Ahh Thanks TVL….. oh Wait
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Ooo I got a Christmas letter from tv licensing, let’s have a look at this piece of rubbish together shall we
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Not watching live television is a bit like stopping eating chocolate. After a while you don't miss it. 30 years and counting so far.
Nowadays it's like not eating 💩's you certainly won't miss it!
Same here. I’m unable to cope with TV at all as I am autistic. I have to be very selective about what I watch so I don’t own a TV. I watch instructional videos on UA-cam for my hobbies but I don’t watch anything live. I get letters from TVL that are disturbing. I peep in the envelope to see their logo. If see it I just bin it without reading it. I live alone so I only answer the door if I know who it is and I am expecting them.
@@Rbourk252
Look for the Darlington return post code so you don't have to look inside before you bin it! 😊.
beat me by 5 years.
Chocolate is much better than TV.
I'd miss chocolate. Definitely don't miss TV.
I wonder how much TV tax payers monies are wasted on all these letters ?
@@paarker I have watched quite a few of these licencing videos as I have cancelled my DD and expecting these letters at some point so want to have my cards close to my chest, and another channel member said it's 36 million in the last year.
Extortion
The practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.
That red envelope is the TVL equivalent of the M&S car crash advert 😆
I wonder if he shreds it, would it turn into golden garden hitter 😂
I put mine straight in the shredder unopened
The BBC are not doing their 'carbon foot print' much good with these letters that cannot be recycled ! Haha
Why can't you recycle them? Are they not printed on regular paper? Just cross shred them.
They are recyclable!
Recycle instructions:-
1. Do not open.
2. Obliterate address to ensure it don't come back to you.
3. Print the return address on the front.
4. Place in post box.
Viola! It now has a second use and hence recycled. Lol
The idiot postman left the Capita letter hanging out my letterbox and made my hallway freezing 🥶 should demand money for heating lost urrrh 😡
@@derthephoto2882 Would be better if they printed the letter on soft paper, so it could be useful without processing. As it is you risk getting arse nick poisoning by recycling them.
I don’t even open mine, they go straight into the shredder.
I received one of those letter's on Saturday. Scott Robson certainly gets about he's apparently in charge of the Maidstone office and Cambridge and many other area's. He's either a very busy person or he's not real. 😂
It strikes me that the errr 'system' is getting more authoritarian. The vast majority of the public - knowing very little as to what can be done or not done in law - could easily be hoodwinked into believing that this position by the TV license folk is valid & fall into line regardless - sadly this is how this system rolls 😮
Once people understand that the law was created by the very same enemies, they might finally understand that we can never win as long as we play their game by their rules. It is rigged for us to lose, so if we want to win we have to take matters in to our own hands and not rely on the corrupt systems.
There’s another name for the law.
I had exactly this conversation with colleague today - he was under the impression watch TV= licence required. Then he said we was worried about inspection visits.
I said you only need it for iPlayer and live TV.
He does like iPlayer so I think he benefits from it.
This conversation was prompted after we were recalling TV theme tunes - EastEnders, Coronation Street, Emmerdale etc - I was reminded of your video highlighting how much money BBC spent on the new EastEnders set, considering the low and falling viewing figures.
Change that 'could to 'are'.
It is always important to think for yourself, do your own research and always be sceptical.
Disconnect your coax from the socket. Stage one... as in take unscrew and take the wires out. Then don't have a lead going to the dead socket. Finally, shred the letter! Take a deep breath and relax...🤗
I've just got one of those. There were two options , Pay or tell us you don't need one. If you ignore this we'll send the boys round, or tell us that you don't need one, but we will still send the boys round to check. Looking forward to the visit, it ends with "Close the gate behind you on your way out" . Can't possibly say what it begins with. I will watch the video now.
I got one of those lovely envelopes last week,did not even bothering to open it as it's pretty obvious where it came from,so just put it through paper shredder to add to all other junk mail and have taken it to my parents who then turn it all into bricks with sawdust for there coal fire 😂😂😂
Wait... So Amazon prime will get you in trouble, or just if you watch BBC through Prime? If it is the second, you might be able to force Amazon to block those services from your account based on requiring additional fees, they could be legally putting you in trouble. Or you might be able to get a court to rule that since you are paying a fee to Amazon that grants you a license to watch videos, that you have indeed paid for a tv license while using Prime. I think this might be worth digging a little deeper if you haven't already run down this rabbit hole.
Noticed on the radio they are doing propaganda adverts about getting a license .You are probably under investigation for being on social media telling people to cancel ,and what your rights are
I'm 84 year old man served 7 years in the armed forces and have to wear an overcoat to keep warm around the house because of the cost of the heating so BBC do you really think that i give a flying F about your TV license. I've just received number 31 threatening letter's and i don't even open them anymore they go straight into the rubbish bin Send your bully boys round I've got an answer for them
I must be a lucky one 10 years with out one and never had a letter
Well done grey man, say no more.
i find it funny how they cover ALL live tv channels.. it should only be a live BBC channel... do they send ie Sky 1 any of the TV licence money to them as TVL say you cant watch that without a TVL? even tho SKY 1 is a commercial promotion channel?
Agreed, its mad how they get away with it, and very mad that the other channels are saying this
@@ChilliJonCarne should start one of them petitions for parliament to talk about how TVL word these letters also if you have Sky TV you should get the option to turn off the BBC channels if you dont have a TVL. You pay sky to watch their channels and if the BBC dont send them any licence fee they should turn off the BBC options
@@ChilliJonCarneif it’s the end of the investigation when you shut the door on them, how and why do the police end up accompanying them? This is the bit that confuses me.
Got one of those letters! They now have an extra 400,000 addresses to investigate!
I recieved a hand delivered threatening letter today but the bugger didn't even knock he just posted and walked off and it didn't even have the right postcode so that's their investigation getting off to a great start...🎉
Coincidentally, I also got what I thought was an early Xmas card a few days ago, but no, it was one of these scummy letters from TVL. This is my 4th red letter from them this year. Still never had a visit, even though I've been told to expect a visit on a certain date twice now. I do play a straight game though, so these letters don't bother me in the slightest.
look how much they have had to concede though! no more lies about youtube etc..
I have had one a month for 30 years almost. I call them my 'love letters!'
Someone called L. O'Ccupier has been receiving these for years. Handy to get my log burner going.
i ve never had a visit or any red letters
Had plenty of these red envelopes, just goes straight in the bin.
Im sick of getting these junkmail, i even had one that was just a copy of the first one i had when i moved in, and i continued to get one once a month.
I have not paid tv license for nearly 3 yrs now. Not that i watch live tv anymore the amount of letters and threats of investigations i have had is unreal with not one visit so far. i have been hoping for a visit for their so called investigation just so i can say no thanks and shut the door in their face. but no such luck yet lol😂😂
You plan on filming the tv licencing inspector when they knock your door?
I would not say MATE , just a no thanks
I wouldn’t even say “thanks”………just short sharp “nope”.
@@nononsense3528 I wouldn't even say 'nope'.
@@MikeEves , on reflection, your response seems like the best 👍🏻
I got this red letter a few weeks ago and haven't even bothered to open it, I can't even remember the last time I opened a letter from them
About time more people stuck up to these cruel bastards.
theres no law that says they have no option but to investigate you no matter what they "believe"...please show us the law bbc where that is laid down
They can investigate, send a 'detector van' to sit outside and 'detect' your tv use. Watching your screen for hours or days at a time hoping to catch some licence requiring use. Ok that is not possible in reality. But just imagine the costs of doing it. Wages of the operative alone would be more than a licence, let alone the vehicle and equipment.
I save all my junk mail shred it and send it to them with no stamp. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Had one . Wrote . Don't need your Crap fo. Been year now nothing
Early for a Christmas card? How about this - The Range started selling the usual Christmas trash on August 1st this year! Madness...
Got one yesterday Jon.🏴🇬🇧
yeh got one of those i dont mind i use it to light my fire
The fact that these threatening letters never have the actual name of the, 'legal occupier', on them means that these so-called investigations mean absolutely nothing. When they can't even name the person they're supposedly investigating, and instead rely entirely upon the address that may or may not be using equipment capable of receiving live television broadcasts that is unlicenced. Something that they can't determine without the admission of those living there, or are witness to it by having gained entry to the premises. Something they can't justify doing on an assumption.
An address being licence free doesn't equate to an illegal act any more than someone who's got a fishing rod at home in a cupboard is guilty of fishing without a licence. It's only if they admit to using it or are witnessed using it can they be prosecuted. The same goes with any equipment in a house that's capable of receiving live television broadcasts. Just because it can, doesn't necessarily mean it is. That's why they resort to all these threatening letters, to try and put the wind up people who, 'don't want to get into trouble', and end up paying for something they don't use, just to be on the safe side and to stop all the harassing letters plopping through their letter boxes. Gone are the days of requiring a licence to use a television, by default, and it's obviously something that grates on them tremendously. They're nothing short of con artists squeezing money out of vulnerable people, or those ignorant of their rights as a, 'legal occupier', who may own equipment capable of receiving live television broadcasts.
Had this one two days ago...😂
I wouldn't have opened it just gone straight in the bin like the rest of the junk mail
Better to shred it than put your address info in the bin 👍
I have been investigated for the last 6 years, so funny, I have a laugh every time a letter comes, an officer has been coming to see me for the last 3 years, so sad I have not been able to shut the door in their face.
thanks for the video. There's something weird about your noise gate settings causing a bit of an abrupt cutoff, you probably need to increase the release/hold times or lower the thresholds
Oh how many of those red emvelopes I've received, went straight to the bin without opening it...
dont bother opening them, do what i do and stack them near the front door.
i went through all the measures with the bbc to cancel licence requirement and never looked back.
the letters still keep coming anyway but nothing ever happens.
its just a toothless threat.
25 years and counting
My
To the legal occupier letters
Get return to sender wrote on them and posted back
I now have started to get less n less of them 😆 🤣
The all 4 app is now called channel 4 app
That's better CJ, I'm starting to enjoy it again, this is more like the old CJ vid's
As I frequenty comment, I throw these letters in the bin unopened. Various attempts over the past 20+ years to tell TV Licensing that I do not have a TV has not stopped these threatening letters.
Nor will they stop.
every time i get a letter it says to the occupier.i wright on it not at this address and pop it back in the post box , my name is not occupier so its not my post
What is the rule on watching +1 channels? By definition they are not live.
They’re getting desperate! You don’t have a Firearms certificate, this is worse, you don’t have a TV Licence you could be on the terrorism list .
amazon prime now offer live football games would that come under the tv licence?
Had exactly the same one yesterday but please dont worry, I do recycle.
Hi Chilli, just stopped paying for my licence as i dont watch live telly, are there any videos on what tests are conducted when they serve a warrant//Thanks Chris
I had several letters, then the goon showed up, did exactly as told here, said no thanks and closed the door. Now, I've received another letter exactly like this. So, I did my due dilligence, and filed this letter under B for Bin! It's their tine and resources they are wasting by showing up, and as far as the wording in the top box is concerned, I'm pretty sure there is an issue with legality, even if it is a grey area.
What about a computer monitor, would they still pass that on like a TV, I know the last monitor I bought was second hand in about 2009 and I'm still using today. But nothing last forever.
Chilli, just wondering how much Capita spend on printing and postage each year on these letters?
Just had a letter fromTV Licensing saying "Its time to check " my 2 years no licence declaration is up after 2 years . i had no visits and no threat letters in the lat 2 years so ive just told them again i dont need a Licence , this is about the 4th time ive declared No licence need .and never had a visit or threat letters . im out in the Sticks so i doubt the;ld bother with me . i think its up to you what you do ; if i get a visit anyway .no thanks i'll just close my door thanks
Can I “watch” a live broadcast using a dish and Freesat of a Radio station? eg Freesat channel 700 = Radio 1
WHY DO YOU PAY DOUBLE WHEN USING DIRECT DEBIT TO PAY THEM,MY CAR INSURANCE,AND ROAD TAX DON'T DO THAT, INFACT I DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT CHARGES DOUBLE FOR DD,, MAYBE SOMEONE CAN TELL ME,,WHY ARE THEY GETTING AWAY WITH IT, THANK YOU, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK 😅
So Betamax is fine? If not, what about Video 2000?
*Hi I don't know if its me being a little think 😂 but what has any other channel got to do with the BBC, if its a BBC channel you are watching then I can understand why they keep forcing a licence down your throat (BUT IT SHOULD BE A SUBSCRIPTION IF YOU WANT IT YOU PAY FOR IT IF YOU DON'T THEN YOU DON'T PAY LIKE EVRYTHING ELSE) but what has ITV, CHANNEL 4, 5, etc etc basically any other channel that is not BBC got to do with the BBC if its live or not, If I wanted to watch I'm a Celebrity live on ITV @ 9pm which is broadcast by ITV , WTF has that got to do with the BBC*
*I don't get it, please do a video explaining why this is the case*
i havent paid it in 6 yr
😂 got one of those yesterday.
If only they would send these letters on toilet paper they would at least have a use.
I have not paid for a year and a half and haven't had a letter or visit. I am feeling left out. I want a visit so I can wink at them, close the door on them with a big grin on my face
I moved into my new house just over a year ago and have had a visit and several letters. I cancelled the DD from my previous address which is just over the wall. They are sending letters there too. It’s unoccupied now so good luck there. But it’s legal
Occupier here too. The goon got told to do one. He’ll be back at some point but the ring doorbell is a super job!!
I got one, laughed and put it in the bin and was not impressed or intimidated.
Just wish they would stop but they are morons.
This mite sound stupid, but im an aussie. What is a tv license? Is it like a car license?
Hello “ChilliJ” There is a very interesting full page (page 14) item about “the BBC being a threat to all our nation’s local newspapers” in the Oxford Mail -Tuesday 5th December 2023 (my local newspaper).
I have not watched any “TV” (as described under the 2003 Telecomms Act), not even “on demand” for about 6 years because my TV suffered a terminal fault. I did the online No licence required. I don’t miss it - I’ve moved on. After just one year I started getting the monthly TVL threats which don’t work if you don’t open the letters, in my case they are irrelevant. I have collected quite a few letters over time and one visit which lasted just seconds. I like your comment about the VHS recorder, I have one which I haven’t used for years so the belts my have failed. Yes, I still have VHS tapes, the all box sets of Buffy (the goon slayer) - stop laughing. Oh and it has an analogue tuner. The Oxford transmitter ceased analogue transmissions in 2011. Not even the clock/timer works as it used Ceefax. Evader - I haven’t bought a train ticket for over a year, am I a fare evader? No because I haven’t used a train, during that period, I can’t remember the last time I did.
Keep up the good work. Best wishes from somewhere in Oxfordshire
Keep spreading the word. Too many people pay the license fee that don't need it.
Time for a VAR system to look at this foul play.
My dear old Dad died a few years ago, and we are selling his flat. When going through his post, threatening letters from the TV licence goons outnumber all the other post by 10 to 1. They must have acknowledged his death, as the letters are addressed to the legal occupier. I could tell them, but why should I? Hope the enforcement officer, Scott Robson, is enjoying his 130 mile round trip from Guildford to my Dad's flat every couple of months, for no reason!
He won't care it's a day out for them
Everyone should send their threatening and harassing letters back to them in bulk.
Im a fan of that approach, a policy of non cooperation.
Send them all back in an envelope big enough for a postbox with no postage paid, if they want to receive them they will have to pay the charge.
If we do that, we will probably be arrested for malicious communications.
i send it back
@@EgoChip I'd love to see that stand up in court lol.
@@pjcnet You can beat the wrap, but you can't beat the ride.
My in-laws who are 82 can have a free licence but still pay as they are scared they will get prosecuted. It puts fears in some people.
I think that was changed, it's not free anymore, though it was 75 and over, they stopped it 🙃😷🤔
Fight for your in-laws! You know what to do. Let them rest easy and save money into the bargain.
TV licence is free to over 75's if you are on benefits.
It's free anyway just keep the door shut!😂
Oh dear oh dear
I've been told, the best policy is not to open the door to them. That way there is no proof of them ever finding out.
Yep, I never did the census either. I ignored them, and they walked off never to be seen again.
Exactly. You have a passive receiver. So all those “Detectors vans” can’t work.
In the military we went on radio silence, meaning we were just listening (you needed to know when radio silence was lifted). The reason for going silent was to eliminate detection.
The majority of those they prosecute are women. Most of those are single and/or foreign born (poor English). Most of them are poor. Virtually all of them implicated (criminalized and fined) due to being coereced to sign a statement indicating they have broken the law by watching or recording etc live TV.
If your worried about them ' finding out ' your watching tv
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YOU are the problem and why tv lisence goons exist 🤷♂️🤦♂️
My policy is "noise cancelling headphones" (while listening to BBC Sounds).
Ive had more investigations from TV license opened on me than ive had sunday dinners 😂
and I bet bet they still dont know your name going by the the letter headings !!
Snap
Me too, I've got more open investigations into me and my flat than a terrorist cell lol
"If my mum burns my steak, I can interview her under caution"....that has got to be quote of the year, brilliant :-)
But did she make him a new steak dinner ?
@@tonywright8294 Black belt barrister would advise her not to as this would imply guilt :-)
@blackbeltbarrister what do you think @03:07
This smacks of utter desperation from the BBC 😆
They've just cut newsnight because they've found they have to make 500 million in cuts, I wonder why?
When I complained to my MP for Bourne and Stamford about all and sundry knowing that I didn't have a TV licence he wrote back to say that I should buy one. Even though I had explained why I have not needed one for about 11 years. Never voted for him again due to this and the fact that he is next to useless.
Labour?
@@Delboy591 No, amazingly Conservative.
I suppose that it does not apply to squatters as they are not the legal occupiers!
Or in the ghettos of Bradford. Can`t see the TVLA salesmen having the nerve to go in there...
@@clemobenoit5813 Yes, a very good point you make! I imagine Aspire don't advocate spending £159 on a telly licence, or a telly for that matter!
South Armagh in Northern Ireland was an area where they didn’t go either especially during the troubles. Known as “Bandit Country” they strayed into crossmaglen one day and had the van stopped by the locals, told to get out, take off their shoes and walk back to newry. Needless to say they didn’t return to the area😂
Well done and thank you again for what you do in discounting the BBC's propaganda. The dinosaurs brain doesn't know its dead yet.
Festive red .. I had exactly the same 2 days ago.. 😁 Them naughty BBC Elves behaving badly again !
Definitely going on my naughty list..😂
I'm shocked Chilli, I didn't realise it was Christmas.
Having not watched any broadcast TV for years, nor have I purchased a license tax item, I have lost track of the months/years going by. Thanks for letting me know.
Have a great Christmas and keep up the good work.
BTW I'm not religious either, so do I need to buy Jesus based cards as well? I do (through the wife) buy cards with Robins on, which pays for those birds, but don't pay God - as such.
I don't want to fall foul of God so any advice you can give will be gratefully received.
As far as Gary is concerned, I am not paying for his pay rise so hopefully some of my money is paying the Robins to pay for him as well.
I would hate for him to lose his job through lack of funding, after all unlike the Robins he's not earning peanuts.
Absolute legend mate! Glad someone else has the same mindset as myself! Been following your videos for a while and have passed your UA-cam channel onto a fair few mates. A tv license is an absolute con in 2023 (without mentioning the cost of living and even covering bills month to month). I love a good red letter, I implore them to send more and waste more money, ink and paper. My paper shredder seems to love them. The methods the goons use to check are also shady, sly and manipulative. Close the door and ‘na thanks mate’ beforehand. Keep fighting the good fight my friend! The awake majority supports you!
Had one of these today, it went straight into the shredder (without opening) LOL
I've 'been under investigation' for months now but Jane Jeffers must be too busy to bother sending the goon squad around to check.
If Crapita turn up they'll have a job getting through the communal doors before they even get to my front door. I've had a couple of visits but I have followed Jon's advice by opening the window and asking who they are and telling them firmly "No thank you!" and closing the window, watching them walk, crest fallen, to try to find another victim!
Ive been under investigation for 8 years. Will you be in on ****** then they don't turn up 😂😂😂
@@andywrollo2915 Very inconsiderate of them to cancel an appointment without notice.
But don’t stick your head out and have your photo taken. People like that would steal your soul.
Btw What’s the news on the Cpt Toms of stuff the BBC?
Me too, and I got a very similar letter to this, also addressed to the "Legal Occupier". However, one of TVL's ace detectives is going to have to travel 70 miles from Middlesborough to investigate me. The letter went straight in the bin.
Two years on NYE after I cancelled my DD. Refuse to tell them I don’t need one either. Had three letters and binned them all. Only watch streaming services. Don’t miss BBC player at all. And you can be fine without live TV, it’s on catch up. Thanks to this channel. 😊
How much carbon is being wasted on these 😅 maybe BBC Verified LIVE will have a massive verification on it 😂 oh no, it’s not FOI
I use these as a nice Christmas card, telling me how much I'm saving....by not having a TV licence. My message to the BBC: I'll be spending the £159 elsewhere.
IN THE PUB! You can get almost 3 pints with that these days.
@@frankbrodie5168 for me: a boat load of seasoned cherry wood for heating.
It's been about four years now. One actual visit in year one (told him "no thank you" and he went away, and two cards put through door saying that they've visited (about a year in between 'visits'). In the early days I started collecting the letters, but after a pile of about thirty I just chuck them all in the recycling now, half the rain forest already being used for more letters... and more letters.....not very carbon net zero TV Licencing...tut.tut.
I'm surprised the bbc still recognise Christmas.
dont engage with them in any way, bin their letters, dont call them, dont answer the door to them..totally ignore them
Treat the threatograms as if they were the same as received from the various double glazing / insulation floggers.
Oooh am I expecting a big red envelope from Santa 😮
I'm on the naughty list....and I regret nothing.
My Postie couldn't give a flying freddie , he walks round in shorts, socks and trainers in winter, and always had a cigarette hanging out of his mouth. 😅
Everybody...just send 5 unstamped envelopes back to TV licensing at Darlington so they dont feel left out. They send millions of these threatening letters out every day...they must feel so unloved never receiving any back . Be kind this christmas...send them an empty envelope back, and dont forget to forget to put a stamp on it!
Here's all you need to do: Anytime you open a letter, the second you see the "TV Licensing" logo, instantly screw it up and bin it without a second thought, don't read a word of it, and then carry on with your life. If they come to your door either don't answer, or immediately closed the door the second they tell you who they are, and again carry on with your life as if nothing happened. It's as simple as that. Don't give them any of your time or energy
I've got the same letter 😅
The amount of letters I got I could wallpaper my house with then 😆 🤣 😂
I got one if those last Friday. Straight in the shredder. I stopped telling them i don't need a license. Why tf should i tell them i don't watch TV?
'Under investigation'?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ooh I bet you're bricking it!
I don't go on the BBC website and do the 'exemption' thing either and up until about September I used to get a threatening letter every 3 - 4 weeks. I've had a few of those red ones and they looked very nice in my waste paper bin.
Anyway, the BBC has stopped sending me letters and tbh I'm feeling a bit neglected.
I mean...ghosted by the BBC! Who do they think they are? I'm considering writing them a threatening letter to remind them I still exist.