@@jjoutback15 minutes in the SE, 10 hours in the LE . The seats in the LE are great, in the SE they stink. I bought the LE based on this. I really, really miss the SE handling though. If only they sold an SE with the LE seats. I got the cold weather package and the convenience package. So luxury is there, just not the handling. The AWD helps a bit but it’s the swerving side to side that the LE is terrible at.
A power driver's seat with lumbar control and rear pocket is available on the LE. Just get the Convenience Package, which also includes the Smart Key System, and an auto-dimming rearview mirror with Homelink. If you want a leather-wrapped steering wheel with the LE, no problem, the Cold Weather Package includes heated front seats and a heated, leather-wrapped steering wheel.
Adding these two packages puts you closer to next level which is the SE which has the power drives seat but not heated seats and steering wheel. Might consider the XSE for everything at$40.
@@rembo183 People get the LE because they want the lowest cost, smaller wheels, and softest ride. They are not really cross shopping SE and XSE with the LE. If they wanted an SE with Softext seats and low profile tires on big rims, the LE wouldn’t even be looked at.
@@Tractshun - I agree that the bigger sidewalls with more with smaller wheels is very appealing for,the ride and retro styling too. The SE doesn’t have low profile rims and tires but they are 18”. The XSE has the 19” rims and low profile tires.
Hi, I enjoyed this plainspoken overview of an everyday car. When the 189 hp, 35 mpg Camry Hybrid made its debut in 2009, its base price was $26,870. Today's 225 hp, 50 mpg Camry LE is the best bargain in the sedan market by a mile though I would pay a few bucks extra for the AWD. The LE's sensible 16" wheels will add mpg and ride comfort compared to the oversized rims on upper trim models. Speaking of highway mpg, 5:27 I don't think you will get 50 miles per gallon if you drive over 80 mph. To maximize the outstanding fuel efficiency benefits of this Hybrid, I humbly suggest you move over to the right lane and stick to the speed limit. 😉
I bought the 2017 Camry Hybrid LE new. Took the "vented to the outside" 12 volt battery out of its EZ access trunk location, in 2022 as it has gone down to its 20% level . Took it into the local Toyota dealer parts desk and swapped it for a new one. About $330.00 then reinstalled it. Its a Camry so there is not need to worry about the Engine Computer loosing it settings or any data due to removing it from the 12v battery power. An Indy shop changes the Pennzoil full synthetic oil/Toyota l filter and and I change/vacuum the three air filters (one under the back seat). Costco changed the 4-tires tires once - almost no ware on the brake pads and the tire pressure transmitters work like knew. Changed the wiper rubber once. Souther Calif. Garaged and I wax it twice a year,. That's the total maintenance in 8-yrs. No problems.
I’ve got one with convenience package and cold weather package. Had two Honda Accords previously and loved them. I think that the Camry is the better choice this time. It seems to check all the boxes.
30k was my number. I bought my LE last month . It has convenience pkg and dash cam ! MSRP 32,730 . I offered the dealer 30,000 to buy it now, and they took it !
Same exact price for me - no dash cam, but with cold weather package, red (paint upgrade), and dealer-added ceramic window tint / heat shield they said was worth $699 (and door edge guards, mud flaps, all weather mats, etc.). Plus tax, title, and tags. In California.
@@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow - When you test drive these cars and compare them, you’re in the best position to decide. There’s not much difference in the price between the LE and the SE, but you get a better looking car with the SE. I like the SE wheels and the SE interior with power seat and lumbar support for the driver.
@@rembo183loved the SE’s handling. Hated the seats. Didn’t really care for the looks over the LE’s either. The LE with the cold weather and convenience package gets you most everything except good handling, but you gain a softer ride and better gas mileage.
If all you want is a leather wrapped steering wheel. Upgrading to a higher trim level that costs thousands more is overkill. You can get real leather steering aftermarket wheel cover and have an upholstery shop stitch it on for you if you can’t do it neatly enough yourself. I bought a custom fit leather steering wheel cover for a Toyota that came with the base plastic wheel and it feels nicer and thicker than OEM.
@@wirenut3020 Cold weather package requires convenience package. So, unless you were going to get the convenience package anyway, you are spending thousands of dollars just to get a leather wrapped steering wheel.
I bought the LE AWD with the cold weather package and the convenience package. I really wanted to like the SE but I hated the seats. They’re pleather and cloth and were just immediately uncomfortable to sit in for me. I really liked the SE’s handling though. The LE leaves a bit to be desired there -for me. Great car though-we couldn’t be more pleased with it.
i don't care about all the fancy stuff, i just want a car that will get me from point A to point B, and not have to worry if it won't get me to point C. Thank God for toyota
@@jxmar_ The SE has nicer seats with power drives seat, and much nicer wheels and other sporty exterior trim accents. It’s worth the extra money. It also has sport tuned suspension.
@@jameswillett7186 Having had both the LE and SE models, the SE's suspension is firmer and holds the road better, less body roll in the corners, the seats offer better lateral support and the interior finish is a little more luxurious. For more comfort, it's the LE, for more sportiness the SE, the suspension is really firmer.
@@rembo183i downgraded from an SE to an LE after losing 2 wheels to 3 potholes because of the low profile wheels. The LE rides way smoother and absorbs more road imperfections. In the se, if you ran over something, you frickn FELT it.
@ - The wheels on SE are 18” and no problem so far. I agree I like the 16” wheels on LE but liked styling and overall features of SE plus I just purchased my SE so not trading yet! SE is very Smooth riding car and I go around the potholes and drive slow if I can!
From the reviews I’ve listened to, the SE has a firmer ride while the LE has a comfortable ride. If comfort is what you’re after the LE is the one. Oh, 16 inch wheels also helps with the ride and when you need tires, they will be MUCH cheaper! Just sayin…
I'm still trying to wrap my head around "who doesn't want a more comfortable ride?" Just got an LE with the two packages; rides much smoother and quieter than my 2019 XLE trade-in. The LE seats are softer than my old XLE and the range of lumbar support is greater. Also noticed the heated seats are warmer.
How does the road noise in the LE compare to the XLE? Is the LE quieter because it has 16 inch wheels, or does the XLE have additional soundproofing that makes it quieter in spite of 18 inch wheels?
High end cloth would be a nice option. Some people don't want leather seats and don't want the basement trim. While the synthetic stuff is much nicer than it was. It's still a form of vinyl. AKA polyurethane. The stuff records ⏺️ were made out of.
@@sammyjammy6647 Well I just drove my parents' new LE from LA to Vegas and back and would say I had no problems w/ the cloth seats at all. If you start feeling uncomfortable, playing around w/ the auto seat adj helps and it also has lumbar adj which I didn't touch much. Great car and TSS was seamless too. Only issue is bluetooth connectivity doesnt auto connect all the time which ppl are aware of.
Not trying to point you out but genuinely curious about the seats on the LE. In your SE video you mentioned that the cloth seats in LE were softer than the softex seats in SE. In this video, you said that the seats in SE are softer so I'm confused which one is your final verdict. ua-cam.com/video/PrMNxmxywCo/v-deo.html
Never said the LE’s seats were softer. I said if you were looking for a more lux experience go with the LE or XLE because the SE’s seats were firmer and fit the trim’s sportier persona. I also said that you might find the cloth seats to be more comfortable because everyone has their own preferences, but I never gave my own personal take on whether the softex seats were better than cloth.
Can tell you’re still a newbie when it comes to reviewing cars. Like most furniture you sit in when new the seats need to be broken in before they become More comfortable.
Brother, those seats were some of the firmest I’ve felt in the near 8 years of reviewing vehicles. I wasn’t going to sit there and lie to people telling them they’re plush when that wasn’t what I was experiencing, especially after recently featuring an SE and XLE.
Annoying comment. He does a great, thorough job and has been for a long time. And quality car seats, or furniture for that matter, shouldn't have too much of a "break in", especially on cloth seats. The foam density should be consistent regardless of use.
@@ascanius_son_of_aeneas5344 - Yes that’s why I went with the SE, it was a big difference. The SE wheels and exterior trim helps the look The car exterior in the gun metal gray with black trim looks great. I also got black overlays for lettering and badging which gives the exterior a pop. Nice styling for sedan and great ride. Cost was $34k
@@4FJM - Yes indeed it’s the best value as long as you’re ok without the extra convenience features of power driver seat and interior upgrades etc. I wanted the lumbar support and liked the upgraded interior with fake leather seats and the sporty design of exterior wheels. The difference in price was only about $2,000.
What the hell has happened to cars? Could we get any more BORING 😴 cars have no personality we have become a bunch of practical conformist brain dead idiots!
Actually, Toyota was the ONLY manufacturer who never gave dual zone auto climate control as standard. Honda has had it for a LONG time as standard equipment (almost a decade).
I just got the LE, and I can tell you for a fact that the seats are more comfortable than the SE. No contest.
Whats the longest duration you've sat in both ?
@@jjoutback15 minutes in the SE, 10 hours in the LE . The seats in the LE are great, in the SE they stink. I bought the LE based on this. I really, really miss the SE handling though. If only they sold an SE with the LE seats. I got the cold weather package and the convenience package. So luxury is there, just not the handling. The AWD helps a bit but it’s the swerving side to side that the LE is terrible at.
A power driver's seat with lumbar control and rear pocket is available on the LE. Just get the Convenience Package, which also includes the Smart Key System, and an auto-dimming rearview mirror with Homelink. If you want a leather-wrapped steering wheel with the LE, no problem, the Cold Weather Package includes heated front seats and a heated, leather-wrapped steering wheel.
You cold weather package requires convenience package. So, you have to get both if you the leather-wrapped steering wheel.
You can also add a sunroof!
Adding these two packages puts you closer to next level which is the SE which has the power drives seat but not heated seats and steering wheel. Might consider the XSE for everything at$40.
@@rembo183 People get the LE because they want the lowest cost, smaller wheels, and softest ride.
They are not really cross shopping SE and XSE with the LE.
If they wanted an SE with Softext seats and low profile tires on big rims, the LE wouldn’t even be looked at.
@@Tractshun - I agree that the bigger sidewalls with more with smaller wheels is very appealing for,the ride and retro styling too. The SE doesn’t have low profile rims and tires but they are 18”. The XSE has the 19” rims and low profile tires.
Hi, I enjoyed this plainspoken overview of an everyday car. When the 189 hp, 35 mpg Camry Hybrid made its debut in 2009, its base price was $26,870. Today's 225 hp, 50 mpg Camry LE is the best bargain in the sedan market by a mile though I would pay a few bucks extra for the AWD. The LE's sensible 16" wheels will add mpg and ride comfort compared to the oversized rims on upper trim models. Speaking of highway mpg, 5:27 I don't think you will get 50 miles per gallon if you drive over 80 mph. To maximize the outstanding fuel efficiency benefits of this Hybrid, I humbly suggest you move over to the right lane and stick to the speed limit. 😉
I just got one in underground color with the wheels painted gloss black and tinted windows! I love it and drives so smooth 😎
An LE with black wheels or the SE?
Picture?
How did you get the wheels black? Thats was my main gripe for the LE. I love the 16in and how smoother it is, but I don't like the silver look
I bought the 2017 Camry Hybrid LE new. Took the "vented to the outside" 12 volt battery out of its EZ access trunk location, in 2022 as it has gone down to its 20% level . Took it into the local Toyota dealer parts desk and swapped it for a new one. About $330.00 then reinstalled it. Its a Camry so there is not need to worry about the Engine Computer loosing it settings or any data due to removing it from the 12v battery power. An Indy shop changes the Pennzoil full synthetic oil/Toyota l filter and and I change/vacuum the three air filters (one under the back seat). Costco changed the 4-tires tires once - almost no ware on the brake pads and the tire pressure transmitters work like knew. Changed the wiper rubber once. Souther Calif. Garaged and I wax it twice a year,. That's the total maintenance in 8-yrs. No problems.
AWD is not a "must have" in cold regions.
All you need is a set of high-quality winter tires.
I’ve got one with convenience package and cold weather package. Had two Honda Accords previously and loved them. I think that the Camry is the better choice this time. It seems to check all the boxes.
Comfort Pkg offers power drivers seat and smart key on front doors
Correct. I'm disappointed in myself for not mentioning that. It was even in my notes.
@@jeffreyerickson6766 - no power passenger seat!
30k was my number. I bought my LE last month . It has convenience pkg and dash cam ! MSRP 32,730 . I offered the dealer 30,000 to buy it now, and they took it !
Lol i did the same thing. “Lemme get the black one for 30?” Flawless car
30k out the door? or 30k plus tax, title, and tags?
@@wtfx5757 $30,000 plus tax and tags. ( 2,730 discount from MSRP ) The MSRP was true .No dealer prep.
Same exact price for me - no dash cam, but with cold weather package, red (paint upgrade), and dealer-added ceramic window tint / heat shield they said was worth $699 (and door edge guards, mud flaps, all weather mats, etc.). Plus tax, title, and tags. In California.
@@wtfx5757 that’s what I would like to know
My awd is awesome!
Mpg what sold me!
It's difficult to get a soft riding car these days. Base model would appeal to me the most. The higher trims get a worse ride.
@@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow - When you test drive these cars and compare them, you’re in the best position to decide. There’s not much difference in the price between the LE and the SE, but you get a better looking car with the SE. I like the SE wheels and the SE interior with power seat and lumbar support for the driver.
@@rembo183loved the SE’s handling. Hated the seats. Didn’t really care for the looks over the LE’s either. The LE with the cold weather and convenience package gets you most everything except good handling, but you gain a softer ride and better gas mileage.
If all you want is a leather wrapped steering wheel. Upgrading to a higher trim level that costs thousands more is overkill.
You can get real leather steering aftermarket wheel cover and have an upholstery shop stitch it on for you if you can’t do it neatly enough yourself.
I bought a custom fit leather steering wheel cover for a Toyota that came with the base plastic wheel and it feels nicer and thicker than OEM.
Which brand was the leather steering wheel cover?
@@HumbleBearcat Wheelskins.
The cold weather package on the LE comes with a heated leather steering wheel, as well as heated seats.
@@wirenut3020 Cold weather package requires convenience package. So, unless you were going to get the convenience package anyway, you are spending thousands of dollars just to get a leather wrapped steering wheel.
I bought the LE AWD with the cold weather package and the convenience package. I really wanted to like the SE but I hated the seats. They’re pleather and cloth and were just immediately uncomfortable to sit in for me. I really liked the SE’s handling though. The LE leaves a bit to be desired there -for me. Great car though-we couldn’t be more pleased with it.
What good video shots!!
i don't care about all the fancy stuff, i just want a car that will get me from point A to point B, and not have to worry if it won't get me to point C. Thank God for toyota
Well done, I enjoyed your review.
I agree. Buying an LE is a far better deal than buying an SE. The SE is just a cash grab trim.
@@jxmar_ The SE has nicer seats with power drives seat, and much nicer wheels and other sporty exterior trim accents. It’s worth the extra money. It also has sport tuned suspension.
@@rembo183 Consumer Reports for many years has said that the SE rides worse than the LE but does not handle any better.
@@jameswillett7186 Having had both the LE and SE models, the SE's suspension is firmer and holds the road better, less body roll in the corners, the seats offer better lateral support and the interior finish is a little more luxurious.
For more comfort, it's the LE, for more sportiness the SE, the suspension is really firmer.
@@rembo183i downgraded from an SE to an LE after losing 2 wheels to 3 potholes because of the low profile wheels. The LE rides way smoother and absorbs more road imperfections. In the se, if you ran over something, you frickn FELT it.
@ - The wheels on SE are 18” and no problem so far. I agree I like the 16” wheels on LE but liked styling and overall features of SE plus I just purchased my SE so not trading yet! SE is very Smooth riding car and I go around the potholes and drive slow if I can!
Good review & I consider buy this car one day.
I do plan on buying this car,the base trim just would like to spend a little less don’t know if that’s possible
Very interesting thanks for this video…. I love to upgrade to the 2025.
From the reviews I’ve listened to, the SE has a firmer ride while the LE has a comfortable ride. If comfort is what you’re after the LE is the one. Oh, 16 inch wheels also helps with the ride and when you need tires, they will be MUCH cheaper! Just sayin…
I'm still trying to wrap my head around "who doesn't want a more comfortable ride?" Just got an LE with the two packages; rides much smoother and quieter than my 2019 XLE trade-in. The LE seats are softer than my old XLE and the range of lumbar support is greater. Also noticed the heated seats are warmer.
LE is a better car than the SE. It rides better and it gets better fuel economy.
How does the road noise in the LE compare to the XLE? Is the LE quieter because it has 16 inch wheels, or does the XLE have additional soundproofing that makes it quieter in spite of 18 inch wheels?
Looks better in base form IMO
The cloth seats are stiffer? Really? I read other reviews that said the leather heated seats are much more stiffer than the LE's cloth seats.
I sat in the xle and the seats are just as stiff as the le. I was hoping to get rid of my 2023 SE because I can’t stand the seats. 👎
Thanks Boston
High end cloth would be a nice option. Some people don't want leather seats and don't want the basement trim. While the synthetic stuff is much nicer than it was. It's still a form of vinyl. AKA polyurethane. The stuff records ⏺️ were made out of.
Any cushion recommendation for the LE? My dad also thought too firm after +1hr driving.
That’s funny I heard that the higher trims had more uncomfortable seats. I thought with the cloth seats it would be more comfortable.
@@sammyjammy6647 Well I just drove my parents' new LE from LA to Vegas and back and would say I had no problems w/ the cloth seats at all. If you start feeling uncomfortable, playing around w/ the auto seat adj helps and it also has lumbar adj which I didn't touch much. Great car and TSS was seamless too. Only issue is bluetooth connectivity doesnt auto connect all the time which ppl are aware of.
but can you get this thousands below MSRP or will it be jacked up in price like many Toyotas?
Le is better looking than se
It is great with convenience pack, you won't regret it
Heard when u step on it,,the ecvt makes lot of noise
AWESOME VIDEO KEEP UP THE AMAZING WORK 🎉😊 🇺🇲💙VOTE BLUE 💙🇺🇲
17:41 seriously bro??
i just got LE price out the door 27k😊
With/without trade in?
What state?
@ I am got hybrid one. I am like it I thought the end of October they slow and that’s why they sold me a one under manufacture price
What dealership
Which options for that price?
Not trying to point you out but genuinely curious about the seats on the LE. In your SE video you mentioned that the cloth seats in LE were softer than the softex seats in SE. In this video, you said that the seats in SE are softer so I'm confused which one is your final verdict.
ua-cam.com/video/PrMNxmxywCo/v-deo.html
Never said the LE’s seats were softer. I said if you were looking for a more lux experience go with the LE or XLE because the SE’s seats were firmer and fit the trim’s sportier persona.
I also said that you might find the cloth seats to be more comfortable because everyone has their own preferences, but I never gave my own personal take on whether the softex seats were better than cloth.
The body gap between the hood and front clip on this particular car is terrible.
First thing I’ll do, remove LE letter off.
Why!😅
30,000 is still a lot of money
Average is $47k now and probably going to get more expensive if Trump initiates his tariffs and trade war
Can tell you’re still a newbie when it comes to reviewing cars. Like most furniture you sit in when new the seats need to be broken in before they become More comfortable.
Brother, those seats were some of the firmest I’ve felt in the near 8 years of reviewing vehicles. I wasn’t going to sit there and lie to people telling them they’re plush when that wasn’t what I was experiencing, especially after recently featuring an SE and XLE.
I've seen several reviews with the same comment about the very firm seats in the LE
Annoying comment. He does a great, thorough job and has been for a long time. And quality car seats, or furniture for that matter, shouldn't have too much of a "break in", especially on cloth seats. The foam density should be consistent regardless of use.
It's not necessary to be a rude clown apparently you're a newbie on manners
No if it's not comfortable within a few weeks they should be sent back..... what a stupid comment
The base model looks so cheap!
@@ascanius_son_of_aeneas5344 - Yes that’s why I went with the SE, it was a big difference. The SE wheels and exterior trim helps the look The car exterior in the gun metal gray with black trim looks great. I also got black overlays for lettering and badging which gives the exterior a pop. Nice styling for sedan and great ride. Cost was $34k
this is more of an refresh than a redesign. Body of the car is the same.
The LE is not a looker in my option, it's an everyday commuter that offers wonderful MPG and comfort with the wright options, also a great price!
@@4FJM - Yes indeed it’s the best value as long as you’re ok without the extra convenience features of power driver seat and interior upgrades etc. I wanted the lumbar support and liked the upgraded interior with fake leather seats and the sporty design of exterior wheels. The difference in price was only about $2,000.
What the hell has happened to cars? Could we get any more BORING 😴 cars have no personality we have become a bunch of practical conformist brain dead idiots!
Dont like the look of front end..design of car boring
Actually, Toyota was the ONLY manufacturer who never gave dual zone auto climate control as standard. Honda has had it for a LONG time as standard equipment (almost a decade).
Standard now on the LE even