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Things To Know Before You Go Backpacking In Grand Teton National Park (Bear Can, Permit, Cost, etc.)
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- Grand Teton National Park Backcountry Permits: www.nps.gov/grte/planyourvisi...
00:00 Hey Y'all
00:26 Acquiring A Permit
04:06 My Hiking Plan
04:47 Lodging
08:27 Transportation
13:02 Why I Didn't Just Rely On Hitchhiking
13:45 Bear Canister Required
14:33 Bear Spray Options
15:48 Concerns With Flying
15:51 Fuel Canister
16:30 Knife and Trekking Poles
17:53 Total Cost For My Complete Trip (Flying, Cabs, Car Rental, Uber, Permit, Lodging)
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Fun fact: The Jackson Hole Airport is the only commercial airport in the United States located entirely inside a National Park.
I forgot that. Love flying into it. Thanks
As you know, and also shown in this video, the views while landing/taking off are fantastic.
My family did a trip to Grand Teton and Yellowstone.
Another fun fact, those two parks are less than seven miles apart. Combining both in one trip is wonderful.
Good
It's also the largest airport in Wyoming, which I thought was another fun fact.
Teton County is also the richest County in the US also
I was in the Tetons for a week in late June, and if you book a car far enough in advance you can get reasonable rates. I paid $450 for a week-long rental but I booked it about 5 months in advance. My advice: book a car as soon as you get a permit or have set dates. You can always cancel a car rental with no penalty if your plans change.
Tony is the man! He drove me around for a week last February when I was in Jackson to snowboard for a week!
I lived in Jackson the past year and Tony has saved the day for my friends and me soooo many times! Dude is everywhere, it's unreal! Love him.
Someone needs to let Tony know he’s getting popular 😂
@@suzanneng5326 Tony said he has had at least a dozen shuttles since Dixie posted his number. He is very thankful for promoting him.
Also another tip about the bear spray is ask the bellhops if they have some, cause guests buy it and then leave it with them when they’re flying out. Same is true for their leftover booze. When I worked a summer season in Glacier National Park I don’t think our bellhops had to buy any of their own alcohol! 😂
Thank you for the great info. It just tells me why I hike more in Europe now. I can fly to Edinburgh Scotland for $700, take a train to the city for $18 return, train to Aviemore for $30 return, Cairngorms National park is free, no gates, no guards, no permits and you can hike in Highlands as long as you like, you can camp anywhere you like(wild camping is legal). Simple rules - Leave no trace, don't camp near people's homes and etc. I can hike for a month or for 6 month, campgrounds are $10 on average, Airbnb rooms(private) around $50 - $80. That's just one example. There a ton of other places to hike. And in most places I won't see another human for days.
Wow! Thanks for this wonderful and wanderful information. Will have to check it out. Scotland is on my list if places to visit this is awesome.
Thanks for spending time in Britain
And how many days during that month is it going to rain??
@@jacobortega2786 My grandmother used to say to me - It is just rain. You are not made from sugar.
@@Vladimiradventurephotography worse... im made from salt and i'm definitely gonna melt!! But since it does rain so much, what's your gear? Clothing wise for the drizzle and rain
For anyone interested Jackson Hole has the most amazing and cheap bus system! I went skiing there with some friends and on the last day my legs were done! So I took a bus into and all over town and out to see the elk herds that winter there. Certainly it would not t have solved all of Dixies issues but you can catch the bus to and from the airport and all around town, which is not big to begin with. Most people on the buses are clueless tourists so the drivers are very friendly and helpful!
Flying with trekking poles: put them in a cut down poster tube inside your pack (with your tent poles too!), inside your duffel that you check. No worrying about last minute replacements for either.
What a great idea!
Great info Dixie! Thank you! You’re always helpful with your little in’s and outs of getting about and getting those reservations done.
We were on our first backpack trip the same week as Dixie also on the Teton Crest Trail. The storms were intense. Great first trip.
Thank you Dixie for working out all those logistics for us! Flying to your trailhead really does add a lot of extra steps.
That trip was a steal for 1k. Trip of a lifetime. The video of your hike was stunningly beautiful. One of the best hiking/nature videos I’ve ever seen. Thank you for sharing.
Detailed and Thorough trip report as usual! 😊 A Teton hiking trip is now on my bucket list! Thanks for the valuable intel!
Great information! Thanks for being so thorough.
Great Video! Lots of great information on how to travel and what to bring and expect! Thank you!
Great info on the video. They always are. This one was great because this is my old stomping ground. I am glad that I have connections in town with hotels. I've never had to spend that much on a hotel regardless of time of year. All the shots of downtown and driving by the elk refuge as you were headed to the park sent me down memory lane. Thank you!
Outstanding review. Love that park. Thanks for your channel.
Hey Dixie, I never respond to any videos on UA-cam but I just wanted to let you know that I am also planning to do the PCT and I recently found your channel which motivated and inspired me even more to follow through with it. I love all your videos and you view on nature and the tiniest of critters. Aaron does a truly amazing job on the editing as well :) Kind regards from the Netherlands
Dixie, your video really helped me plan my trip to the Tetons. I hiked the Cascade Canyon to paintbrush loop. The views were amazing. I saw black bears and moose. I decided to stay in the Cache house one night and you described it perfectly. I even found your entry in the visitors log. Keep up the great videos.
This was all valuable information. Thank you so much. You always have such useful information.
Dixie, THANK YOU! I love the hiking videos and the gear videos, but this video was super helpful! I know travel logistics aren't exciting, but we all have to do them if we want our dream trips to actually happen.
for some of us they are the most exciting!
Awesome videos. Always informative and also entertaining.
Brilliant! Thanks for all the details
This was full of great info! Thank you so much!
Great video that's a big help. It's crazy that each National Park has it's own process for getting permits, and knowing the actual details for Grand Teton really cuts down on the hassle/stress of it all (for the first-come ones). And I had no idea you could rent bear spray. Hope to make it out there next year!
Thanks again for the video Dixie. It's helpful to know these things. ✌️🤙👍
Fantastic video with great info. I have been to that area several times and agree with the increased expenses but WELL WORTH it for the beauty of the Tetons! :)
Great info. I definitely want to visit the Tetons and I feel more prepared now watching this video. Thanks!
Yay! Happy to hear that 😃
I just love these videos 🥰
Thinking about doing this for my birthday next year. Great video!
I feel like if and when I make my first trip backpacking, I will be so prepared because I have watched all of your videos. I enjoy watching all of them. Thank you.
You would think that, but I found there were still surprises. My first attempt at backpacking I thought I was fully prepared, but I also had issues. But don't let that stop you!
everyone learns there own style. only one way to find out! get out there and do it!
Watching Dixie’s adventures on a big screen brings the scenic views into the room.
Great Video as usual !
Excellent update
Invaluable info…..thanks so much, Dixie!
Great, thanks for some of your details. As a dreaming map planner I always (decades) looked at the Teton Village to String Lake traverse as an ultimate Grand Tetons choice. Glad to know you got there from so far away, made it happen, and pretty easily too. It is a huge downside to come so far, have a tight schedule that will have to be flexed, but need to be budget conscious. I can only say it is a bit easier if you are quite a bit more local and of course if you had only tried it back before Jackson Hole went upscale (but that was over 40 years ago).
great info! Tetons is amazing!
Hi Dixie! Loved this video (and all of your others:) The information you graciously shared is so helpful. I'm also doing a solo 5 day hike, leaving tomorrow (08-01-23) I got in touch with Tony and of course mentioned you, he's my driver to the Cashe House, airport and trailhead too. Thanks so much for your hard work and valuable documentaries!
Wow, good tip on the cabs vs Uber. you always have fantastic tips, thank you! We're going to Teton / Yellowstone next month.
I live here, and you communicated great, accurate information--applause! (I am the one who saw you in Paintbrush Canyon.) Uber is not abundant here yet- so you were smart not to count on it. Unfortunately a taxi or uber are the only other means of transportation to town from the airport or GTNP. BUT, we do have a mass transit system (START) that you could have utilized for town/grocery errands and to get you to Teton Village for the start of your hike. Also, you mentioned campgrounds-BUT GTNP went to reservation only this year, so there is nothing available last minute. I'm so happy you were thrilled with your time here.
Thanks for the video
This video sure makes me glad to live in Wyoming. (about 3 1/2 hours from the park). I visit GTNP almost every year (it's my favorite NP), but will wait 'til after Labor Day this year because of the crowds and smoke this year. Your main video of the hike was first class videography and was the final nudge to support you on Patreon. The only I missed was hearing the wheeze the pikas make when warning of danger.
So ... Dixie made a $1000 investment in our entertainment & enjoyment. I think it was worth it 👍🏻
My first backpacking trip out west was this year. I hiked the Maroon Bells in mid August. Planning a budget for a flight, rental car, hotel, and shuttle to the trail head was a bit intense. I am seriously considering hiking the beautiful Grand Teton National Park after this video simply because you made planning it much easier.
Come to the Black Hills of South Dakota next time!
And take a side-trip to the Badlands, where trails are merely a suggestion. (For those who don’t know, you can open hike in Badlands National Park because the Badlands erode naturally, so you can’t hurt them by free-hiking)
Full tutorial, with all the details. Old like to have the same for european trails 😅 Good work!
Good video as usual Dixie! I travel with gear in a duffle too. However, this year on a quick trip from AR to CO, I did “carry on” with a trekking pole. Only took one and broke it down into a small duffle. No issues going or coming. Honestly, I was afraid they would say something in Denver but it went through with a hitch.
Thanks Dixie!
Always a pleasure
THX Dixie! Good hint about the taxi, airport bear spray and the cash house!! If you don't fly in, there is a backpacking RENTAL place near the Dairy Queen in Jackson that rents bear spray and other gear. Also most airlines that I'm familiar with treat collapsible trekking poles akin to umbrellas and can be carried on with no problem.
Great video
Thank you, Dixie. I really enjoyed hearing all the details and logistics. I swear, for me, planning the trips is at least half the fun!
Loved this video! I'm planning to do this same trip next month.
One thing to note - Jackson Hole is the entire valley that the park and nearby towns are situated in. The local economy is based around tourism. That means that low cost lodging, parking and transportation anywhere in the valley are almost non-existent. Travel fares are fixed rates set by the board so don't bother shopping around for better prices. Either plan to be dropped off and picked up by a friend or relative or expect this trip to be on the more expensive end.
Good one! We all need a Tony out there. What a Godsend he was.
Just finished reading a series of fiction books about a ranger in Wyoming by C J BOX. It was great to get glimpses of the countryside in this vlog and the tarp poncho trial. Thanks heaps.
Very helpful
Planning a 3 nite 4 day trip to GTNP the end of September. Thank u for the hreat info!!
Dixie this video was clutch - namely for the yellow pad list of car taxi's. I called Andrew with UVC and he was awesome. Thanks!
Thanks again 👍
These logistics videos are the most fascinating thing to me, these are the things that my anxiety brain key on when I consider doing a trip like this
True I have a 2 day hikes that are less then an hour away that I have not done because I can’t figure out how to get back to my car with out hiking back to it. Need a hike support page.
Agreed! I have been stuck hitch hiking more than once!
Thank you Dixie!!
Hello Dixie, thank you for sharing this informative video. I'm happy to hear that you made it back safely. Did you see grizzly bear #399 and her four cubs? The best to you for your good health and safety. 🤗
In 1997 I stayed at what was called the Anvil Hostel for about $12 a night. In late August I believe. I just day-hiked there.
Drove out to the Winds from Alabama this summer. A friend of mine flew in from Whitefish MT to meet me in the Winds for a week and his car rental rate was almost twice as much as the airline ticket. I avoided the Tetons and Yellowstone this summer but the Winds were equally enjoyable, even though the trailheads were crowded.
Hiked the whole Teton Crest Trail and ended Friday. Last Tuesday we ran into a grizzly sow with twin cubs. She was 20ft away from us and we nearly crapped our pants. Thankfully she wanted nothing to do with us and she ambled on up the trail in the opposite direction. We were in line at 0415 and were first at Craig Thomas. We pretty much got the exact hike that my cousin had planned. We stayed at the Cache House Saturday and Sunday night before our hike too! It was an interesting experience. We got a Hotwire deal for the resort the final night of our trip and ate at the bar of the Snake River Grill for our celebration meal.
I stayed at the KOA just south of Jackson Hole, and since it was very cold, stormy and I was sick with a fever, I rented a cabin overlooking the river. I could cook in the cabin and had a cute porch with swing! Clean facilities. I had my own car. Cabins reasonable and camping available. Took the gondola at Jackson Village up to the crest the next day. Great and expensive restaurants in Jackson. Full car care nearby. A KOA membership is worth it if you are driving all over the west. Swimming pools in most of them, but not Jackson’s. Sob! Also booked a raft trip down the Snake River all day long at the KOA office. Had a blast! 12 eagles! This trip due to Dixie Inspiration!
In the 90's I used to have to have a home and land with all 3 Teton mountains where out my back door in view... Best way to save money is to live in the west and drive there for a week. There is also some free campgrounds in the valley.
Amazing makeup!!
I've been going there for 60 years.love it.😊💖🐶🐶 we were there in July
I’m not going hiking and still I watch every video she puts up. Since I’m an outdoorsman the information she presents is very interesting and she has great delivery . . . yes, and easy on the eyes.
and ya gotta love that accent... I'm from Georgia and I love listening to her talk... imagine that hyak.... hike to me
Very informative, please give more info on the hostel, yes when I was there in May, 300 bucks for a cheap motel, a shocker
Thanks, excellent video
Good information on what to expect in Jackson/Grand Teton. I have been through there a few times. How I would save some money. Drive my own truck the 10-11 hours to the Bridger-Teton national forest. Dispersed camping in the national forest is free. Do the backpack trip as planned or as available. Spend a few hundred bucks for gas, permits, etc. Both my wife and I could probably go for under $500. Might just have to do it. It wouldn’t be our first back packing rodeo.
Sounds like an awesome trip. It was beautiful up there..... Definitely a different world than Alabama....or Kentucky where I am.
When I was in Jackson Hole in 2018, I had been on the road hiking through Wyoming and South Dakota. I then hiked the Loop and so when i finally got to town I was smelly and dirty. So i looked for a hotel room that had a washer and dryer in it. I found one at a hotel called The White Buffalo Club. Now it was very pricey at over $500/night. But the room was a giant suite that had a walk in shower and a separate jacuzzi tub big enough for 2 full grown adults.
The staff was super friendly and they even gave me free(?) laundry detergent.
It was a great way to treat myself after being out on the trail for so long.
Always thrilled to see a post from you. Two things ...your PCT doc and your Continental Decide doc are so we'll done , I wonder if you've thought of approaching Netflix ? They are so good. Also , I'm looking to switch from my Merrill hiking shoes to trail runners . Any recommendations ? Lord 🙏 bless .... I binged watch your posts ....
I went just a week ago. I live in atl and flew same airport as you did. A good tip is the visitor centers might have unused bear spray to give away. Bear spray is a high waste product due to the plane restriction, so ask before buying. Another thing is there is a shuttle about the same cost for travel since cabs can be pricier. Also,there are a lot of camp sites around Jenny lake, so hiking from there your first night and creating a loop out of the trail is a good strategy for being flexible. I took about 2 hours getting up to paintbrush divide from northpaint brush since I initially thought east to west was the easier route. Living at sea level my whole life in GA proved that not entirely true :) the hotel I stayed at was the hostel in Teton village, $200 a night for my clean up before flying back, but well worth it. I don’t think they had AC, but had privacy and a full bed.
As usual great info, never thought about bear spray, good to know you can rent it. BTW how in the world do you get your braids to come out in even colors?
I was in Jackson last week and my car ended up needing to go to the mechanic. The bus is free, reliable, and has good coverage. I highly recommend it for in-town transport. It also has a route up to Teton village, but there is a small charge for that. I didn't go up, so I don't know how much it cost
I've been there twice - once with a planned permit and once with a walk up. Both were incredible.
Woah , what a great job you did. Thanks for sharing all this informations with us. It helped a lot .
Is there a map of the Grand Teton Loop anywhere ?
Greetings from Norway.
Thanks for the heads up on the hostel .
Did not even think of that ☹️. Did you Google hostels there ??? Also thanks for the consideration of having alt routes BEFORE u get to the permit registration !!
I a lot of people do not realize that while standing in line thinking about what to do the booking is getting filled from other resources !!!!!
And not just there.
Many parks have walk up as well as online.
Great info !! Thanks 😊
Sounds like ur really good at logistics !!!!
I suck at it. Don't much like the www world....
TO MUCH info is as bad as to little. My head's not into it.
Peace and keep on rocking the free world ☺️
Love you much Dixie!! Glad to see you're not quarantined up somewhere. Thanks for all the good details about your trip and how it works in real life 😊
Just spent 8 days in Wind River Range. I like to stick to Wilderness Areas. No permits! Hotels in Pinedale were 200$ :( An hour and a half away in Rock Springs, motel 6 was 63$ for 2 people! The national parks and support facilities near them can be a real hassle. Very informative Dixie. You have more patience than me. Cabela’s has the best deal on bear spray as Rei is a ripoff.
Flying into Salt Lake and taking the daily bus up to Jackson can save bucks. The city bus to the skiarea works well. Busy hostel there too.. Last time flew in, I walked out of the Airport, to the main road and thumbed a ride, (pre-covid), to Moran PO to get my box, from there walked up into Yellowstone Thourghfare area to the Lake. Big time fun.
I was wondering if you could possibly make a video about about how you pack your camera gear and how you film on trail.
For instance, I’ve seen you use the peak design capture clip, but how do you store your camera when inside your pack. And on one of your gearlists I’ve seen that you brought the Sony a7iii, but also a smaller point and shoot camera, which do you use for which purpose?
I would love a video that goes into the details of filming while backpacking.
Thanks Dixie. price does not sound too bad. leaving Friday the 27th of August too the 30th going camping in the Manistee National Forest here in Michigan.
In 2014 I did a supported bicycle tour starting/ending in Teton Village. After the tour was over I could have camped for free but it was rainy and it was just a field (with long grass), so I decided to get a room. I ended up near the intersection of 22 and 191. The place I stayed at was IIRC $105 a night. (after biking in 40F and rain I was glad to pay the price) It is now an airbnb (Teton Gables) and looks to be still a budget option (I just picked the first place I saw). I could have walked to Alberson's (again, rain), but I did walk to Cutty's for dinner. I got up early and got a camp site in Jenny Lake (car camp)
There may be other airbnb options in the area.
(I drove to Teton Village from SE Minnesota -- took two days)
Shoulder seasons in the Tetons are great. Very few people.
As a side note my first trip to the Tetons we were on the Teton loop and do to the high amount of snow that year we were the only ones with a permit, it was the 4th of July! Times have changed but still one of the most beautiful places in the world.
We stayed one night in a hotel that first trip and it was $155/night in 1995. My wife and I (she was girlfriend then) stayed at the same hotel 20+ years later during the shoulder season and it was $55/night.
Heading to GTNP on Sep 20. Booked camping at 8:10am Jan 6. Have Death Canyon, N and S Fork Cascade, and Paintbrush (but not Lake Holly). Will shoot for a Lake Holly permit. I couldn't see a direct way from Gondola to trail and seemed really steep. I took the under-repair Tram last time which was an easy start. We are thinking coming in on Lake Phelps for an easy day 1. Will do Static Divide into Alaska basin, then follow the Teton Crest. Lots of good tips.
Finished our hike. Tony took care of the shuttle for us from Leigh Lake Trailhead to Phelps Lake @ Rockefeller Preserve Center Rd. We hiked up Death canyon and camped in the blowdown area at the second campsite. Tuesday we climbed over Static Divide and camped at Sunset lake in Alaska Basin. Nice campsite. Wednesday we climbed Hurricane Pass and camped in North Fork of Cascade. Beautiful! Thursday we climbed Paintbrush Pass and hiked out the canyon. We camped at Leigh Lake campsite 13, which was a perfect end to the day. Beautiful beach on the lake.
This great run-down on navigating Grand Teton NP and Jackson Hole, WY on the cheaper. I am amazed as always on "it should be free" commenters. And the larger National Parks with backcountry are charging for backcountry permits to pay for the extra backcountry office staff. Love the tip about the Cash House as my years of having friends in winter to crash out in Jackson are over. the Albertson's grocery in Jackson is nearly world famous. The airport bear spray service is big deal.
You need to meet my daughter Becca (rattles). She’s completed the pct, Appalachian and cdt. She guides and builds custom backpacks.
Does she have on online place where we can see her backpacks for sale?
I did the Paint brush canyon trail, Jenny Lake and Hidden Falls in July. It was awesome!
Did you do the Moose Ponds at Jenny Lake too? Totally worth seeing moose!!
Yes I did!
It's a thing I have a friend in Ft. Collins to help out when I go to the Winds or other areas hike out that way. We use to rent a car here in Greenville SC and drive all the way to Glacier and Jelly Stone to hike. It was way cheaper back then to rent than fly back then. They did look at us strangely when we turned in the car with over 5K of miles driven for the duration of the rental. Lol
When I was at Yellowstone I wanted so badly to add Grand Teton to our trip but there wasn’t enough time. Can’t wait to get out there one day
We did that trip a few years ago, really enjoyed the grand Tetons
that's about what the taxi rates were when I hiked that trail in 2018 in September. there is also a bus option to get to the Teton village, that we used for very cheep. that is a trail that should be on everyone's list.
Interesting ... God Bless
I can’t believe it was over $100 per night for a bunk in a dorm. 😮 In Europe you’d pay like €25. I didn’t realize it was so expensive there!
Blame the billionaires who have taken over the valley. I worked up in Yellowstone for two seasons back in the late 70's and the prices there are 3X what inflation would account for, $400/night is now typical, the place is for campers and the wealthy.
In 2015, we Rv’d in a developed campground in Grad Teton and asked at nearest ranger station if they had any bear spray canisters available which they did. They were free and we carried on day hikes. Turned it back in when we left.
Thanks
We often say that the billionaires have driven out the millionaires in the Jackson area over the past few decades, so it is pricey. I live about four hours from there. The Albertsons in my little mountain town is much more expensive than other local stores. When I am in the Jackson/Teton National Park area I shop/resupply at the Smith's (A Kroger store) a little further south of the Albertsons. It has a nice vibe and most prices are comparable to home. I tend to reserve camp sites in one of the park's frontcountry campgrounds for a base camp when I travel to the park since I have a vehicle with me. With my senior pass discount the cost is under $25 a night. The campgrounds are usually well-maintained. I usually need to move around a bit since finding consecutive days in one spot is rare. My favorite area for a base camp is Colter Bay. It is pleasant and the services area (store/laundry/showers) has fast public WiFi. There are also free camping sites with hosts in the Bridger-Teton National Forest near the park if you have a vehicle and time your arrival right.
Sad that you didn't get to visit Mormon Row and see the the world famous TA Moulton barn. Talk about a great view and glimpse into what life was like 150 years ago. They literally had the mountain range as their back yard and turned their outhouses to face it. LOL
If you don't mind driving a little bit, flying into Salt Lake City is usually cheaper and the rental cars are more plentiful.