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  • What is Air Tightness Testing and how can it help in draught proofing your home?
    This week Robert is joined on location by Dean Fielding from the charity Zero Carbon World and also Fully Charged LIVE’s Home Energy Advice Team.
    They’re in a domestic property to see one of the most effective and cost efficient tests you can do to identify where your home is leaking warm air, and therefore energy and money.
    Outside of new build developments, air permeability or air tightness testing isn’t widely known, yet it can be very successful in finding areas of your property where warm air is leaking out.
    By identifying and fixing these problem areas there is the potential to make your home warmer, quieter and more comfortable to live in, whilst at the same time saving you money on your energy bills.
    TYPICAL LEAKY PLACES IN HOUSES:
    Bottoms of skirting boards
    Behind kitchen sinks & under plinths
    Behind toilets & under baths
    Pipes & cables through walls
    Light Fittings & plug sockets
    ‘Dot & Dab’ Plaster Boards
    Voids between floors
    Fireplaces & Chimneys
    Redundant Air Bricks
    Poorly Fitted Windows
    Loft Hatches
    Any perforations in ceilings, walls or floors either inside or
    outside of the property.
    0:00 Intro
    00:45 What is it?
    02:07 Robert’s Biggest Fan
    03:21 That’s Windy
    04:07 Leaky Loft Hatch
    05:26 Quick Tips
    06:14 Cost Savings
    06:55 No Fresh Air?
    07:39 Does it work on any House?
    09:36 Good News Regs
    10:00 Get Tested
    11:00 Outro
    Find out more about Zero Carbon World here: zerocarbonworld.org
    The Testing Team were from NATTS: northernairtesting.co.uk
    Sources of help with getting your home tested:
    ATTMA: www.bcta.group/attma/members/...
    Elmhurst Energy: www.elmhurstenergy.co.uk
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  • @ashmcconnell3868
    @ashmcconnell3868 Рік тому +128

    Would be nice to have an episode on how to plug these gaps for a DIY dummy like myself :)

    • @deanfielding4411
      @deanfielding4411 Рік тому +22

      It’s super easy using basic materials/expanding foam, use up out of date sealants etc.
      Have a look at our blog in the description!
      😊

    • @ashmcconnell3868
      @ashmcconnell3868 Рік тому +2

      @@deanfielding4411 Thanks Dean!

    • @julianshepherd2038
      @julianshepherd2038 Рік тому +15

      @@deanfielding4411 it's easy but not super easy so I would recommend not being very, very drunk when you do it.

    • @hellcat1988
      @hellcat1988 Рік тому +5

      There are dozens of old home improvement videos here on youtube like This Old House or Holmes On Homes which will show you everything from simple insulation improvements to full on renovation tricks.

    • @matthewmcmullan9669
      @matthewmcmullan9669 Рік тому +6

      You don't want to plug up an old house completely you'll end up with damp and mold

  • @grannarten8732
    @grannarten8732 Рік тому +123

    I'm a builder in Norway and here we have to test every new building, the requirements for new houses are below 1 air exchange per hour.
    We just tested 6 connected houses and got a score of 0.22 which we were quite happy with, seeing as passive house standard is 0.6
    We obviously use mechanical ventilation in all houses to ensure sufficient fresh air.
    This comment is not meant to brag but inform, I have to say I was a bit surprised to hear how leaky an average British house is

    • @deanfielding4411
      @deanfielding4411 Рік тому +4

      Sad but true! We need to fix the leaks!

    • @rafalobo5308
      @rafalobo5308 Рік тому +2

      Leakiest in Europe, I live in one.

    • @justinstephenson9360
      @justinstephenson9360 Рік тому +20

      UK houses are on average some of the oldest in Europe, but sadly we have a house building industry which incredibly resistant to any change which means even now we are building some really poor houses.

    • @IDann1
      @IDann1 Рік тому +1

      It gets a lot colder in Norway, compared to the UK

    • @grannarten8732
      @grannarten8732 Рік тому +12

      @@IDann1 true, but a airtight house helps to keep it cool in the summer as well, goes both ways although more noticeable when it's 20 below freezing 👍

  • @woody4431
    @woody4431 Рік тому +19

    I love how Dean followed Robert through the kitchen door also pretending he was fighting a bitter arctic gale. Good man!

  • @klaxoncow
    @klaxoncow Рік тому +14

    It'd be good to see more of these practical kind of videos, Robert.
    I mean, not that this is a DIY channel, of course, but I think people would love and appreciate videos where there's actual practical advice that they can follow.
    Like, honestly, it could be as simple as just watching someone run some sealant around the edges of their window or skirting boards or whatever. It might not sound like the most riveting of content, but I bet you it'd end up as one of your most watched.
    Basically, most of your viewers are already 100% on board with this sort of thing. They don't need "the green sales pitch" so much, as the "and here's how, in reality, you'd actually do it" practical stuff too.
    Particularly when we're talking insulation and heat leaks and such. This is actually the cheapest - yet most effective - measure anyone can take.
    You know, if you're not using the energy in the first place - because you don't have to turn the heating on or, when you do, it's less frequent and turned down - then that's the best thing for the environment, and your wallet. And compared to buying heat pumps, solar panels and house batteries, a few rolls of loft insulation and a tube or two of sealant is not going to break the bank for most people. It's something nearly everyone can do, doesn't cost much and yet is amongst the most effective measures possible.

    • @klaxoncow
      @klaxoncow Рік тому +1

      Short version: the UK has the leakiest housing stock in Europe. Folks would love practical advice about cheap and easy ways to rectify that.

  • @PassportToPimlico
    @PassportToPimlico Рік тому +29

    I had to replace a fitted kitchen unit. I've never had to see behind before. What I discovered was a ventilation brick that was left over from when many years ago there was an old fashioned larder in the corner of the kitchen. Basically an A5 sized brick mesh to the outside. I used spray foam to seal it and it has had a profound difference on how warm the house is. I also did wonder how ants could get into our kitchen, so a double bonus there.

    • @deanfielding4411
      @deanfielding4411 Рік тому +5

      Brilliant. So glad you’ve found that out! That’s a exactly what we wanted to get across in the video. It’s all about finding those unknown leaky bits!

    • @bimblinghill
      @bimblinghill Рік тому

      Very similar for me but behind a washing machine. A can of foam can make a big difference!

    • @xxwookey
      @xxwookey Рік тому +1

      Kitchens are often bad due to being hacked about over the years for updates. Mostly the old holes just get left. Ours was freezing for a decade until we finally worked out where the holes were, and bunged them up (And rationalised the plumbing so fewer holes through the wall+EWI.

    • @robinbennett5994
      @robinbennett5994 Рік тому +3

      If you have a gas cooker, that may have been required ventilation.
      www.gassaferegister.co.uk/media/2194/tb-005-a-gas-cookers-in-internal-kitchens-eng-wales-iom-and-guernsey-vent-requirements.pdf

    • @PassportToPimlico
      @PassportToPimlico Рік тому

      @@robinbennett5994 I think that this had been part of a built in larder, but we have now gone electric in our cooking anyway.

  • @waqasahmed939
    @waqasahmed939 Рік тому +5

    Freaking yes!
    I had an air tightness test before this episode, and it shows exactly how much air is leaking, and it shows how I can make my house more air tight
    I intend on adding an MVHR too

    • @deanfielding4411
      @deanfielding4411 Рік тому

      Brilliant to hear thank you. Please spread the word!

  • @bigjd2k
    @bigjd2k Рік тому +16

    My bungalow was really airtight, had to run a dehumidifier most days in the winter to get rid of the condensation. Got new windows which have trickle vents in the top, which don't close completely. Have a lot less damp now, and haven't noticed it getting any colder than before. What would be better still would be mechanical heat recovery, using a heat exchanger to pre-heat incoming air with extracted air. But that's quite expensive, might have a look at it next year.

    • @oakfieldfarm4131
      @oakfieldfarm4131 Рік тому +5

      MVHR is quite easy to retro-fit in a bungalow - much easier than a house, anyway :)

    • @robinbennett5994
      @robinbennett5994 Рік тому

      You probably only need to ventilate the bathroom. A single room MVHR is much cheaper than a whole house system, and easier to DIY

    • @jur4x
      @jur4x Рік тому

      Shouldn't be expensive. Here in Latvia, you can get so called mini-recuperators starting from €150+delivery. At that pricepoint you are looking at 20-25m³/h airflow and a very simple switch to operate it. And they are relatively easy to install - just drill a large hole in the wall and shove it in there.
      At higher pricepoints you start getting higher airflow, remote controls, apps, and sensors that regulate airflows based on airquality.

    • @QH96
      @QH96 Рік тому

      @@oakfieldfarm4131 should cost about £7000 not cheap

    • @edc1569
      @edc1569 Рік тому

      quite easy to fit to most bungalows though!

  • @Vlican
    @Vlican Рік тому +14

    a test like this costs about $300 here in GTA, Canada... you can do something similar by turning on every exhaust in your house (washrooms, kitchen range) and going around with an incense stick to feel for leakage

    • @markthomasson5077
      @markthomasson5077 Рік тому

      Not sure if that would powerful enough, have you done it?
      Of course the colder it is outside the better you feel the draughts

    • @Vlican
      @Vlican Рік тому

      @@markthomasson5077 a kitchen hood exhaust can pull 400cfm (depending on model) and each bathroom exhaust can pull 80cfm (again, depending on model). Combined together, that's definitely enough to depressurize a house and you will feel that make up air leaking in.

    • @koitorob
      @koitorob Рік тому

      There are no exhausts in my house. I just open a window when things get smelly or steamy.

    • @edc1569
      @edc1569 Рік тому

      remember to close all your trickle vents and block any vent bricks during this test.

  • @jonfarcher
    @jonfarcher Рік тому +1

    Just had NATTS in to perform the test after seeing this video.
    So glad I did, what a superb service and really informative, not only found air leaks but advised how to resolve them.
    Thankfully not a great deal of work to improve things and a surprisingly good score of 4.
    The house previously suffered issues of condensation and mold, but I fitted a PIV unit a number of years ago which resolved that. Have a potential (with the ventilation unit) to get down to 0.5.

  • @theamateurguitarist6187
    @theamateurguitarist6187 Рік тому +7

    But remember some older properties need to have an airflow. Blocking this off can cause bigger problems like mild and damp.

    • @Boz1211111
      @Boz1211111 Рік тому

      All properties. This is just unnecesary. My windows leak a lot and i still have to open them ocasionaly to let some fresh air in. People who have everything airtight cant even close windows without getting wet walls and mold

    • @ecoworrier
      @ecoworrier Рік тому +1

      @Boz 2011 you need airtightness + mvhr. Then you will have less humidity, less mould and fresher interior air.

  • @artsiyaartsiya5698
    @artsiyaartsiya5698 Рік тому +1

    Great to meet you today Dean….it’s clear you’re very passionate about ecology and renewable energy sources…keep up the good work :-) Asiya and Lauren :-)

  • @motchmanjames9347
    @motchmanjames9347 Рік тому +11

    Definitely going to get this done... I have been looking for the leaks and found lots. Especially around badly fitted double glazing. No insulation between the frame and the wall.... Lots of form fill.

    • @dalemoore11
      @dalemoore11 Рік тому

      Totally waste of money unless you are going to keep every vents taped up

    • @motchmanjames9347
      @motchmanjames9347 Рік тому +2

      @@dalemoore11 if your home was leaking as bad as mine and spending £10 a day on energy I am sure you would do something to keep the cold outside. A warm wife is a happy wife.

    • @deanfielding4411
      @deanfielding4411 Рік тому

      @@dalemoore11 No it isn’t and our trials and test have proven such. 😊 makes up to 20% difference, we measure the uncontrolled ventilation.

  • @jeffpowell1616
    @jeffpowell1616 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for this, very useful info.😊

  • @richardschofield2201
    @richardschofield2201 Рік тому +15

    It really should be a DIY kit you can rent. I want to pay £30 to find the leaks, not £400 for someone to tell me where the leaks are.

    • @xxwookey
      @xxwookey Рік тому +10

      We made one from a car radiator fan in a bit of OSB. It's gone round several local houses. You don't get an accurate ach number, but it's easy to pressurise to 40 or 50kPa on normal-sized houses (50 is the test for the standard) and then you can go round finding all the holes and take as long as you like over it. It's usually easier to put it in a window-opener than in a door. A bit of pipe with water in (manometer) suffices for a primitive pressure guage. Later we got a better one, and a hot-wire anemometer for accurately fiding and quantifying leaks. I didn't fancy paying £300 either, although now we've done most of the work I will do so soon to get an calibrated number (and calibrate our contraption).

    • @waqasahmed939
      @waqasahmed939 Рік тому

      Agreed. I paid £280 for mine and it'd be nice to pay less than that

    • @anthonydyer3939
      @anthonydyer3939 Рік тому

      You can diy it! Close up the house, and then run the cooker/kitchen/bathroom extractor fans all at once. It’s not as powerful as a blower door test but if these these can pull smoke out of a cold fireplace, then they’re good enough.
      Then go around with a thermal camera/ir thermometer to find where cold air is leaking in.
      My 2nd most recent video has me going around my house with a thermal camera. They can be had for around £350 and they aren’t just handy for energy audits, they are excellent tools for all kinds of diagnostics.

    • @Oppledom
      @Oppledom Рік тому +2

      Well the kit is £6k and the course for how to use it and calculate air permeability is expensive and time to train and to do several test houses. But yeah I absolutely hear you a cheaper alternative that doesn't do all that would be really beneficial. Combining with themal cameras in winter can be even more revealing. Shame they didn't showcase using smoke with the fan to find leaks.

  • @frejaresund3770
    @frejaresund3770 Рік тому +1

    I have been enjoyed, so thank you for delivering.

  • @jdanielpUK
    @jdanielpUK Рік тому +12

    Slightly disappointed at the lack of a reference to The Crystal Maze when starting the fan, but otherwise very informative...

    • @salibaba
      @salibaba Рік тому

      You never know if they do a short of it on YT if Bobby gets it done, perhaps KRYTEN will stand in place of Richard Obrien.

  • @edc1569
    @edc1569 Рік тому +1

    What I like about this is its a way of determining if the builder has actually done what they said they've done, need to ensure its performed by an independent organisation that doesn't get backhanders!

  • @will4375
    @will4375 Рік тому +1

    Love this and it's so important!

  • @brianadamson6607
    @brianadamson6607 Рік тому +2

    I live in a 1930’s semi detached . Walls insulated , loft insulated and fully double glazed . Over the years I’ve lived here I have constantly plugged gaps . It’s an ongoing project as I constantly find more places were the heat leaks

  • @mgbdave
    @mgbdave Рік тому +2

    Yes I’ve been waiting for this show.

  • @mikemellor759
    @mikemellor759 Рік тому +1

    Sounds like a cost effective way of identifying major insulation & leak issues - thanks

  • @TC-V8
    @TC-V8 Рік тому

    Changed my loft hatch from a plywood leaky hatch to a sealed and insulated one and the difference was amazing and noticeable instantly.
    Also sealed up above my daughters wide double glazed window - again noticeable improvement just standing by the window no longer cold.

  • @alanshaw5286
    @alanshaw5286 Рік тому +2

    This is one of many of the tests I have found through watching your shows that will be adopted in our new home.

    • @jrisner6535
      @jrisner6535 Рік тому

      You'll have to anyway - all new homes need an air tightness test

    • @waqasahmed939
      @waqasahmed939 Рік тому +1

      @@jrisner6535 Their new home might not be brand new lol. My "new home" was made in 1975

  • @daviddingwall2083
    @daviddingwall2083 Рік тому +2

    I've had this done in many (newer) properties, it's great. So easy to justify making incremental improvements. In older properties with solid walls (my latest is two foot thick basalt) with damp problems, installing a Positive Input Ventilation System (PIV) to push out moisture you need some small leaks in the property to exhaust the slight positive air pressure created from inside to out

    • @bimblinghill
      @bimblinghill Рік тому

      2 foot thick basalt? Sounds like an interesting place/project!

    • @asilver2889
      @asilver2889 Рік тому

      Maybe you mean granite or whinstone solid walls?

    • @daviddingwall2083
      @daviddingwall2083 Рік тому +1

      @@asilver2889 nope. I had it tested.

  • @80y3r9
    @80y3r9 Рік тому +6

    I'm confused; this wasn't just someone reading out a brochure and trying to make me rent a car for insane money, more of this please

  • @lukepeacham9663
    @lukepeacham9663 Рік тому

    Great episode thank you

  • @nathanshearman1269
    @nathanshearman1269 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for this, useful thing to have done. What I like is this is possible for renters to do as well. I'd like to see more videos on things renters might be able to do, as not everyone owns their own home and can fit heat pumps etc.

    • @deanfielding4411
      @deanfielding4411 Рік тому +1

      It is possible for renters definitely. What we need to do is get the government to change the regulations so that they count this towards EPC scores for existing housing. Currently they just assume a score of 15 for every house and you can’t change the score so can’t show an improvement, but it’s different for new builds! Please tell the government and your local MP. We need to change this so that landlords have an incentive to do this.

    • @asilver2889
      @asilver2889 Рік тому

      When renting old farmhouse I did my own draught proofing, cheap and easy, gaps round windows, doors, open letterbox (!!), under kitchen sink, skirtings and loft hatch - but that did need a stepladder.
      EPCs are truly rubbish. Suggesting unsuitable cavity wall insulation (solid walls) and taking no notice of thermal mass etc.

  • @charlesmathews5840
    @charlesmathews5840 Рік тому +4

    My house has two HUGE leaking places that I'm aware of, the front door and the back door. Reason..... my wife was born in a barn! 😂

    • @koitorob
      @koitorob Рік тому

      I'm sure adding two new doors would cut down MY draughts by a large percentage too.

  • @emmaatkinson4334
    @emmaatkinson4334 Рік тому +3

    I think it is important for widespread adoption to find a way to manage the trade-off between the cost of works (e.g. improving airtightness) against reduced heating, reduced cooling and increased controlled ventilation costs. I would like to prepare something like a cash-flow forecast for heating, ventilation and cooling that gives a Return On Investment.
    I don't think it is particularly easy to produce such a model or plan for one's house. E.g. where might I find a good source for a (working) energy cost forecast over 5, 10 and 15 years?
    Does this sort of thing already exist?

  • @knowledgebyte
    @knowledgebyte Рік тому +1

    Eee bah gum lad, that wa an epic show. We’d just put on an extra woolly over our string vests and eat a bit more int winter. Funnily enough I went through this exercise myself and sealed up two wooden doors with keyholes. I designed a 3D printed TPU keyhole plug as a right draft was coming through the doors. It’s up on thingyverse, so help yourselves. Look for Key hole plug.

  • @krisb2038
    @krisb2038 Рік тому +2

    We live in passive house and it's life changing on comfort and cost. This test is indeed one of the key elements of modern houses

    • @waqasahmed939
      @waqasahmed939 Рік тому +2

      Honestly, it's annoying that it isn't mainstream. I reckon the people who know about this either knew about it before this video OR are people who are already interested in this sorta stuff, so it's not exactly reaching the masses

    • @deanfielding4411
      @deanfielding4411 Рік тому

      @@waqasahmed939 Precisely why I thought doing this video was important. Thanks and please spread the word and be an eco super hero!

  • @danielmadar9938
    @danielmadar9938 Рік тому

    Thank you

  • @salibaba
    @salibaba Рік тому +2

    Well I know what I’m up to over christmas time off.
    Dig fan out the loft.
    Get thick bin liners.
    DIY shop- loads of duct tape
    Raid the my shed and dads junk cupboard for spare foam, off cuts of plasterboard and silicone.
    Go round the house with a tissue on a stick.
    TBF, we had EWI done 2yrs ago and know where the big issues are now.
    Front door- knackered
    Old coal fire breather in our bay window.
    Single glazed wood framed tiny window in our pantry.

  • @stuartleonard1060
    @stuartleonard1060 Рік тому +3

    All British houses have letter boxes in the front that leak. Seal it and get a lockable letter box on the front of the house.
    All new houses should have heat exchanges for fresh air.

  • @06howea1
    @06howea1 Рік тому

    Every home needs to do this

  • @bedguru4340
    @bedguru4340 Рік тому +1

    Had our 1904 terrace house tested, amazing what you can do with a report and a few £s of silicon sealer

    • @deanfielding4411
      @deanfielding4411 Рік тому +1

      Brilliant to hear. Thanks for sharing.

    • @bedguru4340
      @bedguru4340 Рік тому

      @@deanfielding4411 They took photos of all the gaps so been easy to follow and seal everywhere

  • @crabby7668
    @crabby7668 Рік тому +1

    We used to do these tests for installing halon systems in computer rooms. In a domestic house, be aware if you seal the house too well you will probably get condensation and damp. The air needs to circulate. You also need to exchange oxygen and co2 with the outside, particularly if you have any type of combustion heating eg gas, coal, wood burners etc

    • @edc1569
      @edc1569 Рік тому

      That's why on older properties you have trickle window vents, combined with bathroom and kitchen extraction and on newer properties you have mechanical ventilation with heat recovery.

    • @crabby7668
      @crabby7668 Рік тому

      I wonder how much energy is used mechanically circulating the air, versus the amount saved by recovery? In a commercial setting where the system is designed specifically for this, I would imagine it could be cost effective, ut for the average residential box, I wonder.

  • @shawnr771
    @shawnr771 Рік тому +1

    For the attic hatch there are special made insulation blankets.
    They mount in the attic around the opening and zip closed.
    Like a big reusable grocery bag material.
    Super easy to install.

    • @deanfielding4411
      @deanfielding4411 Рік тому +1

      That sounds like a great idea can you post a link?

    • @shawnr771
      @shawnr771 Рік тому

      @@deanfielding4411 Search Attic Hatch Cover.
      When I post links people report me for spam.
      So I quit doing it.

    • @asilver2889
      @asilver2889 Рік тому

      Good, but still need to seal the hatch edges.

    • @shawnr771
      @shawnr771 Рік тому +1

      @@asilver2889 The ones I saw doing pest control sealed around the framing.
      I think it was some kind of double sided tape.

  • @judebrown4103
    @judebrown4103 Рік тому +1

    Don't quite understand the links, they seem to be business and training links not for consumers.
    Anyway I can do this easily in my house without the aid of a fan. There's a howling gale comes through all the holes in it so I know what needs blocking up, it's just the doing of it that's the problem!
    Great programme, makes you realise it's important to get around to these things. 👍

  • @FirstDan2000
    @FirstDan2000 Рік тому +1

    Robert hit the nail on the head when he said if you spread that out across the whole country the savings would be big.
    It's quite a simple thing to plug some gaps in one house. If the whole country did it the efficiency savings would be enormous.

    • @deanfielding4411
      @deanfielding4411 Рік тому +1

      Indeed it would probably save more gas than Fracking would ever make!

  • @oootoob
    @oootoob Рік тому +1

    Maybe it's me but I couldn't find a list of assessors on either the ATMA or Elmhurst websites - the first just seems to be a trade association and the latter a training organisation.

    • @deanfielding4411
      @deanfielding4411 Рік тому +1

      I’ll try and get a direct link to the list posted on our website or in description.

  • @coniow
    @coniow Рік тому +3

    It would be interesting to know if a house heated with infrared panels is better at keeping warm than radiators. If you are losing 'hot air' then you will have to replace it by heating the incoming cold air, but if the fabric of the house is warm, and the air is heated from that, is the loss of air going to have a lesser effect on how much energy you use?

    • @piraterubberduck6056
      @piraterubberduck6056 Рік тому

      There are a lot of factors to consider including; the wall build up, heating positions, insulation and thermal bridging, the use of the building, in particular when is it occupied during the average week, how much external surface area the building has (terraced houses are actually a good thing), the thermal mass of the building, how the air circulates within the building, the layout, and the thermal comfort. Higher speed air makes you feel cooler for example. I took part in a thermal comfort study a while ago, then the woman running the study left the UK due to uncertainty about if her qualifications would even be recognised after Brexit. No idea what came of that, but Salford University build Energy House 2, so there is still people left working on these studies.

  • @andytrewin
    @andytrewin Рік тому

    Well done Robert - so important - Merry Christmas - KR Andy Trewin W-s-M 🎅🌲

  • @achim.t
    @achim.t Рік тому +3

    Mandatory in Germany for new houses. And as we love to invent pseudo-English words (like Handy for mobile phone, Public Viewing for watching soccer on large screens on marketplaces, or Home Office for remote work) we call it a "Blower-door Test"! :-)

    • @thetj8243
      @thetj8243 Рік тому

      That's one point I thought through the video... Oh Blower-Door-Test isn't an English word 😄

    • @xxwookey
      @xxwookey Рік тому +2

      We call it a blower-door test here too.

    • @koitorob
      @koitorob Рік тому

      Surely that would depend on which side of the door you are? You could call it the door sucker test...

  • @ColinCarFan
    @ColinCarFan Рік тому +1

    This video omits to mention that you need ventilation in your home to remove moisture and help prevent mould. Earlier comments by @JonnyDickson are spot on - Seal Tight, Insulate and Ventilate Right.

    • @deanfielding4411
      @deanfielding4411 Рік тому

      I did mention the importance of ventilation in the video, but didn’t get time to explain all about mould prevention etc.

  • @ianwilson3674
    @ianwilson3674 Рік тому +1

    Good info IMHO every new build property should have MVHR fitted as standard plus an airtightness certificate it's not rocket science, shame the UK Government choose to ignore the facts.

  • @brianbailey4565
    @brianbailey4565 Рік тому +1

    If you seal your house and suffer condensation now the experts suggest positive input ventilation. Basically window with small vents or extract fans. So contrary to sealing up your house totally. It's not black and white it's a compromise, some air flow is important for healthy living. A balanced view is required.

  • @jdickson242
    @jdickson242 Рік тому +4

    Everyone watching this please contact someone that knows what they are doing before sealing up your house. Please remember ventilation is completely separate and should not be sealed. Seal Tight, Insulate and Ventilate Right ! If you mess up any one of those steps you can have problems. If you are in the Southwest UK give BAT Ltd a buzz

    • @oakfieldfarm4131
      @oakfieldfarm4131 Рік тому +5

      IMHO all homes should have MVHR and not rely on holes in the walls for ventilation!

    • @ashleyjohnson1908
      @ashleyjohnson1908 Рік тому +1

      totally agree! general public don't realise that background ventilation is required as part of the building regs for people health, whether that be mechanical or not!! I've been going around drawings adding extra ventilation as the window manufacturers can't get the required ventilation through their window trickles just this week!. Yes MVHR is a great alternative, but as with everything it's down to cost.

    • @xxwookey
      @xxwookey Рік тому

      It's quite difficult to seal the average UK house up enough to give yourself a problem, although it is obviously do-able, especially if you are a 'dry clothes indoors', 'cook with no lids on' sort of family, or have a lot of people in a small house.
      Some sorts of ventilation are just bad though (like trickle vents) and really should be sealed up and replaced with something more efficient/effective like DCV or MVHR.

    • @waqasahmed939
      @waqasahmed939 Рік тому

      @@ashleyjohnson1908 Much much cheaper to do it during the build stage though
      Retrofitting an MVHR is in the pipeline for my house but it's also £10K
      I've currently got 8 solar panels, and plan to get 8 more before I do that

  • @malcolmbennett4325
    @malcolmbennett4325 Рік тому

    I see the front door is used to install the fan, what if the front door is leaky? Is the equipment moved to the back door as part of the procedure to check the front door ?

  • @Paul.Woodcraft
    @Paul.Woodcraft Рік тому +1

    Recall a neighbour being concerned about this over 40 years ago, he used a primitve means to check using a candle to observe air movement.

    • @xxwookey
      @xxwookey Рік тому

      Yeah, a strip of bog-roll on a windy day will also let you find leaks. but it is a lot easier with a fan making a consistent pressure-difference. It's not hard to bodge up your own for hole-finding.

  • @forestblackberry7046
    @forestblackberry7046 Рік тому +3

    Thanks Dean, really interesting, especially about the dot 'n' dab plasterboard. I've sealed all around waste pipes, cables, windows, insulated the loft hatches & installed insulation covers for ceiling lights. amongst other things. Made such a difference; all that's left is to get my son and daughter to stop opening the windows;
    "We're too hot!"
    "That's because you're cuddling a hot-water bottle, wearing pyjamas inside a onesy under a duvet!"

    • @deanfielding4411
      @deanfielding4411 Рік тому +1

      That has genuinely made my day! So pleased for you. Think of all the money you’ve saved and CO2!

    • @rtfazeberdee3519
      @rtfazeberdee3519 Рік тому +2

      You could seal up their door frames once they go in. :)

    • @forestblackberry7046
      @forestblackberry7046 Рік тому

      @@deanfielding4411 I came across this post, which offers an option for the under skirting draughts including those that might come from the dot and dab gaps....
      ua-cam.com/video/V6lZXjRR-1k/v-deo.html
      Where people have laminate or wooden floors & the skirting is already on, do you have any other suggestions as to how they might block gaps in a way that doesn't detract from the visual aspect of the room?

    • @asilver2889
      @asilver2889 Рік тому +1

      Dot n dab should be 'banned'. Only if fully sealed round edges would I accept in any build I control.

    • @asilver2889
      @asilver2889 Рік тому +1

      @@forestblackberry7046 Charlie DIYTE very good, covers condensation and mould problems too. But the expanding tape he uses is pricey (compared to silicone) and comes in black only. Other methods are oakum (string with waxy coating) wood slivers which can be bought (apparently), or acrylic type sealant rather than silicone. If old property use old tech fixes rather than plastic-based.
      Just using foam packer tube may be enough for under the skirtings.

  • @lafamillecarrington
    @lafamillecarrington Рік тому +1

    Interesting, but I know that I have horrible leaks through external air bricks and the suspended floor at the front of my house. I am unsure how to deal with this, and until I do, it doesn't seem worth having air tightness testing done.

  • @christopherwright1795
    @christopherwright1795 Рік тому +1

    I’d love to have this done , although if it’s just you’re front door that’s leaky lol one issue dot and dab plaster board is a nightmare for draughts is it’s definitely the issue on my house , it bypasses all the insulation and you live in a plasterboard tent lol

    • @salibaba
      @salibaba Рік тому

      If that’s the case, the front door is the first big thing to start with. Job done. I’ll take my consultation fee now 😂😂

  • @johntisbury
    @johntisbury Рік тому

    Question, how do you test the effectiveness of the front door with the device fitted in place of it? Great idea and a must for all properties.

    • @salibaba
      @salibaba Рік тому +1

      I wouldn’t be worried, isn’t your front door brand new?

    • @johntisbury
      @johntisbury Рік тому +1

      @@salibaba it is indeed. It wasn’t a concern for me, just a general observation.

    • @xxwookey
      @xxwookey Рік тому +1

      Put the fan in another door or a window.

  • @matthewleitch1
    @matthewleitch1 Рік тому

    Have they done a video on installing mechanical ventilation with heat recovery?

  • @CED99
    @CED99 Рік тому +1

    Nice tech. You could use an IR camera to see the cooling effect of the air being drawn in, too.
    Edit: Yes, they do that too

    • @deanfielding4411
      @deanfielding4411 Рік тому

      Indeed it works well 😊 if you look closely the cold bits in the windows were where the rubber seals had shrunken and air was actually leaking around the glass.

  • @Verminskyi
    @Verminskyi Рік тому

    My big issues I think are my extractor fan in the bathroom and the kitchen hood which the neighbour replaced our cowl for a chimney which just draws air out. These tests sound like they'd skip that. I've tried flappy paddles in the bathroom with little success.
    Anyone have any advice on extractor hoods being sealed until needed?

    • @waqasahmed939
      @waqasahmed939 Рік тому

      I don't however I know the people at the "buildhub" forums might be able to help you there?
      I too would like to know the answer to that

  • @G0ogs
    @G0ogs Рік тому +2

    They really should include heat exchange ventilation systems into new build houses as a standard, it really would make a big differtence.

    • @mralistair737
      @mralistair737 Рік тому +1

      A lot of them do nowadays. depending on their strategy. it's much easier to do in a new-build.

  • @Umski
    @Umski Рік тому +4

    Been wanting to have this done since I saw and read it in It’s Not Easy Being Green - I always thought the cost of doing it would be prohibitive - house built in 2002 but not a single gap filled between floors and walls - slowly filling gaps when I find them through cold draughts 😬 Typical builders 🙄

    • @waqasahmed939
      @waqasahmed939 Рік тому +2

      I had this done before the video. My own results are 7.66 which is acceptable by the standards of government, for a 1975 house
      But it isn't acceptable for me. I will now seal up all areas where I can. I intend on getting an MVHR too

    • @Umski
      @Umski Рік тому

      @@waqasahmed939 how much was the test out of curiosity?

  • @shawnpeterson9953
    @shawnpeterson9953 Рік тому

    I've asked 2 contractors in my area to perform this test and they flat-out refuse in MA & NH USA.

    • @markcayer4859
      @markcayer4859 Рік тому +1

      Sounds like a business opportunity for someone doesn't it??

  • @richardgoldsmith7278
    @richardgoldsmith7278 Рік тому +5

    I bet this test would reveal where all those spiders are getting in as well!

    • @deanfielding4411
      @deanfielding4411 Рік тому

      Not thought of that one! Brilliant

    • @mralistair737
      @mralistair737 Рік тому

      They are coming from inside the house

    • @koitorob
      @koitorob Рік тому

      The big black ones don't 'come in' from anywhere. They are house spiders that you live with. It always makes me chuckle when people say they don't like to kill them so they catch them and take them outside, TO THEIR DEATH!

  • @mikejf4377
    @mikejf4377 Рік тому

    Did you post what this cost to have done.

  • @commiepinko6
    @commiepinko6 Рік тому +1

    anyone recommend a decent company that would do this on a domestic property in the Glasgow are? thanks

    • @deanfielding4411
      @deanfielding4411 Рік тому

      There should be a link on the description to find a list of national testers at ATTMA and Elmhurst.

  • @vxlgsi
    @vxlgsi Рік тому

    My house is 0.68 on air tightness but for houses like this you need an hvac system to change the air for fresh and remove moisture.

  • @jimdunleavypiano
    @jimdunleavypiano Рік тому +2

    I'd be really interested in having this done, but I've checked out the links for contractors who do this and they all seem to be geared towards commercial operations for 'type-testing' of new buildings. There's also no indication anywhere of a ballpark price for existing domestic properties for the homeowner.

    • @deanfielding4411
      @deanfielding4411 Рік тому +2

      Ball park around £400 ish.

    • @jimdunleavypiano
      @jimdunleavypiano Рік тому

      @@deanfielding4411 Thanks Dean.

    • @ianlighting100
      @ianlighting100 Рік тому +1

      I paid £250 +vat in 2019. Didn’t have any trouble finding one at the time that wasn’t far from me.

  • @kevinmatthews2620
    @kevinmatthews2620 Рік тому

    just paused the video and checked on both ATTMA & Elmhurst websites for a tester near me in Cumbria, no ATTMA testers @ all, and Elmhurst when putting my postcode gives a load of Edinburgh testers (by the company names) and a long list of tester all with phone numbers but with no location of testers ??? have a word will you Bobby especially Elmhurst

  • @oakfieldfarm4131
    @oakfieldfarm4131 Рік тому +1

    I was quite surprised how bad the figures for UK housing stock are.
    We recently built our own Passivhaus and had to get below 0.6. However, as we’d never done anything like that before we were a bit over cautious and actually achieved 0.06!
    Whilst testing we accidentally left a 2” waste pipe uncapped which had a howling gale blowing through it - you could hear it from the next room - but even with that open we were only around 0.2.
    A score of 5 must be the equivalent of having a window open, 10 a door open and 15 a whole section of wall missing! 😳

    • @asilver2889
      @asilver2889 Рік тому +1

      It is said that most houses do have equivalent of a 300 X 300 opening when all gaps added up. Passivhaus total gap about egg size.

    • @edc1569
      @edc1569 Рік тому

      my goodness must of smelt awful!

  • @markcayer4859
    @markcayer4859 Рік тому

    I noticed what looked like a smartphone acting as an infra red camera in the video.
    Is that a thing like "there's an app for that" or was it a specialized dedicated device that costs X ??

    • @spiersaj
      @spiersaj Рік тому +1

      Specialised hardware required I'm afraid. Search for FLIR for one particular brand. They start about £200

  • @andrewtaylor7377
    @andrewtaylor7377 Рік тому +1

    😲20% saving on average... this should be provided FOC to elderly and vulnerable immediately. It would pay for itself pretty quick by not forking out for energy help payments and increased pension/benefits to compensate for the increase in energy costs.

    • @deanfielding4411
      @deanfielding4411 Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/AITS-rh9S0Y/v-deo.html In this extended version I explain why its important we try to get the test to chance as existing house EPCs don't cover this yet.

  • @jeremy1548
    @jeremy1548 Рік тому

    In the UK, FENSA who accredit all new window and door installations will refuse a certificate to any new window that does not have a trickle vent fitted. Appreciate that this is in the category of controlled ventilation but when these vents fail and disintegrate which they do after 15 years or so it rapidly becomes uncontrolled - would be good to have an episode looking at trickle vent repairs and which windows can safely have trickle vents sealed up. In my experience bathrooms and bedrooms need them but no other room does. Interested in your thoughts.

    • @Jaaammmbbbooo
      @Jaaammmbbbooo Рік тому +1

      I fitted my windows myself on all our back windows. I only got trickle vents in the utility and bathroom. All the other rooms have fireplaces which are blocked with an air vent in to allow ventilation.

  • @adsheff
    @adsheff Рік тому

    Worth noting for people with older houses - especially those built with fireplaces - having it airtight is not a good thing. If there are no draughts in solid walled old houses, you will get condensation issues. Also, if you have wood burners, open fires or Agas the room that is in should not be airtight - the fire needs an air source to keep going!

  • @TonyJewell0
    @TonyJewell0 Рік тому

    When we built our house every room had to have a vent through the well insulated wall to the outside to satisfy building regs. It's proven to be very wasteful. I think if we were building now we would go for a passive house with controlled ventilation.

  • @davidmay268
    @davidmay268 Рік тому +2

    Had a surprise when we did ours, we got 0.3. This is a victorian semi

    • @davidmay268
      @davidmay268 Рік тому +2

      Unfortunately, the damp and air quality issues from this lack of airflow meant a very expensive ventilation install, but now it's done we don't regret it. It's like a different house.

    • @xxwookey
      @xxwookey Рік тому

      That's very impressive - had the previous owners been airtightness obsessives?

  • @zapfanzapfan
    @zapfanzapfan Рік тому +5

    Can we see a before and after test like this on Bobby's house?

    • @830118
      @830118 Рік тому +1

      I was just about to suggest that.

    • @markthomasson5077
      @markthomasson5077 Рік тому +1

      Sure you will find plenty on UA-cam

    • @salibaba
      @salibaba Рік тому

      Bobby can’t not now, he’s seen the green stuff and wants a bit 😂😂😂😂
      Those French doors will be a massive leak.

  • @IDann1
    @IDann1 Рік тому

    Only had the Elmhirst program ( for EPC’s ) in the office for one week and we’ve broken it already…🧐

  • @davidw717
    @davidw717 Рік тому

    Is this the same as a Heat Loss Calculation Test? I can't seem to find a definitive answer.

  • @hughrattray9354
    @hughrattray9354 Рік тому

    What are the units on the score?

  • @kevinmatthews2620
    @kevinmatthews2620 Рік тому

    a second comment Bobby to achieve Passiv Haus in the UK you have to be below 1.0 air changes per hour ,a build was featured on grand designs about 5 years ago in the Outer Hebrides, first house that builder built to them standards 0.6 as my memory serves me

  • @0princeluck
    @0princeluck Рік тому

    Just run the extractor fan and check around.

  • @daler2577
    @daler2577 Рік тому

    How do they get around 100% passive house if you need a certain amount of ventilation?

    • @ianlighting100
      @ianlighting100 Рік тому +2

      MVHR. Google it for info. We decided against it because we’re in and out of the house so often it didn’t make sense for us,

    • @swaqvalley
      @swaqvalley Рік тому +2

      They briefly mentioned it in the video, but it's with something like energy recovery ventilation (ERV)

    • @xxwookey
      @xxwookey Рік тому

      @@swaqvalley MVHR: Mechanical Ventilation and Heat Recovery. Here's mine: ua-cam.com/video/OVcvk9Wnyw4/v-deo.html

    • @koitorob
      @koitorob Рік тому +1

      This test is for fixing 'leaks'. You should have trickle vents in your windows for ventilation, or just crack one open.

  • @Jimages_uk
    @Jimages_uk Рік тому

    So, should I block off most, or all of the air bricks I have?

    • @mralistair737
      @mralistair737 Рік тому +1

      Not if they are venting the space under your house. but you should make sure the floors / skirtings are sealed so air isn't leaking out that way. (and if you can insulate the floor) for air bricks into your rooms, if they aren't serving an open gas appliance, block them off and use closable trickle vents instead.

    • @Jimages_uk
      @Jimages_uk Рік тому

      @@mralistair737 Thanks, every room in my house has a vent near the ceiling, and only one room has a gas fire (which is only ever turned on for servicing)

  • @rymoe6299
    @rymoe6299 Рік тому +1

    I’ve done every recommendation on my EPC and still only got a B rating. Solid wall semi 94sq m. Triple Glazzed, external wall insulation, composite door, loft insulation, new heating system (gas) PV and storage. I’ve seen EPC scores on Band A with far less energy improvements! Would this test improve my EPC????? My plan was for ASHP but the EPC guy said that would deduct points 🥴🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @mralistair737
      @mralistair737 Рік тому +1

      it would save you energy but possibly not change your EPC, as they wont know you've done the work.. The EPC is a very blunt instrument and not really all that useful for planning works, (and sometimes makes odd decisions like the ASHP example) the number you should be worried about is the one at the bottom of your gas bill, that's the real measure of efficiency.

    • @rymoe6299
      @rymoe6299 Рік тому

      @@mralistair737 gas bill with heating on 24hr is £1.40 a day there abouts
      18c for 12hr 21 for 12hr
      I actually consumer more electricity than gas! But I’ve got all the radiators to work on a future heat pump requirement of 50c flow temp.
      For me the EPC are hit and miss and often incorrect as my neighbours states it has cavity wall insulation when in fact it has solid wall

    • @asilver2889
      @asilver2889 Рік тому

      @@mralistair737 It's going to matter for landlords, who will have to get to C soon. Expect reduced number of rentals available.
      EPC really not fit for purpose.

  • @alanrickett2537
    @alanrickett2537 Рік тому +1

    How is this any better than turning the heating up high on a cold day and walking round inside and out with an infrared camera, and after you have finished you have a nice new infrared camera probably for less money. And a detailed view of both leaks and where your insulation is failing instead of just leaks.

    • @xxwookey
      @xxwookey Рік тому +2

      It's different. You can find leaks with a thermal camera. It works well around windows/frames and for big leaks like a pipe-entry, but there are a lot of air holes it's easier to find the wind blowing through, like mains sockets/light switches, cracks in plaster, gaps around skirtings/boards/joists/lights. You can do this with a car radiator fan fro the scrappy for £10 and an OSB offcut so you don't have to spend £300 unless you want a calibrated airtightness figure.

    • @mralistair737
      @mralistair737 Рік тому

      That will pick up warm areas, but it wouldn't pick up things like the loft hatch. where the warm air goes into the attic, an then bleeds out through all the slates. or if it did you wouldn't know if it was your loft hatch or the ceiling lights.

  • @ralphzimmermann
    @ralphzimmermann Рік тому +1

    we have a wood burning stove with a chimney, this might be an issue :D
    But fantastic timing for this video given energy costs at the moment. I have done a few of these steps this last summer and I can already tell the difference.

    • @xxwookey
      @xxwookey Рік тому +1

      They will normally seal big holes like chimneys up for the test in order to find the holes you _didn't_ know about. Also one can get a room-sealed woodburner so that the house becomes a toroid and the woodburner takes its air from outside. This is the only way to keep a woodburner is a really well-sealed house.

    • @ralphzimmermann
      @ralphzimmermann Рік тому

      @@xxwookey ah good to know :)

  • @suchdevelopments
    @suchdevelopments Рік тому

    Robert, how are you this sunny morning in Goonellabah on North Coast NSW?
    1. 250 prefabricated SIPform passive house-certified homes. On the roofs of buildings, the Tractile, the excess electricity will be stored in the 28.8MW Tesla Batteries Farm.
    2. The PV in total 934,370m2 - Tractile tiles 45,000m2 and Arctech Solar Tracking - Tesla PV panel 887,400m2
    The Team and I have a minimum of 250 passive houses that would Air Tightness Test.
    Each house will have Brink Renovent 300 HRV unit - Ducting is Air Excellent anti-static and antibacterial 75mm or similar sized to suit each individual home.

  • @james123j1
    @james123j1 Рік тому +4

    How much does a test like this typically cost?

  • @80y3r9
    @80y3r9 Рік тому

    Any recommendations of suppliers, those links were pants

  • @rp9674
    @rp9674 Рік тому +2

    Skirting board = baseboard molding?

  • @freethinker4991
    @freethinker4991 Рік тому

    Is it worth doing the test on a house in a hot country that cool's the house?

    • @xxwookey
      @xxwookey Рік тому

      Yes. Energy loss is through cooled air escaping rather than heated air escaping. Exactly the same issue.

  • @TobiasHunt
    @TobiasHunt 8 місяців тому

    So... How much does it cost to run these tests?

  • @andybrice2711
    @andybrice2711 Рік тому +1

    I'm not sure about this idea yet. Air-tightness is probably great when combined with a good ventilation system. But if you make a house airtight, it seems to me that it quickly fills with stale, damp air. Then you have to keep windows slightly open. Which defeats the purpose of making it airtight.

    • @Boz1211111
      @Boz1211111 Рік тому

      Exactly true

    • @finntruder2084
      @finntruder2084 Рік тому +1

      You are supposed to have climate control and have active intake and removal of air. Not stale, but exactly how you like it. Our machine follows moisture level and co2 in air and will boost the rpm if either exceeds user input values.

  • @pauladams1829
    @pauladams1829 Рік тому +6

    Home owners and Landlords should be made to do the test and fix leaks.

    • @TheGramophoneGirl
      @TheGramophoneGirl Рік тому +6

      Absolutely. They should do this to the poorest households who also have absolutely no control over fixing the problems to their home.

    • @deanfielding4411
      @deanfielding4411 Рік тому +2

      Definitely, this is one of the main motivations for this video. Please share and ask you MP.
      The testing system for EPCs needs changing as the government doesn’t take into account the air permeability score on existing housing stock when calculating EPCs so no landlords, councils or housing associations can justify doing this as they can’t show an improvement because the EPC system doesn’t let them! It neeeds to change urgently!

    • @manikdesign
      @manikdesign Рік тому +2

      They should first do it to all council houses, some of my friends live in social housing and it is the worst living conditions imaginable.

  • @craigr306
    @craigr306 Рік тому

    so how do
    you breath

  • @davebarton9301
    @davebarton9301 Рік тому

    Every new house should have a heat exchanger, contrary to what Dean said about it taking a huge amount of energy to heat all the air in your house, which actually is untrue as air is one of the most efficient things to heat(this is not to say i don't think what he is doing is great and should be applied to all houses as part of an EPC), it's the thermal mass that takes the most energy to heat, hence why its so important to have a heat exchanger as you can relatively cheaply bring fresh air into your property whilst heating it with minimal energy outlay.

  • @bobbysilver272
    @bobbysilver272 Рік тому

    Sounds like a recipe for excess condensation and moisture build up inside.

  • @jamesgrover2005
    @jamesgrover2005 Рік тому +1

    I gather the cat flap is a problem.. solutions?

    • @alexclifford8961
      @alexclifford8961 Рік тому +1

      Dog

    • @ianlighting100
      @ianlighting100 Рік тому +3

      You’re correct. In our case we have an inner and outside door and the utility room between acts as a kind of air lock section to limit the air flow. But both flaps have a magnetic edge to make sure they stay shut when there’s no moggy going through.
      No house is perfect, and this is our compromise and at least we know exactly where the hole is.

    • @jamesgrover2005
      @jamesgrover2005 Рік тому

      @@ianlighting100 I built a double cat flap entrance with a short tunnel between 😂 slightly excessive but there you go..
      Dogs are way too much work.

  • @jneale7715
    @jneale7715 Рік тому

    Great except new building regs make you put vents in every window!

  • @zeppelinshy
    @zeppelinshy Рік тому

    If its not done properly with controlled ventilation. I can almost feel the mould after seeing that loft hatch becoming a major problem. Its not just about sealing all the holes like this video seems to be saying more than anything else

  • @richardgoldsmith7278
    @richardgoldsmith7278 Рік тому +4

    Without a heat exchanger ventilation system, I rely on a certain level of leakiness for healthy ventilation. At least my heating is 100% renewably powered so its still really cheap.

  • @jsptravels
    @jsptravels Рік тому

    Surely this isn’t great for things like condensation, aren’t we always told there should be airflow through a house to help keep it dry and remove stale air .. ?

    • @jsptravels
      @jsptravels Рік тому

      Got to that part of the video ..