I know you are keen on propagating western ideology, but what you said about China's history is too many mistakes, which are totally divorced from reality. You can't wait to play up the opposition. It's so clumsy. At least respect history. Mao was a marginal person in the early days. As you said, Chiang Kai-shek wanted to encircle Mao's regime, which really made people laugh. Moreover, Chiang Kai-shek's leadership of the Kuomintang was full of blood. You didn't say you were worried about the country at all. You even made a mistake in basic common sense. This is what the West called China Studies. In addition to ideology, it is the so-called China who is wrong and thinks he is in his own eyes. An ideological idiot like you will not know that the United States once funded communist party to support Mao Zedong and planned to give up Chiang Kai-shek. History is more than you think.
Dont mind the likely ccp bots, the cpc thing seems pretty new (and the ccp doesnt even seem to care that much). History is history no matter what anyone has to say. If they try to censor you or make fake reports to intimidate you as many channels seem to deal with, talk to other channels, and get in touch with the media to discuss the issue of possible illegal censorship, as that may involve our rights within our respective countries.
@@knightlypoleaxe2501 Yeah, ccp bots are getting really picky, it seems, even more picky than westerners about how other call their own countries or political parties. Maybe they should just relax. I just hope the channel operator knows that leaving out info to avoid harrasment by alleged bots trying to censor will only hurt the quality of their content and the channel in many cases. Just my opinion.
@@deadbydaylight3168 You clearly have not seen the amount of criticism the US and other countries get lol. Welcome to the world. If you dont like free speech, you dont need to be on youtube (you can always stay on censored authoritarian social media if you want). Just my opinion.
@@abcdedfg8340 oh please. im based in the US and i've seen it all and it's not the same when the hegemon is a white man. as for your second statement, i hop between the two although i can tell what you're trying to get at. seems to me you cant distinguish the difference from controlled free speech and no free speech. just my opinion.
Should have mentioned Mao's "四渡赤水" (crossing the Chishui River four times) around 16:30, one of the most epic moves in military history. Ain't easy to escape from a blockade/siege by enemies that's 15 times of your own size.
After reading the detailed march path of this and knowing more about the heavy groups of enemy armies surrounding Mao's army, i have to see that's really a miracle. Most people won't make it even if they have a crystal ball to see the entire field.
Great to see a continuation of the Chinese Warlord Era content in the _Real Time History_ channel. Certainly, it helps to fill out a gap in my knowledge of the period of history in this region of the world.
@@realtimehistory It'll probably have to be titled "Bringing clarity to all the confusion of the Chinese warlord era [10 hours](part 1/ 389)" or something. 😉
@@realtimehistoryI like your content but I am disappointed that you did not mention the CCP was actually created by Soviet Russia, just like they created Communist governments in Tuva, Mongolia and Korea.
Minor correction: The province that in 1933 Japanese demanded demilitarization of is called Hebei (河北), not Hubei (湖北). The province of Hubei is in the central zone of China, to the south of Henan province.
...and the map showing the province of Hebei is nowadays. Back in 1933 the province of Hebei is much smaller (basically only the southern half of nowadays Hebei, plus the city of Beijing (then Beiping)), the northern half is distributed among the Province of Chahar and Special Disctrict of Rehe.
The narrator can't even get it right. 😄 It is Not ccp. I'll let you guys find the real acronym. He is just repeating what the western propaganda media are saying.
One factor that were often overlooked even in Chinese sources was that the warlords are often unwilling to cooperate with Chiang. During some of the most famous battles of the long march, such as the assault across Jinsha river, Mao took advantages of the lack of willingness of Sichuan clique to continue the persuit outside of his borders, this also worked when he launched a deceiving attack on Yunnan
YES finally some one said it, people often blame every single thing on chiang unfairly including the corruption of the kmt, even though majority of the kmt after the war consisted entirely of warlords since majority of the kmt army was devastated after battles with the ija. and these warlords were extremely corrupt
@@NeostormXLMAX its rly complicated, chiang often take command of warlords army and get an epic L when persuing the communists. While fighting the communists, he also took the chance to consolidate control over these warlords, but most of the times the communists were able to relocate safely without a big sacrifice
une partie des seigneurs de guerre avaient subis l'influence de l'union soviétique, comme feng yuxiang, par exemple, même le guomindang avait subis l'influence des soviétiques et une bonne partie des cadres de l'armée de la beifa étaient favorables aux communistes ... la différence entre communistes et nationalistes était surtout une question de clientèle politique : les pauvres suivent le PCC et les riches, qui refusent tout changement social comme une réforme agraire, par exemple, suivent le guomindang. mais les premiers étaient largement les plus nombreux. le génie de mao tient dans sa stratégie de guerre souple et dans la politique de front unis le plus large possible pour marginaliser son adversaire ... @@tianhaoju4634
13:55 is Mao and the American journalist Edgar Snow. Snow went to visit Mao in Yan'an and interviewed him extensively. He wrote a book called "Red Star Over China" based on his experiences. It is an excellent book. One of the few first-hand accounts of the Chinese Revolution by a Western author.
Mao used a strategy called "Surround cities with villages" 農村包圍城市", basically using the "Poor country side" that is majority of China in early 20th century against the small pockets of cities that has an industry and some wealth, which on the same time based on a game of Weiqi/Go
@@stevenliu3744You Westerners are ridiculous, why do you always feel that we Chinese are surrounding you? Sorry we are not interested and we don’t have a system that you like all over the world, how can we surround you? It is obvious that you surrounded, suppressed and smeared China. China is a country with a history of 5,000 years. The dynasties established by the Chinese have never invaded any country since ancient times. China even became their protectorate. A Chinese dynasty has a history of hundreds of years. This is enough to prove that China is peace-loving. What China is doing now is to take back what belongs to it within its own scope. Is it wrong? Unlike you, the West, who have plundered and colonized the world for nearly a hundred years, China is also one of the victims. Don’t be a thief, okay?
@@tedl922 for me. The whole Mao vs Chiang look similar to ancient war between Liu Bang vs Xiang Yu during the Chu Han contention. Liu Bang is a ruffian deadbeat but charismatic meanwhile Xiang Yu was an educated war hero but arrogant. Liu Bang is a bit like Mao while Xiang Yu is Chiang. Mao had alot of capable loyal generals while Xiang Yu were surrounded by men who were incompetent and self serving
I highly encourage you to learn more about the long march, that's nearly a mission impossible. Unlikely what's shown in this video, the red army are usually facing warlords both front and back, overwhelming in size. It's nearly a miracle they could make it repeatedly to flee from the encircling and made through. I wouldn't make it even in game.
Research the May 4th Movement, it was foundational to all of Modern China. Search the lives of Cai Yuanpei, Chen Duxiu and Li Dazhao. Most revolutionaries were young and had big hopes for China during that period, when China first became aware of science, education and democracy. Most of the late politics before and after the war were initial demands started back during May 4th. They also explain why China's revolution freed women from their traditional roles in China, whereas it didn't in other socialist countries.
China owes a lot to Mao. From the Communist Revolution to now, the country freed itself from the yoke and exploitation of European colonialist powers, also from supersitition, socialç e economic chaos, backwardness and rampant corruption, and today it is the second economy in the world, the largest manufacturer, exporter, sending rovers to the moon and to Mars, and is the BIGGEST CREDITOR OF THE UNITED STATES. I'd like Brasil have one Mao!
The unity of opposites is actually a principle in dialectics that Mao took from Lenin's writings on philosophy, not Sun Tzu. In later interviews he actually said most of his military writings didn't come from Sun Tzu at all, but from applying dialectics to military strategy.
It's also a very old concept in Daoism, let's not be so Eurocentric, OK? Sure: there's a Western concept of dialectics (which is not Lenin's, not even Marx' it goes all the way to the ancient Greeks and is maybe even older) but there's also an Eastern tradition of such ideas, which is essentially independent (even if it did not evolve independently into Marxism, I'm sure we can find many native precursors, much like we find them in the West too).
Correct, but Real Time History and the World War Two channel don't read any Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, or Mao so they don't know anything about socialist theory.
@@LuisAldamiz I was under the impression that Mao drew from all of these influences. there's an interesting conceptual overlap between Hegelian philosophy and Daoist thought
Very objective video without traditional western biases. The reason why KMT failed is losing support from Chinese peasants . Roc was still an old empire controlled by landlords. The majority of Chinese people were peasants and they struggled in starvation, which gave CCP a chance to strive.
@@Paochinblog Lol under Mao China's population went from 546 mil -> 916 mil in 25 years This was the largest growth in china's population percentagewise throughout history You can check that statistics below they are taken directly from wikipedia 1900 400,000,000 1928 474,780,000 1950 546,815,000 1975 916,395,000 1982 1,008,180,000 2000 1,262,645,000 2005 1,303,720,000 2010 1,337,825,000 The mao killed X million people, comes from a number that a guy basically made up, yes people starved to death under Mao, but more people starved to death before Mao when the landlords owned all the land. But the statistics show that people under Mao died less than they did before mao thus resulting in a 400 mil pop increase over 23 years
@@krellio9006 What i remember reading is that the prc was trying to industrialize. And at the time, the main thing they could export in exchange for industrial technology and assistance was food. I do not know the details of how it worked, someone else may know more.
@@abcdedfg8340 also they sold every bit of steel and scrap they could find to soviet too just for national prestige that "China can into industry too!"
You even mentioned the white terror in 1927. Thank you for your neutral and objective introduction to History of China ❤ You are a respected historical disseminator
My grandfather's brother died in the Chinese Civil War, but none of his relatives resented the Communist Party. Because at that time, even if it was necessary to collect military rations, Mao's army would write grain IOUs and mobilize people to voluntarily protect their hometown, rather than forcibly taking others as soldiers like Chiang Kai shek's army (like Ukraine now). Chiang Kai shek lost the support of the peasant class, which made him almost lose everything.
@criszis If your definition of "draft"is equivalent to kidnaping random mens on the street then the Chiang Kai shek style draft do make a perfect comparison with what Ukraine has been doing since a few month after the war started. So yea, like Ukraine now.
In fact, Ukraine's conscription primarily started with individuals who had military experience, and it was relatively fair for most of the nation. In contrast, Chiang Kai-shek and all other warlords in China followed the ancient Chinese conscription method, forcibly enlisting individuals. Many people died before even reaching the military units. Additionally, at that time, apart from the CCP, most warlord forces had significant issues with embezzlement and officers withholding military pay, leading to many Nationalist soldiers not getting enough to eat. Comparatively, the CCP's forces were more democratic in this regard. Once funds reached the grassroots units, they were managed democratically, ensuring that grassroots soldiers ate better than Nationalist soldiers. This is also one of the reasons for the Communist Party's strong military combat capability.
chiang looted the whole country with releasing fake money and left all people straving,they just carry all the treasure of china and fled to taiwan.they accept the us protection, knowing that the us want us to be divided.and the first lady even suggest to the american once that they should nuke the mainland.that's why people don't want them to lead.useless.
8:17 those were KMT soldiers. mao's red army never had any soviet military equipment until korea war. during the war against japanese, soviet weapons from USSR were distributed to KMT troops, not red army.
China owes a lot to Mao. From the Communist Revolution to now, the country freed itself from the yoke and exploitation of European colonialist powers, also from supersitition, socialç e economic chaos, backwardness and rampant corruption, and today it is the second economy in the world, the largest manufacturer, exporter, sending rovers to the moon and to Mars, and is the BIGGEST CREDITOR OF THE UNITED STATES. I'd like Brasil have one Mao!
@@Magno_o_Mago-iz1we Brazil doesn't have 45 million to spare. If brazil has a "great leap forward" _incident_ with numbers it would be 1/4 people dead.
This video only mentions the could-be things Red Army maybe have done in the long march, but ignores totally what KMT have done in JiangXi, a total revenge slaughter, in which many former red region villagers were slaughtered empty, goverment supported massacre.
Chang literally said "(here) every stone must be fired, and every bloodline must be cut". A tyrant that should be nailed on shame if he isn't a sweet ally of the United States
@@王方悦 Even in Taiwan/ROC, i heard Chiang Kai shek is quite controversial in terms of how he governed the country. What do you think about how the CCP conducted itself during the civil war (from a strictly historical viewpoint, I am not justifying any bad behavior during that civil war, it was a tough time for many people), because civil wars based on what I read can often be very tragic for all involved.
I doubt this was any worse than what king Leopold did in the Congo, or what Europe did during the onslaught on Africa and the enslavement of human beings for profit, or the genocide of Native Americans to usurp their land.
@@xinlugong-wv5yy I think taiwan has a more open debate on what both sides did. There seems to be a strong awareness that chiang kai shek could be quite ruthless, but also that mao and the ccp seems to have been quite ruthless as well. But having said that it was a civil war, and civil wars seem to be rough on civilians regardless of their personal allegiances. I think you are lucky you can discuss this as history rather than experiencing it in person. You may want to learn more about the refugees that fled the ccp, leaving for hong kong or taiwan. It could reveal more about the historical truth of the matter.
and being as brutal, ignorant and oppressive as a human can be helped too. mao destroyed china. taiwan is real china. mainland is mao's china where he destroyed every bit of Chinese history he could find and to this day, it's just mao hangover china. the leaders are all still mao educated which means: the education, emotional stability and maturity of your average elemetary school child
Great piece, Jesse, and nice to see you bring your talented narrative to this chapter of world history. You do such a wonderful job of laying out the sequence of events where each clearly sets the context for what follows while all the time using that gift for modulation to place just the right emphasis on just the right phrase to make your point. One imagines that yours would be the most popular class on any campus.
@2:53 Chiang KaiShek (CKS) has never studied military theory in Moscow. Instead he studied military subjects in Japan and studying in a Japanese military academy.
Funniest part, he didn't study at a proper Japanese Military Academy unlike many of the KMT warlords. But a lesser tuition under the Japanese Military academy and didn't actually graduate, because he wasn't the best student. During a meet up of the ex Japanese Academy graduate club organised by many KMT generals, many alumni was surprised to hear Chiang was amongst the list despite never meeting him. However due to Chiang donating a large sum to the club and the fact that he is the Generalissimo, they just tolerate his presence.
the only youtube video and comment section that doesn't give me a seizure on how little westeners know about china, and using that as an excuse to randomly produce hate and straight up misinformation
How was he treated during the "cultural revolution"? I heard the CCP faction under general Peng Dehuai that advocated for a more active role against the Japanese was later purged.
@LeckMichImArsch my father was protected by his students. The west misleading the culture revolution. It was a power take over between 2 fractions in the communist party. All that other BS outside just to draw the attention away from it. The west never till today told the truth about culture revolution. Tens of thousands of high school and college students die between clashes between each other. Don't believe a thing the West says. Lies
This seems perfectly obvious! I think we have to work hard to NOT understand it! Also talking about Taiwan in terms of "Democracy" is pretty special, requires history to start on a specific day to make your argument. If someone has ONE election we might call them a democracy, if we approve of the election result.
@@leonardpearlman4017 Taiwan's "democratic" politics may have been worthy of China's observation and learning 20 years ago, but now? DPP is the most corrupt political party in the world.
Interesting how you chose to not mention how the kmt left the people of Nanking to defend themselves as they fled before the Japanese. Where as the commies fought where they could. That is a big factor of why the commies had more support
The term "landlords" is somewhat of a misnomer intends to create a sense of some sympathy for us in the capitalists West. Many of the great landlords were little more than slave owners.
@@dirremoire that might be for your small eastern mind, but by the middle of the XX century landlords were owners with close ties to politicians just like today.
Great video! The best I've ever seen made by an English channel from a perspective of west culture. Chairman Mao was probably the greatest strategist ever in human history. However, we must know that his thinking "serve the people wholeheartedly" is actually THE key feature that distinguishes the Chinese Red Army and PLA nowadays from all other armies. The people's army is undefeatable! Found bugs: 1. On 8:40, the second man from the right in the photo is Zhu De (朱德), not Zhou Enlai (周恩来) 2. On 11:13, it should be He Bei (河北) province, not Hu Bei (湖北)
11:16 This is the map of Hubei Province today, which is completely different from the boundary of Hebei Province at that time. The empty area in the middle is the capital Beijing and the municipality directly under the Central Government Tianjin. At the same time, Rehe Province was also revoked in history and merged into Hubei and Shanxi.
Your team's work is always quality, in-depth history. I decided to get Nebula through the Real Time History deal, though it's likely to benefit me moreso than you. Looking forward to Red Atoms.
in chinese long history, only a few men could rise from commoner to emperor or Supreme leaders...ie. Liu bang, liu yu, zhu yuan zhang and Mao Zedong.....therefore, no matter you like him or not, Mao is really a genius
Chiang Kai-shek was able to tolerate the warlords and get their troops and support because he had to keep going to war with the warlords to control each city. But this ultimately led to calculations that weren't for the government and the country during the civil war between the Communist Party and the Kuomintang, resulting in many warlords surrendering or betraying the Communist Party.
As a Chinese, I am shocked by the objectivity of this video. This is the first time in my two years abroad that I have seen an objective video about Chinese history.
@IronMan-r5o6f 中华人民共和国 is different of 中国, one says people republic of China and the other is China, the difference is that the PRC 🇨🇳 is only the mainland excluding the ROC, Hong Kong and Macau, “China” is the PRC, HK, Macau and ROC together, the ROC is the Republic of China 🇹🇼, which includes Taiwan, all the islands right under Okinawa(excluding Okinawa itself), all the Chinese island and the 11 line in the South-China sea. Taiwan is not a country, the ROC🇹🇼 is. China is not a country, the PRC🇨🇳 is.
Chiang only wanted to be a ruler and enjoy wealth and power but not save the country. Truman detested him so much because Chiang was too corrupt, Americans gave him a lot of aid in the form of weapons and money, then they found Chiang saved the money in American bank for interests and sold the weapons back to USA.
It always makes me wonder about the old film footage who's behind the camera how they get these moments, and how they protect the film all these years and keep all the equipment in working order or not get stolen
Great video! Soviet support to Li Lisan is the very beginning of the Sino-Soviet split. Not the only cause but the first of a series of events that would corrode the Sino-Soviet relationship. Soviet Union also tried to flirt with Chiang himself for a while. I read that Mao was expelled from the party, his CCP was not the same of Li's. PS. Only negative remark I have is on 24:00 when the Japanese surrender is (unintentionally?) framed as a direct consequence of the A bombings. There is no consensus on this and the logic seems to point to another direction (Japanese surrender after the Soviet Union sweeping through Manchuria and menacing the invasion of Hokkaido) + diplomatic impossibility of Japan getting a not so bad deal with the US using the "neutral" Soviet mediation.
@@xingw9358 There is no pollution, his failure is destined, and no political entity in the world can avoid class and corruption. Mao attempted to change this phenomenon
He was indeed extremely inventive. I think it was his lack of formal military training that made him that way. He read of lot of military history. But in the end he had to figure out everything himself based on the circumstances at hand. As a result, he did a lot of unexpected things that totally confounded Chiang Kai Shek.
The Long March is incredible. To a certain extent, there would be no Chinese Communist Party without Mao Zedong. If Mao Zedong was not in Jiangxi at that time, the Communist Party might have been wiped out by Chiang Kai-shek’s Kuomintang troops.
One of my friend's great-grandfathers was in The Long March with the 1st Division. They did walk the distance they claimed and had a few major battles.
Wrong: It was not "the West and Japan went to war with China, and defeated China" Correction: It was "the West and Japan invaded China, and defeated China".
@@gamincaimin9954 War seem a neutral word ，blurred the purpose and nature of the behavior . German invaded Poland ，German went to war with Poland，feel the different？
@@kaimingraymondchoi9909 The "haha" you put at the end of your sentence makes you look like a 🤡. Without the "help" of Japan, the United States could not have participated in World War II; without the "help" of Germany, the Soviet Union could not have become a superpower. Is this the logic you want others to know from the translator?😅 Are you trying to say that the U.S. supports the KMT in launching a civil war in order to justify the occupation by Mao Zedong? Then you are really a "little smart ghost". I am afraid that "indirect help" does not even count.😅
@@truthzhao The Soviet Union also assisted the Kuomintang funnily enough. They wanted to keep China divided for the most part to prevent stability and Stalin also preferred Chiang Kai Shek at the time. He wasn't so fond of Mao Zedong.
As an Indian, I found Mao to be a great strategist and tremendous farseeing guy. I literally wish if we could go back in time 100 years back and instead of negotiator Gandhi, someone like Mao be there to fight for your Independence then the peasant class which was no better than Chinese or even worser due to constant artificial famines along with the whole working class, students, youth & of course the fragmented armed rebellious groups in every pockets could have been united and then even moderates too would join like the same fiere wind & tempest taking advantage of its high rural hinterland surrounding the few Colonial Cities and if would succeed either we be could have been freed as a unified Republic without any partition or even internal power strifes and so a true Independence dismantling all colonial legacy systems which continues till this very day.
Hard to believe now, but I believe India and China will have pretty decent relations in the not distant future. We will grow together. That said, on the ground, person-to-person level, I think your average Indian will hate China for a long time
@@dunzhen The original quote is from a speech he said to students from uni once. He said:" The world is ours, and ir is also yours, but eventually it will be yours. Young generation like you are like sun in the morning, up in the sky, you will eventually shine as the sun"
18:00 I must point out even the numbers may have exaggerated elements about the Long March, there was a conversion error The number of "twelve thousand" frequently used in Mainland sources is counted in old Chinese miles, which roughly converted to 400~450 meters So according to the number claimed by CCP the actual travel distance is about 4800-5200km
no. The official claim is 25000 Chinese miles, which convert to 12500 km as the video says. But this is not the distance of the main route, but the combined distance marched by all red army units since start of long march.
I don't think I'll ever understand Chiang Kai-Shek. 😕 He reminds me of that fanatic Catholic South Vietnamese dictator that Americans liquidated. Men who cannot compromise and be pragmatic when the need arises should never lead countries.
I had the same feeling! Chiang seemed a downright dictator. China might have been a totally different country should Sun Yat-Sen had lived longer or should Chiang not be the successor of Sun.
c'est très facile à comprendre : la majorité de ses officiers et de sa clientèle étaient des propriétaires de terre ... en 1926, durant le début de la bei fa, les organisations de paysans, soutenues par le PCC, commencent à se saisir des terres dans le sillage des armées remontant depuis guangzhou. les nationalistes ont tout simplement réalisé en avril 1927 un pivotement d'alliance : abandonner l'alliance soviétique pour récupérer l'alliance avec les puissances impérialistes anticommunistes. qui l'ont reconnus et leur ont prêté l'argent dont ils avaient besoin pour continuer la guerre. même en 1948, les nationalistes refusent toute réforme agraire ... toutes les grandes révolutions de l'aire moderne ( france, mexique, russie, chine ) ont eu la question du terrain pour question centrale .
slight nit pick, the party's official name is the Communist Party of China (CPC) not CCP, despite the later acronym commonly being used by the media and western public.
Question, doesnt the ccp use the cpc and cpp acronyms interchangeably? The chinese characters literally read chinese communist party lol. I dont think it really matters tbh, do you refer to the democrats, or many other political parties by their official names? Its probably more trouble than its worth.
@@abcdedfg8340 No. Only the West uses CCP as propaganda term. The CPC would not call themselves CCP, it would be like USA calling themselves American United States (AUS).
Its official acronym is the CCP before it changed to CPC for propaganda purposes as the CPC acronym doesn't have as much bad associated with it unlike the CCP
@@G.A.C_Preserve Wrong. That would make zero sense for the party to be called Chinese Communist Party because they are already Chinese. That's like the Republican Party calling itself American Republican Party or the Democratic Party calling itself American Democratic Party. Both Parties are of the United States, just as the Communist Party of China. Even, the United States once had a Communist Party. It would be proper to be refer to as Communist Party of United States. No one called them American Communist Party.
people like Gerorge Bush Senior, who only have to show up at the table to get fed, frequently "don't like money." in 92 years i have never met a peasant who did not love money dearly, vecause they knew its power.
This history explains why China has always sided with southern countries in resisting imperialist colonialism, because China empathizes with their experiences.
As a Chinese, I am very happy that you can explain this history without any political position, I like your video, it is the most correct video about China that I have seen on UA-cam
Hope you cover Afghanistan civil war in 1920s and rise of King Zahir Shah who would lead most prosperous time in the country's history. Sad how things turned so bad which still being felt today.
My grandpa Wu Wei from Taishan Guangdong Province, born 1921 was part of the PLA and served in the war against Japanese occupation, chinas civil war against the KMT, and later went on to serve in the 27th company of the people’s volunteers army in the war of aiding Korea against American aggression. Glory to the motherland. 🇨🇳✊🏼💪🏼 Glory to the patriots, liberators, revolutionaries and workers of the world! Long live the revolution! May the revolutionary spirit of Mao Zedong live on forever!
American aggression? The whole reason we went into Korea was because of North Korea's aggression against the South. South Korea is a thriving democracy with one of the best economies in the world, whereas North Korea is a poverty-stricken Communist hellhole ruled by a despot.
The producers of the video simply don't understand that an army in such dire straits and short of numbers would have been finished long ago if it had not been for the voluntary support and help of the local people during the Long March, but rather for the so-called coercion and blackmail.
Mao is The legend. The great leader, One of the top level grand strategist of all time. Look at what he had at the begining, he was a middle school tutor, he led a bunch of uprising farmers, his enemy discribe him as mountain bandit . And now, his portrait is in second largest country's currency. His teaching spread from china to japan , cuba, latin america and africa. His former enemies keep spreading insult rumor about him even he is dead for decades. Western power are so afraid of him that western media demonize him into tyrant and butcher . But history will never end. The more infamous Mao's name in western media , the more proof that maoism is a terrifying weapon against colonialism .
@@osjjsm4364 He was a dictator and not a dictator; he alone decided and promoted the misguided tragedy of the Cultural Revolution, but these actions were not intended to secure his power and position.
@@osjjsm4364 What makes you think dictator must be bad . Are you sure your critical thinking skill is not being turned off when talking about certain topics? I think you may have been affected by some kind of political propaganda.
@@李卓群It's true. Chiang studied warfare at the Tokyo Shinbu Gakko, a preparatory school for the Imperial Japanese Army Academny, which was intended for Chinese students. It was there that he was introduced to revolutionary anti-Qing nationalism. In fact, Chiang served in the IJA after graduating, and did so from 1909 to 1911. He only returned to China to join the Wuchang uprising. He wouldn't study in Moscow until 1923.
As a Chinese. I think what you say is objective and true. I've seen a lot of videos that are biased and not objective. Your video surprised me. You're a true history teller.👍
Even this one is not 100% objective, maybe because the maker doesn't have full insight of the ccp history, especially during the long march. But you are right, this is already the most objective one on UA-cam
@@haoyangsun3278 I'm just saying that what he said was objective. There's no problem with that. It is not a question of who should educate. History is so objective. No matter how many people betray history, forget the truth, deceive themselves. What he said was objective.
My grandfather joined PLA in the young age and liberate Shandong province and the capital city Nanjing. He was a signal corp in army. My grandpa joined the large support teams which were consisted by peasants, helped the PLA wined the Huaihai battle.
This is why China became a socialist country after a brief capitalist society. China's capitalist regime fled to Taiwan Province of China. The contradiction between the Chinese Communist Party and the Republic of China has not yet been resolved. This is Taiwan question.This is the contradiction between the Chinese Communist Party and the Republic of China. China is still in civil war.
China and most civilizations which traded goods were always capitalist. Chinese Tang Dynasty was perhaps the most successful open capitalist Dynasty from China. Visit any bazaar in Iran or India and you'll know. Marx and Engels' ideology is a product of the European Industrial Revolution. Communism is the new ideology. IT'S premise was so appealing because the world was faced with deadly American and British capitalists who had no regard for human life or suffering. The Germans and Nordic countries incorporated Communism into their Democratic social welfare systems. The British into their labour market. Lenin and Mao went all out of course 😀.
dude, you mixed up Hubei Province with Hebei Province, and also used the modern PRC version of the map, wtf. the guy you labeled as Zhou Enlai at 8:37 is actually Zhu De, once again, wtf.
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I know you are keen on propagating western ideology, but what you said about China's history is too many mistakes, which are totally divorced from reality. You can't wait to play up the opposition. It's so clumsy. At least respect history. Mao was a marginal person in the early days. As you said, Chiang Kai-shek wanted to encircle Mao's regime, which really made people laugh. Moreover, Chiang Kai-shek's leadership of the Kuomintang was full of blood. You didn't say you were worried about the country at all. You even made a mistake in basic common sense. This is what the West called China Studies. In addition to ideology, it is the so-called China who is wrong and thinks he is in his own eyes. An ideological idiot like you will not know that the United States once funded communist party to support Mao Zedong and planned to give up Chiang Kai-shek. History is more than you think.
Dont mind the likely ccp bots, the cpc thing seems pretty new (and the ccp doesnt even seem to care that much). History is history no matter what anyone has to say. If they try to censor you or make fake reports to intimidate you as many channels seem to deal with, talk to other channels, and get in touch with the media to discuss the issue of possible illegal censorship, as that may involve our rights within our respective countries.
1:50 >CCP instead of CPC
:l
@@knightlypoleaxe2501 Yeah, ccp bots are getting really picky, it seems, even more picky than westerners about how other call their own countries or political parties. Maybe they should just relax. I just hope the channel operator knows that leaving out info to avoid harrasment by alleged bots trying to censor will only hurt the quality of their content and the channel in many cases. Just my opinion.
It's really really hard to find anything unbiased on China these days. As someone who research Chinese history, thanks for doing this
Unbiased? He used CCP, the derogative term used by western media to refer the Communist Party of China (CPC)!
it's that asian hate, my boy. people will hate what's power or what they can't control.
@@deadbydaylight3168 You clearly have not seen the amount of criticism the US and other countries get lol. Welcome to the world. If you dont like free speech, you dont need to be on youtube (you can always stay on censored authoritarian social media if you want). Just my opinion.
@@abcdedfg8340 oh please. im based in the US and i've seen it all and it's not the same when the hegemon is a white man. as for your second statement, i hop between the two although i can tell what you're trying to get at. seems to me you cant distinguish the difference from controlled free speech and no free speech. just my opinion.
Stop arguing!
Should have mentioned Mao's "四渡赤水" (crossing the Chishui River four times) around 16:30, one of the most epic moves in military history. Ain't easy to escape from a blockade/siege by enemies that's 15 times of your own size.
After reading the detailed march path of this and knowing more about the heavy groups of enemy armies surrounding Mao's army, i have to see that's really a miracle.
Most people won't make it even if they have a crystal ball to see the entire field.
This has been a miracle in human Military history
yes, especially Mao did not have satalites support
@@王方悦 crystal ball? actually he has one, it's called 奇门遁甲。Mao is a real expert of all most everything, an unbeatable person
I am a Chinese. Chairman MAO is great in all aspects
Great to see a continuation of the Chinese Warlord Era content in the _Real Time History_ channel. Certainly, it helps to fill out a gap in my knowledge of the period of history in this region of the world.
and this is just the first episode of an ever wider series that will last until the end of the Chinese Civil War
@@realtimehistory
It'll probably have to be titled "Bringing clarity to all the confusion of the Chinese warlord era [10 hours](part 1/ 389)" or something. 😉
@@realtimehistoryI like your content but I am disappointed that you did not mention the CCP was actually created by Soviet Russia, just like they created Communist governments in Tuva, Mongolia and Korea.
@@realtimehistory eagerly waiting for new videos
@@bone3594 Unless you win and become the government 😉
sending this to my landlord
Based
Indeed.
better dead than red
@@kevinspacey5325Alright then. But don't complain.
@@Sigma-xb6kn Communism is never the answer.
Minor correction: The province that in 1933 Japanese demanded demilitarization of is called Hebei (河北), not Hubei (湖北). The province of Hubei is in the central zone of China, to the south of Henan province.
...and the map showing the province of Hebei is nowadays. Back in 1933 the province of Hebei is much smaller (basically only the southern half of nowadays Hebei, plus the city of Beijing (then Beiping)), the northern half is distributed among the Province of Chahar and Special Disctrict of Rehe.
也就这个时候，蒋介石做了一件事吧，花园口决堤😮
The narrator can't even get it right. 😄
It is Not ccp. I'll let you guys find the real acronym.
He is just repeating what the western propaganda media are saying.
Austria/Australia. will they never learn?
One factor that were often overlooked even in Chinese sources was that the warlords are often unwilling to cooperate with Chiang. During some of the most famous battles of the long march, such as the assault across Jinsha river, Mao took advantages of the lack of willingness of Sichuan clique to continue the persuit outside of his borders, this also worked when he launched a deceiving attack on Yunnan
YES finally some one said it,
people often blame every single thing on chiang unfairly including the corruption of the kmt, even though majority of the kmt after the war consisted entirely of warlords since majority of the kmt army was devastated after battles with the ija. and these warlords were extremely corrupt
@@NeostormXLMAX its rly complicated, chiang often take command of warlords army and get an epic L when persuing the communists. While fighting the communists, he also took the chance to consolidate control over these warlords, but most of the times the communists were able to relocate safely without a big sacrifice
une partie des seigneurs de guerre avaient subis l'influence de l'union soviétique, comme feng yuxiang, par exemple, même le guomindang avait subis l'influence des soviétiques et une bonne partie des cadres de l'armée de la beifa étaient favorables aux communistes ... la différence entre communistes et nationalistes était surtout une question de clientèle politique : les pauvres suivent le PCC et les riches, qui refusent tout changement social comme une réforme agraire, par exemple, suivent le guomindang. mais les premiers étaient largement les plus nombreux. le génie de mao tient dans sa stratégie de guerre souple et dans la politique de front unis le plus large possible pour marginaliser son adversaire ... @@tianhaoju4634
That’s Chiang’s fault for relying on warlords lol
le clan song, c'est pas des seigneurs de la guerre ... @@NeostormXLMAX
13:55 is Mao and the American journalist Edgar Snow. Snow went to visit Mao in Yan'an and interviewed him extensively. He wrote a book called "Red Star Over China" based on his experiences. It is an excellent book. One of the few first-hand accounts of the Chinese Revolution by a Western author.
This book is also one of the required reading books for Chinese students, the kind to be tested, at least the textbook version I learned is like this
@@糖荔才没有，中国学生99.99%都不知道这本书的存在
@@糖荔是什么时期的必读书目？我不确定以前是不是，但是我从来没听说过这本书。我是中国人，05年开始上小学。我的学生生涯必读书目以东西方名著为主，包括三国演义，老人与海，简爱，呼啸山庄和莫泊桑的短篇小说集等等。
@@davidbosak7503 "snow"
I know to not trust what is written
There’s another less known book by an American journalist Jake Belden, China Shakes the World.
Mao used a strategy called "Surround cities with villages" 農村包圍城市", basically using the "Poor country side" that is majority of China in early 20th century against the small pockets of cities that has an industry and some wealth, which on the same time based on a game of Weiqi/Go
This is what Taliban did in 2021 and they were controlling rural areas for last 10-15 years waiting for the US to leave
And look at what China is doing now: corporate with 3rd world countries to surround USA and the west😂
@@stevenliu3744You Westerners are ridiculous, why do you always feel that we Chinese are surrounding you? Sorry we are not interested and we don’t have a system that you like all over the world, how can we surround you? It is obvious that you surrounded, suppressed and smeared China. China is a country with a history of 5,000 years. The dynasties established by the Chinese have never invaded any country since ancient times. China even became their protectorate. A Chinese dynasty has a history of hundreds of years. This is enough to prove that China is peace-loving. What China is doing now is to take back what belongs to it within its own scope. Is it wrong? Unlike you, the West, who have plundered and colonized the world for nearly a hundred years, China is also one of the victims. Don’t be a thief, okay?
At the end of the day is about resources for wars. He was smart enough to figure things out.
@@tedl922 for me. The whole Mao vs Chiang look similar to ancient war between Liu Bang vs Xiang Yu during the Chu Han contention. Liu Bang is a ruffian deadbeat but charismatic meanwhile Xiang Yu was an educated war hero but arrogant. Liu Bang is a bit like Mao while Xiang Yu is Chiang. Mao had alot of capable loyal generals while Xiang Yu were surrounded by men who were incompetent and self serving
Well done! I've read a few books on this topic and I learned new info , plus your clips and photos are amazing
I know so little about this period. Thank you for making this! (:
I highly encourage you to learn more about the long march, that's nearly a mission impossible.
Unlikely what's shown in this video, the red army are usually facing warlords both front and back, overwhelming in size. It's nearly a miracle they could make it repeatedly to flee from the encircling and made through.
I wouldn't make it even in game.
Research the May 4th Movement, it was foundational to all of Modern China.
Search the lives of Cai Yuanpei, Chen Duxiu and Li Dazhao. Most revolutionaries were young and had big hopes for China during that period, when China first became aware of science, education and democracy. Most of the late politics before and after the war were initial demands started back during May 4th. They also explain why China's revolution freed women from their traditional roles in China, whereas it didn't in other socialist countries.
China owes a lot to Mao. From the Communist Revolution to now, the country freed itself from the yoke and exploitation of European colonialist powers, also from supersitition, socialç e economic chaos, backwardness and rampant corruption, and today it is the second economy in the world, the largest manufacturer, exporter, sending rovers to the moon and to Mars, and is the BIGGEST CREDITOR OF THE UNITED STATES. I'd like Brasil have one Mao!
The unity of opposites is actually a principle in dialectics that Mao took from Lenin's writings on philosophy, not Sun Tzu. In later interviews he actually said most of his military writings didn't come from Sun Tzu at all, but from applying dialectics to military strategy.
Even the references from Clauswitz came from Lenin, who often referenced him and referred to him as the time periods most profound military thinker.
in china ,someone believes mao is not Marxist，a Legalists follower
It's also a very old concept in Daoism, let's not be so Eurocentric, OK? Sure: there's a Western concept of dialectics (which is not Lenin's, not even Marx' it goes all the way to the ancient Greeks and is maybe even older) but there's also an Eastern tradition of such ideas, which is essentially independent (even if it did not evolve independently into Marxism, I'm sure we can find many native precursors, much like we find them in the West too).
Correct, but Real Time History and the World War Two channel don't read any Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, or Mao so they don't know anything about socialist theory.
@@LuisAldamiz I was under the impression that Mao drew from all of these influences. there's an interesting conceptual overlap between Hegelian philosophy and Daoist thought
Small error. At 8:40, the man on the right is not ZHOU Enlai, he is ZHU De, who was the Red Army commander.
exact. like mistaking Kissinger for Eisenhower.
Very objective video without traditional western biases. The reason why KMT failed is losing support from Chinese peasants . Roc was still an old empire controlled by landlords. The majority of Chinese people were peasants and they struggled in starvation, which gave CCP a chance to strive.
the irony is after the war is over Mao send food over to soviet instead of feeding its people :)))))
And after peasants served their purpose, many were killed during the cultural revolution. Now CCP is the biggest landlord in the whole of China
@@Paochinblog Lol under Mao China's population went from 546 mil -> 916 mil in 25 years
This was the largest growth in china's population percentagewise throughout history
You can check that statistics below they are taken directly from wikipedia
1900 400,000,000
1928 474,780,000
1950 546,815,000
1975 916,395,000
1982 1,008,180,000
2000 1,262,645,000
2005 1,303,720,000
2010 1,337,825,000
The mao killed X million people, comes from a number that a guy basically made up, yes people starved to death under Mao, but more people starved to death before Mao when the landlords owned all the land.
But the statistics show that people under Mao died less than they did before mao thus resulting in a 400 mil pop increase over 23 years
@@krellio9006 What i remember reading is that the prc was trying to industrialize. And at the time, the main thing they could export in exchange for industrial technology and assistance was food. I do not know the details of how it worked, someone else may know more.
@@abcdedfg8340 also they sold every bit of steel and scrap they could find to soviet too
just for national prestige that "China can into industry too!"
You even mentioned the white terror in 1927. Thank you for your neutral and objective introduction to History of China ❤ You are a respected historical disseminator
Battle of Chishui River is the most epic and miracle battle in modern history, no doubt about that.
My grandfather's brother died in the Chinese Civil War, but none of his relatives resented the Communist Party. Because at that time, even if it was necessary to collect military rations, Mao's army would write grain IOUs and mobilize people to voluntarily protect their hometown, rather than forcibly taking others as soldiers like Chiang Kai shek's army (like Ukraine now).
Chiang Kai shek lost the support of the peasant class, which made him almost lose everything.
只能说蒋介石在大陆太不做人了，尽失民心，能把绝对优势打成最后败逃台湾也是真牛，不过唯一做的好事就是生了蒋经国
@criszisyeah idk what the commenter is smoking bro
prob listens to TASS
@criszis If your definition of "draft"is equivalent to kidnaping random mens on the street then the Chiang Kai shek style draft do make a perfect comparison with what Ukraine has been doing since a few month after the war started. So yea, like Ukraine now.
In fact, Ukraine's conscription primarily started with individuals who had military experience, and it was relatively fair for most of the nation. In contrast, Chiang Kai-shek and all other warlords in China followed the ancient Chinese conscription method, forcibly enlisting individuals. Many people died before even reaching the military units. Additionally, at that time, apart from the CCP, most warlord forces had significant issues with embezzlement and officers withholding military pay, leading to many Nationalist soldiers not getting enough to eat. Comparatively, the CCP's forces were more democratic in this regard. Once funds reached the grassroots units, they were managed democratically, ensuring that grassroots soldiers ate better than Nationalist soldiers. This is also one of the reasons for the Communist Party's strong military combat capability.
chiang looted the whole country with releasing fake money and left all people straving,they just carry all the treasure of china and fled to taiwan.they accept the us protection, knowing that the us want us to be divided.and the first lady even suggest to the american once that they should nuke the mainland.that's why people don't want them to lead.useless.
8:17 those were KMT soldiers. mao's red army never had any soviet military equipment until korea war. during the war against japanese, soviet weapons from USSR were distributed to KMT troops, not red army.
Infact the first soviet weapon arrived to ccp was in korean war
not true, soviets started giving equipment in 1945
@@Specificifythose were Japanese left weapons in Manchuria, not actually Soviet Union produced weapons.
China owes a lot to Mao. From the Communist Revolution to now, the country freed itself from the yoke and exploitation of European colonialist powers, also from supersitition, socialç e economic chaos, backwardness and rampant corruption, and today it is the second economy in the world, the largest manufacturer, exporter, sending rovers to the moon and to Mars, and is the BIGGEST CREDITOR OF THE UNITED STATES. I'd like Brasil have one Mao!
@@Magno_o_Mago-iz1we Brazil doesn't have 45 million to spare. If brazil has a "great leap forward" _incident_ with numbers it would be 1/4 people dead.
This video only mentions the could-be things Red Army maybe have done in the long march, but ignores totally what KMT have done in JiangXi, a total revenge slaughter, in which many former red region villagers were slaughtered empty, goverment supported massacre.
Chang literally said "(here) every stone must be fired, and every bloodline must be cut".
A tyrant that should be nailed on shame if he isn't a sweet ally of the United States
@@王方悦 Even in Taiwan/ROC, i heard Chiang Kai shek is quite controversial in terms of how he governed the country. What do you think about how the CCP conducted itself during the civil war (from a strictly historical viewpoint, I am not justifying any bad behavior during that civil war, it was a tough time for many people), because civil wars based on what I read can often be very tragic for all involved.
@@abcdedfg8340 what's the the opinion on the civial war in Taiwan. as a man
who lived in china, I'm really curious about it
I doubt this was any worse than what king Leopold did in the Congo, or what Europe did during the onslaught on Africa and the enslavement of human beings for profit, or the genocide of Native Americans to usurp their land.
@@xinlugong-wv5yy I think taiwan has a more open debate on what both sides did. There seems to be a strong awareness that chiang kai shek could be quite ruthless, but also that mao and the ccp seems to have been quite ruthless as well. But having said that it was a civil war, and civil wars seem to be rough on civilians regardless of their personal allegiances. I think you are lucky you can discuss this as history rather than experiencing it in person. You may want to learn more about the refugees that fled the ccp, leaving for hong kong or taiwan. It could reveal more about the historical truth of the matter.
Thanks for your brilliant works! It's so rare to see some real historical research on the China Civil War on youtube.
在长征之前的井岗山，毛因他远超众人的军事才能和眼界，受到了高层的冷遇和迫害，每次遇到危机时，他们会启用毛，危机过后再次闲置他。
直到长征无力再进行下去，在遵义这个地方，所有高层共同讨论决议，才确定了毛的领导地位。
所以毛的崛起不是历史的偶然，当时的历史必须选择了他。
但是，这个国家出现了毛亦可说是偶然，因为前后追溯，很难找到第二个有能力半路带领一个危在旦夕的团队和国家走出困境的人。
另外还有一件毛亲口对斯诺说的趣事：“1927年，他在秋收起义时被民团抓获，他用了银元行贿，最终惊险逃脱。”
天选之人！
exactly, he was chosen as a puppet by russian soviets, lol you should be grateful to us, little pussies.
and being as brutal, ignorant and oppressive as a human can be helped too.
mao destroyed china. taiwan is real china. mainland is mao's china where he destroyed every bit of Chinese history he could find and to this day, it's just mao hangover china.
the leaders are all still mao educated which means:
the education, emotional stability and maturity of your average elemetary school child
This is my favorite channel ever
Incredible documentary, informative as always!
他的内容有错误的地方，而且故意不讲一些国民党的恶劣事迹，共产党夺取政权，靠的不光是武力，而是人民的力量，
Great piece, Jesse, and nice to see you bring your talented narrative to this chapter of world history. You do such a wonderful job of laying out the sequence of events where each clearly sets the context for what follows while all the time using that gift for modulation to place just the right emphasis on just the right phrase to make your point.
One imagines that yours would be the most popular class on any campus.
This video is such a refreshment especially after those StateBall video full of mistakes,thanks for the job well done,中国人给你点赞👍
Nice video. There is a typo at 8:43. The gentleman together with Mao is Zhu De, not Zhou Enlai.
True Zhou Enlai's eyebrows are missing. History lovers know Zhou and Brezhnev's eyebrows.
I think so! You can see several pictures of him in Snow's book, he has a pretty distinctive appearance.
Nice video
True
Mit der chinesischen Geschichte wird einem nie langweilig.
去探索吧，这里的故事比一千零一夜的股市还要有趣
"Geschichte":
The Thirsty Years War happens every 300 years in China, from Bronze age to modern day. Thankfully we don't need to have any war nowadays
@2:53 Chiang KaiShek (CKS) has never studied military theory in Moscow. Instead he studied military subjects in Japan and studying in a Japanese military academy.
That's right. I caught that mistake also.
il a étudié les affaire militaire à baoding, au japon et en russie ...
Funniest part, he didn't study at a proper Japanese Military Academy unlike many of the KMT warlords.
But a lesser tuition under the Japanese Military academy and didn't actually graduate, because he wasn't the best student.
During a meet up of the ex Japanese Academy graduate club organised by many KMT generals, many alumni was surprised to hear Chiang was amongst the list despite never meeting him.
However due to Chiang donating a large sum to the club and the fact that he is the Generalissimo, they just tolerate his presence.
the only youtube video and comment section that doesn't give me a seizure on how little westeners know about china, and using that as an excuse to randomly produce hate and straight up misinformation
It's hard to find someone who has studied the history of China so deeply.
My father joined the PLA at age 15 to fight Japanese and then fought against KMT and kick them out of Canton province.
bravery and respect beyond comprehension
Based father
How was he treated during the "cultural revolution"? I heard the CCP faction under general Peng Dehuai that advocated for a more active role against the Japanese was later purged.
@LeckMichImArsch my father was protected by his students. The west misleading the culture revolution. It was a power take over between 2 fractions in the communist party. All that other BS outside just to draw the attention away from it. The west never till today told the truth about culture revolution. Tens of thousands of high school and college students die between clashes between each other. Don't believe a thing the West says. Lies
I can't imagine he did much fighting against the Japanese.
Now some people can understand why Taiwan issue is actually the unfinished China civil war.
This seems perfectly obvious! I think we have to work hard to NOT understand it! Also talking about Taiwan in terms of "Democracy" is pretty special, requires history to start on a specific day to make your argument. If someone has ONE election we might call them a democracy, if we approve of the election result.
@@leonardpearlman4017 Taiwan's "democratic" politics may have been worthy of China's observation and learning 20 years ago, but now? DPP is the most corrupt political party in the world.
@@leonardpearlman4017
Crossing Chishui river the fourth times during The Long March was an extremely smart Military operation.
Interesting how you chose to not mention how the kmt left the people of Nanking to defend themselves as they fled before the Japanese. Where as the commies fought where they could. That is a big factor of why the commies had more support
I geuss he deleted his comment now … logic prevailed over propaganda. 👍
@Yibay This is a joke, right?
The term "landlords" is somewhat of a misnomer intends to create a sense of some sympathy for us in the capitalists West. Many of the great landlords were little more than slave owners.
@@dirremoire that might be for your small eastern mind, but by the middle of the XX century landlords were owners with close ties to politicians just like today.
@A J that sound awesome! I hope and I am sure billions won't die because Chariman Mao commanded to kill "some" Mockingbirds.
Great video! The best I've ever seen made by an English channel from a perspective of west culture. Chairman Mao was probably the greatest strategist ever in human history. However, we must know that his thinking "serve the people wholeheartedly" is actually THE key feature that distinguishes the Chinese Red Army and PLA nowadays from all other armies. The people's army is undefeatable!
Found bugs: 1. On 8:40, the second man from the right in the photo is Zhu De (朱德), not Zhou Enlai (周恩来) 2. On 11:13, it should be He Bei (河北) province, not Hu Bei (湖北)
the Chinese Red Army is undeafeted cause they dont fought against the japanese
the KMT was defeated by tha Japanese and Mao just picked up the fruit
So undefeatable they lost to Vietnam
@@Civman-yr8lb you are so funny,bro. Do you know the real history😆
@@evancooper7259 China invaded Vietnam and lost. Doesn't everyone know that?
@@Civman-yr8lb haha
You have to admit Mao was definitely a military genius. He played the long game with Chiang Kai-Shek and in the end made him look like a fool.
11:16 This is the map of Hubei Province today, which is completely different from the boundary of Hebei Province at that time. The empty area in the middle is the capital Beijing and the municipality directly under the Central Government Tianjin. At the same time, Rehe Province was also revoked in history and merged into Hubei and Shanxi.
Your team's work is always quality, in-depth history. I decided to get Nebula through the Real Time History deal, though it's likely to benefit me moreso than you. Looking forward to Red Atoms.
in chinese long history, only a few men could rise from commoner to emperor or Supreme leaders...ie. Liu bang, liu yu, zhu yuan zhang and Mao Zedong.....therefore, no matter you like him or not, Mao is really a genius
“The Conquerors” by André Malraux is a highly recommended reading
n'importe quoi ...
Chiang Kai-shek was able to tolerate the warlords and get their troops and support because he had to keep going to war with the warlords to control each city. But this ultimately led to calculations that weren't for the government and the country during the civil war between the Communist Party and the Kuomintang, resulting in many warlords surrendering or betraying the Communist Party.
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Very nice documentary 👌
At 8'40'' the man in picture not Zhou Enlai but Zhu De.
Thank you. So balanced in treatment of the various parties. A time and place in history not taught in the West but informative of current affairs.
Best non-bias history video ❤
The first sentence is incorrect. Qing dynasty ruled China for less than 300 years. To be precise, it's 268 years, from 1644-1911.
As a Chinese, I am shocked by the objectivity of this video. This is the first time in my two years abroad that I have seen an objective video about Chinese history.
thanks, we hope you like our other videos about the 2nd Sino-Japanese War too
@IronMan-r5o6f
中华人民共和国 is different of 中国, one says people republic of China and the other is China, the difference is that the PRC 🇨🇳 is only the mainland excluding the ROC, Hong Kong and Macau, “China” is the PRC, HK, Macau and ROC together, the ROC is the Republic of China 🇹🇼, which includes Taiwan, all the islands right under Okinawa(excluding Okinawa itself), all the Chinese island and the 11 line in the South-China sea.
Taiwan is not a country, the ROC🇹🇼 is.
China is not a country, the PRC🇨🇳 is.
@IronMan-r5o6f
The difference between cultural and political borders
@@poka26ev2roc is not a country，just a rebel government
Chang didn't defeat the warlords so much as buy their cooperation.
Chiang only wanted to be a ruler and enjoy wealth and power but not save the country. Truman detested him so much because Chiang was too corrupt, Americans gave him a lot of aid in the form of weapons and money, then they found Chiang saved the money in American bank for interests and sold the weapons back to USA.
It always makes me wonder about the old film footage who's behind the camera how they get these moments, and how they protect the film all these years and keep all the equipment in working order or not get stolen
Great video! Soviet support to Li Lisan is the very beginning of the Sino-Soviet split. Not the only cause but the first of a series of events that would corrode the Sino-Soviet relationship. Soviet Union also tried to flirt with Chiang himself for a while. I read that Mao was expelled from the party, his CCP was not the same of Li's.
PS. Only negative remark I have is on 24:00 when the Japanese surrender is (unintentionally?) framed as a direct consequence of the A bombings. There is no consensus on this and the logic seems to point to another direction (Japanese surrender after the Soviet Union sweeping through Manchuria and menacing the invasion of Hokkaido) + diplomatic impossibility of Japan getting a not so bad deal with the US using the "neutral" Soviet mediation.
Mao is indeed a person with great military talent
And also a great poet, but a bad economist
*L*mao
Mao Zedong was not just a military figure, he had a strong understanding of economics, science, and politics. Even if he's not a scientist
@@huangshabaizhan326 But polluted by a bad wife
@@xingw9358 There is no pollution, his failure is destined, and no political entity in the world can avoid class and corruption. Mao attempted to change this phenomenon
The more research in Mao, the more you will find Mao is the greatest war expert in last 1000 in human history.
But now, some people are misinterpreting him, denying everything about him from all angles. Oh my goodness!😢
yup, the army he leads is 100 times better than Zugeliang in 'the three kingdoms.'
No, he stole the credits from his generals
@@CannibaLouiSTHe is the main leader.
He was indeed extremely inventive. I think it was his lack of formal military training that made him that way. He read of lot of military history. But in the end he had to figure out everything himself based on the circumstances at hand. As a result, he did a lot of unexpected things that totally confounded Chiang Kai Shek.
The Long March is incredible. To a certain extent, there would be no Chinese Communist Party without Mao Zedong. If Mao Zedong was not in Jiangxi at that time, the Communist Party might have been wiped out by Chiang Kai-shek’s Kuomintang troops.
Communism would have rose up no matter what, China's geography just can't handle capitalism
@@baspagrey1545 true
@@baspagrey1545我认同你的观点，所以我在努力让现在的中国从资本主义转向共产主义，许多中国人认为中国已经不再是共产主义了，甚至比美国要资本主义。我今年23岁，以前我讨厌共产主义，而现在我是一个坚定的毛主义者。
Wumao commie bot.
@@baspagrey1545不知道會很多年後了，中國經濟也會很差。因為毛澤東的農村包圍城市，游擊反抗真的是神來一筆，再加上毛領導下的統一戰線，才是共產崛起的原因。共產國際主導的圍攻城市，只能讓共產黨慢性死亡。中國的軍閥勢力，地主階級勢力和帝國主義勢力太強，按照以前的共產黨的策略，無差別打倒地主和資產階級，在中國絕對無法成功，只有毛一個人懂得團結小資產階級和民族資產階級和富農的重要性
Objectively and truthfully speaking, I am glad to see such authenticity on UA-cam. Instead of prejudice and lies.
Very educational!!
6:40 that quote is from my Poli-Sci professor at Boston University. What a pleasant little surprise!
One of my friend's great-grandfathers was in The Long March with the 1st Division. They did walk the distance they claimed and had a few major battles.
Well I guess it’s nice that you believe him but it’s hardly convincing evidence.
@@gstlbsorry cia propaganda have no power here.
Amazing introduction 0:00 - 4:00
More wonderfulness value than wonderful value 👌....thank you for sharing
Wrong: It was not "the West and Japan went to war with China, and defeated China"
Correction: It was "the West and Japan invaded China, and defeated China".
胡说八道，日本从来没有打败中国，日本和德国是二战战败国！对，日本侵略了中国！
I mean, same thing
@@gamincaimin9954 No it is NOT!
@@peacelover373 wdym
@@gamincaimin9954 War seem a neutral word ，blurred the purpose and nature of the behavior . German invaded Poland ，German went to war with Poland，feel the different？
Thank you for your serious work, very clear and accurate explanation
我是一个中国人，很负责任的告诉你，他的内容有很多错误，
@@yyds66666 比如说？
@@WaterFox117 一个月过去了，我都忘了内容了，懒得再看一遍，自己查历史去吧
8:42 Minor mistake about the name tag. The Red Army Commander was Zhu De, not Zhou Enlai.
Great video. And, I want to ask, is there a movie depicting the Long March in an objective manner? I reckon such a movie would be great.
nope cuz nothing is completely objective
As an American, I would say Chairman Mao is the great leader of working class with military talent, no doubt about that.
Mao could not take China without help from United States. May be you would like to read the interesting comments that I posted.
@@kaimingraymondchoi9909 Nonsense, the US assisted the Chinese Kuomintang, and it was the Soviet Union that assisted the Chinese Communist Party.
@@truthzhao Did I not say it was a silly mistake made by US? Are you nonsense, or I am nonsense? Haha.
@@kaimingraymondchoi9909 The "haha" you put at the end of your sentence makes you look like a 🤡.
Without the "help" of Japan, the United States could not have participated in World War II; without the "help" of Germany, the Soviet Union could not have become a superpower. Is this the logic you want others to know from the translator?😅
Are you trying to say that the U.S. supports the KMT in launching a civil war in order to justify the occupation by Mao Zedong? Then you are really a "little smart ghost". I am afraid that "indirect help" does not even count.😅
@@truthzhao The Soviet Union also assisted the Kuomintang funnily enough. They wanted to keep China divided for the most part to prevent stability and Stalin also preferred Chiang Kai Shek at the time. He wasn't so fond of Mao Zedong.
As an Indian, I found Mao to be a great strategist and tremendous farseeing guy.
I literally wish if we could go back in time 100 years back and instead of negotiator Gandhi, someone like Mao be there to fight for your Independence then the peasant class which was no better than Chinese or even worser due to constant artificial famines along with the whole working class, students, youth & of course the fragmented armed rebellious groups in every pockets could have been united and then even moderates too would join like the same fiere wind & tempest taking advantage of its high rural hinterland surrounding the few Colonial Cities and if would succeed either we be could have been freed as a unified Republic without any partition or even internal power strifes and so a true Independence dismantling all colonial legacy systems which continues till this very day.
Hard to believe now, but I believe India and China will have pretty decent relations in the not distant future. We will grow together. That said, on the ground, person-to-person level, I think your average Indian will hate China for a long time
Mao once said: "You don't have to miss me all the time, learn from me, become me, surpass me, you are me!"
@@lixingyun4571 fire quote
@@dunzhen The original quote is from a speech he said to students from uni once. He said:" The world is ours, and ir is also yours, but eventually it will be yours. Young generation like you are like sun in the morning, up in the sky, you will eventually shine as the sun"
18:00
I must point out even the numbers may have exaggerated elements about the Long March, there was a conversion error
The number of "twelve thousand" frequently used in Mainland sources is counted in old Chinese miles, which roughly converted to 400~450 meters
So according to the number claimed by CCP the actual travel distance is about 4800-5200km
*CPC
no. The official claim is 25000 Chinese miles, which convert to 12500 km as the video says. But this is not the distance of the main route, but the combined distance marched by all red army units since start of long march.
@@xsu-is7vq that is true, it was 25 thousand Chinese miles instead of 12 thousand I remembered it wrong
你这个认知还不如纸上谈兵，军队作战模式下前进丶包围丶穿插丶反包围丶反穿插丶诱敌深入这都是行军距离
@@风与月 四渡赤水弯弯绕绕都很长距离了
Mao is seriously up there in the top 5 generals of all time.
Imagine if the Gauls had a leader that defeated Rome. That's Mao.
Great objective overview.
Subbed, love the facing, I had a fun time learning and how easy to digest.
I don't think I'll ever understand Chiang Kai-Shek. 😕
He reminds me of that fanatic Catholic South Vietnamese dictator that Americans liquidated.
Men who cannot compromise and be pragmatic when the need arises should never lead countries.
I had the same feeling! Chiang seemed a downright dictator. China might have been a totally different country should Sun Yat-Sen had lived longer or should Chiang not be the successor of Sun.
c'est très facile à comprendre : la majorité de ses officiers et de sa clientèle étaient des propriétaires de terre ... en 1926, durant le début de la bei fa, les organisations de paysans, soutenues par le PCC, commencent à se saisir des terres dans le sillage des armées remontant depuis guangzhou. les nationalistes ont tout simplement réalisé en avril 1927 un pivotement d'alliance : abandonner l'alliance soviétique pour récupérer l'alliance avec les puissances impérialistes anticommunistes. qui l'ont reconnus et leur ont prêté l'argent dont ils avaient besoin pour continuer la guerre.
même en 1948, les nationalistes refusent toute réforme agraire ...
toutes les grandes révolutions de l'aire moderne ( france, mexique, russie, chine ) ont eu la question du terrain pour question centrale .
slight nit pick, the party's official name is the Communist Party of China (CPC) not CCP, despite the later acronym commonly being used by the media and western public.
Question, doesnt the ccp use the cpc and cpp acronyms interchangeably? The chinese characters literally read chinese communist party lol. I dont think it really matters tbh, do you refer to the democrats, or many other political parties by their official names? Its probably more trouble than its worth.
@@abcdedfg8340 No. Only the West uses CCP as propaganda term. The CPC would not call themselves CCP, it would be like USA calling themselves American United States (AUS).
Its official acronym is the CCP before it changed to CPC for propaganda purposes as the CPC acronym doesn't have as much bad associated with it unlike the CCP
@@G.A.C_Preserve Wrong. That would make zero sense for the party to be called Chinese Communist Party because they are already Chinese. That's like the Republican Party calling itself American Republican Party or the Democratic Party calling itself American Democratic Party. Both Parties are of the United States, just as the Communist Party of China. Even, the United States once had a Communist Party. It would be proper to be refer to as Communist Party of United States. No one called them American Communist Party.
西方把中共称为ccp 是为了让人联想到苏共cccp 从第一印象开始就对它产生恐惧
告訴你們一些毛澤東的趣事
毛澤東不喜歡錢
毛澤東不喜歡使用任何武器
毛澤東喜歡寫詩
毛澤東看悲慘話劇會哭
毛澤東喜歡吃辣椒
最後，你們不是中國大陸人，永遠也不會讀懂他。
永遠不會懂他晚年時為什麼讀到一首古詩時會痛哭 （六朝何事，只成門戶私計？）
people like Gerorge Bush Senior, who only have to show up at the table to get fed, frequently "don't like money." in 92 years i have never met a peasant who did not love money dearly, vecause they knew its power.
@@egay86292 那我還告訴你一些他的事,他死後,把所有的遺產留給了國家.(他寫過很多書,書的稿費)沒有給自己的女兒.
他的遺產裡沒有房產,所有也沒有給女兒在中國留下房產.
他住在北京的地方是給房租的,從他的稿費裡給.租住的住所裡基本上只有各種書.他70歲了還穿著破舊的睡衣.有很多人送過他私人禮物,其中有一朋友送他的禮物是中國古代最有名的詩人李白的字畫.價值相當於蒙娜麗莎.他都轉交給了中國博物館.
"Cry when watching a tragic drama "😂😂 he slept like a baby and she'd not a tear for the millions he starved. Dude was as horrible as people come
I’m so inlove with this channel.
Wish there’s a video on the Cold War too😢
Thanks for the history lesson, Mr. Travolta!
That last line on the young marshal at the end, haha!
This history explains why China has always sided with southern countries in resisting imperialist colonialism, because China empathizes with their experiences.
As a Chinese, I am very happy that you can explain this history without any political position, I like your video, it is the most correct video about China that I have seen on UA-cam
One correction: Qing dynasty 1644 - 1911. Nice video!
Hope you cover Afghanistan civil war in 1920s and rise of King Zahir Shah who would lead most prosperous time in the country's history. Sad how things turned so bad which still being felt today.
My grandpa Wu Wei from Taishan Guangdong Province, born 1921 was part of the PLA and served in the war against Japanese occupation, chinas civil war against the KMT, and later went on to serve in the 27th company of the people’s volunteers army in the war of aiding Korea against American aggression. Glory to the motherland. 🇨🇳✊🏼💪🏼
Glory to the patriots, liberators, revolutionaries and workers of the world! Long live the revolution! May the revolutionary spirit of Mao Zedong live on forever!
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American aggression? The whole reason we went into Korea was because of North Korea's aggression against the South. South Korea is a thriving democracy with one of the best economies in the world, whereas North Korea is a poverty-stricken Communist hellhole ruled by a despot.
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The producers of the video simply don't understand that an army in such dire straits and short of numbers would have been finished long ago if it had not been for the voluntary support and help of the local people during the Long March, but rather for the so-called coercion and blackmail.
In the base areas, the Red Army had the support of the local people. On the Long March, there was actually no support from the local people.
Great work as usual. Just be careful with those adjectives, Jesse.
Professional and detailed.
Even the best LOL player could not perform "四渡赤水" magic move.
Mao is The legend. The great leader, One of the top level grand strategist of all time. Look at what he had at the begining, he was a middle school tutor, he led a bunch of uprising farmers, his enemy discribe him as mountain bandit . And now, his portrait is in second largest country's currency. His teaching spread from china to japan , cuba, latin america and africa. His former enemies keep spreading insult rumor about him even he is dead for decades. Western power are so afraid of him that western media demonize him into tyrant and butcher . But history will never end. The more infamous Mao's name in western media , the more proof that maoism is a terrifying weapon against colonialism .
Too bad he became a dictator
@@osjjsm4364 I am Chinese and I am telling you, he is not a dictator, you know too little about modern Chinese history
@@osjjsm4364 He was a dictator and not a dictator; he alone decided and promoted the misguided tragedy of the Cultural Revolution, but these actions were not intended to secure his power and position.
@@osjjsm4364 He was certainly flawed ad did betray some of his own principles in the end
@@osjjsm4364 What makes you think dictator must be bad . Are you sure your critical thinking skill is not being turned off when talking about certain topics? I think you may have been affected by some kind of political propaganda.
Okay, now I am desperate to know if that last bit about the Young Marshall is real or just some jacked up propaganda.
I just know he was opium addict for some time until his father,the Old Marshal was assassinated by the Japanese
No, it's real.
A small mistake at 11:25, it's "Hebei" province rather than "Hubei" province. "Hubei" is another province in which Wuhan is located.
Please don't mention Wu**n. For the sake of peace ✌️
@@ThisNinjaSays_wuhan
@@mottscottison6943 🤣
@@ThisNinjaSays_ (did someone say my name?)
Excellent video
The name of Red Army Commander on the photo at 8:42 is wrong, it shold be Zhu De (head of Red Army) instead of Zhou EnLai.
0:04 I was that little boy marching alone with the army.
Big if true papa
Same
found two mistakes. 1, Qing dynasty ruled China less than 300 year; 2, Chiang studied military in Japan not Moscow
Japan? you are kidding me
@@李卓群It's true. Chiang studied warfare at the Tokyo Shinbu Gakko, a preparatory school for the Imperial Japanese Army Academny, which was intended for Chinese students. It was there that he was introduced to revolutionary anti-Qing nationalism.
In fact, Chiang served in the IJA after graduating, and did so from 1909 to 1911. He only returned to China to join the Wuchang uprising.
He wouldn't study in Moscow until 1923.
@@李卓群 蒋介石他有个日本名字叫做石田介雄，但是他确实也被国民党派去苏联学习过，就是为什么当年他发动大清洗后苏联还会叫共产党别抵抗，当年解放军南下的时候，苏联人可是跟着蒋介石跑的
As a Chinese. I think what you say is objective and true.
I've seen a lot of videos that are biased and not objective.
Your video surprised me. You're a true history teller.👍
Even this one is not 100% objective, maybe because the maker doesn't have full insight of the ccp history, especially during the long march.
But you are right, this is already the most objective one on UA-cam
How do you define objective? I guess history is objective to you if it's the same as what you were taught as a kid by ccp?😂
@@haoyangsun3278 well, the description with the idea of neoliberalism is not objective either，right？
@@haoyangsun3278 I'm just saying that what he said was objective. There's no problem with that. It is not a question of who should educate. History is so objective. No matter how many people betray history, forget the truth, deceive themselves. What he said was objective.
@@haoyangsun3278 How do you define objective? I guess history is not objective to you if it's not same as what you want to hear. 🤣
My grandfather joined PLA in the young age and liberate Shandong province and the capital city Nanjing. He was a signal corp in army. My grandpa joined the large support teams which were consisted by peasants, helped the PLA wined the Huaihai battle.
a little mistake in 11:15, the red region is Hebei instead of Hubei. Hubei is another province in the middle of China
This is why China became a socialist country after a brief capitalist society. China's capitalist regime fled to Taiwan Province of China.
The contradiction between the Chinese Communist Party and the Republic of China has not yet been resolved.
This is Taiwan question.This is the contradiction between the Chinese Communist Party and the Republic of China.
China is still in civil war.
China and most civilizations which traded goods were always capitalist. Chinese Tang Dynasty was perhaps the most successful open capitalist Dynasty from China.
Visit any bazaar in Iran or India and you'll know.
Marx and Engels' ideology is a product of the European Industrial Revolution. Communism is the new ideology. IT'S premise was so appealing because the world was faced with deadly American and British capitalists who had no regard for human life or suffering.
The Germans and Nordic countries incorporated Communism into their Democratic social welfare systems.
The British into their labour market.
Lenin and Mao went all out of course 😀.
Well, technically Chinese civir war is still on going, there is never signed agreement or treaty, both side just ceased fire.
For a more in-depth look at the warlord era, I recommend the beautifully illustrated manga Fist of the Blue Sky.
dude, you mixed up Hubei Province with Hebei Province, and also used the modern PRC version of the map, wtf.
the guy you labeled as Zhou Enlai at 8:37 is actually Zhu De, once again, wtf.
White people doing Chinese history. Did you expect any more?
I was about to say that guy looks nothing like Zhou Enlai
You can correct him, no need to mad bro.
Most people here know Mr Zhou's eyebrows 😜
He’s rolled five thousand years of Chinese wisdom into one kamehamema. No body was prepared for that.
22:56 doesn’t the guy bald guy on the right resemble Yamashita?