JINJER Pisces (LIVE Studio Session) HONEST REACTION (from 40 yr old PUNK ROCK DAD!!!)
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Yes, snobbery and pretension is exactly how I would describe a band that left their home town in Ukraine due to war and essentially toured non-stop for the last 10 years just to barely scrape by and finally get some sort of fame and success. Personally in all seriousness, I haven't given a fuck about heavy music since listening to maiden in high school in the 80s, but Jinjer (pronounced like Ginger, has no meaning, they just liked the sound of it, and could give a fuck if you like it not) made me care about the genre again. They are fantastic musicians, they are progressive death/core, they are much heavier than this song in their other songs. This may not be your cup of tea, but there is nothing snobbish about this band. Period.
Not sure what your tastes are, you say you're a punk, so if hardcore is more your thing, you may enjoy the songs "The Prophecy", or "Sit Stay Rollover". "Teacher, Teacher" is also great, a bit more proggy, but still heavy and aggressive. Good luck. Thanks for the reaction.
I said it SOUNDS pretentious my dude. which it does. Never said THEY were snobby, I have never met them, I assume you have since you said there is nothing snobbish about the band? I also paid them plenty of compliments. But just bc you grew up with a hard life, doesn't mean you wouldn't make pretentious music or act snobby, that is a ridiculous thing to say. I know plenty of impoverished, poor people that are pretentious about art and music, though most are crust punk kids, very few are into metal. I am glad they're safe doing something they love (for real, the Ukraine is not a fun place to grow up from my understanding) but that doesn't mean they don't make that kind of music with that kind of sound or vibe. But you are clearly a fan and very passionate about them so I am glad they reignited your love of heavy music.
I will also check out those other recommendations but if you are worried about my critique not being something you agree with, feel free to not watch. This is a review and reaction channel so I will give my honest reaction, regardless of what the band's or their fans think of it (and I am positive they don't give a shit about what I think either, why would they?). Though I do welcome you to watch and converse with me if you want, I don't block or remove comments that aren't bots and I stand behind what I say. Sincerely, thanks for watching, have a good one
@@31TV_TX I look at a critique of someone's art as a critique on that person. Just informing you that is not their view on music and life. I understand your perspective I'm definitely not butt hurt by it. I liked your vid and subbed to your channel, so no hard feelings. Also I'm not a high college student.
@@jazoon7249 shit, now that was refreshing, thank you! Also, I appreciate the sub, welcome to the 31FAM 👊😎🏴☠️
The only thing I don't understand about that is how can a critique of a person's music be a critique of them personally? That would be two totally different conversations most of the time. But hey, as long as we understand how we both view it, there should be no reason we can't talk about it. Appreciate you homie, have a good Thanksgiving and stay safe!
@UCnxHNyffc5h7RAj_IPfIJRw by "effect" i didn't mean amplification of sound cool guy, I meant effect. Like I said. I'm a musician, artist, and creator and I disagree that they're "a musician's band". But this is the exact snobbery and pretentious talk I was referring to. Hell, a lot of the time it isn't the band that's an issue, it's their fans. This music is objectively well made but good is subjective. See Tool and The Deftones as other examples awful bands that have unbearable fans. But either way, thanks for supporting
@Bloviator Magnus I was describing it, not complaining. If you like the band, why do you care what I think?
I never smoke weed and I'm a 61 year old Rock/Metalhead. THEY ARE MY FAVORITE BAND NOW. Watch more Jinjer.
Thank you for not caring what others think about what your option is. Stay blunt don't change.
She came in before this and laid down vocal tracks to go under her. It’s all her though. The growls are 100% her. Check out Perennial live at Wacken to hear her live. Or watch the one take performance of Judgement and Punishment. They’re possibly even better live. This song has the most abrupt transitions. The other songs are better blended. The choice was made given the subject of the song focused on the dual nature of a Pisces. Not one of their songs sound the same. All of them are bad ass musicians 🖤 (I totally don’t get where you hear pretension though. They’re incredibly down to earth.) They’re Ukrainian btw.
that explanation is exactly what i was thinking, thanks! Also, i have no idea if they are pretentious personally, I was just talking about the music, which is that particular brand of metal.
@@31TV_TX I’m not arguing you’re opinion at all, and I know a sound may be hard to explain in detail, but I was wondering what sounds pretentious about them? I can think of pretentious sounding music, but I don’t see it here, so I was just curious 😊
@@SparkimusPrime if I try to explain it I will no doubt sound like a giant asshole, lol. I'll try and explain it on an upcoming reaction of their music. People take it way too personally a lot, not much I can do about that. Unfortunately they seem to not hear the positive stuff I say. I hope you sub, come with the 31FAM on this journey, we gonna blow up!!!!
@@31TV_TX Oh I subbed on the Popular Monster reaction lol music is a vibration and sometimes that vibration doesn’t...vibe...with you. I’m sure most would vehemently disagree with me but I can’t stand Tom MacDonald. I think he looks like a grown up Garbage Pail Kid and find him nauseating as a person. So I get it lol I’m glad you can at least appreciate the talent. That’s the most important thing to a fan I think.
@@SparkimusPrime Holy shit, a grown up Garbage Pail Kid!?! Baaahahahahaha, that's amazing!
He's definitely not for everyone but what about him as a person don't you like? I'm actually asking, I know very little about him
This is a band that does it’s best work live, Tatiana can switch her vocals on a dime. I have always liked metal since the 1970s in high school. Now I really find myself enjoying progressive metal core.
Her vocals are very good, my favorite part of the band for sure
That is a rough review bro. I've been a musician (drummer) for almost 33 years now in various types of bands (metal,progressive, stoner, indie rock, etc) and spent my life in rehearsal buildings with several other bands and let me tell you...this band is beyond amazing. They are well trained and very proficient performers and that should not be dissed upon or undermined especially for that brilliant 'bass playing'' you don't care about. Secondly, like it or not, that girl is genuine and honest as she lives her songs and give meaning to them through her performance and undeniable talent. You may not like it and that's fine, but they are an AMAZING band and should be at least respected as such. This generation of music obviously eludes you but you need to accept that music is always evolving and always will and for one, I'm so amazed by some of the musicians that are emerging in this ''my apple computer does all that shit'' industry. If you are a musician you should at least be grateful that some kids are still picking up instruments and want to get creative with them, express themselves artistically and make real music. So for that fact alone I would tell you to go fuck yourself! Respectfully from one musician to an other. KEEP REAL MUSIC ALIVE !!!!!!!
Her vocals was fire if she can do that a drop of a dime I was like damn
funny enough, jinjer doesn't like this song because it got so big. i get why this is the first song that people want someone to listen to, because it has the shock/surprise factor. However, songs like Who is Gonna Be the One, No Hoard of Value, Retrospection, Teacher Teacher, etc. are far better songs overall imo. They have so much talent and they are soooooooo good live. I totally get why people don't like this song though.
Opinion respected. Try "Who Is Going To Be The One" live concert next.
Thank you, and I can do that for sure
@@31TV_TX Why do another reaction if you're going to have pre-conceived ideas already of this band??
You'll start harping on that the band is Pretentious & a bunch of Snobs again probably! Thumbs down & I'm out for good, ciao!!
@@aryansigrid I react to the songs people ask me to react to. Thats why. Ciao!
Who is gonna be the one Live might be more to your taste. It's a lot more raw and heavy, plus you get to see her growl totally live on stage.
I'm 100% checking that one out, a lot of recommendations for it! Thanks!
What the ? I don't know how you can say the band sounds "Snobby" & "Pretentious" dude, @ all??
The band member's are in their 30's & the singer's voice IS genuine!
You basically said you don't give a toss about the band members musicianship, did you even notice what the other 3 band members look like? Eugene, the Bassist is a hell of a player!
You say you're a 40 Punk Rock Dad but you're attitude is the opposite of Punk Rock!!
You judged, assumed, labelled & talked trash about the singer as if she were a piece of meat there for your personal sexual entertainment??
Maturity doesn't come with age I see! Jinjer have been a band for 12 years & are getting more famous by the day.
I smell Jealousy with a big J!
I think you commented on the wrong video homie.
@@31TV_TX No I 100% got the right video & you know it, homie!
This is 💯 her voice, there is some layering and minor effects added during post production, but other than that it is "live". I see that you have already done another live song( who's going to be the one) so not sure what your take on it is.
The song is about duality. That's why they switched back and forth between the clean and distorted voice.
At last a proper and 100% honest reaction/critique of Pisces.
99% of the other reactions to Jinjer are fake, ie band wagon reactions, already listened to the song and rehearsed the eventual edited and false reaction. Having said that, I personally love this song and the band, I am not a metal head, I appreciate clever, interesting and honest music.
Their live performances are something to be admired although I have yet to witness them live myself (fuck covid).
Great reaction vid, don't agree with you on lots of points, but hey, your opinion counts as much as anyone elses.
Big thumbs up. . 👍 Subbed.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I’m 50 and Jinjer I reckon are the best band on the planet at the moment. But saying that Otep, Opeth, Slipknot, SOAD, Slaughter To Prevail are my favourite current favourites, but I still love old school Indie, country, dance. We all like what we like. Live and let live🤘🤘🤘👍👍👍.
Agreed, thanks for watching, I appreciate it! You're the kind of person that makes me want to watch more songs from bands I wouldn't care for with a more open mind and even if I don't care for it, just say little about it. Too bad so many unbearable, toxic fans exist. Of course they make it hella fun too! Have a good weekend
The SHOP31 - Horror & Film You too have a great weekend yourself, too much negativity in the world, music is a beautiful outlet, don’t let the world get you down 🤘🤘🤘
Hey man thanks for the reaction… I smashed the sub button because your view right now is exactly where I started out with this band, and I can’t wait to see your change LOL.. I got a little bit of backstory and gave them a couple chances and now I haven’t been this into a band since I discovered Metallica in the early 80s... it may not happen, but I have a real good feeling it might!! 💪💪💪 .. Perennial live and who is going to be the one live were the sellers for me… And then teacher teacher completely sealed the deal.. i’m in my mid-40s so I’m old as fuck and I can’t get enough of this band!!!
Remind me a little bit of Kenny powers
...cool react cuz...subbin...this song by them was re recorded to showcase their new drummer...for obvious reason...definitely check out "whos gonna be the one" live for an outstanding live stage performance of this once in a lifetime band...thanks man...peace....
Lol I'll agree to disagree as you said at the beginning of the video. Having said that, I find honesty like yours very refreshing and it is not something that you run into every day. I really like that you despite not being very into the band did notice Tatiana's voice talent, along with the drummer's talent. I usually don't jump to my personal favorite of theirs as a recommendation. Pit of Consciousness live in Kiev is a video that does showcase all of their skills at their best. You did say that you were skeptical of her voice. Like it or not, you'll hear her whole range in that one. I get it though. There is no music out there that is for everyone. We live in a different strokes for different folks world, so it's all good. It's just a matter of taste and it's nothing for people to get butthurt about.
one of the more reasonable comments I have seen yet, I appreciate it.
Should you choose to do another... JINJER - Who Is Gonna Be The One (Live) ua-cam.com/video/U6rv5qi8-8s/v-deo.html
if you want it hard, this is their hardest... JINJER - Sit Stay Roll Over (Official Music Video) ua-cam.com/video/a98LI-arNS4/v-deo.html
That one was requested quite a bit, I'll happily check it out! Thanks!
@@31TV_TX Yep, that's what I do, throw what they want so you don't have to dredge...most of the time... ;oP
As someone much older than you I think the pretension is coming from you and not from the bad...
that is a possibility for sure but i don't think so. definitely coming from the band. Or more from their fans (people like you) than the band i guess. Thanks for watching though, have a good one!
Check out Jinjer “who is gonna be the one “live .It’s one of their heaviest songs .
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They do progressive metal so in their songs you find influnces from many music styles regge jaz etc. this is the most common reaction request since the song i so slow and smooth so the contrast to the growls seems bigger. they added a bit of voice doubling so it is not a pure live studio session but yeah the growls are real you would likley like their other songs more.
Do their song Teacher, Teacher.
You are pronouncing the bands name correctly :) You should react to Jinjer, 'Perennial' Live at Wacken open air 2019... this is one of their more tame songs.
oh thank goodness, lol, I was seriously worried I was messing that all p! lol I'll check out that other song soon, I am putting together a list so keep an eye out and sub if you wanna be early on this journey!!! Thanks for watching bud
@@31TV_TXI'll keep an eye out, yes the low growl is really her, why they fed an extra line under some of the soft vocals I don't know but the low growls are legit...
@Bloviator Magnus I'll watch em and react so you can see if I like them, happy turkey day!
@@31TV_TX I'd agree with @Bloviator Magnus. If you have some problems with so called "pretentious" music (if I understand correctly what do you mean) it seems you'll rather prefer Jinjer's older stuff more then newer. Something like "Scissors", "Sit stay rollover", may be "Who's gonna be the one".
In other words, previously the band was more metalcore, now they are more proggy. They add more jazz or reggae vibe in there music (partly because of the changes in there lineup).
I can't say that their new stuff is getting less heavy. E.g. "Pit of consciousness" is probably their heviest song (and in a live in Kiev video you could hear probably deepest female growl ever). But they are mixing the styles and the new song could be partly heavy as hell and partly chill and jazzy, or something else. In the past their music was more raw (but less technical I'd say)
@@glebivanov6323 yeah I just don't think ol dude heard what I said or he just didn't listen. I review the songs I'm asked to review. And if someone gets mad bc I called a band's music pretentious and then they respond by talking shit and saying I can't "get it" because the song is "artistically sophisticated" then my point is being made for me. I dont know why everyone cares so much if I don't like a song but its pretty hilarious. I'll check out whatever songs, I don't care. I like tons of stuff, regardless of what some kid on UA-cam thinks
Its more prog with the mash up of styles.
As you said at the beginning, it was an honnest reaction. Tastes are personnal and in some way define who you are. So for me an honnest reaction will always be appreciated.
Maybe Jinjer will never be one of your favorite band, but you may change your mind (or not or partially) if you dig a bit, because this song is not all Jinjer has to offer.
If you state you love the clean /soft part but hate the growls /scream / hard part, then there is no chances you would one day like them. Curiously, someone who like everything about the song and hope all their songs will like it may also not like what else they have to offer.
But it is not your case. The rought part get your attention and from it you understand this band may have something to offer, even you figure it maybe not your taste at the end of the day.
That's beeing said, there is a real possibility you will finally like them more than you may think now. Maybe they will never be on your playlist, but possibly you may enjoy discover what else they have to offer.
Many suggestions had been made, here are mine if it may help you to figure where to dig.
1- Is it her real voice?
Honnest answer: yes and no. They admit they use post production, but also asked which don't?
At one point you will figure her possibilities, and it is amasing. Many see her as a vocal beast and you may end think that too.
For me they produce a specific video to exactly show her vocal possibilities. It wont be your taste, you are warn, but it may answer quickly the answer and after you may be concentrate on the aspect other than figure if it is her voice, effects, etc. Which most people ask at the beginning, just a legitimate question.
The video : Judgement and Punishment Tatiana Shmayluk One take vocal performance.
2- Similar songs
Pisce is pretty unique, but they have other song I can class in this "category".
Perennial live at Wacken
Definetly worts a check. By far there huggest crowd. Wacken is a big metal festival and Jinjer cannot dream of crowd like this by themselve.
But you may find how a good performer Tatiana is. The best compliment I read about her was from an old guy who watch shows for over 40 years and figure only one performer he saw is at her level : Jimmy Page.
And of course you will have a good taste of how they sound live.
Who is gonna be the one
Older but one of their most enjoyable live performance. You will soon figure they never sound the same and she is also, mostly, different on all video, a kind of cameleon.
Teacher Teacher
Also very good. May interest you with the lyrics whoms are written by Tatiana. I always figure it help to carry emotion and beleave when you sing your own words. And she also choose how she sing (clean, scream, growl, belt, etc.)
3- The hard stuff
They definetly have.
Stay sit roll over
You must choose the official video version. They have many great live song. But this one in a warehouse with the dog is a must to see. Also notice the drummer is not the actual.
Pit of consiousness at live at Kiev
They just publish their first live album (Melbourne). But for me Kiev is there best concert. It is the home town of Tatiana and I'm sure it is a part of why this show is so good.
The clean won't impress you, but she then personnify someone in confusion. The official video is beautifull and make understand what is happening, but the Kiev performance is a must for me.
Cloud Factory
The official video for many reason.
Maybe the last video where they had 2 guitars. Actually you will notice the bass is very present and not accessory. So two member who are not in the band now.
An environnemental song. You may less appreciate but I like it.
Hope it help and ready to watch your next reactions.
Its definitely her singing.try (PERENNIAL)live in wacken 2019 & (THE PROPHECY).thank you! ENJOY!!!
From a perspective of a human who used to listetened of Sepultura and many bands from back there , this song was incredible when ive heard it first time...but this song needs to be hearded a few times...the drums..the bass..the quitar ...and Tati..from a punk rock opinion is not ok..and Jinjer can play every genres..thx!
I'm gonna check out some of their other stuff too, contrary to what it may seem like, I have a broad palate
You might wanna try Judgement & Punishment one take. That is a different sound of their's and shows her vocal range better. She uses her false chords for the growls.
What does false chords mean?
@@31TV_TX false chord: More overtones than Death, less than Fry. Less gurgly than death, but can still be quite gurgly. CAN be pitched to a note. Takes less breath support than death, but still a LOT of support (all screaming does). Takes more breath "finesse".
A year late reaction: I love pretentious shite, I really do. That is what the music industrie in most cases is about. This smart Oekrainian band is fighting his way up. I appreciate that. Good reaction though.
Oh no your reacting to my favourite band should i run for cover or watch to the end of this video😉band decision with the relay and effects on voice don’t know why.no effect on the growl though .definitely try some other stuff by these try “ the prophecy next”....if you want 😬
You definitely missed your vocation as a stand-up comedian.
I completely understand why you think it's 'snobbery'. The settings and the vibe of this song is kinda different. If you are interested in a more 'straight forward' song of them check out The Prophecy, Sit Stay or Teacher Teacher. And there is more than enough some live stuff where the vocals will make your jaw drop. Have fun man!
I have a few of their songs lined up to check out. So many people get butt hurt when you don't like their favorite band, its wild! But pretty fun too. Takin shit too seriously. Oh well, you'll never please everyone. Thanks for watching, have a good day!
Coming from someone who says they are a "punk rock" dad...I am confused why you don't like this? What do you like if not anything that sounds similar to punk rock?
Sorry I can't see any pretentiousness in anything they were doing. We'll have to agree to disagree. Seem to me to be bringing old grievances with people from long ago so that you can't fully enjoy a great song, a fantastic singer/performer and a very tight and supremely talented band.
Watch teacher teacher live and judgment and punishment one take