This Heavy Tank Is Hopeless
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
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The British Black Prince used to be one of the best premium heavy tanks in War Thunder. But years have passed, more powerful tanks have been added, and it doesn't quite stack up like it used to.
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This Heavy Tank Is Hopeless
Was pretty disappointed because I remembered liking the Black Prince a lot in the past, but this was very bad no good.
That's just Britain in general man
@@RaiderTango fr
They did buff the mobility recently. So there is that. It went from the slowest tank in the game to one of the slowest...
I think that's just the curse of British tanks, great in memory but just despairful in practice
sturer emil day 62
Bro used the “foreshadow” meme so much he had to switch it up and hit us with the “precognition”
Prophesy
S tier comment
@@helmetguygaming428 comment tierlist when🥶🥶
"Who's idea was it to put a 350 hp engine in a 50 ton tank???"
T95 engineers: profuse sweating
Its called black prince because that's what it looks like after its blown apart
Probably the same guy who put a single Sherman engine in the T95
-Daniel, you're sure the engine will work ?
-Don't work Dick, the Sherman could go up to 55km/h !
-Mhhhhmm.. Okay it trust you..
Results :
14km/h tank 💀
@@UltimEVB realistically, 2 mph
They should've hired the guy who put 5 car engines taped together in a Sherman to come up with an excellent engine design tbh.
@@r1zmyChrysler do be wilding.
More like a stopgap tester
Still Bad but yeah
0 Hellcats were harmed by overpressure during the making of this video.
Overpressure with what HE filler? ☠☠☠
@@Armageddon_71 The 580g TNT equivalent in the HE rounds 🗿🕴🗿
@@DerErsteWilhelm Oh, i thought you meant the rounds he fired. I think he used the HE like once. And the APDS ofcourse does f*ck all.
@@Armageddon_71 Off cause it's low calibre APDS after all. Harsh insult are more effective.
@@DerErsteWilhelm more so that it is early sabot, which has good flat pen, shit angled pen and very shit damage
stuff like the conq sabot also does the same thing, while my beloved l7 sabot has angled pen but lower flat pen and amazing damage
heatfs is more sensitive to calibre
The most annoying part about British infantry tanks is taking about 5 minutes to drive in to combat only to get one shotted because the first shell that hits you somehow hits that one pixel sized weak spot all tanks have somewhere
Or a go-kart with heat smokes you.
@@fridaycaliforniaa236 Turret in ARL-44 😢
@@fridaycaliforniaa236 ah yes feel bad for the autoloader tech tree
that and because a couple of them too high on their tier. like the churchill 1 and 3 can see german long guns, which is not where they should be. those tanks strength is their armour but german long guns just pen straight through it.
As much as I like war thunder in certain areas the BR system is a pile of shite.
Bro ur playing a BRITHISH…INFANTRY TANK
0:40 - the british: is just a infantry support tank, no speed needed
british tank crews: *prefers the cromwel because they want to go fast and furious*
i remember a story on how a pair cromwells litterly jumped over a partly destroyed bridge and flanked a few panthers in the netherlands. so yes... NED FOR SPED
@@nattly6340 it was 3 Cromwells iirc
11:14 That sound fits so well with that massive recoil lmao
Do you know what sound that is? I am searching for it but I have no idea what it is
And it makes me laugh every time 🤣
@@El_Snackman super laser piss
@@justarette133Gwain saga !
The commitment to use one type of ammo while taking 3 different types is quite impressive.
specaly while complaining about the chosen one
That was me everytime playing the cent mk3. Eventually i said fuck it and took off the solid shot.
@@ttonin33 That's because solid shot won't be any better on this. Better get the extra pen of the APDS
He plays every British tank badly on purpose and then complains about them
@@PipMan1101 no its just that his only playstyle is fast flank so he doesnt know what to do in anything else.
My great grandfather was a Churchill tank commander in the Battle of the Falaise Pocket. He has always said the Churchill was his favorite tank he operated
Your mom was my favorite tank I ever operated.
Kidding that's actually pretty cool
A lot of crews loved the Churchill. It was a solid tank for its time. It was also surprisingly adept at climbing. Thing could climb goat paths and get places a tank half its size would have no business going.
@@Mr-Trox Which unfortunately the snail *refuses* to model.
Attempt number 56 at getting Spookston to play any tank with a dozer blade, the catch is, he has to dig in before engaging targets. Movement around the map is allowed, but he has to dig in again before reengaging.
Never give up my guy
He alr is
he acknowledged this earlier with a comment :D he will do it eventually!!
He will never do it, stop it, give up, all hope is lost, he keeps teasing it but we all, deep down, know he will never do it
YES PLS, I MUST SEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spookston: *Says that tank is hopeless*
Also Spookston: *Gets 8 to 10 kills in it*
@@fridaycaliforniaa236 what?
@@fridaycaliforniaa236
*Does bro think spook is cheating?*
This is like those clips of F1 drivers tearing things up in a minivan
British tank design before the end of WW II is a state of mind.
they took 200 detours in design before they came up with absolute perfection (A34 Comet)
@@r1zmy sometimes you just have to throw a lot of shit at the wall until something sticks. especially when you're in the state br*tain was in
@@shronkler1994It didn’t help that a lot of vehicles that were being developed were held back due to production and transportation limitations. Such as the 6 pdr being a pre-war gun which was delayed by the demand for 2 pdrs, or the requirement for all vehicles to be rail transportable.
Britain also had to re-write their armoured doctrine during the war and was trying to develop off of that.
@@r1zmy I guess I'm in the minority who despise it.
@@jordanpeterson2001 the issue wasn't it needing to be rail portable, the issue was the loading gauge of the railway- which frankly stopped up going full stupid (ie T95/Maus/Elephant etc)
11:15 That FV4005 executed that M46
"Haha look at him suffer!!"
Sickos: "Yes...ha ha ha...YES!"
Don’t bully the man, is it going better for you?!
For reference this tank is Hopeless, at the *same* BR is the Centurion Mark 1 which is (still slow) vastly more mobile, and has the *same* effective front armor, and gun, and the side armor is still decent
Pretty sure that BP was cancelled and Centurion was chosen as its next tank IRL
wanna know another tank that is hopeless because spookie won’t play it? the AB-43
spookie pookie??????
💀
@@Troglodyte1 spookie pookie.
Hopeless? It's an avsolute menace lol
@@lucasmoreno2154 no i mean it’s sad that spookie hasn’t played it yet and it’s hopelessly waiting for him to play it.
11:14 FV offcam vaporizing that M46 💀
see him leap backwards with the recoil
Black Prince then: 😎
Black Prince now: you are homeless but got a BP
Any British tank tbh
11:13 "Hello? 911? I just witnessed a murder."
“Who thought a 50 ton tank with 350bhp was a good idea?” Vauxhall motors did, that’s who.
7:56 the only reason British tanks have rifled barrels is so that it works better with HESH
Which unlike war thunder does work irl and anyway the challenger 3 doesn’t have a rifled cannon according to early reports
Hesh is actually pretty decent now. Just need to use it like the Russian HE at top tier
Was so good when it came out, no one knew how to kill it
yup but now even my granny knows how to kill it😂
And it was 5.7 back then
I got penned by a stock T-34-85 through the turret ring once playing it when the turret ring has 200mm+
If i recall correctly the chieftain noted in one of his video's about this tank that this tank was hated by the brits and it could barely even move without breaking the gearbox..
Jesus christ. The amount of times Spookston came across an M18 AND DID NOT LOAD THE HIGH EXPLOSIVE. It's a fucking easy kill.
The dudes braindead when it comes to HE. He always brings it, never used it.
half the time he was engaging other, more armoured targets at the same time -- seems like not a good idea to load HE
Dude was engaging an M18 and M109 at the same time and didn't load HE.
With the M18 spam situation he was actually trying to get to the M46, which was the actual threat. Guess what ended up killing him, the three M18s or the M46?
@@Chopstorm. But that m18 at the very beginning that was completely unaware I would've just aimed at ground fired and reloaded he to kill the m18 instead he fired 3 apds rounds at the thing
1:10 Bro brings HE but never remember to use it.
Bro is doing absolutely everything INSTEAD of the dozer challenge
What I find funny is that this thing sits at 6.0 but a much better tank, the Panther D sits at 5.3, lmao.
they moved the panther D up to 5.7 and then moved it back DOWN to 5.3, didn't they? not sure why that was, honestly. it should be just fine there
@@shronkler1994 Panther D should be at least 6.0 and other panthers 6.3+ IMO. I bring the Panther D up to 7.3 for shits and giggles sometimes and it handles itself fine.
The Panther D is faster, and he has a worse gun but with HE-Filler, everything else is worse, how is the panther better ?
@@ideadlift20kg83 oh yes, there should be only 1 br bracket between panther A and king tiger, genius
@@_sarpa King Tiger should go to 7.0 along with T44 100.
This video is basically spookston hating all british tanks for almost 16 minutes
10:10 spookston is summoning a demon
In defence of the Chally 2, The rifling makes HESH more accurate. Which is why they chose it over an unrifled cannon, as British tank doctrine preferred infantry support roles.
The main bad thing about rifled guns is the fact they need to be replaced more often than smoothbore guns, the actual performance between smoothbore and rifled isn't much
The Challenger 2's shells however are limited in length by the ammo storage areas rather than the gun, kind of like Russian autoloaders having the same issue
Yes, but you guys just threw HESH out the window quite early so the entire point of that rifling is redundant. I believe I've read that they are currently replacing all Challenger 2 barrels for smooth bore now.
@@ideadlift20kg83 No I think its just Chally 3 thats getting smoothbore, specifically the Reinmetahl 120
@@connivingkhajiit Ah, maybe. Thanks!
@@ideadlift20kg83 The Challenger 2 still uses HESH a lot
The Challenger 3 uses the L55A1 gun, the same gun as the Leopard 2A7/8, the guns are produced in the UK tho
4:17 true spookston schizo moment
DO THAT SEMOVENTE 75/46 M43.
GIORNO 227
AVANTI SAVOIA!
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Lol W name and pfp
GET THIS MAN HIS VIDEO
giorno 10 of replying to this comment to boost it
I'm stalking nanogamingyt rn
AVANTI SAVOIA!!
0:33 só about that, basically doctrine. Remember they were still leaning on the whole infantry tank shebang
4:45 As a fellow random desk object fidgeter, avoid leaving super glue on your desk.. don't ask how I know
The weird part is the Meteor was plausible fit even on first production Churchills by the timeline of the engine and tank development.
And aussies had fit 25 pounder and even 17 pounder(didn't exist yet though) on that turret ring by using different turret design and inhumane crew conditions😅
P.S.: 3:43 isn't that a wet ammo stowage(based on HVSS and the fact it's on the floor)? That had finally worked out at least for one single player? And you want to take it away?
Loving the CNC generals OST in the backround
11:14 that was NOT a kill, that was a murder
“Don’t do anything dumb FV!”
FV4005: “Imma hurt this mf”
7.40 "this is a joke"
Sure thing bud
Attempt 3 at getting Spookston to do some CAS in the Wyvern
Video 41: You can't escape spookston, someday you will have to play the stock btr-80.
We can only hope
fun fact: you can actualy bring 1 extra peice of primary ammo due to WT modeling the round geting loaded into the breach, for exeple; when i play the Crusader Mk.2 unlike most people i bring 31 rounds: 15in the turret ammo rack, 15 in the turret basket and 1 (one) in the breach of the gun.
this 'fun fact' can be very usefull on tanks with a low "first ammo rack" shell count ...
That reaction at 10:10 is absolutely epic
If I remember right from a talk by the Tank Museum, the designers did actually want a more powerful engine in it but Vauxhall were being awkward.
Spookston it would be super cool if you played the ZA-35
(Attempt 29)
Dear lord the primal pain and confusion at 10:10 🤣
The state of sabot grants people powers that most would consider to be... unnatural
The infantry tanks like the Churchill and the black prints are designed to escort inventory that’s why they’re called inventory tanks so they don’t really need to go faster than you can walk and that’s why they are so slow
I mean, the Black Prince is underpowered, unlike the Churchill
yeah but that design principle is stupid and we quickly figured that out and came up with the 'universal tank' concept
infantry* not inventory
Gotta protect the inventory
@dd-gl2qf aye it had flaws but aleast it wasn't the German approach of making every single tail unrelated to each other and making them also have more armor at the cost of transmissions and resources
3:12 Spookie's back, tell a friend
I wonder if Spookston likes listening to Eminem🤔🤔
@@ahmadrifqisusanto6008 lol
3:43 least bugged sabot shot.
4:55 I do the exact same thing, and I too fidget with lighters on my desk. I bought a bunch of different ones to set off fireworks with my family one year, and ever since they've just been fidget toys in my apartment. I even refill them when they run out of fluid. Dropped a lit Zippo on my lap during a conference call for work once. That was cool.
You should play the Churchill NA75. It's a Churchill with the American 75mm
13:19
Rheinmetall: Yes Sir🤭
Just 2 hours ago i was lookin up videos of this tank. Spookston are you in my walls?
10:10 primal rage
I love this tank so much. It's so slow people sometimes forget you exist. And the APDS one-shots tigers so easily
apds and "oneshot" do not belong in the same sentence
@nattly6340 I honestly don't understand the hate towards APDS. I've never had any problems with it and I prefer to use it over other rounds
@@Ulfur8574 refer to the video, hitting ammo isnt a guarantied kill, bad dispersion of shells, awful spalling.
@nattly6340 I guess not everyone has a good time with APDS
@@Ulfur8574 I've even shattered rounds on a MArder 1A3, a tank with a severe lack of side armor firing 120 APDS
that black cat non pen preventing the collateral was hilarious 😂
I remember running into this for the first time as a young german main that hadn't learned to actually aim yet... My Panther and I were terrified until I managed to flank it as it slaughtered my team
This has been the best "Watch Spookston Suffer" tank since whenever he did whatever that TD with the backward long 88 is
Spookston!(and anyone else really) If you have a Intel 13th or 14th Gen CPU you could be seeing issues at 11:30 from ongoing issues with those generations of CPU, Intel basically says anything over 65 watts of power draw(aka basically every CPU in those generations) is basically burning itself out. Gamers Nexus has a few good pieces on it, so does Level1tech. Basically Intel has screwed everyone over and has started massive cost cutting in a panic. They even cut the complimentary fruit and drinks for their workers!
Adding an edit here to add: There will be a micro code update some time this month, but it's unlikely to really fix the issue but might prolong the life of your CPU a little, at the cost of some performance.
I think i would like a spookston podcast:)
I always run the Black Prince with 30+ APDS because you are going to need A LOT of them lol. And also try to engage in long distances, just so you don't have to take 20 mins to get to the front and at longer distance, unless you get hit by a HEATFS, not many things can hurt you
"We penned his manlet what?" say hello to a 17 pounder with APDS.
also the reason it's so slow is because of intentional design influenced by doctrine, the churchill series are infantry tanks meant to support infantry so we never made them much faster than a person can walk. the doctrine was heavy armoured tanks with infantry to break holes in enemy lines then very fast very thin armoured tanks to exploit those holes. the doctrine ran headlong first into reality once the war kicked off and we couldn't retool or redesign our tanks because of our factories being bombed and the fact almost nothing was standardised so we had to stick with the designs even though we did change our tactics.
Day 3 of asking Spookston to play the Hungarian Csaba
You are my man!😃👍
Nooo don't torture the poor man
The tank on the left at 1:38 just spawning into existence… I sometimes get surprised by an enemy that just wasn’t there a few moments ago, but now is in plain sight, and wonder what happened. Well, this happened. E-sports ready, baybeee.
The main reason the Churchill tanks are so slow is the engine is governed. You cannot rev it over a certain rpm. Guess it was meant to prolong the engine.
4:26 If vets are to be believed, it's whoever is the best at scrawling on the walls of the bathrooms/portapottys on base.
Attempt 52 Challenge: For high tier support a nations MBT with its respective APC/IFV counterpart (ie Abrams/Bradley, T90/BMP2M, etc.) Challenge is keeping the other player alive and supporting it without stealing kills (breaking barrels, tracking, repairing, etc) it being a random should help make it interesting.
The use of the penetration screen along with the boom sound effect was gold
Play the M42 as a td
It can pen tiger one side
11:14 That FV evaporated whatever tank that was
15:07 That is the summary of the British tank line in my experience. Its so frustrating sometimes. Solid shot sucks balls thanks to the RNG
"Its armour is quite good."
Spook lied as naturally as he breathed.
The reason for the 350hp is because the tank was a proof of concept, not a battle tank. The only ones built were prototypes. Production variants were supposed to have a supercharged Meteor engine of 950hp.
The standard engine was used just to allow the prototypes to move around.
Angle slightly, hide your lower plate, and charge on. You have a built in stabilizer
spookston when open tops and 5 unused he shells: sabot
Something that you might enjoy is the American m13 anti air it has two .50 cal mgs and is a great anti everything
ah, the eternal dilemma of low spall ammo. Go for the turret to ensure they can't fight back, or go for the hull to stop them from running away?
The first 20 seconds of gameplay all I could imagine was a Tuba playing that "fat man walking" kind of music.
I sprained my ankle from a nasty fall off of a mean ol bronc from a rodeo but damn its sure as hell good to watch some spookston lol
Me see UA-cam
Me watch Spookston
Me happy
I still regret grinding the British tech tree to this day. I only made it to 6.0 💀
Now time to try the Churchill 1 just for a change of pace.
I love how he talked about the beef
Spookston forgot to get more ammo again.
To be fair, tanks usually are firing HE at infantry etc. rather than shooting APFSDS at tanks, so the rifled gun probably does help for accuracy.
Who needs a tank engine when you have five car engines or three bus engines?
That game freeze happens to me as well and last a second or two at the worst time possible when i need to fire or round a corner with someone looking, the snail wishes for me to do bad
Thats a lot of hellcats, those 5 HE shells sure look like they could be useful
13:44 When Nigel finally gets around to getting the Lancaster.
I have tried to play the Black Prince a few times, and every time I go back to the TOG. Better gun. Lower on-paper top speed but it hits it in all terrain, forward and reverse, uphill and downhill. Armor's bad, but it's big enough and has enough crew that it feels tougher.
What I'm saying is Spookston should do another TOG video.
That M46 acted more like a raid boss than it did a Patton.
Thank you spookston you freed me from the torment of the prince that is also black
Choosing to be a British Main probably falls under its very own branch of masochism
Meanwhile the Churchill VII shares the same sentiment as its enemies - They find each other very hard to kill
As a long time user of the Black Prince, the APDS is better since you can just pen whomever, when it uh doesn't shatter that is... Make sure you bring a lot. It has decent post pen damage at least.
Looks like old grandpa is limping back towards the front
This is why I always bring full loadout. Spam shells and if I get hit, pretty fireworks
The TOG II sends its regards. I didn’t even know there was a tank slower than the Hot Tog
Black prince is infantry support tank, that's why it only goes as fast as people can walk behind it.
I think Spook has a bias against APDS, because it's pretty dang good in this tank. Black Prince is a money maker for UK
He just cant play with heavy and slow tanks, thats not his playstyle
@@matador4501 Not just this tank, there are a few with APDS that he's always complaining about, yet when I'm playing it's pretty effective. But nothing is worse than APCR. He just hits the wrong spots.