?
@@DeeferDiving Well, that's a drag. I wish I could let you borrow mine. I haven't had the opportunity to try the RK3s yet, myself. In comparison to my jetfins, which feel very heavy to me in the water, the Slipstreams make it easier to keep my fins up and my trim neutral.
Scubapro Jet Fins…60 years young and still the best-performing fins regardless of the numerous brands, types and designs in today's scuba market. I'd rather lose a kilogram of questionable or unnecessary items in order to pack my Jet Fins when travelling as they're as comfortable as slippers not like the others…flippers😂
And that is 100% Jon's view as well. Because he's worth it! Ironically, I found the Eddy's to be more comfortable, whereas Jon thought the Scubapro were, so its gotta be a base of what you get used to. Either way, if you're happy with what you're packing then everyone is a winner. Thanks for watching and even bigger thanks for adding a comment
@@DeeferDiving Thanks for replying &👌I must rrrreluctantly concede that there may be other fins that may come close to ScubaPro Jet Fins🤣😂🤣🤿👍Looking forward to more of your interesting and no BS diving content👍more safe & enjoyable bottom time to you, your team and your students😃👍
Nice video! I used to have some Turtle's and I LOVED those, but lost one in rough seas after helping a buddy out of the water who then left me hanging on the ladder while he wondered off up the hill. I've since got used to the RK3 HD and now love those. Just one quick question, how do you find the fit? A good buddy of mine had some and he was a size 10 rock boot and Jesus Christ they were difficult to get on, just didn't seem to be enough stretch in the spring strap!!
It's Gary here. I dive with the Deep6 Eddy. I'm a UK size 10 and dive with a short soft bootie (I hate the word bootie, it sounds so camp!) in a Large and they're a little on the small side. I would have preferred going up to the XL. In the Jetfins, Jon dives with an XL and they are WAAAAAAAY too small for me. I have to take the whole bootie off to get them off. The key advice - take your rockboots with you and try them on before you buy.....
@@DeeferDiving Yes, that’s certainly the ideal. Thanks for the reply and glad I found your channel! Dive safe guys and maybe I’ll get over there at some point! Andy 👍
Whilst that is true, they were incredibly heavy. Many people prefer the new ones, particularly if they want to travel. Ironically the original 'Jet Fins' were produced by Beuchat of France.
I think Jon makes it quite clear that he's a little bit biased towards his Scubapro's because they're old, comfortable and what he's used to. Gary also tested the fins off camera at the same time, and preferred the Deep 6 because of the slight positive buoyancy and better shaped foot pocket. Also the Scubapro were too small for him too (so perhaps the Deep 6 were too big for Jon?). Both agreed they did not like the XDeep though. We've got a set of the new Fourth Element Jet fins now too - so we'll be doing a review of those in the coming weeks....
The REAL ScubaPro Jet Fins are the only ones made in the USA. They’re even patented, and you will find that information printed on the underside of them. None of the “ScubaPro Jet Fins” featured in this video are actual original ScubaPro Jets. The green camo fins featured here are made in Taiwan, and they’re not the same. They’re an imitation.
The only true “Jet Fin” is the USA made (and patented, marked directly on the fin) Scuba Pro Jet Fin. All others are copies and not the same. Even the newer Scuba Pro Jet Fins made in Taiwan are a different density, weight, and flexibility. They’re NOT the same. That being said, REAL Jet Fins are HEAVY! They’re tough as nails, yes. I still have my original issued USA made Jet fins from dive school in the Navy, but they are WAY TOO HEAVY. It’s exactly why I switched to the Aqualung Rocket Fins early on (also issued from SAR School), and today use the newer Rocket Fins, the Apeks RK3 HD’s (the regular RK3’s are too soft and positively buoyant), which is not good either.
The company which first developed the Jet Fin style was French Beuchat, and whilst Scubapro called their Jet Fins the style has become ubiquitous (as most good things do). The great thing about the development is that more and more people are able to benefit from this style of fin whilst still being able to benefit from different stiffnesses, buoyancies and colours. In our test of US Scubapro Jetfins and the Deep6 Eddy's there was very little difference in weight and stiffness - but the eddy's are slightly positively buoyant in salt water. Personally, I prefer this as I don't dive dry and like to get weight off my lower limbs. If my only option for jet fins were the Scubapro ones the diving characteristics of them would have meant.... I'd probably dive splitfins.... lol
@@DeeferDiving Fin weight does not matter when diving a drysuit. So long as the fin fits the foot on the suit (whether boot or sock), you can use any fin and still be perfectly neutral, in trim, and just as effective. And split fins? 🤮😂
Hey Lee. If you want to send us a couple of pairs of those, I'd be more than happy to review and compare. I've had the opportunity to dive with the floaty RK3's (non-HD models) and I found them to be a little too floppy for me. About the same stiffness as the standard XDeep. I'd love to try to HD version though. We are looking to review a set of the new Fourth Element Tech fins shortly though... so watch this space
I'm still using the same Jet Fins for 36 years. Top fins!
Jon would be happy to know that. I suspect they're nothing like the jet fins you could buy today though
What about fourth element’s tech fins? What are the key differences?
We've reviewed those too (ua-cam.com/video/j3bWpU2_ro0/v-deo.html). They're very similar to the xdeep, in that they're comfortable and not as heavy as the Scubapro's, but have a softer blade. Nora prefers this as it means she can flutter kick (which I can not with the Deep 6's), but they don't have the same power as the stiffer bladed jets. If you're a holiday diver, they're nigh on perfect too.
thanks for this informative comparison.. actually I do warm water recreational diving only with 3mm wetsuit and 5mm boots.. I have SP supernova fins but still encounter poor descend ..do you this SP jet fins can be the solution ? weight for travel is not an issue..thanks in advance
No. Switching to "heavier" fins is not the answer to your concerns regarding descent. If you're properly weighted (you can perform a weight check at the end of your dive), then you'll probably find you need to try to relax a little at the beginning of the dive. To do this ensure you exhale fully as you're deflating your bcd, before resuming breathing with a normal breath. Take a few moments to practice full exhalation relaxation either on the boat or on the surface. I'm sure it will help
Appreciate your valuable advice. @@DeeferDiving
Great test, great video :-) maybe can you add the apeks RK3hd to your review / comparatif ?
Yes, soon as we can get a pair of them here....
Nice review. Need the RK3s in this comparison!
Hey RJ. Ironically, I've been diving with some RK3's this past week. My first time with them on my feet. They feel very much like the XDeep's, in that they're fairly flexible and soft. They offer great feel, but no where near the power that the Scubapro or Deep6's can. In a conversation with Steve and some of our clients, we've come to the conclusion that some of the manufacturers of these fins have aimed them squarely at the recreational market (specifically vacation divers) in which case they need to be fairly soft otherwise they would run the risk of causing cramps. The RK3HD is much more akin to the Scubapro though.
Ultimately though it comes down to your personal usage. The Xdeeps and RK3's can be used both frog and flutter fairly easily (because of their flex). The scubapro and Deep6 are designed for frog kick only... if you're an exponent of frogging, you might find the stiffer bladed a boon for you. If you more often have a hybrid or flutter kick, the softer blade may be the direction for you. Personally, I've gotten used to the stiffer blade and could not go back to the softer ones again....
.... and to demonstrate this, Steve and I went back into diving Splitfins for a week. That's a video we shall be publishing shortly, as we answer the question "Are Splitfins really worthy of so much ridicule?"
@@DeeferDiving great review!! Yes I have a pair of the rk3 HDs, the normal rk3 are softer. They are both not as heavy in weight as the jet fins and I use them for dry suit diving in cold water. 100% frog kicking. I’m looking to buy a jet fin or deep6, xdeep, as I cannot go back to soft fins anymore as well!
No Apeks RK3 to test/compare ?
Hey Mark. No, we were not able to get a set of RK3's for this test. They are however very similar to the Deep6 Eddy both in terms of stiffness/weight and positive buoyancy.
Great video, looking to buy some of these fins myself. I saw you mentioned that for drysuit, it's better to have lighter fins. What if I am prone to floaty feet? Should I get somewhat heavier fins so that my feet and legs don't float in a drysuit?
Yes. If you do suffer from floaty feet, such that it really upsets your balance, then go for slightly heavier fins. Scubapro Jets or Apeks RK3HD are good negatively buoyant options
Was it Xdeep Ex1 hard version fins ?
Hi Gugi. No they were the medium version. They were good, but did not feel as though they gave the same levels of propulsion as the other two for the same effort. The blades were also quite a bit smaller too. This may also have been a factor in the lower power. That said, it was still a darned sight more than Atomic Split Fins
Tecline powerjet fins?
There are too many manufacturers to be able to review all the brands of jet fins. The tecline ones, as I understand it, are very similar to the Xdeep... but I have never dived them. What is your experience with them?
@@DeeferDiving started diving with only tecline powerjet medium hardness, great for frog kick and modify flutter,
Not so good for full flutter
Heavy fin that sink, since i am diving with 7m wetsuit not that big of a problem for me
A lover of the Scubapro Jetfins should give the OMS Slipstreams a try. All the structure and function of the jetfin, but less weight in your travel bag, and neutrally buoyant in the water.
We've not had access to OMS fins here for some time, but we'll be sure to check them out when we can. Are they like the RK3's in terms of lightness/buoyancy?
@@DeeferDiving Well, that's a drag. I wish I could let you borrow mine. I haven't had the opportunity to try the RK3s yet, myself. In comparison to my jetfins, which feel very heavy to me in the water, the Slipstreams make it easier to keep my fins up and my trim neutral.
Very informative!
Glad you liked it and thank you for your feedback Hank
@@DeeferDiving I'm going to reach out in a few days by email to discuss diving in late 2021. Best time to come, ferry or air, where to stay, etc.
Scubapro Jet Fins…60 years young and still the best-performing fins regardless of the numerous brands, types and designs in today's scuba market. I'd rather lose a kilogram of questionable or unnecessary items in order to pack my Jet Fins when travelling as they're as comfortable as slippers not like the others…flippers😂
And that is 100% Jon's view as well. Because he's worth it! Ironically, I found the Eddy's to be more comfortable, whereas Jon thought the Scubapro were, so its gotta be a base of what you get used to. Either way, if you're happy with what you're packing then everyone is a winner. Thanks for watching and even bigger thanks for adding a comment
@@DeeferDiving Thanks for replying &👌I must rrrreluctantly concede that there may be other fins that may come close to ScubaPro Jet Fins🤣😂🤣🤿👍Looking forward to more of your interesting and no BS diving content👍more safe & enjoyable bottom time to you, your team and your students😃👍
Oh, and I've subbed 👍👍👍
And Thank you kind Sir! :)
Nice video! I used to have some Turtle's and I LOVED those, but lost one in rough seas after helping a buddy out of the water who then left me hanging on the ladder while he wondered off up the hill. I've since got used to the RK3 HD and now love those. Just one quick question, how do you find the fit? A good buddy of mine had some and he was a size 10 rock boot and Jesus Christ they were difficult to get on, just didn't seem to be enough stretch in the spring strap!!
It's Gary here. I dive with the Deep6 Eddy. I'm a UK size 10 and dive with a short soft bootie (I hate the word bootie, it sounds so camp!) in a Large and they're a little on the small side. I would have preferred going up to the XL. In the Jetfins, Jon dives with an XL and they are WAAAAAAAY too small for me. I have to take the whole bootie off to get them off. The key advice - take your rockboots with you and try them on before you buy.....
@@DeeferDiving Yes, that’s certainly the ideal. Thanks for the reply and glad I found your channel! Dive safe guys and maybe I’ll get over there at some point! Andy 👍
Nothing like the originals jet fins from scubapro
Whilst that is true, they were incredibly heavy. Many people prefer the new ones, particularly if they want to travel. Ironically the original 'Jet Fins' were produced by Beuchat of France.
Funny. I find my Deep 6 much more comfortable than my scubapro. And the deep 6 has more sole support.
I think Jon makes it quite clear that he's a little bit biased towards his Scubapro's because they're old, comfortable and what he's used to. Gary also tested the fins off camera at the same time, and preferred the Deep 6 because of the slight positive buoyancy and better shaped foot pocket. Also the Scubapro were too small for him too (so perhaps the Deep 6 were too big for Jon?). Both agreed they did not like the XDeep though.
We've got a set of the new Fourth Element Jet fins now too - so we'll be doing a review of those in the coming weeks....
Jetfin the original is the best 🥰
Yeah, but you're biased Yara.... :p
Definitely not the best for everyone.
Original? You mean Beuchat Jetfins?
Scubapro's in their latest version can't keep up with the Poseidon Trident fins. Neither in speed nor manuverabillity.
The REAL ScubaPro Jet Fins are the only ones made in the USA. They’re even patented, and you will find that information printed on the underside of them. None of the “ScubaPro Jet Fins” featured in this video are actual original ScubaPro Jets. The green camo fins featured here are made in Taiwan, and they’re not the same. They’re an imitation.
The only true “Jet Fin” is the USA made (and patented, marked directly on the fin) Scuba Pro Jet Fin. All others are copies and not the same. Even the newer Scuba Pro Jet Fins made in Taiwan are a different density, weight, and flexibility. They’re NOT the same. That being said, REAL Jet Fins are HEAVY! They’re tough as nails, yes. I still have my original issued USA made Jet fins from dive school in the Navy, but they are WAY TOO HEAVY. It’s exactly why I switched to the Aqualung Rocket Fins early on (also issued from SAR School), and today use the newer Rocket Fins, the Apeks RK3 HD’s (the regular RK3’s are too soft and positively buoyant), which is not good either.
The company which first developed the Jet Fin style was French Beuchat, and whilst Scubapro called their Jet Fins the style has become ubiquitous (as most good things do). The great thing about the development is that more and more people are able to benefit from this style of fin whilst still being able to benefit from different stiffnesses, buoyancies and colours. In our test of US Scubapro Jetfins and the Deep6 Eddy's there was very little difference in weight and stiffness - but the eddy's are slightly positively buoyant in salt water. Personally, I prefer this as I don't dive dry and like to get weight off my lower limbs. If my only option for jet fins were the Scubapro ones the diving characteristics of them would have meant.... I'd probably dive splitfins.... lol
@@DeeferDiving Fin weight does not matter when diving a drysuit. So long as the fin fits the foot on the suit (whether boot or sock), you can use any fin and still be perfectly neutral, in trim, and just as effective. And split fins? 🤮😂
now do rk3 HDs and SP Go Sports
Hey Lee. If you want to send us a couple of pairs of those, I'd be more than happy to review and compare. I've had the opportunity to dive with the floaty RK3's (non-HD models) and I found them to be a little too floppy for me. About the same stiffness as the standard XDeep. I'd love to try to HD version though.
We are looking to review a set of the new Fourth Element Tech fins shortly though... so watch this space
Scuba Pro Jet Weights 😂 😂 😂
They are heavy aren't they...
I think the intro was too short you need to make it like 5 minutes longer
We'll bear that in mind for the extended directors cut.. :D