[Edit: While these wheels improve wet traction, I recommend against riding during a downpour and wet conditions in general because water getting inside your board is a fire hazard. Splashes from wet roads and small puddles are generally fine but it also depends on how well the board is weatherproofed. Many places rain a lot (including Shanghai) so wet roads are sometimes inevitable, and these wheels help with that, but avoid getting your board wet if you can.] --- My voice was not cooperating on the day I was going to film myself so I went with subtitles and borrowed kamijuins’ style (and his dog). How did I do?
I bought them and I regret it. The range is as bad as with Cloudwheels and the traction is rather unpredictable in dry conditions. On cobblestone those wheels tried to kill me a few times.
@@TeamHeat604 I love my Cloudwheels. I'm getting 12-16km on the 27km rated Exway Flex with 44T pulleys with 120mm Clouds. Those Hydro Wheels are advertised for good range. I don't think the give you that.
@@gonzoschmalanzo3066 Thank you for your detailed analysis. I still don't understand why I don't experience those grip-related issues with PUs and CWs. My emphasis lies on the unpredictable nature of losing grip with those Hydros and not the obvious part. There is a huge variety of cobblestone. Some of them even I would consider stupid to ride on and therefore I do not.
⚡🤙🏼 *Whoa,* labelled L & R, they are takin this serious, no gimmick 🤙🏼⚡ Waaaait a minute, had to do a double-take on what channel I'm on when I saw "Kami" 👀😂
I want to see a comparison video of these wheels against other wheels. Particularly the popular 120mm cloud wheels, your standard urethane wheels and some pneumatics. Seeing how the performance differs among these wheels in wet, dirt, gravel type conditions would help understand how everything stacks up..
I was SOOOO confused when I saw Kami in a video, like what the the hell I was watching DKwan, wasn't I? And then it went loose - why the hell there are no Korean subs? Why the video has Chinese streets? Where is white carpet on the floor?! What the hell I'm watching?!
I have the Cloud wheels and the first ride on the Tynee was just rain all day. Having the treads on the slick pavement was a relief honestly, and the board is able to get me basically across town.
On one hand, I have to say, these wheels look fantastic...almost make me want to compare them to some of my RC tires. Then, my brain takes over, reminding me that Esk8s are NOT supposed to be ridden when it's raining, and SHOULDN'T be ridden when the ground is wet (especially as wet as it was in the video). I can say, with 125% certainty, that I will NOT be getting these. Nevertheless, they do still look cool. 🤙🏼
Two questions, what beats the Flex Pro in terms of quality & range? secondly, I totally get how to replace the rear wheel with the hydro wheels but, does the hydro wheel come with that ABEC pulley or it has to be purchased separately? if yes, what's the size or what should we look out for? does the same ABEC pulley allow use to install the transluscent 105mm cloudwheels? and lastly, in this video you showed how to replace the rear wheel, do we have to replace the front wheels stock rings behind the stock 90mm wheel or it doesn't have any? Thanks.
These wheels are counterintuitive. Like your board manufacturer says don’t ride in the rain! These wheels are like ride in the rain or wet surfaces! Think more boards need to come with splash guards over something like this. Great video as always man.
I tried several different kinds of wheels. For range, I stuck with 120mm Cloudwheels. For grip and comfort I used those hollowed 115mm tire like wheels. But when I switched to 175mm pneumatics... I never went back. Now i focus on bigger battery and motors.
The tread wears down quickly and on our 3rd world UK roads the gravel and rough broken tarmac split them easily. Pretty quickly you have to replace them but it's only the outside tread that's gone, you have an entire wheel now going in the bin. Seems very wasteful to me. Wheras urethane wheels you can use them right down to the bearings, as I do.
Skateboards don't need a rain tire. The point of grooves in a tire is to prevent hydroplaning. First off most skateboard wheels dont' even have air in them so you can't hydroplane in the first place. Hydroplaning happens when the pressure of the water trying to get out of the way of the tire is greater than the pressure of the air inside the tire so the tire surface lifts away from the road and is only touching on the outside edges still, which isn't enough surface area to create enough friction, so you slide. If you're on a bicycle tire the air pressure is much much greater so you can't hydroplane, but they put tread in the tires anyway because people expect it. With a urethane wheel there is no air so it's going to require enormous pressure to push it out of the way.
Bro, at 2:38, you show a carbon pulley! where did you source that? I see the two top are icloud and exway but where did you get the leigt carbon model?!
no front but I watch videos so I don't have to read so long, especially those informative kinds beause there's a difference between you "just" reading stuff or really hear the voice with the pronunciation. Non the less good video anyway and yeah will there be a full on review of the black carve 3 ( with (no front!) you & not your partner )?
I live in the Pacific Northwest, just south of British Columbia in Washington State. I need new tires, bruh. Or I have to skateboard with a garbage bag scottish kilt down to my ankles.
Are you sure the wheels have built in speed rings? Included with my wheels when they shipped was a package of speed rings...why would they include that if I don't need it? Any clarification would be nice
Unless you have fenders on your skateboard, then you'll get splashed with mud and water until youre soaked in 5 minutes of riding. So i dont get why these wheels exist.
GRIP, and for the occasional wet spot. That is why I ordered them. My area is a gets a little damp this time of year, and I am looking to have better traction with these. And I am also thinking about 3D printing some fenders as well. Not sure yet.
Theyre more slippery when its dry tho with less contact patch and also less range. Idk ive allways done fine with the boosted 105s in the pouring rain so ion get it.
Definitely don’t recharge at freezing or below. As for riding, expect lower performance but I’m not sure if permanent damage would be done to the battery. Discharging should be ok but you’re also recharging when you brake, so I’m not sure. Hopefully someone else can answer.
If you were going out to buy an eboard today that would survive rainy days, what would you get? Still wanna have fun going off road a bit and descent battery life. Thanks!
I haven’t seen a board I’d trust to ride for a prolonged period in the rain. Most have some sort of gasket but I haven’t seen anything that lets water drain out. Also, haven’t seen a waterproofed remote.
Well when another company releases something worth while or is able to get something to Daniel to review, that's just how it is No point complaining if the competition isn't doing anything different or better
Small puddles and wet ground like in the video should be fine for /most/ boards. Would not ride in heavy rain and generally I would avoid water completely but sometimes you can’t.
@@DanielKwan Yeah I think the main issue lies in that most companies don't cover water damage under warranty. I've ridden my board in wet conditions and it has gotten drenched at least four times and It still works great. Most all terrain boards do pretty well in wet conditions the problem is on the offchance your board does get water damage you're pretty screwed. I'd really love to see a highly waterproof board in the future, maybe does really well in sand by the beach.
Yeah, as a general rule of thumb the smaller the wheel the greater the range. Other factors are there but for the most part thats wheel size is what matters.
The problem of riding your skateboard in the wet . Is not that you lose traction although that has merit but more that you increase the risk of turning your PEV into a bomb . Surprised that Exway even went there. 😳
[Edit: While these wheels improve wet traction, I recommend against riding during a downpour and wet conditions in general because water getting inside your board is a fire hazard. Splashes from wet roads and small puddles are generally fine but it also depends on how well the board is weatherproofed. Many places rain a lot (including Shanghai) so wet roads are sometimes inevitable, and these wheels help with that, but avoid getting your board wet if you can.]
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My voice was not cooperating on the day I was going to film myself so I went with subtitles and borrowed kamijuins’ style (and his dog). How did I do?
It looks like kamijuins dog and kamijuins hand also.
Fishy borrowing hands and dogs lol ;) Miss your voice
Pretty dang good, was this a join video? That's sick if it is.
I had to check if I was watching the right channel. Got me confused a bit.
My vote is to just wait for your voice to come back next time
Kami went out a few days ago without telling me, But now I know Where did Kami go. lol~
He traveled to China without telling you? How come? 😆
Exway co-brands NASA, Daniel co-brands KAMi~ 😉
I bought them and I regret it. The range is as bad as with Cloudwheels and the traction is rather unpredictable in dry conditions. On cobblestone those wheels tried to kill me a few times.
thanks for actually reviewing them lol. Wish Daniel actually described or levied any criticism on these wheels.
@@TeamHeat604 I love my Cloudwheels. I'm getting 12-16km on the 27km rated Exway Flex with 44T pulleys with 120mm Clouds. Those Hydro Wheels are advertised for good range. I don't think the give you that.
Innovation 🧑🔬 is a trial and error 🧪 process, and success is a probability event.
Range as bad as clouds? Cobblestone being unpredictable when obviously you have far less grip? You sir…are dumb.
@@gonzoschmalanzo3066 Thank you for your detailed analysis. I still don't understand why I don't experience those grip-related issues with PUs and CWs. My emphasis lies on the unpredictable nature of losing grip with those Hydros and not the obvious part. There is a huge variety of cobblestone. Some of them even I would consider stupid to ride on and therefore I do not.
⚡🤙🏼 *Whoa,* labelled L & R, they are takin this serious, no gimmick 🤙🏼⚡
Waaaait a minute, had to do a double-take on what channel I'm on when I saw "Kami" 👀😂
Curious how they performe and mostly also in dry conditions as well.
Hahaaaa me too hermano 🤣👌🤌😏
I want to see a comparison video of these wheels against other wheels. Particularly the popular 120mm cloud wheels, your standard urethane wheels and some pneumatics. Seeing how the performance differs among these wheels in wet, dirt, gravel type conditions would help understand how everything stacks up..
I used a set of Revel Snuggs to skate in the snow once...
Would love to see a video on best water resistant boards/how to waterproof your board.
I was SOOOO confused when I saw Kami in a video, like what the the hell I was watching DKwan, wasn't I? And then it went loose - why the hell there are no Korean subs? Why the video has Chinese streets? Where is white carpet on the floor?! What the hell I'm watching?!
I was thinking the same thing
I was thinking the same thing too, Dima))
To be fair Daniel, I love your videos, but those no-talking clips are unnecessary and joyless. Don't see the real benefit of that.
I got my Flex ER, and my cloudwheels a month before this came out already part of the kit.. gutted...
I have the Cloud wheels and the first ride on the Tynee was just rain all day. Having the treads on the slick pavement was a relief honestly, and the board is able to get me basically across town.
On one hand, I have to say, these wheels look fantastic...almost make me want to compare them to some of my RC tires. Then, my brain takes over, reminding me that Esk8s are NOT supposed to be ridden when it's raining, and SHOULDN'T be ridden when the ground is wet (especially as wet as it was in the video). I can say, with 125% certainty, that I will NOT be getting these. Nevertheless, they do still look cool. 🤙🏼
Two questions, what beats the Flex Pro in terms of quality & range? secondly, I totally get how to replace the rear wheel with the hydro wheels but, does the hydro wheel come with that ABEC pulley or it has to be purchased separately? if yes, what's the size or what should we look out for? does the same ABEC pulley allow use to install the transluscent 105mm cloudwheels? and lastly, in this video you showed how to replace the rear wheel, do we have to replace the front wheels stock rings behind the stock 90mm wheel or it doesn't have any? Thanks.
OK, but how do they slide?
What the hell, no dialog? I miss your sweet sweet voice man!
These wheels are counterintuitive. Like your board manufacturer says don’t ride in the rain! These wheels are like ride in the rain or wet surfaces! Think more boards need to come with splash guards over something like this. Great video as always man.
I tried several different kinds of wheels. For range, I stuck with 120mm Cloudwheels. For grip and comfort I used those hollowed 115mm tire like wheels. But when I switched to 175mm pneumatics... I never went back. Now i focus on bigger battery and motors.
pneumatics have different lvl of comform I only wish for a smaller variant
The tread wears down quickly and on our 3rd world UK roads the gravel and rough broken tarmac split them easily. Pretty quickly you have to replace them but it's only the outside tread that's gone, you have an entire wheel now going in the bin. Seems very wasteful to me. Wheras urethane wheels you can use them right down to the bearings, as I do.
Love the wheel reviews! Appreciate the work you put into all of these videos!
Skateboards don't need a rain tire. The point of grooves in a tire is to prevent hydroplaning. First off most skateboard wheels dont' even have air in them so you can't hydroplane in the first place. Hydroplaning happens when the pressure of the water trying to get out of the way of the tire is greater than the pressure of the air inside the tire so the tire surface lifts away from the road and is only touching on the outside edges still, which isn't enough surface area to create enough friction, so you slide. If you're on a bicycle tire the air pressure is much much greater so you can't hydroplane, but they put tread in the tires anyway because people expect it. With a urethane wheel there is no air so it's going to require enormous pressure to push it out of the way.
Bro, at 2:38, you show a carbon pulley! where did you source that? I see the two top are icloud and exway but where did you get the leigt carbon model?!
is it possible to use Cloud wheel Rovers 110 mm with belt model of Exway wave ?
no front but I watch videos so I don't have to read so long, especially those informative kinds beause there's a difference between you "just" reading stuff or really hear the voice with the pronunciation.
Non the less good video anyway and yeah will there be a full on review of the black carve 3 ( with (no front!) you & not your partner )?
Yes I will cover the BC3.
I got confused if this was Kami Jun's video.
I have these wheels and i feel like they are just a gimmick, i will swap to clouds when they weat out
Not a big fan of these style videos, super boring 😢
Lol me, this feels like a kami vidio.. this is dk right?
Not to improve ride quality!😱
Even if i had these wheels, i still wouldn't ride in the rain cuz there are no mudguards. Dirty griptape,shoes,jeans guaranteed.
I live in the Pacific Northwest, just south of British Columbia in Washington State.
I need new tires, bruh. Or I have to skateboard with a garbage bag scottish kilt down to my ankles.
What’s this music lol 😅
Are you sure the wheels have built in speed rings? Included with my wheels when they shipped was a package of speed rings...why would they include that if I don't need it? Any clarification would be nice
Hey why are u not in the video ?
Not a huge fan of weird giant Abec Clone core in the back but combining with Boosted core in the front. It's just weird looking wheels to me.
These are a bad idea. Most everyone avoids riding in the rain. It will ruin your board.
I'm very sorry about your voice, man. I hope you feel better!
Can’t ride when it’s wet my pants 👖 get all dirty and shoes 🥲🥲
Unless you have fenders on your skateboard, then you'll get splashed with mud and water until youre soaked in 5 minutes of riding. So i dont get why these wheels exist.
GRIP, and for the occasional wet spot. That is why I ordered them.
My area is a gets a little damp this time of year, and I am looking to have better traction with these.
And I am also thinking about 3D printing some fenders as well. Not sure yet.
sometimes you have no choice, especially if its used as a commuter (like i do)
ill happy take what i can get to improve safety when roads get damp
Theyre more slippery when its dry tho with less contact patch and also less range. Idk ive allways done fine with the boosted 105s in the pouring rain so ion get it.
Will these wheels with 36t pulleys effect my top speed on the atlas pro
ESK8 tech has come such a long way
The slippy wheels are the only complaint I have with my wave, but damn these wheels are expensive.
You could use these wheels on Wave?
@@richguev Yes, according to their website
i legit thought it was KAMi JUINs
I have a dedicated rainboard that could use these!
Did you lose your voice? Why no talky?
My voice comes and goes lately
Wheels are awesome but I wouldn't ride in the rain...
Daniel... Do you hate me?... Here I am trying my hardest to save money then you come out with this video... (Adds to cart)
Sorry
You make TireVideo enjoying! Thanks!
Hi! Do you guys know if it's Ok for the battery to ride below zero. In minus 5 or 10°C ?
Definitely don’t recharge at freezing or below. As for riding, expect lower performance but I’m not sure if permanent damage would be done to the battery. Discharging should be ok but you’re also recharging when you brake, so I’m not sure. Hopefully someone else can answer.
I don't want to ride in the rain. It's miserable.
I wanna see the dad bod wheels
I need your voice
Did you steal Kami's clip? haha.
I…borrowed
No audio?
They looks so good. Almost like some stretched tires haha
If you were going out to buy an eboard today that would survive rainy days, what would you get? Still wanna have fun going off road a bit and descent battery life. Thanks!
I haven’t seen a board I’d trust to ride for a prolonged period in the rain. Most have some sort of gasket but I haven’t seen anything that lets water drain out. Also, haven’t seen a waterproofed remote.
Thank you! @@DanielKwan
Channel really starting to feel like an Exway shill lately
Well when another company releases something worth while or is able to get something to Daniel to review, that's just how it is
No point complaining if the competition isn't doing anything different or better
Are you able to use these with the backfire zealot, if so what do you need to buy to use them?
Pretty sure you can swap these on without buying anything else.
What eskates are even compatible? Knowing that many are easily damaged by water. I would love to know! Thanks
meepo hurricane already has AT wheels but I've heard people ride it in rainstorms and be fine.
Small puddles and wet ground like in the video should be fine for /most/ boards. Would not ride in heavy rain and generally I would avoid water completely but sometimes you can’t.
@@DanielKwan Yeah I think the main issue lies in that most companies don't cover water damage under warranty. I've ridden my board in wet conditions and it has gotten drenched at least four times and It still works great. Most all terrain boards do pretty well in wet conditions the problem is on the offchance your board does get water damage you're pretty screwed. I'd really love to see a highly waterproof board in the future, maybe does really well in sand by the beach.
Can you put these on an Atlas and will it improve mileage compared to the AT tires?
Thank you!
Yeah, as a general rule of thumb the smaller the wheel the greater the range. Other factors are there but for the most part thats wheel size is what matters.
Yes the mileage should be close to the stock 90mm wheels.
Will these only fit belt driven boards?
Belt and direct drive (if you have the right core), no hubs
The problem of riding your skateboard in the wet . Is not that you lose traction although that has merit but more that you increase the risk of turning your PEV into a bomb . Surprised that Exway even went there. 😳
I should have addressed that in the video.
They look good unfortunately I have hub FML 🫤