Weezer - The Real Demo
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Weezer's third demo, often referred to as "The Real Demo", was recorded in early November of 1992. Though an exact date for this session is not known, Karl Koch supsects that it took place on the evenings of November 4 and November 5. Comprised of four songs, this demo tape was an important component of the band's aggressive campaign to get signed to a major label.
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people complaining about a snare on a literal demo tape
0:00 No one else
3:09 The world has turned and left me here
7:38 Say it ain't so
11:49 Undone (The sweater song)
16:48 Bonus track
17:24 Surf wax America
In 16:48, It's just Undone / Ode To Joy Mini-Mashup
As brilliant as these early demos are, it really shows how important Ric Ocasek was to creating the signature Weezer sound with his production work on Blue.
Ric was in on that?! I can sense the power pop.
@@dirtydish6642 He produced the album! He also produced the Green Album and Everything Will Be Alright in the End
I love him and the cars but mannnn did they all neuter their sound. They wouldn't have blown up without ric tho I will admit. Had they not they'd be underrated legends of the 90s and 2000s like Built to Spill and Dinosaur Jr
wow rivers lead guitar work really shines here. You can't deny a hella good guitarists for power rock
“I TOLD YOU, NOT TO TOUCH ME!!” Haha great demo here, love weezer. Undone and Say it Ain’t So are two out of a million of my favorite weezer songs.
Damnit, I love the halftime break in Surf Wax America, I wish they worked that in on the album version
I played then song liked that before I heard the demo so I love it
Say it ain't so had so much groove in this version ! I dig it
Tennis ball can/gatorade bottle snare and all, these demos are still sometimes more pleasurable to listen to than the album cuts. I love Ric Ocasek and think he had a huge influence on what they became, and what the Blue album became, but they were so much less refined before recording for that album with his production behind it. They always had a lot of emotion, but the demos just have that much more. Ocasek (in my mind) made them like a '90 version of The Cars in some ways for a minute... They evolved heavily into Pinkerton, but the effect on the Blue album he had is a double-edged sword to me. I wish they would work some sort of re-release for RSD or an anniversary with a set of the different Blue demos combined. One other thing i want to say... I found it incredibly odd that when the Deluxe version of this was released (what feels like ages ago now), the only song that seemed to be omitted was "Thief, You've Taken All That Was Me". The full version of that song, in my opinion, is one of Weezer's best songs and my personal favorite. I wish the rest of that crunchy demo (that also features the gatorade bottle snare...), I think the only other rendition of it, would leak in full. I also hope they release it officially one day, along with pre-Ocasek Blue demos. (Even if you listen to Buddy Holly before and after... he turned it into a power-pop song and dumbed down the best parts on the demo for the studio release. They just felt much more untamed on the demo and so many little fills and bits that were removed would have fit in great on the final album.)
TLDR: the blue demos are straight-up rock-and-roll with that '90s edge.... Throw in Ocasek, and while he completely gives the band their sound for that period in time, he also kind of takes them from frenetic alt. rock group towards more of a power-pop thing with a much more laid back vibe. Maybe that's what makes Weezer what they are... the whole chilled out approach... but all of the blue demos are so raw and full of hunger. Even after Blue was a huge hit and put them on the map, Rivers quickly wanted to divert away because he felt that the songs from the album were too goofy and not serious or topical enough, which is part of where the whole concept for Songs From the Black Hole started up...... It would have been pretty interesting if they had actually finished that album and released it instead of Pinkerton... I think about the influence it may have had on the time period and bands alike...
They should’ve kept 16:48 for the outro of undone.
bro beethoven is ready to sue
@@MattRTGB bro hasn't dropped anything for a couple centuries. I don't think he cares tbh
the snare is... interesting
I kinda like it
it’s too busy, maybe if it was less loud in the mix it would sound ight, i kinda like shitty production but it’s kinda distracting here
it worked better for bands like helmet, not weezer tbh
It's that classic tennis ball can / gatorade bottle sound.
@@computersnevergoonstrike classic st anger sound
Crazy hearing Jason on here. I cant help but wonder how the backing vocals would have sounded woth him on there. Brian sounds so perfect for the blue album that I'd think it would be hard to beat.
I wish there was a reality / timeline where weezer consisted of rivers, pat, brian, scott, matt, mikey and jason
@@notanotherjamesmurphy5574 that would be a w
I ❤ =w=
I don't really understand all the comments giving Ric Ocasek so much credit for Weezers sound. These demos are very similar to the finished versions, most of the difference is the recording quality of a early 90s home demo vs a pro studio. Of course Ric helped, but the recording of Jamie from early '93 isn't a million miles away from the Blue Album
say what you want about the snare but NOT on the world has turned. that demo is better than the blue version imo.
10:16
Was Ric involved in this demo? If not, he wasn't as essential to the Blue Album's sound as i thought. Sounds like he mostly stayed out of the way.
Nope he didnt do much in the demos except buddy holly
I wonder what their first album would have sounded like if they had been signed earlier. Probably sound a lot more grungey
Everyone’s trashing on the snare tone and I’m over here trying to get that tone on an electronic drum set 😂
I'm pretty sure addictive drums has a similar drum preset, though it isn't as woody.
ugritone has some good options for raw sounding drums. mostly made for death metal and black metal but works for anything
reminds me of the St. Anger snare
Surf Wax America has always been one of my favorite songs on the Blue album, but hearing it this way, with the breakdown in the middle & the overactive drums, it rocks even more. 🤘🏼
what is your problem with the snare? sounds PERFECT to me
I love it so much. Imagine St. Anger with this snare.
@@waycnf7229it would have been way beyter
Love the photo of the band with switched instruments cuz Brian already does guitar and vocals 😂
wish they had stuff like this on Spotify
Spotify = ass
I love how it starts off with the similar intro to tired of sex
I had the same "late night with CONAN O'BRIEN" TEE SHIRT that Pat is seen wearing while seated on the bed 🛏️ during "the sweater song"
I'm not sure if you could purchase them in the rainbow room store, but I know you'd get them as swag for inconvenience and audience participation etc
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I got my shirt for standing in the back of the studio until the next commercial break whilst they were filming a segment where the masturbating bear 🐻 was seen sitting in my seat.
So 😎 cool!
"Fucking snare sounds like garbage"
Its a demo get over it
@@jacksonwolfe8517he’s making fun of the other people
the real demo fans when the fake demo releases
The snare is good, it just doesn't fit. i think if we weren't to use the blue snare, the snare from post-SFTBH songs, like Tired of Sex, or Pink Triangle, would fit. The Green Album snare would also fit
only true opinion here
Never heard that bonus medley. Cool beans.
cool pork and beans
I wish he'd kept his long hair 😭
Your wish has been granted look at him at the Hella Mega Tour 😫
Male pattern baldness is a mean mf
blue maggie walking shoes (braxton county jamboree)
I've never heard this thanks. Immediately I'm like "is this sponge? The verve pipe? Summercamp? Better than Ezra? Ever clear??" Hahaha yes. It IS VERY obvious how ric ocasek was instrumental to creating the weezer sound... And funny how they pulled a nirvana (in utero after nevermind as compared to pinkerton after blue) too trying to rebel I'd assume... Against the crisp production...
Or unless it's just that was the best weezer could do because didn't they mostly produce pinkerton themselves?
Please nuts, correct me if I'm wrong.
But yeah I like my two cents
According to the interview excerpt on Pinkerton Deluxe that was just their "real sound" and Blue was too clean. Makes sense considering how Pinkerton sounds so much closer to live shows, demos, and B sides than anything on Blue. So kinda exactly like Nevermind to In Utero, except there was no Bleach.
Have people never heard a snare without the wires?
squashball snare haha
i really like rivers' voice on say it aint so
Proof that the sound of the snare can really affect the overall song. Not in a good way here
i dig
nah pixies influence i reckon
@@chrisli5800 Could be true, but it has nothing to do with what I said 😂
st anger snare
So prefer the real almost out of tune sounding acoustic guitar 🎸 on the world has turned and left me here than wat was used on the album.... Tho the drums on 🥁 that particular track sound So weird I almost thought it was a drum machine.
Trivia, soul ... Uh no. Not soul coughing.
And ... Soul asylum... No wait. That wasn't them either...
Let me start again
Trivia!
Collective souls single "shine" uses a drum machine. Really I didn't think anythingnof it and I don't think anyone realized at the time.chdvk it out.
Anyway yeah on the world has turned and left me here, here, the snare sounds so weird and the hi hat "shhhcchh shhhcchh shhhcchh shhhcchh" sounds so artificial (tape? 📼 Or maybe EQ? ??) That I honestly thought it was a drum machine too at first
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I could get a better snare sound at age 12 with a 73 tascam and a trashcan. 😛
i like how the snare sounds :3
If Weezer signed with Matador instead of DGC