I haven't been to IRM for at least 9 years, and it is only a few miles from my house. I pick up horse feed and supplies just up the road from it once a month and got to see this engine chugging along, and have some video I took of it. Love steam engines!
I was there on the 10th, cabbed the SP 2-10-2, and saw the guys lubricating the journals before the move. I really hope they get a good cosmetic restoration after all those years of harsh weather.
Parallel Music with the size of IRM and the fact that IRM already has 2 operating steamer with a 3rd on the way makes the 975’s chances to operate almost nonexistent.
It's disgraceful that it was allowed to decline so far. I just moaned seeing pictures of Santa Fe 2925 (2926's sibling engine), she was allowed to be vandalized and looted for years and until very recently was just left on a siding covered with graffiti. They've finally cleaned her up a bit IIRC, but she'll need a HUGE amount of work just to make her a pleasant visual display.
This video is really emotionally conflicting. When you only see the rusted locomotives it's sad, but then you see the fully operational one and it's happy again. I'm glad they used a steamer for this, it would've been really depressing to watch if a diesel was shunting them around.
Luckily that museum tries to preserve these kind of engines. And if an engine can’t be salvage they’ll typically put them on display for people to see what they might’ve looked like.
1630 seems to have received 1522's whistle. She is definitely showing her power and strutting her stuff moving these old steamers around. The 1630 is a testament to the raw power of the "Decapod".
Yeah! XDD 1630 probably is thinking 'You lazy bag of pistons and rods! Why aren't you giving me a hand with these two? Talk about a poor excuse for a diesel. I'd have better luck asking the Zephyr to help me shove these two around.' 6847: Because its my OFF DAY. I'm surprised at you being grouchy about doing switching work. 1630: Shoving the hibernating carcasses of five others of my kind around was NOT what I had in mind! I'm gonna be left with sore rod joints and asking the guys for Tylenol Grease and Advil Lube most of the night! Its fun to do honest work, but not backbreaking switching like this! Its better when I get some speed up and keep it up with a load on me!
@@Patriot1776 You fucking people XD i love it. In all honesty, i can't wait to hear these beauties chugging again. Its one thing to have an old machine in a museum, so people can see what it looked like. It's a whooole nother thing to not only see what they looked like, but to see what they *did.* To see *how* they did it, and best of all, to see them do it again like it was yesterday. It's how i feel about the old powerplant steam engines in Britain and elsewgere. It's especially how i feel about aircraft from past ages. And its also how i feel about these grand ol' gals. Theres no fakery here. That boiler is _hot!_ that boiler is *pressurized.* Those pressure lines are sending scalding hot "dry steam" through them that would burn you worse than fire. That piston is recieving that steam, and rocketing it out, turning that pressure into *usefull work.* This is no prop covering a modern powerplant. This is a *live true-to-form steam locomotive.* And there is no better way to show the historical value of it, then to have it do what it was made for. Trains are not my main purpose in life. My heart and soul belongs in airplanes. But i do have a huge soft spot for these oldies. Huge enough to make it a definite plan b if aviation didnt work out anymore. One of my past lives MUST have been in the world of locomotives. That, or it's easy to love these things.
Kind of a coincidence that the worst preserved class of Berkshires is the one with the most surviving members, the C&O's Kanawha's, with 12 of 90 left, and the best preserved class is the one with the least surviving members, the Pere Marquette's class, with 2 of 39 left.
@@harrisonofcolorado8886 the two surviving Pere Marquette Berkshires are in outstanding condition. I don't know if 2707's rather poor condition is the same for all the other preserved C&O Kanawhas, but there's sadly a good chance it is.
@Harrison La time traveler it's because of the mechanical condition of the Kanawhas upon retirement were rough, at best, whereas the PM and Nickel Plate Berkshires were in excellent condition upon retirement.
I need to come up there and visit my old friend N&W 2050. As a young buck working summers during college at #2 open hearth at Armco Steel in Middletown, Ohio I would sneak over and check her out. Armco used her as a portable back up steam supply at the mill.
ATSF foamer i don’t see why you think it’s impossible to see that happening. That’s how 975 got cosmetically restored (yes go look at pictures of it now, best it’s looked since the 50’s).
Fascinating... They need to get a couple of these beautiful old locos back under steam! Ole Frank at the throttles LOL - 5:03 You could see that wheel on leading truck slightly frozen up - 6:29
It is somewhat heartbreaking to see an engine pushing whats left of his own kind because they are corpses. More often than not i see engines meeting the torch so unceremoniously. I can at least be thankfull that they wont meet the torch just yet. As i somewhat believe that these engines have souls, i cant imagine pulling the corpses of my own kind...maybe even my comrades, down the line. May steam live on in our hearts and may the beauty of these gentle creatures forever leave thier mark on us. Amen to that.
I always enjoy coming here. I hate seeing the rusted hulks of steam but, at least these cats grabbed em up and at least reside in sheds. Ya gotta hand it to the multiple volunteers that make this whole place happen!! Thanks guys/gals
Nice to see a steam engine moving the other old steamers! Does anyone know the number of the 0-6-0 that was moved with 8380? the same question for the 2-6-0 at 23:28 Why are they moving the old steamers from the "Scrapyard" to the display shed? are they re-doing the trackwork of the "Scrapyard", or are they actually going to start repairing some of the engines?
MrBnsftrain - The 2-6-0 at 23:28 is Illinois Central 3719. I actually couldn't find any build info on the 0-6-0 that moved with GTW 8380. I tried IRM's equipment list and everything but I couldn't find anything with a resemblance. I'm actually just as curious to know what it is as well. I'm honestly not sure why these engines were moved to the sheds. Me and my friends' best guesses are that they're being given new homes because there's suddenly enough space, or that IRM plans to work on them in some way and that they'd rather have them indoors for that sort of work.
The 0-6-0 is a 2-6-0 from the Thompson Winery. The pilot truck was missing when acquired by IRM in 2008. It is the only wood burner on the property and the current roster has it listed as Lee Tidewater Cypress #18; built by Baldwin Locomotive Works in 1920; construction number 53234.
Bri Kapp (i know 1 year ago) I personally love the *Diet* RC cola, since I love diet soda and diet RC is rarely found anywhere I love IRMs restaurant, I just hope they restore the section of bar
They really need to give those engines some love. They shouldn't be in that bad condition, and be neglected to to just rust away until they become scrap metal. Theres a lot of history in those beautiful machines, show them the love and respect they deserve and fix them up.
when newer locomotives like the trains today started to take the era repairing these engines wasn't beneficial anymore so buys a new engine was their way to go the left them in the yards or where ever not to be touched again not thinking it could be vital
My great friend Robert Sinise was the one who cut up the Jensen locomotive 5629 under contract for Luria Steel after the court ordered the destruction of it in 1988 or so. IRM tried all they could to get it out of Metra in 4 or 5 large chunks on lowboys. They had the means to do it, but the Federal Automotive Dismantlement Act was the pin on which the Federal Court turned to deny this method. I think it was a pretty loose interpretation of that law, which centers on titled vehicles and permitted methods of transfer of ownership and disposal at the time. Sad time indeed! Rob died about 4 years ago. He was the first cousin of actor Gary Sinise!...........................I had contact with another sad episode for IRM when they tried to salvage the old grain-freight dual - purpose boxcar over in Metropolitan Sanitary in Stickney. I worked in there during the scrapping out of the old chain systems in the sewage handling area. I actually could have purchased this car through the salvage company with the deal, but it was a little more than I could handle to try to save it. That car was a time-warp item! Just the way it was before WW1, all there and unchanged! Sitting directly under Central Ave. overpass for god knows how long, on its wheels! IRM ended up getting it, and they hit a bridge on I-90 Tollroad on the way to the museum, and just about destroyed it when the lowboy went under. I think it continued on to the museum, and I think it may remain there. They may have tried to restore it, but I am not sure!
The 0-6-0 with no number is Lee Tidewater Cypress 18 and is missing it's front truck. The objective of this move was to place IC 3719 in Barn 9 for storage out of the weather. Also, as the groundman for this move, the initial move of the 975 And 2707 into track 94 was not unsuccessful. We needed to shove the DDA40X further into the barn so 3719 would fit. We did not want to take 1630 more than a few feet into the barn and did not want to push the DDA40X with 3719. When we put 975 and 2707 on track 92, it was just to get them out of the way. They were later put back on the steam leads.
Sorry for the late response, but thank you very much for sharing! I will update the description to coordinate with what you said. Awesome work you guys did here!
I don't care what you say I would want to restore any grand trunk western locomotive in there for example gtw 6323 hasn't ran since its last run leased by the New York central in 1961 last locomotive to run under gtw ownership
Grand trunk western Railroad channel soon, it will be restored, new top speed up to 190mph and it can travel up to 160mph on the high speed lines in north America/america/USA/AKA: The United States Of America/United States/United States and it's restoration will be completed in 2021
the Grand trunk western P-5 class 0-8-0 in this vid last ran in 1980 for Northwest steel and wire over 12 of the locos survived making them the class of 0-8-0's with the most survivors. They kept the locomotives regularly maintained until they retired them. Which would make it a good candidate for restoration to operation, and for the fact it is neither too big or too small for a rail museum. Goldilocks engine. Its too bad none of the big Indiana Harbor belt "Yard goat" 0-8-0's survived.
I wonder what conversations they must be having. "There's no hope, look at my state!" "I'll never run again." Then 1630 must reassure them they're at the best place for old locomotives in the states, and to not give up just yet.
Now THAT'S what I call Patina! Esp on that little 2-6-0 number towards the end. I love that way 6847 looks, almost so much that I hope they just clear-coat her like a rat-rod.
Grand trunk western 8380 looks to be in very good condition for a restoration, that's a very sad looking little 2-6-0 with no pilot truck and a sagging cab.
3:20 what is a southern pacific locomotive doing in Illinois. I get they ran near there I just thought they would be at the CA railroad museum or just a museum in California or Nevada.
The Southern Pacific had 2 passenger routes between Los Angeles and Chicago (Golden State and Imperial). Those trains had track rights on the Rock Island from Tucumcari, New Mexico to Chicago.
Around the end of the nineteenth century or the first of the twentieth, some friends were talking about how it seemed to them that nothing could stop steam-powered vehicles - railroad locomotives and steam ships - not even hell or hight water. "Then I realized" one of them wrote later "That's what makes them go - Hell and high water."
You're probably thinking of #3040, an N de M Niagara which still survives. He's probably referencing the New York Central Niagaras, of which there are none left.
It is because the President of the NYC wanted them all scrapped so there would be no connection to the past under the NYC name and he was considered a Genius I guess he wanted to show off the Modern Diesel era. I am sure that there were many online communities that would gladly have taken a Hudson or Niagara for a "Park Engine" Keep in mind there really weren't any rail museums back then. The only reason that 2 Mohawks still survive is by pure default. 1 was purchased by T&P to replace a heavily vandalized park engine that they had donated that was then scrapped because it was badly damaged, The NYC Mohawk was then disguised as a T&P Locomotive to replace it.The other one is because some NYC employees at a complex in NY Rumor has it that they Hid a Mohawk at that location that was to be scrapped. Nobody in NYC Management discovered it for years by then it would have been bad PR to scrap it and was donated. I think that is the one in St.Louis.
In a similar story a group of rail fans were attempting to have donated the engine that powered the last Illinois Central Steam Powered Train. It was one of their very nice Berkshires #2613 It was used to power an excursion in KY around 1960. They wanted the IC to donate it but they held firm because they wanted the whopping sum of $5000.00 for it. The rail fans did not have the money so it ended up being scrapped.
IRM really needs to get those scrappy looking engines back to a good condition, maybe even get one of them running. They could probably make a good amount of money by using 2707 on steam excursions.
Yes it is, but also very expensive and very inefficient. For every mile the Steam engine runs, the diesel can run 10 or more per $1. Now if they could find an inexpensive source of fuel to heat the water, a way to recycle the water, and a means to carry enough fuel and water for long drives, that would be awesome to see.
@@acdii will they could switch to oil burning steamers and that would make steamers more efficient then before but then maintenance costs would be alot lol. I do love steamers more than diesels
Yes but the oldest steam engine locomotive that is running today is the cannonball from petticoat Junction it’s America’s oldest in locomotive that running today
It's one thing to have an old machine in a museum, so people can see what it looked like. It's a whooole nother thing to not only see what they looked like, but to see what they *did.* And to see *how* they did it. Sure you could watch an old video. But why do that when you can see them in live action. To see them doing what made them special with your own eyes. To hear it with your own ears. To feel it, to smell it, and in some cases to even taste it. A video does not convey the radiating heat from a hot boiler that you can warm your hands with 100 feet away. A video does not convey the deafening multi-headed whistle assembly that vibrates your chest and makes your ears ring. A video does not shake the ground with raw power, or huff the air like a gentle explosion when it rumbles by. And, most of all, a video, especially an old video, does not make you fall backwards from looking up high enough to see the top when you walk up to touch it. A video can never convey the magnificence of a mighty Pere Marquette as it thunders by like an earthquake on wheels. A video simply ca. Never do these machines justice.... ....but a live demonstration can... It is a huge investment, but there is no better way to preserve the historical value of something, than for it to be out, about, and running. And even better, in cases like Santa Fe 3751 and UP44, have them *working!* actually pulling freight like a proper locomotive! Return some of your investment while gaining HUGE public brownie points. This is my stance on ANYTHING of historical importance. Machines in particular. It's how i feel about the old powerplant steam engines in Britain and elsewhere. It's especially how i feel about aircraft from past ages. The DC-3. One of my alltime favorite airplanes. Some of them are approaching 80 years old. Many of them still being used for cargo!! Several former 2ww fighter aircraft are refitted for *racing!!!* thats strain on an ancient airframe! And they are just as magnificent at that as they used to be!! The frigging Ford Trimotor! Approaching 100 years old! 8 of them still fly!! And 4 of them fly actively!! (I believe 2 of them are used for small load deliveries to hard-to-reach places.) I could go on but you get the point. And its also how i feel about these grand ol' gals. Theres no fakery here. The dangers and beauties are here and they are alive. That boiler is _hot!_ that boiler is *pressurized.* it could explode and blow you apart. Those pressure lines are sending scalding hot "dry steam" through them that would burn you worse than fire. That firebox is burning hot like Satan's Sweet Black Sauna with efficiently utilized fuel. Not a smoke machine. That piston is recieving that steam, and blasting it out, turning that pressure into *usefull work.* This is no prop covering a modern powerplant. This is a *living breathing true-to-form steam locomotive.* And, as i said, there is no better way to show the historical value of it, then to have it do what it was made for. Trains are not my main purpose in life. My heart and soul belongs in airplanes. But i do have a huge soft spot for these oldies. Huge enough to make it a definite plan b if aviation didnt work out anymore. One of my past lives MUST have been in the world of locomotives. That, or it's easy to love these things. As you can tell, i love history. :)
Sorry to say this, but probably not. Anything can be restored, but you need 3 things: money, volunteers, and money. In the case of these locomotives, after spending over half a decade outdoors, a lot of money will probably need to be spent to see these things running under their own power again, but it would be cool to see, and I would especially like to see them looking better. And the Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society and the Steam Railroading Institute are looking to restore locomotives in similar condition to these. Both of these groups already operate Berkshire locomotives (FWRHS: NKP 765, SRI: PM 1225).
And I think if they did the best candidate would be the GTW 0-8-0 It last ran revenue service with a steel company in 1980 along with 12 identical ones that were saved. And it looks to have all it's parts.
Hey Ya'll...'Any truth to the rumor that ex-GTW 6323 is/was being used as a salvage "vehicle" for 6325? I couldn't help but notice that in a couple of videos I've seen, the '23's side rods appeared to be missing. Also, and since the AoSR will neither confirm, nor deny that 6325's main driver bearing problem has been corrected. WOW!!! What a shame that Jerry Joe Jacobson spent 1-2 million dollars on re-storing her to better than new condition. She ran a few times and then the bearing issue popped up and never ran again. What's up with that??? Anybody care to comment? If so, please refer to this post.
Is 2707 gonna be an arrested decay project? I mean, she looks pretty bad. Her shell appears to be gone and her cab is so rusted it would have to be totally replaced. BTW, great vid!
I'm not sure, but I like to think there's hope for 2707. There have been C&O Kanawhas that have bounced back from looking worse than that. C&O 2700, the prototype, used to look much worse than the 2707, but was recently cosmetically restored, and looks much better. But needless to say the 2707 will never run again.
2707 and all the other steam locomotive are going though restoration so they can all run I am friends with the conductor of the coach train and he told me this 2707 will be Running very soon
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man, to think these locomotives used to haul freight across the country, what a time to be alive!
Job security for the volunteers restoring these gems. Great video, thanks for sharing.
I haven't been to IRM for at least 9 years, and it is only a few miles from my house. I pick up horse feed and supplies just up the road from it once a month and got to see this engine chugging along, and have some video I took of it. Love steam engines!
I was there on the 10th, cabbed the SP 2-10-2, and saw the guys lubricating the journals before the move. I really hope they get a good cosmetic restoration after all those years of harsh weather.
I saw it a week ago and the drivers had a nice fresh coat of black paint.
Update: 975 has been cosmetically restored and is now awaiting re stenciling into S.P. livery. Looks far better than 2 years ago.
Quasimoto7 Awesome!! I wonder if it’ll ever run...
Parallel Music with the size of IRM and the fact that IRM already has 2 operating steamer with a 3rd on the way makes the 975’s chances to operate almost nonexistent.
Parallel Music There is really no point in restoring a large steam locomotives just to pull a three-car passenger train down a four mile line.
Talk about finding the jackpot, they found so many unique engines!
Hope they will restore these locomotives
With skill, patience, money, talent and vinegar!
SP 2-10-2 975 just received a cosmetic restoration during the 2019 season, and C&O Kanawha 2707 is next in line for cosmetic restoration.
@@MackeyBigBoy4014 So both are gonna be static displays?
@@MackeyBigBoy4014 Great to hear! 975 looks like It could be a beautiful old steamer.
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Seeing 2707 in person is depressing. But Im happy it can move without the frame snapping in half
It's disgraceful that it was allowed to decline so far. I just moaned seeing pictures of Santa Fe 2925 (2926's sibling engine), she was allowed to be vandalized and looted for years and until very recently was just left on a siding covered with graffiti. They've finally cleaned her up a bit IIRC, but she'll need a HUGE amount of work just to make her a pleasant visual display.
This video is really emotionally conflicting. When you only see the rusted locomotives it's sad, but then you see the fully operational one and it's happy again. I'm glad they used a steamer for this, it would've been really depressing to watch if a diesel was shunting them around.
But no, it was a fellow steamer.
Luckily that museum tries to preserve these kind of engines. And if an engine can’t be salvage they’ll typically put them on display for people to see what they might’ve looked like.
Nah mate the whole video is happy cuz they're all in a museum and not rotting in a scrapyard
they seem to far gone the rusted ones
Bobby fig
1630 seems to have received 1522's whistle. She is definitely showing her power and strutting her stuff moving these old steamers around. The 1630 is a testament to the raw power of the "Decapod".
She's smaller than other Decapods like the PRR's brutes. But still very capable!
6847 is just there like "Wtf are they doing, LET ME SLEEP"
1630: you have been sleeping for years so its time to GET UP!
Yeah! XDD 1630 probably is thinking 'You lazy bag of pistons and rods! Why aren't you giving me a hand with these two? Talk about a poor excuse for a diesel. I'd have better luck asking the Zephyr to help me shove these two around.'
6847: Because its my OFF DAY. I'm surprised at you being grouchy about doing switching work.
1630: Shoving the hibernating carcasses of five others of my kind around was NOT what I had in mind! I'm gonna be left with sore rod joints and asking the guys for Tylenol Grease and Advil Lube most of the night! Its fun to do honest work, but not backbreaking switching like this! Its better when I get some speed up and keep it up with a load on me!
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@@Patriot1776 You fucking people XD i love it.
In all honesty, i can't wait to hear these beauties chugging again.
Its one thing to have an old machine in a museum, so people can see what it looked like.
It's a whooole nother thing to not only see what they looked like, but to see what they *did.* To see *how* they did it, and best of all, to see them do it again like it was yesterday.
It's how i feel about the old powerplant steam engines in Britain and elsewgere.
It's especially how i feel about aircraft from past ages.
And its also how i feel about these grand ol' gals.
Theres no fakery here. That boiler is _hot!_ that boiler is *pressurized.*
Those pressure lines are sending scalding hot "dry steam" through them that would burn you worse than fire. That piston is recieving that steam, and rocketing it out, turning that pressure into *usefull work.*
This is no prop covering a modern powerplant. This is a *live true-to-form steam locomotive.*
And there is no better way to show the historical value of it, then to have it do what it was made for.
Trains are not my main purpose in life. My heart and soul belongs in airplanes.
But i do have a huge soft spot for these oldies. Huge enough to make it a definite plan b if aviation didnt work out anymore.
One of my past lives MUST have been in the world of locomotives.
That, or it's easy to love these things.
Looks like there restoring them can’t wait to see them finished
Kind of a coincidence that the worst preserved class of Berkshires is the one with the most surviving members, the C&O's Kanawha's, with 12 of 90 left, and the best preserved class is the one with the least surviving members, the Pere Marquette's class, with 2 of 39 left.
Why are the C&O ones the worst and the PM ones the best?
@@harrisonofcolorado8886 the two surviving Pere Marquette Berkshires are in outstanding condition. I don't know if 2707's rather poor condition is the same for all the other preserved C&O Kanawhas, but there's sadly a good chance it is.
@@HHopebringer 2716 is excellent, 2700 was in pretty good condition too if I remember correctly. Sadly, 2707 looks really rough here.
I've seen all the NICKLE plate ones and they are all in outstanding condition
@Harrison La time traveler it's because of the mechanical condition of the Kanawhas upon retirement were rough, at best, whereas the PM and Nickel Plate Berkshires were in excellent condition upon retirement.
I need to come up there and visit my old friend N&W 2050. As a young buck working summers during college at #2 open hearth at Armco Steel in Middletown, Ohio I would sneak over and check her out. Armco used her as a portable back up steam supply at the mill.
My friend works there he is personally working on the small 0-8-0
Bull crap
ATSF foamer i don’t see why you think it’s impossible to see that happening.
That’s how 975 got cosmetically restored (yes go look at pictures of it now, best it’s looked since the 50’s).
@@quasimoto7662 can you post a link if possible because I would enjoy to see what it looks like now
Matthew Wilson just look up T&NO 975 and you’ll find it. Doesn’t take long at all to find it in images on google
those poor babies.
I also hope the ol Santa Fe and big Blue Diesel are ok too, those poor outside babes had so many leaks, wasps and rust.
stupidrelaoded wasps? Like bug wasps? How would that happen?
@@shanemyoutubeshit some bugs can eat metal.
TheExtremeGamer That’s pretty scary tbh
Those locomotives creak & moan more than I do in the morning!
23:06 That 109, my BHC candidate!
I hope someone does something good to that SP 2-10-2
About 6 months ago I was there and I saw they repainted the drivers on SP 975.
Well it looks good now. Go on Facebook and check the IRM steam department. Looks sharp.
Agreed
Glad to see the cosmetic restorations progressing.
Soon, these poor girls will be restored
@Chiggy Piggy’s Railroading and Stuff what lies
Restoration does take years, though
SP 2-10-2 975 just received a cosmetic restoration, now C&O Kanawha 2707 is next in line for a cosmetic restoration.
The sad thing is that I ask a worker there and he said that they are not going to be restored but they can it's just so much money
@@tjprptchable imagine if they restore SP 975, then it would operate again
@@anasiacameronelijahedcpndc4324 never say never. And should #1630 ever do down they will want another working steam locomotive I'm sure
I never knew 1630 performed switching maneuvers!
Hes a switching engine and is a freight engine
*FYI: Wiki says **#1630** is over 100 years old!!! Go, Baby...*
Frisco 2-10-0 #1630, switching some Steam Engines inside the Museum and the rest of them awaiting for restoration.
Fascinating... They need to get a couple of these beautiful old locos back under steam! Ole Frank at the throttles LOL - 5:03 You could see that wheel on leading truck slightly frozen up - 6:29
They only have a mile of track. They will need to build more before anything bigger then 1630 can run.
It is somewhat heartbreaking to see an engine pushing whats left of his own kind because they are corpses. More often than not i see engines meeting the torch so unceremoniously. I can at least be thankfull that they wont meet the torch just yet. As i somewhat believe that these engines have souls, i cant imagine pulling the corpses of my own kind...maybe even my comrades, down the line. May steam live on in our hearts and may the beauty of these gentle creatures forever leave thier mark on us. Amen to that.
I always enjoy coming here. I hate seeing the rusted hulks of steam but, at least these cats grabbed em up and at least reside in sheds.
Ya gotta hand it to the multiple volunteers that make this whole place happen!! Thanks guys/gals
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1630 is a hero fixing the abandon trains at his tracks
Nice to see a steam engine moving the other old steamers! Does anyone know the number of the 0-6-0 that was moved with 8380? the same question for the 2-6-0 at 23:28
Why are they moving the old steamers from the "Scrapyard" to the display shed? are they re-doing the trackwork of the "Scrapyard", or are they actually going to start repairing some of the engines?
MrBnsftrain - The 2-6-0 at 23:28 is Illinois Central 3719.
I actually couldn't find any build info on the 0-6-0 that moved with GTW 8380. I tried IRM's equipment list and everything but I couldn't find anything with a resemblance. I'm actually just as curious to know what it is as well.
I'm honestly not sure why these engines were moved to the sheds. Me and my friends' best guesses are that they're being given new homes because there's suddenly enough space, or that IRM plans to work on them in some way and that they'd rather have them indoors for that sort of work.
The 0-6-0 is a 2-6-0 from the Thompson Winery. The pilot truck was missing when acquired by IRM in 2008. It is the only wood burner on the property and the current roster has it listed as Lee Tidewater Cypress #18; built by Baldwin Locomotive Works in 1920; construction number 53234.
MILW11B - Very informative! Thank you for sharing! :)
I think they will be moved in a year or as IRM will install a turntable there.
@@RunninEight it is now with the same owners as Flagg coal 87 and will be eventually restored
Added some tracks and buildings since our last visit.
The restaurant has excellent fries and they have ice cold seltzer water in the outer vending machines. I love this place!
Bri Kapp (i know 1 year ago) I personally love the *Diet* RC cola, since I love diet soda and diet RC is rarely found anywhere I love IRMs restaurant, I just hope they restore the section of bar
They really need to give those engines some love. They shouldn't be in that bad condition, and be neglected to to just rust away until they become scrap metal. Theres a lot of history in those beautiful machines, show them the love and respect they deserve and fix them up.
when newer locomotives like the trains today started to take the era repairing these engines wasn't beneficial anymore so buys a new engine was their way to go the left them in the yards or where ever not to be touched again not thinking it could be vital
You pay
I would love to see something get done to T&NO 975.
Christopher Zurek
SP 2-10-2 975 just received a cosmetic restoration, now C&O Kanawha 2707 is next in line for a cosmetic restoration.
Excellent footage, enjoyed watching & I Subscribed 👍😎🚂
My great friend Robert Sinise was the one who cut up the Jensen locomotive 5629 under contract for Luria Steel after the court ordered the destruction of it in 1988 or so. IRM tried all they could to get it out of Metra in 4 or 5 large chunks on lowboys. They had the means to do it, but the Federal Automotive Dismantlement Act was the pin on which the Federal Court turned to deny this method. I think it was a pretty loose interpretation of that law, which centers on titled vehicles and permitted methods of transfer of ownership and disposal at the time. Sad time indeed! Rob died about 4 years ago. He was the first cousin of actor Gary Sinise!...........................I had contact with another sad episode for IRM when they tried to salvage the old grain-freight dual - purpose boxcar over in Metropolitan Sanitary in Stickney. I worked in there during the scrapping out of the old chain systems in the sewage handling area. I actually could have purchased this car through the salvage company with the deal, but it was a little more than I could handle to try to save it. That car was a time-warp item! Just the way it was before WW1, all there and unchanged! Sitting directly under Central Ave. overpass for god knows how long, on its wheels! IRM ended up getting it, and they hit a bridge on I-90 Tollroad on the way to the museum, and just about destroyed it when the lowboy went under. I think it continued on to the museum, and I think it may remain there. They may have tried to restore it, but I am not sure!
Even if they did, where would they put it? They will most likely need another barn.
@@Band__geek They have a yard behind thebig barn
well, guys, something to get your tools on and get restoring these old steam locos need your love
8380: You stole my job mate
1630: Yeah I wasn’t built for this but I mean it’s part of my new life now
Anyone cringe at all the water (15:34) coming out of #8380's cylinder via the piston rod seal?
Where I don't see any water
@@Kai01191-t If you watch for Grand Trunk #8380 about halfway through.
The 0-6-0 with no number is Lee Tidewater Cypress 18 and is missing it's front truck. The objective of this move was to place IC 3719 in Barn 9 for storage out of the weather.
Also, as the groundman for this move, the initial move of the 975 And 2707 into track 94 was not unsuccessful. We needed to shove the DDA40X further into the barn so 3719 would fit. We did not want to take 1630 more than a few feet into the barn and did not want to push the DDA40X with 3719.
When we put 975 and 2707 on track 92, it was just to get them out of the way. They were later put back on the steam leads.
Brian LaKemper why all the water in 8380's cylinders? That cannot be a good sign.
agreed why does it happen. Rainwater?
Sorry for the late response, but thank you very much for sharing! I will update the description to coordinate with what you said. Awesome work you guys did here!
Damn, if i had the money, i'd restore these iron horses and run on a line of my own.
@Rbyte1 Stfu
Máquinas verdaderamente maravillosas y nacidas de la mente y la mano del hombre sin ayuda de computadoras. 💙💙
I can't wait to see those steam engines in steam again as like they did all those years ago.
I don't care what you say I would want to restore any grand trunk western locomotive in there for example gtw 6323 hasn't ran since its last run leased by the New York central in 1961 last locomotive to run under gtw ownership
That GTW 0-8-0's last ran for a steel and wire company til 1980! so it might be in fairly might be in good shape!
Grand trunk western Railroad channel soon, it will be restored, new top speed up to 190mph and it can travel up to 160mph on the high speed lines in north America/america/USA/AKA: The United States Of America/United States/United States and it's restoration will be completed in 2021
8380 last ran in actual revenue service for a steel company till 1980 which is why it has no missing parts :-D
the Grand trunk western P-5 class 0-8-0 in this vid last ran in 1980 for Northwest steel and wire over 12 of the locos survived making them the class of 0-8-0's with the most survivors. They kept the locomotives regularly maintained until they retired them. Which would make it a good candidate for restoration to operation, and for the fact it is neither too big or too small for a rail museum. Goldilocks engine. Its too bad none of the big Indiana Harbor belt "Yard goat" 0-8-0's survived.
This was awesome but now my ears are ringing from 1630's bell
I wonder what conversations they must be having. "There's no hope, look at my state!" "I'll never run again." Then 1630 must reassure them they're at the best place for old locomotives in the states, and to not give up just yet.
The engine behind the southern Pacific is the polar express engine
You're kidding right
@@Kai01191-t nope
the ACTUAL base of Polar Express is Pere Marquette No. 1225, a Lima N1 Berkshire locoomotive
Something Superb!! Very lovely !!! this is what i call the aged beauty.............!
Beautiful seeing these metal monsters
Fair bit of water in that piston
makes sense I guess. I thought it was rainwater dumping into the pistons as it went but that is also a good theory
Now THAT'S what I call Patina! Esp on that little 2-6-0 number towards the end. I love that way 6847 looks, almost so much that I hope they just clear-coat her like a rat-rod.
There's archive footage of a museum steam locomotive moving a ex army steam locomotive but I don't remember if it was here
Grand trunk western 8380 looks to be in very good condition for a restoration, that's a very sad looking little 2-6-0 with no pilot truck and a sagging cab.
this something you don't see everyday
Seeing C&O Kanawha move makes me happy
WOW listen to those rails creaking and groaning at 9:20
The rail said OOF!
3:20 what is a southern pacific locomotive doing in Illinois. I get they ran near there I just thought they would be at the CA railroad museum or just a museum in California or Nevada.
SP was in Illinois...
The Southern Pacific had 2 passenger routes between Los Angeles and Chicago (Golden State and Imperial). Those trains had track rights on the Rock Island from Tucumcari, New Mexico to Chicago.
By the way the wig-wag is rocking, beginning at 2:15, it looks like it was temporarily placed alongside the crossing for the filming of this video.
Paul Wassel No. It is part of the museum.
Around the end of the nineteenth century or the first of the twentieth, some friends were talking about how it seemed to them that nothing could stop steam-powered vehicles - railroad locomotives and steam ships - not even hell or hight water. "Then I realized" one of them wrote later "That's what makes them go - Hell and high water."
@24:00 on that shed wall it says 'RAILWAY CROSSING' did u guys pinch that from Australia ? i thought USA terminology is RAILROAD CROSSING .
Hey 1630? “Ya?” We’re gonna need you to move around a bunch of dead bodies for us. “Wtf”
I still don't get it WHY all these relatively lesser-known locomotives escaped the torch, and NOT ONE famous NYC Hudson, or Niagara did! Sad.
b3j8 One NYC Niagara survives in display
You're probably thinking of #3040, an N de M Niagara which still survives. He's probably referencing the New York Central Niagaras, of which there are none left.
K9Nick811 there is an NYC Survivor
It is because the President of the NYC wanted them all scrapped so there would be no connection to the past under the NYC name and he was considered a Genius I guess he wanted to show off the Modern Diesel era. I am sure that there were many online communities that would gladly have taken a Hudson or Niagara for a "Park Engine" Keep in mind there really weren't any rail museums back then. The only reason that 2 Mohawks still survive is by pure default. 1 was purchased by T&P to replace a heavily vandalized park engine that they had donated that was then scrapped because it was badly damaged, The NYC Mohawk was then disguised as a T&P Locomotive to replace it.The other one is because some NYC employees at a complex in NY Rumor has it that they Hid a Mohawk at that location that was to be scrapped. Nobody in NYC Management discovered it for years by then it would have been bad PR to scrap it and was donated. I think that is the one in St.Louis.
In a similar story a group of rail fans were attempting to have donated the engine that powered the last Illinois Central Steam Powered Train. It was one of their very nice Berkshires #2613 It was used to power an excursion in KY around 1960. They wanted the IC to donate it but they held firm because they wanted the whopping sum of $5000.00 for it. The rail fans did not have the money so it ended up being scrapped.
I'm guessing the reason why water was coming out of #8380's cylinder was simply the fact that it has been sitting out in the elements.
That's lube not water
@@raymondleggs5508 Whew!!!
All those steam engines could use a good restoration!
David Ng
SP 2-10-2 975 just received a cosmetic restoration, now C&O Kanawha 2707 is next in line for a cosmetic restoration.
Another C&O Kanawah? amazing
I hope those steam locomotives go on restoration soon.
Are those old Santa Fe, Berkshire and switchers gonna be restored? I hope so. Those are some cool old engines. Love that 2-10-0 switcher.
Frisco 1630 is no ordinary steam switcher, its the most famous "Russian Decapod" running in the US.
They only have a mile of track. That and money is the only thing holding them back.
Ghost train. These need to be brought back to life.
I never seen a 2-10-2 engine before
C&O 2707 has seen better days I hope they fix it up a little bit
Are there plans for reviving any of these old rusted over giants?
SOU6900
No. There is really no point in reviving the larger steam locomotives just to pull a three-car train down a four mile line.
@@MackeyBigBoy4014 so what's going to happen to them?
@@milissathreatt8014 probably run as unmoterized units
poor Ole girls look like they could use alot of work.
no the las thing we should do is scrap another steam loco lol
SP 2-10-2 975 just received a cosmetic restoration, now C&O Kanawha 2707 is next in line for a cosmetic restoration.
there's Number 975 and Number 2707 ask there crews to fix and steam the locomotives.
Those rusted engines looked so sad
IRM really needs to get those scrappy looking engines back to a good condition, maybe even get one of them running. They could probably make a good amount of money by using 2707 on steam excursions.
All that rusty squeekin, creakin and groanin sounds like my bones feel in the morning!
Yeah, the steam and gas too!!
What whistle does 1630 have?
Is Frisco Decapod #1630 the only steam locomotive in operation at the Illinois Railway Museum?
There is still their original Shay #5. Been there since 1966.
Never thought I see the same train pulling it’s dead brother.
Soon, 6323 will be restored in 2021
AnasiaCameronElijah EDCP NDCP AUTTP UTTP Fan1936 Which one is 6323?
@@shanemyoutubeshit I guess that big one without number or the average sized one
AnasiaCameronElijah EDCP NDCP AUTTP UTTP Fan1936
Where did you hear that? There are no plans to get the 6323 streaming up anytime soon.
Steam is way more powerful than diesel.....
Change my mind
Cameron Simison Correct I wish steam was still a conman thing and not stupid diesel.
Yes it is, but also very expensive and very inefficient. For every mile the Steam engine runs, the diesel can run 10 or more per $1. Now if they could find an inexpensive source of fuel to heat the water, a way to recycle the water, and a means to carry enough fuel and water for long drives, that would be awesome to see.
Steam locomotives are commonly seen moving fast, not slow like diesel.
@@acdii will they could switch to oil burning steamers and that would make steamers more efficient then before but then maintenance costs would be alot lol. I do love steamers more than diesels
@@matthewwilson5019 the Durango and Silverton is doing it. But mainly over safety concerns
When is your next video? :D Keep it up!
Those steam locomotives that Frisch 1630 is pushing need restoration
1630 is a beast and what's that unusual cabin on top of its tender?
its a Doghouse
Yes but the oldest steam engine locomotive that is running today is the cannonball from petticoat Junction it’s America’s oldest in locomotive that running today
I really wish that It be like this in Kahului Maui Hawaii How amazing would that be
I got a bit curious about 8380 gushing water out of the packings.
Is the Cylinder Cocks frozen rusty shut, or what is the deal there?
It's one thing to have an old machine in a museum, so people can see what it looked like.
It's a whooole nother thing to not only see what they looked like, but to see what they *did.* And to see *how* they did it. Sure you could watch an old video. But why do that when you can see them in live action. To see them doing what made them special with your own eyes. To hear it with your own ears. To feel it, to smell it, and in some cases to even taste it.
A video does not convey the radiating heat from a hot boiler that you can warm your hands with 100 feet away.
A video does not convey the deafening multi-headed whistle assembly that vibrates your chest and makes your ears ring.
A video does not shake the ground with raw power, or huff the air like a gentle explosion when it rumbles by.
And, most of all, a video, especially an old video, does not make you fall backwards from looking up high enough to see the top when you walk up to touch it.
A video can never convey the magnificence of a mighty Pere Marquette as it thunders by like an earthquake on wheels.
A video simply ca. Never do these machines justice....
....but a live demonstration can...
It is a huge investment, but there is no better way to preserve the historical value of something, than for it to be out, about, and running. And even better, in cases like Santa Fe 3751 and UP44, have them *working!* actually pulling freight like a proper locomotive!
Return some of your investment while gaining HUGE public brownie points.
This is my stance on ANYTHING of historical importance. Machines in particular.
It's how i feel about the old powerplant steam engines in Britain and elsewhere.
It's especially how i feel about aircraft from past ages. The DC-3. One of my alltime favorite airplanes. Some of them are approaching 80 years old. Many of them still being used for cargo!!
Several former 2ww fighter aircraft are refitted for *racing!!!* thats strain on an ancient airframe! And they are just as magnificent at that as they used to be!!
The frigging Ford Trimotor! Approaching 100 years old! 8 of them still fly!! And 4 of them fly actively!! (I believe 2 of them are used for small load deliveries to hard-to-reach places.)
I could go on but you get the point.
And its also how i feel about these grand ol' gals.
Theres no fakery here. The dangers and beauties are here and they are alive.
That boiler is _hot!_ that boiler is *pressurized.* it could explode and blow you apart.
Those pressure lines are sending scalding hot "dry steam" through them that would burn you worse than fire.
That firebox is burning hot like Satan's Sweet Black Sauna with efficiently utilized fuel. Not a smoke machine.
That piston is recieving that steam, and blasting it out, turning that pressure into *usefull work.*
This is no prop covering a modern powerplant. This is a *living breathing true-to-form steam locomotive.*
And, as i said, there is no better way to show the historical value of it, then to have it do what it was made for.
Trains are not my main purpose in life. My heart and soul belongs in airplanes.
But i do have a huge soft spot for these oldies. Huge enough to make it a definite plan b if aviation didnt work out anymore.
One of my past lives MUST have been in the world of locomotives.
That, or it's easy to love these things.
As you can tell, i love history. :)
That’s all wonderful, until someone gives you the bill.
Are there gonna be back to service?
Sorry to say this, but probably not. Anything can be restored, but you need 3 things: money, volunteers, and money. In the case of these locomotives, after spending over half a decade outdoors, a lot of money will probably need to be spent to see these things running under their own power again, but it would be cool to see, and I would especially like to see them looking better. And the Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society and the Steam Railroading Institute are looking to restore locomotives in similar condition to these. Both of these groups already operate Berkshire locomotives (FWRHS: NKP 765, SRI: PM 1225).
And I think if they did the best candidate would be the GTW 0-8-0 It last ran revenue service with a steel company in 1980 along with 12 identical ones that were saved. And it looks to have all it's parts.
AnasiaCameronElijah EDCP NDCP AUTTP UTTP Fan1936
There are no plans to restore these locomotives to operating condition.
This train has power!
Cool!
Hey Ya'll...'Any truth to the rumor that ex-GTW 6323 is/was being used as a salvage "vehicle" for 6325? I couldn't help but notice that in a couple of videos I've seen, the '23's side rods appeared to be missing. Also, and since the AoSR will neither confirm, nor deny that 6325's main driver bearing problem has been corrected. WOW!!! What a shame that Jerry Joe Jacobson spent 1-2 million dollars on re-storing her to better than new condition. She ran a few times and then the bearing issue popped up and never ran again. What's up with that??? Anybody care to comment? If so, please refer to this post.
Is the gtw 080 one of the ns&w survivors from there 1980 dieselization ?
Okay, I just have to ask. I've seen video a few times of the 1630 and I have no idea what the little "Cab" is on top of the tender?
Its a doghouse for the crew I think
Doghouse for the brakeman.
Old time stop crossing Gourds Very classic invention also the Steam trains is just gone way 234k 👍🧐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Will any of these locomotives be restored?
Ohhh why can’t they refurbish that SP 2-10-2 it would be really cool to see her running with 4449.
Listen to those poor 'ol rail and ties creaking under the load....
What are they going to do with that very rusty old steam train restore it to it's former glory?
duhh they will restore its cosmetics
Is 2707 gonna be an arrested decay project? I mean, she looks pretty bad. Her shell appears to be gone and her cab is so rusted it would have to be totally replaced. BTW, great vid!
I'm not sure, but I like to think there's hope for 2707. There have been C&O Kanawhas that have bounced back from looking worse than that. C&O 2700, the prototype, used to look much worse than the 2707, but was recently cosmetically restored, and looks much better. But needless to say the 2707 will never run again.
2707 and all the other steam locomotive are going though restoration so they can all run I am friends with the conductor of the coach train and he told me this 2707 will be
Running very soon