she forgot to mention: - that it was a coup. The Yanukovich government was democratically elected but was unconstitutionally removed just because the western countries agreed with the removal. - it's interesting that the same western countries that had previously warned the Ukranine government (under Yanukovich) of the usage of violence (read: policing) against the 'peaceful protesters' who occupied govt buildings in Kyiv, while later when the protests in Odessa broke out, the NEO NAZI Ukranians burnt them alive inside of the Trade Union Building, the May 2014 - Odessa Massacre, and then when the protest in the Donbass region broke out, the Ukranian government (under Poroshenko) sent its army and tanks to crush the protesters in Donbass. the first batch of the army sent to Donbass failed to accomplish its task as soldiers of the Ukranian army surrendered their weapons and equpiment to the 'rebels or terrorists' of Donbass. the troops did not want to kill their own brothers and sisters. The west said nothing about the events in Odessa and Donbass. If the people in Kyiv had the right to protest, how about the people in Donbass? Did they have the right to protest because they did not want to get along with the fact that the western government meddling with their internal politic? - the snipers were part of the euromaidan protesters and paid by either the western governments or the SOROS foundation in order to create chaos. - Had Putin wanted the Donbass region, he would have done it easily in 2014 when the Ukrainian military was still weak. He in fact insisted the belligerent parties sign and implement the Minsk Agreement that was supposed to give the Donbass region an autonomy status in Ukraine. Had the West forced Ukraine to implement the bullet points in the Minsk Agreement, one of which to conduct national dialogue, Ukraine would still intact and the war would have been avoided.
You've completely bought in to the Russian propaganda about American influence. The people in the Donbas would have been quite happy left alone without the Russian mercenaries moving in. Zelensky knew the people there. 2014 was a knee jerk reaction to Putin losing his puppet. He would have liked to take more but had to settle for Crimea and the Donbas. The Minsk agreements did curtail his actions and part of the agreement was for him to withdraw his troops which he was never going to do. If it hadn't been for COVID he may have acted earlier but. even Lavrov admitted the only advisors Putin listens to are Peter the Great and Catherine the Great. He has imperialistic ambitions which he shrouds in propaganda, whatever he can use to stir up his gullible population.
@@barbarahesford5061 No, my dear, it's you who completely bought in to the Western propaganda. He said everything right, and you can only cry and scream that somebody bought in to the Russian propaganda. You have no arguments. You have nothing to say. If you even start saying something you'll fall in a puddle of dirt, because you know aboslutely nothing about Ukraine and you better start acknowledging the fact and stop leaving your comments bassed on nothing. By the level of ignorance you've just said it's clear that's you are at least 5000+ kilometers away from the nearest Ukrainian boarder point and has zero relation to Russia \ Ukraine. A manifest of ignorance of a western citizen. A shame.
@@sybo59 The very premise of postmodernism is one which openly purports to be irrational, untruthful and void of objectivity. So how can one be labelling anything as evil or discussing the concept of evil, when it is claimed it does not exist. It is nonsensical from the start. As for the reality to the conflict on the ground, I see many objectively valid justifications for Russia having taking the action it took in order to defend its own national security against aggressive US imperialism. Looks like Armenia will be next from recent activities, the gullible fools.
@@yp77738yp77739 Shore is making the point that postmodernism has been adopted by Putin and other bad actors, and that it is invalid. She believes in objective good and evil.
Thank You very much! Excellent!
Superb talk; thank you so much for sharing it.
Make sure you check her - and Prof. Snyder's - lectures on the Yale channel.
thank you , it was very interesting !
she forgot to mention:
- that it was a coup. The Yanukovich government was democratically elected but was unconstitutionally removed just because the western countries agreed with the removal.
- it's interesting that the same western countries that had previously warned the Ukranine government (under Yanukovich) of the usage of violence (read: policing) against the 'peaceful protesters' who occupied govt buildings in Kyiv, while later when the protests in Odessa broke out, the NEO NAZI Ukranians burnt them alive inside of the Trade Union Building, the May 2014 - Odessa Massacre, and then when the protest in the Donbass region broke out, the Ukranian government (under Poroshenko) sent its army and tanks to crush the protesters in Donbass. the first batch of the army sent to Donbass failed to accomplish its task as soldiers of the Ukranian army surrendered their weapons and equpiment to the 'rebels or terrorists' of Donbass. the troops did not want to kill their own brothers and sisters.
The west said nothing about the events in Odessa and Donbass. If the people in Kyiv had the right to protest, how about the people in Donbass? Did they have the right to protest because they did not want to get along with the fact that the western government meddling with their internal politic?
- the snipers were part of the euromaidan protesters and paid by either the western governments or the SOROS foundation in order to create chaos.
- Had Putin wanted the Donbass region, he would have done it easily in 2014 when the Ukrainian military was still weak. He in fact insisted the belligerent parties sign and implement the Minsk Agreement that was supposed to give the Donbass region an autonomy status in Ukraine. Had the West forced Ukraine to implement the bullet points in the Minsk Agreement, one of which to conduct national dialogue, Ukraine would still intact and the war would have been avoided.
You've completely bought in to the Russian propaganda about American influence. The people in the Donbas would have been quite happy left alone without the Russian mercenaries moving in. Zelensky knew the people there.
2014 was a knee jerk reaction to Putin losing his puppet. He would have liked to take more but had to settle for Crimea and the Donbas. The Minsk agreements did curtail his actions and part of the agreement was for him to withdraw his troops which he was never going to do. If it hadn't been for COVID he may have acted earlier but. even Lavrov admitted the only advisors Putin listens to are Peter the Great and Catherine the Great. He has imperialistic ambitions which he shrouds in propaganda, whatever he can use to stir up his gullible population.
@@barbarahesford5061 You've completely bought in to the western propaganda about Russian influence.
@@barbarahesford5061 No, my dear, it's you who completely bought in to the Western propaganda. He said everything right, and you can only cry and scream that somebody bought in to the Russian propaganda. You have no arguments. You have nothing to say. If you even start saying something you'll fall in a puddle of dirt, because you know aboslutely nothing about Ukraine and you better start acknowledging the fact and stop leaving your comments bassed on nothing. By the level of ignorance you've just said it's clear that's you are at least 5000+ kilometers away from the nearest Ukrainian boarder point and has zero relation to Russia \ Ukraine. A manifest of ignorance of a western citizen. A shame.
The distortion of this narrative is like hearing of a parallel reality. Shocking liar.
Can you be more specific?
@@sybo59 The very premise of postmodernism is one which openly purports to be irrational, untruthful and void of objectivity. So how can one be labelling anything as evil or discussing the concept of evil, when it is claimed it does not exist. It is nonsensical from the start.
As for the reality to the conflict on the ground, I see many objectively valid justifications for Russia having taking the action it took in order to defend its own national security against aggressive US imperialism. Looks like Armenia will be next from recent activities, the gullible fools.
@@yp77738yp77739 Shore is making the point that postmodernism has been adopted by Putin and other bad actors, and that it is invalid. She believes in objective good and evil.