We CALLED Microsoft to Check if $12 Windows 10 PRO Keys are LEGIT...
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- So we called Microsoft after some viewers commented that the sponsor SCDkeys as well as other third party sellers weren't legit. Well the answer may shock you...
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is this OEM? or retail?
The problem with Microsoft support is that it sounds too much like a scam call.
This is partly why people fall for virus scams.
I once spoke to someone at MS support in the same country as me. Flabbergasted.
@@horusrogue The scams try too hard, their too convincing!
@@pythonner3644 no way.
I've been getting a lot of calls claiming to be from Apple Support recently. Not only do I not own any Apple products, but every time they call, the caller ID shows a different number. Plus, in no world does support from any company call you out of the blue.
maybe they are the same person. u know 2nd job :)
That Microsoft guy sounded just like the scammers that call pretending to be from Microsoft.
I came to find this exact comment.
That happens when a lot of legit tech support job gets outsourced to India, the notoriuos home for scammers as well...
Yep 🤣🤣
@Nate Schmidt no gift card but vagene?
when you call Microsoft a Pakastani answers te phone. totally legit.
The guy on the phone: I'm paid by the hour but you're still wasting my time
i just reused w8,1 key i paid for 100€, on w10.
and it worked... i guess ms dont care much.
@@Unknown-jl7mg They make more money spying on you with W10 anyway
@@casperes0912 well.....welcome to modern era... zero privacy
@@Unknown-jl7mg win 7 key would work as well
@@Unknown-jl7mg Costs a lot of money to maintain three different operating systems (for home users alone, not counting whichever server versions they're still maintaining). They might think that the sooner the last Win7 or Win8 system disappears, the better.
The 'Microsoft' guy on the phone sounded like a scammer himself. He doesn't care who uses what anyway. "If it splits... it shits..."
That's his second gig after-hours.
no joke. i have used these guys a long time ago. had to reinstall after 6mo and key turned up as invalid. they wouldnt reply to any inquiries on why.
@@nukeum9535 - there 's unauthorized reselling all the time. If reported and caught, key gets removed from server.
No longer valid, happens all the time to corporate keys.
The problem is not many young westerners want these jobs. They are too busy playing Xbox and collecting relief checks from Biden.
My first thought too.
So, in short, "If you are not a business, you can pirate it, we don't care"
Libertarian Capitalist when he realizes not everyone in the world is a business: *triggered*
As long as you have an invoice fro your licenses, nobody cares what exactly is installed on your machines (in business env)
That has pretty much always been Microsoft’s motto.
@@veselinkovachev1154 yupp, a Microsoft rep once told me they didn’t care if we used activation cracks and “non-genuine” keys on our business machines as long as we had proof of the real licenses somewhere
Almost all the businesses in Bulgaria are pirating it too. I have never seen a legal windows copy ever in my life here in Bulgaria other than the ones that come with OEM stickers. All my friends, all my relatives, all the businesses I know use activators. If you buy your PC from smaller shops again it comes with a windows activated with activator.
Indian guy appears to have been abruptly woken up to take the call.
TRUE
Was prolly late night when he called and woke up the poor dude dozing off. smh
I want to see Brian talk to the licencing and legal department, not some outsourced employee who clearly does not care
@@stephendetomasi1701 TRUE!!!
@@MaxC_1 Probably morning in India, and working from home right now.
Retail keys makes up such a tiny part of Microsoft's profit that they can't be bothered about Grey market keys
Because they sell your data to 3rd parties which is why they want people using their OS
100%. Microsoft makes a mint on Cloud computing& enterprise licenses. The could not care less about cheap retails keys.
Exactly - and the tracking info they get from your system is more valuable to them than the loss of the retail key sale - so they could care less where you got the key from as long as you connect your system to their servers. These type of key resellers have been around since window 3.1 - figure on windows 7 the way the OEM keys were setup was each pre-built PC actually came with 2 valid keys that could be used on 2 systems ( 1 was for the individual machine and attached to the pre-built case to be used if you ever had to reinstall the software from scratch but was normally never actually used since the OEM had their own bulk key they used to activate all of their systems as they were built - so 3rd party companies that refurbished off lease systems just resold those keys since 99%+ of those keys were never used and any that had been that did not properly activated were just tossed out and you given another if you called them after buying to say it would not work.) So they had millions of keys that were never used. ( I remember going to a retail store a few times when needing a key and just copying the key off of the certificate on a display laptop or desktop and going home and entering it to activate systems when I couldn't afford to buy a license and never had problems activating it - and as the support rep said in this video once it is activated on their server it will stay activated for that system for life.)
Interesting. I think at this point microsoft is practically handing out keys and couldn’t be bothered to change or market their new business model for suckers who still want to pay full retail for OS.
Recently phone activated a win10 key purchased on a key sales site(cdkoffers). It was a verified end user retail key.
The first thing the CSR asked was where I got the key(without being told any information, so he didn't know anything about the key except that it was win 10 home).
It IS in their script somewhere, but I think it's in relation to volume and OEM licenses for tracking. M$ does not want those being sold as retail keys
The link in the description is not working anymore,
Does someone know where I can buy a from another website?
Yes, I got my key from another channel, It's incredibly cheap, and they have great support!
#keybydani
That's the channel ^
link worked for me, but you have to put the discount code specified in the description - BFTYC
that conversation with the "tech support" guy meant nothing!
True .. there is no responsibility
Only to make people buy from sdkeys ...
Unlike & unsubscribe as well. This is shit advertising..I'm using those keys as well but I wouldn't encourage people doing it as is not really legal..even if I'm doing that doesn't mean that what I'm doing is good...
Well it means the support desk employee lacks basic understanding of the question asked and the tools or knowledge to verify the key and does not care at all. Standard Microsoft support.
Means that Microsoft does not care as long as you get your windows copy to show as activated... god enough for me...
'Cause I use Linux anyway.
people paying for windows keys:
me, having photographed every Win 7 Pro key off of the hundreds of PCs I've thrown out while in various IT departments: legit?
lol yep and with how little they care one of those win 7 pro oem keys can probably work a bunch of times. its all about the collected data for microsoft now
yes completely legit. I have a draw full of them myself, some from laptops from boxes.
old keys are fully legit in the current day.
Awesome man. I'm hopefully building a PC this black friday and was wondering if you could maybe give me a spare win 7 key. No worries if not just tryna save a few bucks.
OK, but those ol technet win7 MAKs are awesome
@@thesweslayer1963 dont you can download windows 10 for free
The bottom line with Microsoft support is that they want users to be happy with Windows, so if you have an activated Windows, they aren't going to rock the boat even if they suspect an inappropriate license. They prefer to fight the scam at the seller level rather than the user level. However, it seems they have revoked some volume licenses that were heavily abused in the past.
Generally in my experience, Windows 7 Professional keys included on business computers don't have any OEM restrictions and will work on any PC as a legitimate Windows 10 license. If a Windows 7 licensed computer is dead, you can usually use its license elsewhere. Just watch out for accidentally using the same key on more than one computer because you forgot that you were using it elsewhere. If a key has the letters "OEM" as part of the key, then it won't be transferable to a different system (though I haven't seen any Windows 7 Pro keys that were like this, but that doesn't mean they couldn't exist).
Incidentally, I usually use Linux, which is one way to avoid issues with licenses, but sometimes there are reasons to use Windows or a Windows VM, so I am on the lookout for Windows 7 Professional keys that can be reused for Windows 10 (or occasionally a 7 install for some odd reason).
Yes, we bought key from Hypestkey Software, they Microsoft Partner, but price little more 20+ for windows 11
the microsoft support guy legit didn't sound like he could care at all if it was some random 5$ gray market key or a retail key they just want your data they collect either way
Basically that. Microsoft doesn't do anything even against piracy since, I think, 2011 (when they released a small anti piracy update for windows 7).
Windows 8 cracks work on w10 without issues, that's just hilarious. And there are some cracks out that basically generate undistinguishable digital liceses by registering the mobo at MS's servers. Even with a new HDD its then still activated. It's ridiculous that something like this works since YEARS.
The reason is most likely, as you said, they still make money from the pirated installs.
I saw one for 0.01 dollars in aliexpress
There is zero chance that some dude in an Indian call centre has access to the back-end services to verify validity of Windows keys anyway - that's why he was basically saying "dude if it activated for you.. then you know as much as I know about your key. i guess its fine *shrug*".
The real test for this would be to email Microsoft and ask them for confirmation that these keys are correctly (legally) licensed for use in Australia.
Spoiler: they would likely say NO, because COST price for a key in Australia from an OEM distributor is circa $150.
That said - these are still 'genuine' Microsoft Win 10 retail keys of course, just not licensed for distribution to the Australian market - eg: grey market imports. As with most other products, I doubt that would be an impact for 99% of users.
@@m0rthaus not sure about that. I have activated office 2007 and Windows XP/Vista via phone years ago - Indian guys at the other end of the line
@@TheRailroad99 that the problem with the office they have it where you link the key to email account I think that’s has they can do it but with windows keys you don’t need to link it with the account they just try to force you making account just don’t connect to the internet after you do a reset or fresh install
Sounds like me on the IT service desk
"Yep if its working all good mate, yep no worries!"
Relatable
From what I read on a similar video to this years ago, a court case in Germany decided that CD keys on Steam could be resold. However, this ruling also ended up applying to any software using keys, including Windows. If you look into sites like SCDkey, you'll find they are based out of Germany and this court ruling is the main reason why. I have used SCDkey several times over the years for myself, friends, and family... I have never had a problem with one of their keys activating and have ALWAYS received retail copies of Windows even though I purchased OEM keys. It is generally recommended that you attach the computers to a Microsoft account so that Windows license becomes associated with your account, that way the keys can't be resold to someone else a 2nd time.. but I have never had issues with SCDKey.
scd it sell oem keys, retail keys you can buy only from microsoft partners, like - Hypestkey Software
When it comes to VL keys that ruling only applies if you sell the entire license as a unit.
Also MSDN keys most likely do not fall under that ruling as they are only intended to be used by the MSDN subscriber for their own personal evaluation uses.
its never about the key itself, its about how they obtain the keys...here in my country it was a huge legal case of corruption regarding digital keys for education system where the government paid huge amount of money for keys from shady intermediates
you don't even have to pay huge amount of money. If they did they got scammed lol. Such Key's are super Cheap.
It was only a scandal because the government officials who purchased the expensive keys were revealed to be a bunch of idiots.
As they say... "Not our problem"
That sounds like Bulgaria...
@@maxpayne2323 romania actually but close enough
This is just an 11 minute advert.
^^^^ This
I rolled the dice and bought a Windows 10 Home license. I built gaming PCs for my two sons for Christmas, but have not yet tried to register Windows licenses. If this turns out to be a scam, I'll comment about it here.
@@i1patrick I purchased a couple of licenses from them in the past as well. Still doesn't change the fact that this video feels like a long-form advertisement.
yes and no. Its his sponsor, his own credibility is at stake if they sell false keys. So this video is showing to all his viewers that he does his due dilligence and his sponsor is legit. this way he does not get as much negative comments about it anymore and if it does turn out they do sell bad keys at some point he can point out he did his homework and checked in stead of just taking their money and promoting illegal keys.
@@Megacheez ahhh...okay. Didn't realize that this is his sponsor. This is my first time seeing this UA-camr's channel. He should have said something at the beginning of the video then. Otherwise, it makes him look bad to someone new to the channel. It certainly turned me off from seeing any other of his vids. Thanks for the explanation.
Wow so it looks like Windows support really isn’t all that different than the people impersonating and scamming bahahaha
yes sir you have to pay with gift card
Oh so you mean Google's CEO, and the tech presenters in recent Apple and Google events sounded like scammers too? Get educated about Indian accent for F's sake.
@@cgsoul1 , how about India crack down on all the scammers. If they give India such a bad rep that NO LEGIT BUSINESS can be trusted!!
i was thinking the same thing lol,like where did he called,scammers lol
Because they are scammers too
I swear the guy on the Microsoft call centre sounds like he is from one of the phishing scammer line.
The problem is not many young westerners want these jobs. They are too busy playing Xbox and collecting relief checks from Biden.
Feels like he called the "Microsoft support" scam line... Not the real Microsoft support...
Have you ever called MS support? You always get someone with a thicc Indian accent.
A real scammer would have tried to sign him up for extra protection 🤣
@@destruct1214
Because indians are cheaper to hire for customer support.
The problem is not many young westerners want these jobs so these jobs are outsourced to India. They are too busy playing Xbox and collecting relief checks from Biden.
@@namaloompakistani1768 true .
I swear I've talked to this guy before when calling Microsoft😂
yeah he called me. to say my computer has virus.
i said what is a computer.
then something about windows i said i use linux.
after 5min he hang up lol
@@reggiexp69 I strung along one of these bastards for about a half hour. He walked me through some maintenance screens where routine errors were reported (in RED), suggesting that I was in dire need of additional software that he was willing to provide...at a cost. When I asked if this would affect my dual boot (Win 8.1 & Linux) system, he immediately realized he was the mark...not I...and he hung up his phone.
@@jb678901 aahahhahahahahah nice
That's how good their AI is.
They all sound the same....
You should contact them again and explain the situation as clearly and concisely as possible. Provide them with all the details of your purchase, including the company or website where you bought the key from, and emphasize your concern about the possibility of it being a grey market key. Make sure to explain that you need to ensure the validity of the key and ask if they can provide you with any assurance that it is legitimate. It is likely that this rep did not completely understand the situation and you should take the time to explain it in greater detail.
why bother?
And dont be afraid to ask to speak with an English-as-first-language agent. Explain you feel that the situation wasnt understood and context was lost, and you may have been given incorrect info on this important matter.
don't bother its a waste of time...Support are useless. A Lot of companies are like this now, including gov departments, you have to jump through hoops to report crime no one cares. Governments very bad, they often bullshit you about privacy, but when u complain about a bad company, they disclose you're details too that company, even thou they say they don't. Also criminals have you're details but the police will not hand you the offenders details, so there is no justice or fairness.
@@mystixa Well, keep in mind that there are still people who care about honesty and integrity and paying businesses for the staff and research that require supporting new products.
You may not understand because you think leeching and causing others to do work for you and give you free services you are not entitled to is ok. But, I hope I am wrong.
@@bjtaudio I think for MSFT, they kind of expect you not to be in a place where you have to report yourself for doing something that seems shady in the first place and they certainly don't want Tier 1 folks doing it and I doubt even their Tier 3 team. The idea of trying to track down every individual who benefited from piracy is probably going to cost more than it's worth since there are good humans doing legit business with them.
Those are the real folks you hurt when you don't pay for the product you use because cost just gets passed on to the legit folks.
Been buying them off Ebay for $3-5 for years. Always activates. Never any issues.
Been using one for 2 years now never deactivated.
@@SentryxVoid I've done dozens of them. Never had a call back about any deactivation. All my personal machines have those Ebay keys too. Only suckers pay full price.
Same and even if you have an issue I would rather buy a few different $5 keys vs a $100 license lol
Also most of the time they give me multiple keys to try in case one doesn’t work
Yep bought several through ebay over the last 3 years and no issues here either!
@@melvinhans1844 yeah I've had the same experience... multiple keys or a dummy key and then a upgrade key with no issues. I've sent 27 built rigs out in the past 3.5 months without an issue.
Cheers Bryan, my media PC has not been activated and I got tired of the watermark... got it done during the video :)
For those who don’t understand, India is heaven for call centres as they operate at low costs, with tech savvy and English speaking employees. It’s the perfect breeding ground for big companies’ support team hence there are also many scammers from there.
So true. The problem is not many young westerners want these jobs. They are too busy playing Xbox and collecting relief checks from Biden.
@@navalfa7291 i don't think anybody really wants the job tech support, unless you're *THAT* desperate
double trouble country.
Everyone's looking for cheap, but that's just basically pushed responsibility to the front... How much do you care for your costumers if you have to cut costs somewhere. Every company does it, but not every company will owe up to it..
To me, its kind of a scam anyway.. If your treating business in a country, you should do it properly... Outsourcing just sounds bad.. just because everyone wants to be richer than someone else. But on the upshot, they have to do that to stay in business.
OK.. then everyone is a scammer :) No one said they don't come in all shapes and sizes.
@@navalfa7291 no kidding, did you say politics work for us
@@navalfa7291 where did that come from, all they’re saying is it’s cheaper to operate in India nothing to do with how lazy people are.
The only activation I care about is when Tech YES activates a video!
Day 17 of replying to you
...brown noser. ;)
@@x7slim8x ;) Tech YES Addiction! 10/10 would recommend.
@@MarcoGPUtuber I'm just joshing ya bud! I completely agree! I started building budget gaming rigs for local kids. It gets them into gaming the right way and for super cheap! Right when I started Bryan replied to a comment I posted giving me some encouragement.... well here I am almost 4 months later and nearly 30 PCs built and sold doing this for a living! I am not quite at the Tech Yes City level yet, but this is very lucrative and I will never work for someone else again! I owe the inspiration all to Bryan and his videos!
cheesy
To check what type of key you have:
Open cmd
Type slmgr /dli and press Enter
A popup window should show your key status and a partial block of the characters in said key.
Windows 10 Pro
RETAIL channel
Bought it for 2€ lol
@@TheChiro2000 where ya get it so cheap? ebay?
@@darkervx Gamers Outlet website
Why the hecx Microsoft support sounds like someone came from scamming district
Because they use cheap Indian/Pakistani call centers!
@@wallychambe1587 🤣
Your accent on the call the MS was brill, I actually spat out my brew when I watched hahaha, proper lol moment.
I even feel less comforted after that phone cale.
This whole video is about getting "legit" windows key, retail or OEM. So, I just bought key from SCDkeys and it was volume MAK key. And when I complained, their support told me: sorry, all of their keys are like that. This video turns up to be just paid commercial...
The only real money Microsoft makes money nowadays via the keys, is selling the volume licences to businesses.
They're so heavily focused on cloud services (and games etc) that anyone buying an individual key is just a benefit now rather than a key source of income. I think it was best demonstrated by the free upgrade to Windows 10
I think you are kinda wrong, the probably never thought about earning money by selling singular keys, because just a minority of people is able (and has the will) to build a pc, Microsoft actually earn a lot of money from pre-builts and laptops, because you end up paying for the key whether you like it or not.
Microsoft makes their money on your info
Much much more money than they ever made selling windows xp for 99 bux.
Microsoft's main income is the exact same as Facebook... It is selling your personal data and targeted ads. Nothing more, nothing less.
Microsoft main business and profit is on cloud and enterprise products. Most businesses uses Microsoft products and services including Office 365, Windows Server and other Microsoft solutions. Then they buy PC's in bulk, which is already licensed with Windows, heck businesses may still buy volume license for Windows 10 enterprise.
On consumer, Xbox Live is still a king for them, and with xCloud and Gamepass, they are just securing their profit margins even they don't sell much hardware.
I think people actually buying retail copy of Windows is pretty much insigficant for them. Majority of Windows profit already comes from pre-built PC's anyways. So users already been paying Windows everytime they buy a new PC.
About ads, this is least of their businesses considering how Bing is way behind Google Search. They don't really get much money from there and don't have to care much considering how profitable their cloud services anyways. The telemetry they collect is already been a thing way back, usually for purposes of improvements for their own products and services. Others will be for their Microsoft Store, which is not an unusual practice and that is only still even not that much different from let's say Apple whose main business are selling hardware and services.
Google and Facebook are the one will get their revenue from ads and other personalised info. Since most of their services are free. Google at least sells hardware, but that is still on smaller scale as compared to Apple. Well at least Google do make money from Google Play licenses everytime OEM's needs Google Play Store for their Android device. Google dont make money directly from Android, but Google Play does.
@@kornkernel2232 not ads. Collecting and selling data for targeted marketing to who ever.
But yes Microsoft is doing quite well
The support line was as hard to watch as having to deal with it personally, but appreciate the info you offered.
I knew someone that worked at Microsoft and he said as a home user they will never go after a home user with a pirated copy of Windows but if you are selling or have a site selling illegal copies they go for the maximum sentence they can get.
You told the customer service gentleman that you brought a laptop off marketplace not a windows key, I feel he would have looked more into it if you mention it was a key you purchased.
Exactly, MS would look bad and harm W10 if they were deactivating 2nd hand installs.
If he'd been honest as a commercial builder installing gray market keys, I doubt he'd have been reassured.
There is zero chance that some dude in an Indian call centre has access to the back-end services to verify validity of Windows keys anyway - that's why he was basically saying "dude if it activated for you then you know as much as I know about your key. i guess its fine".
The real test for this would be to email Microsoft and ask them for confirmation that these keys are correctly (legally) licensed for use in Australia. Spoiler: they would likely say NO.
From that call with the support I can tell one of two things:
1) microsoft don't care
2) the support guy is simply clueless and don't know a lot about those things and is giving you the simplest answer he can find in his database of faqs.
Think about it, you showed that using a multiple activate key is illegal outside the organization, but if you still activate a home pc with it, it will activate fine. Then it's not simply "if it activated then it's fine". So either they don't actually care the key is MAK, or the dude had no idea about the legal part of this issue. He is probably there to mainly tell people how to reach certain setting in the control panel...
That doesn't mean these or those keys are legal/illegal. The keys from that site could still be ok, I'm just saying that conversation with the sleeping Indian guy should not be taken as proof of anything
He's probably under tier 1 support with limited access to the systems. He doesn't even sound "supportive" on the call. Giving bad reputation to us working in the Helpdesk business
Agreed. Don't take license/contract advice from tech support. And don't take computer advice from a lawyer.
Good point.
Anyway, the indian guy is right, as long as the license is active and validated, its technically ok. What the youtuber wants is rather a question for the legal department/lawyers. You cant expect a random indian guy on the tech support 1st level to answer such difficult question.
yep just general support
What utility tool was used to check the validity of the key?
I remember when you'd always recommend buying the keys cheaply from eBay. Then you got sponsored by a key seller and suddenly you were recommending keys for double the price they could be purchased off eBay for. Weird that.
someone needs to eat
I will say atleast with their site you are pretty much guaranteed a working key or your money back. eBay even though I have never had an issue with one isn’t guaranteed and you would have to go through PayPal bc eBay doesn’t support selling software keys I’m pretty sure
@@zead9481 Just had a lovely sandwich for breakfast. Butter, lettuce, and mayo on wholemeal bread.
Absolutely nothing to do with it being the only stuff I had left in my fridge.
Ebay are cracking down on keys, plus in the video he shows that Ebay keys are likely volume keys which aren't allowed to be resold as opposed to a single retail licence
@@voteDC I don't think he meant you 😂
These 12-15$ add up, when you always have to buy a new code for every new pc you build for yourself.
I have to thank you for this video. There are many scammers out there. I watch your videos, you are one of the most honest techtubbers so I thought "if HE recommends it, I trust him" and so I did purchase a windows key from them and it worked. You saved me a lot of dollars, and being in a Latinamerican country, that's A LOT of money. So again, thank you very very much
Used scdkeys myself...no issues
Same here. Thanks, Bryan.
i worked in fraud investigations before, these are cheap because the money used are from stolen debit and credit cards (these "resellers" dont have anything to lose, they can even sell them a buck each, they'd still make money off it). A lot of them stolen from the older population too. Now, if it was a debit card stolen, its literally stolen straight off their personal bank account. Almost like the thieves hands went in there and steal their hard earned retirement money. It's painful to see. I don't recommend supporting sellers like these esp after learning how and why "resellers" sell them for cheap.
Bought about 5 of them off eBay, years ago for less than $5 a piece, they all work and still do.
Sorry, I have heard a lot of calls like these in YT that I am waiting for the person to ask for a credit card pin, OTP or Amazon Gift card. It sounded like a scam call. A person very dear to me got scammed by these people.
I purchased both a Windows server 2019 and a windows 10 pro key. Both worked perfectly.
In order to use them, both versions had different means by which they needed to be activated.
I had do basically a reinstall from home to pro. And with sever from Evaluation to Standard I needed to use a command prompt and get the syntax correct for a long command.
Once I stopped making mistakes it worked perfectly.
That's some badass "I show you how legit my sponsor is" advertisement! Hopefully you will get your fairshare out of it too. Even if it's just a big ol' thanks a lot from scdkeys.
Thanks Brian. Just bought a Windows 10 Pro key, activated Windows 11 and got the discount from your coupon code. Paid US$15.15.
5:15 This is how Aussie sounds like 😂
Setps to get Windows Original and Genuine
Step1:Open your Internet Browser and type : *CheapKeyNet*
Step2:Get your original cd-key from there
Thanks for clearing this up I didn't believe in it for years. I had unactivated windows and grew tired of the blocky taskbar look. I used your link, I shot for the stars thinking, "Might as well get the pro edition." Sadly with their keys you have to stick with home if you got home or reinstall windows to pro edition. I couldn't be bothered so I stuck with home edition, they replaced the 2 pro keys I bought with "home edition." Now I'm on my way.
ya dont need to change your voice like that when over the phone mate ! lmao
Especially when you're showing yourself using the voice on a public video. Lol
He might as well have told the guy he just baght a Microsoft Knaife to hunt crocodiles ... don't think the guys respond would be much different .. "If the Croc is dead your fine Mate .."
Some of the scammers should do stand up comedy.... They'd get paid much more than trying to scam. But as long as people never learn, well.. their jobs are safe for another decade.
Thanks I just used your discount to be scammed with a used product key!!
I also got scammed
me too key dont work
I still wouldn't be sure about the Win 10 key from Ebay. That MS guy could be wrong. Because I recently sold my old PC, and I wanted to keep the Windows license, so I called Microsoft to ask them to deactivate that key so I can use it on my new PC. When I gave him the key he said that key is "pirated" and it's not a legit key. I bought the key from G2A.
I think the right question to ask would be "Is it okay to buy a key for 12$ from a third party site instead of the official site which charges 100$".
Why did you do that? Haha. You can link your Windows Digital License with your Microsoft Account.
@@dennbearr I did it because the pc I sold won't have any value for the windows key. The buyer just wanted the hardware so he could re sell them piece by piece. So when I tried to deactivate my windows on my old pc, the Microsoft guy said that won't be possible as I was using a pirated key. If said key was original from official site, there would've been no problems.
@@zerotactix5739maybe it is really fake or cracked. Sorry for that.
@@dennbearr Nope. I am well aware of how to crack OSs and softwares and games. I did not do anything to crack it. I paid G2A for a Windows key alone - which when used, activated my Windows PC.
It's most likely a volume license key, you aren't supposed to get them as an end user but 3rd parties can legally sell them in the EU anyways, which is how they wind up on places like G2A
What tool are you using to check key validity?
@brocktravis
late reply but they’re using Windows Toolkit - it’s a well known piracy tool, but only used here for demonstrating key validation
Thank you! I just bought one, on this date it was $14.71 and activated my Pro Key. Thanks bud!
The one issue I have with the video is in reference to whether these Keys are OEM vs Retail. Even with the screenshot when purchasing the Key from SCDkey it showed OEM. As far as I can tell every Key I have purchased through SCDkey has been OEM and not Retail. There may be Retail Key's available but will cost more than OEM versions?
Hello! Nice video!
Btw, at 2:55 what's that software you're using to check the keys?
That is a toolkit used to activate Windows using pirated activation methods, it happens to include a little console where you can check keys.
Your like the only tech youtuber who answers questions we actually want to know lol
But he failed to answer it correctly when he failed to insist that the MS employee verify the key. Do not rely on this video.
@@GlennsFastReviews nah, I've used it before and have called Microsoft to verify, at least when this video cameout it was legit, it's due to the fact you can write a script to pull keys. That's why they are cheap.
@@brett7277 What do you mean "a script to pull keys"?
BTW, I searched for SCDkeys but it didn't come up - maybe they got busted?
I've bought from them and been happy. I was a little suspicious with one key but discovered I got it from a different place. Now I realize I hadn't unactivated the previous machine and the key was probably OK, but at these prices it doesn't hurt a lot. I've successfully used old Win 7 and Win 8 keys to activate Win 10, but you have to make certain you're matching Home and Pro keys to the right activation.
What's the tool you used to check the keys without activating it?
I don't think they give that guy a day off. He answers every call.
What's the tool you used to verify the type of license associated with the key?
I think support guy didn't understand question. He keep answering that "You will have no trouble using windows" nothing if this is REALY legal (if cops show and ask You to prove it's not stolen key, will link to SCDkeys be enough, or microsoft will say "they didn't had rights to sell that, and You need to re-buy real license")
This was astonishing to me and saved me a ton of money. I just built my second PC from scratch (my old one couldn't be upgraded to Windows 11) and your video came across my UA-cam feed. I went to SCDKey and purchased a Windows 10 Pro key (and used your discount code) and used it to activate a new copy of Windows 11 Pro. Worked like a champ. Amazing information. And to get Windows activated for such a pittance of money was awesome! Thanks so much!
@@RavenHart-wh3jo well sorry if it comes across that way to you (like a bot). I am a real person and I meant what I said.
Mate, I've brought and installed more than 15 Win10 Pro and a few Win10 Home keys in the last 18 months from them since following your channel. I've only ever had 1 bad key and it was replaced within 5-10mins of contacting their on-page bot. Couldn't say a bad word about them. Cheers from NZ 👌👌🙏🙏
What sites did you buy off mate?
@@papayoda8606 From Bryan's sponsor bro. vip.SCD keys. Can't beat them.
Thanks Brian. I'm glad you did this video as I don't think it's been done by any other content creators, at least not recently for sure.
At 8:20 I realized that this video is just an ad for the company
I have used SCDkeys after watching Bryan's videos, without any issues. Side note I do remember an old LTT about Windows keys, and from what he explained (and I couldn't be bothered checking) North America is a different licensing to say Europe & Australia, etc. My take from that video is these "types" of keys are legal everywhere except North America. So totally legal and legit depending on where you are.
They aren't illegal in the US by the way.
That phone call was golden
Great video. Thanks for sharing..
What was the software that you used to check the keys though??
5:50 the face he makes here when he is told this is priceless
I bought a license today and it was almost $20 US. Activated just fine.
Like Bryan, I've used SDCkeys for many years now. Every key has checked out as a retail or OEM key based on which I purchased (reselling used PCs or personal rigs). The keys always activate, and none have been deactivated. Reactivating the retail keys due to hardware upgrades has never been an issue. Systems I've sold with these keys have never had an issue I am aware of.
Whats the difference between OEM and retail?
@@danielbotelho7854 Retail keys can be moved to new hardware. OEM keys are tied to the hardware when activated. With extensive hardware updates/changes and using an OEM key, you may have to buy a new key. With retail, it should allow activation on the new hardware but you might need to call Microsoft for activation.
@@redflameout so, retail is always better?
@@danielbotelho7854 From the aspect of being to reuse the key, yes. But the retail keys are much more expensive then OEM.
@@redflameout i found 1 Key of Windows 11 pro retail for 14€, unless its fake
I use their keys, especially on my VM's with no problems at all - they're great value.
The only issue I've ever had was before I linked the Win10 install to my Miscrosoft Profile. The key activated after I bought it, the problem was when I reinstalled Win10 about 6 months later it said he key wasn't valid and failed activation. A call Microsoft sorted it in about 10 mins. However, since linking my Miscrosoft account to the Win10 install I've not had this problem.
As a long term (Windows 3.1) Windows user, I have been around the block a few times. I purchased a key, based upon this video recommendation, and it DID NOT WORK! Installed a new motherboard for my daughter, all other components remained the same. The key I purchased would not activate...they tried to blame my system for the failure of their key. Requested a refund, they promised to refund with 24 hours, even though they took my money in about 24 seconds...we shall see if they do. I paid via PayPal, so if they do not, I will escalate the case to PayPal...
I expected some high class professionalism from a Microsoft Support call lmao
Nah, you only get that if you're a high dollar customer ($100,000+ a year) or if you get the odd really good rep. I get my best luck calling at night so I get the Chinese call center. They usually do an awesome job.
I would like this to be researched further. My concern would be buying a Windows license that is stolen.
Years ago, I did some research and according to Microsofts own website, there are Window keys that are blacklisted because they have been stolen from Microsoft servers. So once installed, eventually your copy of Windows will be useless.
But here we are, where Windows 10 is free and fully functional, minus the watermark. But if you wanted that watermark gone, you have 2 options, pay for a key or find a program that will simply take the watermark away. I've come across such a program before, but never used it.
But the problem with buying a key is, you want it to be legit, as not to feel like a "pirate". Now buying a copy of Windows retail is expensive. So people tend to turn to Ebay or wherever they can to get it as cheap as possible. But there are those looking to take advantage.
Which is why Windows 10 was free in the first place. To stop pirated copies. Anywho, so it would be interesting to see if blacklisted copies of Windows are being sold on any website. And if there is a list of authorized sellers/resellers that one can view. I know alot of software companies give money to people that report those that sell pirated copies of their products.
So the last question is, why, if the keys are legit on Ebay and other sites, then why does Microsoft and other websites still sell retail keys at retail price?
The ones you're talking about are volume license keys, which is not what scdkeys and a lot of eBay sellers are selling
Im just a dude on the internet who got tired of seeing the Activate Windows watermark. I stumbled across a site selling keys, but questioned how legitimate the site was. While looking I came across this video. The site he used was different then the initial site I found. I decided to give it a shot. After all it was only 15 bucks. Much to my skeptical surprise, its a genuine key lol the discount code in the first link in the description still works in 2022 also. Dont be a broke ass and just buy a key and get rid of the annoying watermark
What software were you using to check if it was a valid license?
I wanted to know as well, but if you wanna try yourself because I got curious about my eBay key I was using for over a year on this pc.
Just open command prompt as admin & type slmgr /dlv It will open up a little window that will give you those details.
Amazingly my eBay key was a retail key! I couldn't care less as long as it works honestly.
But I'm kinda surprised is all haha.
Mind you the method I mentioned only tells you about the computer your on.
It's more about how they obtain the keys. The charge is that companies use stolen credit cards to purchase the keys then resell them.
That or buying a legit key that's already had most or all of its possible activations used.
Ms care jackshit about how you obtain them I think.......they are so big they do care less....
I don't think anyone said the keys weren't legit (ie they would show as genuine and authenticate) but they aren't legit (ie obtained or sold legitimately for various reasons)
I use kms so I don't care but IMHO if you're going to steal the keys (ie get something using less than legitimate means) just steal them completely and be honest with yourself. If you're getting a $200 OS for $4 something is not right and you know you're wrong.
@Desktopia Ms really doesn't give a shit after windows 8 how you obtain it their copies esp personal use...gone the days when they detected the keys and gave you those not genuine shit... been using the cheap keys, workarounds since 2015...never get flagged..Ms knew that moving fwd, selling OS won't be that profitable anymore.... getting your behaviourioul data will.. .. because Ms will always logging your telemetry data/data usage.... for instance, what apps u use, whats browser use open, tabs, websites etc.... and sends those data to their servers.... Bernacules Nerdgasm has vids about this in one of his live vids...
@@JdMetal If selling OS is not profitable, Microsoft should just open source Windows like Linux is currently. But no, it is still proprietary OS used for spying by the NSA.
There are two different types of OEM keys. Firstly are the OEM keys embedded into the motherboard of the laptop or desktop by the manafacturer the name will be [ OEM_DM channel ], this key cant be transfered to a new pc. Secondly there is another OEM key with a cd and COA, the name of this OEM will be [OEM_COA_NSLP], this key can be transfered to a new pc like the retail, but the only limitation about this second OEM version is that, its only available in certain countries due to its consumer rights law
The common OEM keys are SLP [ SYSTEM LOCK INSTALLATION] which does not need a key when installing windows, the second one is NSLP [ NON SYSTEM LOCK INSTALLATION] which acts like the retail.
Doest anyone know how I can get genuine windows 10 pro under $15 ?
Just get an old windows 7 product key from old laptop or desktops it will be printed in the sticker type it activate it for free .
Bryan, you gotta understand that a Windows license is valid ONLY if you have an invoice for it. No matter what the license type it is, you're not allowed to transfer the key. There are some exceptions, but it's not allowed to sell a key. OEM keys can be sold with the machine they were sold with.
Retail keys cannot be sold, since you'll need an invoice. You also need to receive a CoA.
Retail keys, while being sold for money yes, don't actually COST windows anything to make. It doesn't cost them anything other than paying someone to develop the key. So, They can often sell keys like this in bulk to large corporations who need thousands of computers. Windows sells them keys at an extremely liquidated price like $5/per at 2000 quantity. Windows makes 10k in a second and that company uses maybe 1000 of the 2000 keys. It works out for windows because they make 10k, and it works out for the company because they get 1000 computers operating windows for 5k when if they were to buy individual keys for each it would cost waaay more. They then just sell the extra keys off to a guy in his garage who redistributes them for cheap! Think of it as just buying a "used" key that was never used.
@@DirtBlock223 yea, sure understand the point, but then the other point is that this redistribution of keys from those 2000 keys to 3rd party outside of the agreement between the company and microsoft is not allowed and therefore making those 1000 unused keys (within that company who originally purchased them) non-legit in 3rd parties possession and use of those keys. but then as shown in this video, microsoft customer service responded that you really don't need to worry about that as long as the software is shown as activated and functional........ so ambiguous.....
Just tried both single and double key links, and the price is not 12 and 18, but 19.65 and 30.92. However more importantly they are OEM Keys as per scdkeys sites' item description, and also has a line "This product DOESN'T support upgrading directly from the Home system to Pro system, please download and install the Windows 10 Pro". A retail key should allow an upgrade.
Finally it worked thanks to www.youtube.com/@dswonderful/community
I like some of the transitions, but sometimes they're a bit too much and are seemingly random. Since we use these persistent elements that transition across pages to indicate some kind of relationship between the previous and the next states, some of your transitions confuse me because I can't immediately see what the relationship is.
For example 2:23 of the selectable tiles (which weren't selected) transition into being two switches... does that mean anything? are they related in some way? I see this as random and a bad use of the design language. However, at 1:14 I like the transition from switches to the ticks on a paper, that makes sense to me. Epic presentation tho
I remember when XP came out. I wasn't really interested in running XP (I was happy with Linux/Win2k) I would go into retail stores and look at the display computers. I would write down the numbers on the Cd key sticker and use them.
@Pet your cats it's probably because not all games support Linux. So you need to have windows as dual boot. Either that, or he sold them on eBay or something like that.
Same here man... But I bought 2 for me and my wife, it already for 3 years and working just fine.
Pretty interesting, brother!
I got my OEM key when buying PC 9 years ago. It says Win 8 OEM on sticker. Using it on 3rd upgrade. Worked fine on Win10. Works on fresh install of Win 11(all new parts, fresh system, offline account).
Supposedly, the OEM licenses do not transfer but for me they work without problem. With automatic activation, without calling.
I believe having a few devices activated with such key on a single network will not alarm Microsoft. But it'll be a whole different situation using same activation method in a corporate environment with 100's or 1000's of devices.
The issue with gray/grey market keys is how they're obtained; it is NOT about if they work or not. Gray market keys are generally speaking "legit" in the sense of them being real keys however the big difference is that the way they're obtained is usually by means of a stolen credit card or stolen from a legitimate purchase. While this is mostly about game keys, Polygon made an in-depth article about it back in 2015 where they directly interviewed the people they were getting their keys from: www.polygon.com/2015/2/9/8006693/the-truth-behind-those-mysteriously-cheap-gray-market-game-codes
Moreover, there are multiple videos online, especially from Inside Gaming who did a similar deep dive into this subject, that explain further about how these keys are generally not obtained via legal means.
I genuinely love your stuff Bryan, but this has been a sticking point with me for a while now. I know you mean well but gray market resellers are notorious for promoting criminality like this purely from their own business model. From a purely logical standpoint, how else are they able to get _this_ many keys at such a low price point? Microsoft doesn't just send out keys for cheaper like this even when you account regional price differences.
Finally, I just want to be clear that if you wanted to do a video like this, then you need to make sure you have as little conflicts of interest as possible. Having the very thing you're investigating sponsor you like this is arguably the single greatest conflict of interest you can have. If there's money being exchanged or even communication with the person you're investigating while under the umbrella of creating a promotion out of it, then it cannot be neutral in any way. I truly believe you did this out of a sense of trying to help people but what you're promoting is genuinely harmful when it comes to supporting criminality with these keys. It isn't about cutting into microsoft's profits; it's about not letting people continue to get money by using these stolen cards or scamming methods.
This issue is mostly about platforms trading the keys, in this case ebay / g2a / kinguin. Not as much for SCD-keys as far as I know.
Furthermore, there are methods for obtaining windows keys cheaply, these are generally not credit card fraud, but rather sourced from places not for general retail.
It's not true for these keys (atleast I assume not). They're still not legit but they're so cheap because they're OEM licenses which Microsoft sells to OEMs and verified resellers for pennies per key in large volumes. The thing is that these resellers aren't supposed to be selling OEM licenses to individual end users. They're meant for system builders and, while they'll activate, unless you're building a system for the express purpose of selling it on (and in doing so becoming responsible for providing support to the end user instead of Microsoft, as per the system builder licensing) using these keys is a violation of the licensing agreement. Whether or not Microsoft actually gives a shit is another thing entirely.
@@qlum I tried looking at scdkeys (and vipscdkeys) and I couldn't find anything legitimizing that kind of buying on their site
@@meatsafemurderer7743 Do you happen to have a source on that? I tried finding more info related to OEM licensing but nothing like you described came up
@@purplegill10 Unfortunately I don't. The licensing agreement isn't exactly public IIRC. The only reason I know this is because I used to work in a IT store and we were actually permitted to use both OEM and refurbished keys (on systems we built / refurbished respectively) and so actually had access to the licensing agreements. It was pretty restrictive. I think you can find older versions on wayback machine.
I got multiple keys from eBay, the pc I am on now has had it for a year & no issues... I opened command prompt & typed slmgr /dlv it told me my key is Windows 10 Pro & it was a retail key!
This isn't my only PC with a eBay key, but... I don't much feel like turning them all on & checking.
I know I had one eBay seller the last time give me a key that wasn't accepted by Windows & had some sketchy alternative way of making it activate... I got my money back on it from eBay.
It's getting harder to find "legit" (spoken loosely) sellers on eBay for keys, I may consider this method...
But I am very much surprised this PC has a retail key!
Honestly I don't care if it works... Still nice to know!
What tool / application are you using to check the keys and get information about them?
Nothing checks them other than trying to activate them. Some apps can tell you the license information, but nothing beyond that. eg "Microsoft PID checker"(it's not made by Microsoft), as the license type can be interpreted from the numbers/letters.
In the Webpage 8:34 it's OEM key but he is saying it's Retail key
Indeed,
And with a OEM kay you can get trouble if you change some hardware. So with a different CPU or motherboard you could be having to buy a new key. Instead of the retail versions.
And I thought I was the only one who noticed that.
Hi Bryan,
I have used SCD-keys a few times now I only purchases windows 10 pro keys and find your recommendation well founded!!
Only had 1 problem which was not a bad key problem but the wrong instructions being provided because of a weird OS set up on window 10 home. That was sorted out with the correct information within 30 minutes from customer support.
"If windows is activated on this computer, you are Ok. Don't worry about it." What he didn't say is, "Until Microsoft deactivates keys that have been recorded with mass activations. Then your computer will not be Ok. But for now, sure, why not."
Except that they never have, they're already basically been giving away WIndows home for free anyway.
I prefer G2A, they save your keys linked to your account for easy access later and have never let me down, albeit a little more expensive. Tried SCDkeys and at each stop of the sale process it was telling me a different price, first 2 different prices in USD and the last one in euros, had to make an account with fasterpay as well. Just seemed a little dodge. G2A much cleaner and easier.
Used it. Worked. Will update if status changes. 15 USD with promo code. Was OEM not retail tho. Im fine with that at the price.
Are the keys still valid
me with a 2 dollar windows key:
Damn you ... now I am jealous
Where did you get it from?
Hey, I stole a Porsche. I took it to their factory and asked them if it was a real Porsche. Yep, they said, that's a Porsche. Cool, I must be legit!
It's all silly at this point. For MS these days, your user data is the product, not the OS. Cracking down on the freeloaders would cost them more in the end.
which tool you are using to check the details of keys ???
SCDKEYS always works for me no troubles, solid option especially with the tech yes discount codes
Prices seem higher on the site than in the video, even with the discount codes.. Not sure why, considering the video is only 2 weeks old
so then where do they get the keys from?