Vince said it himself, he wished he put in the work and professionalism earlier in his career. The fact he lasted so long despite starting later on the hard training tells you how much potential wasn’t realized.
What you mean his potential wasn't realized? How can he have not recognized his potential and at the same time made it to the highest level of basketball? His talent propelled him to the highest level just like that left foot when it's sticking to the court and he did those amazing dunks That was his life with his talent it propelled him. He knew his talent he knew his potential he already made it he didn't have that killer mentality see us as fans we sit back and we think these guys is going so hard and they really don't. they have natural ability. that's what the recruiters look for they don't look for the the dogs who really dogs. The dogs who got the talent those are the Hall of famers but they overpass all the dogs because they got a 30-in vertical. they jump shot a little messed up. they a little outta shape. They pulled up when they should've drove through. The pros is a fraternity.
@@slightlyworking4because "potential" is the best that HE could have done. Many people made it to the top level of basketball. Some people achieve things by being THEIR best. Others don't even have to be THEIR best to achieve the same things or even more because they are naturally gift. If they add hard work to that talent???...bro thats a whole different level of monster we are talking about.
@@SammyZane-v9cwhile you aren’t wrong, kobe himself was comparing himself to Vince and t Mac a lot because they were so much more naturally gifted than he was and he’s said that numerous times and they played the same position so yeah he was tryna beat those guys always. But it was to be applied to anybody in the league as well.
Vince Carter’s first few years were some of the most exciting NBA games at that time. He and Iverson were by far the most entertaining basketball players at that time.
The olympics was the closest we ever got to seeing peak Vince. He was angry that whole time that he wasn't even considered until someone got injured. He was eating every team alive in the 2000 olympics.
He just had a high verticle near 50inch not a floater like MJ. MJ had both thats what separates him from the pack. With a complete package no weskness. Completely strong in every part of his game.
Y’all missed the point. He saying that if Vince would have had that killer mentality he would be in the GOAT conversation. Because the talent was there. They talked about Vince like he was supposed to be the next Jordan but he didn’t have that mentality early in his career. Vince and T Mac should of been like Jordan and Durant on the same team. Unstoppable
Would’ve been if T-Mac wasn’t a pre madonna and could’ve shared the spotlight. He didn’t like sharing the shine and that was the Raptors downfall. McGrady has admitted it on camera
@@wildcat8598 He also couldn't handle pressure. That man was a literal house of cards in the playoffs. He had no excuse for how great he was for never getting out of the first round then eventually injuries piled up and it was too late. He shouldn't be in the HOF for that reason alone
@@wildcat8598he didn’t like that he was second option to Vince he felt he was better. 😴 he clearly says many of times he could of been third option with Shaq nd Kobe
Lazy is not the right word. He's not psychopathic about winning like Jordan and kobe but he wasn't lazy. That's the opposite end of the spectrum where you got guys like Andrew Wiggins and Ben Simmons.
For his talent Vince was lazy, LeBron became what people expected Vince to be and LeBron doesn't have the same mentality as Kobe or Jordan, Vince might be the most God given talent in the NBA history.
Vince need to come on the show. He'd tare Gilbert a new one for calling him lazy. The man dealt with injuries and other problems while in Toronto. There's a reason he became Vincanity again in NJ. He was the best sg in 2001.
Nah, his own cousin Tracy was equal or better than him that year and better every year after for the next handful of years. T-mac had 2 more rebounds a game, more assists per game and less than a point less per game in 2000-2001.
@amostlyreasonableguy nope, it's cool that Tmac got more rebounds but that doesn't necessarily qualify you as a better shooter guard. In that case Iverson drops all the way down. But in 2001, the guards were between Iverson, Kobe, and Vince. Tmac was the most improved player. It wasn't until 2002, 03, and 04 where it was basically Tmac or Kobe.
@kirkmcra3 everybody wants out of Toronto. Toronto's my team but no American/Canadian wants to be in Toronto. Just look at our history, any star player who wasn't international almost never re-signed. They all wanted out when they had the chance.
@@5thgearratchet shit weather, high taxes and overall lack luster city compared to big US markets +never away game youhave to deal with deal with the tsa. Can't blame them.
I get what Gil tryna say. Basically if Vince had kobes work ethic, he'd be the best cause he was more talented than everyone. Not saying he didn't work on his game, just saying he probably didn't work like the all time greats
It's weird hearing Gilbert Arenas say this about Vince Carter. Gil never had killer instinct. He was a stat-chaser who just didn't care that much about winning.
@@2Tall2ActSmallthat’s literally gils point bro … he didn’t want to be the guy but had all the tools and talent to be the man Vince did everything he did with no effort REALLY he was just that gifted !! KOBE HAD TO WORK TO TO BE THAT GOOD AND CONTINUED TO WORK WHICH MADE HIM BETTER …. VINCE NATURALLY WAS MORE TALENTED THEN. KOBE …. KOBED WORKED HARDER … I think the term lazy is the wrong word but I get exactly what gil was trying to SAY VINCE REALLY DIDNT CARE TO BE THE MAN IS A BETTER WAY IN A WORKERHOLICS EYES LIKE GILZ THAT EQUATES TO LAZY
Athleticism isn’t something you work on , you either got or don’t but you’re right about the other point I guess but so was UD so really that don’t matter
@@StuntmanBeatz313 It really doesn’t lol. Longevity isn’t made with laziness. Busts are made with laziness. That’s not what Vince needed to do. Also, Vince def had injuries lol.
@@samueldiaz6299 hey I can't be mad because the answer was the first and I believe he's the better player overall, but the answer didn't have as many finishing layups at the rim as kyrie. This is something that even AI admitted in a interview on All of the Smoke.
@@Josh_L3G3ND Al Bundy scored 4 touchdowns in a single game. But jokes aside, man get outta here. Gil belongs nowhere near the list of NBA greats. It takes more than a few memorable games to get there.
Right? People are taking this as a diss from gil but he’s right. Vince Carter was a phenomenal player, but he never was a type to like take over games or approach practice like Kobe. He just basically floated on God-given talent for like 20 years, which is crazy to say in itself.
@@Shigami-lb6occmon man, we're talking consistently. Everyone has seasons (ex D. Foxx 2 seasons ago, now nowhere to be found). Once McGrady reached his peak, nobody cared about Vince like that anymore.
I love Vince regardless of what he can be criticized for. Nasty skills, flew through the air like MJ. Closest person to looking the way Mike did when he jumped and was sideways and in the air for crazy long time. And on top of that he was a smart well spoken dude who seemed always at an even keel
No he wasn’t Vince should of been more when he did that interview with coach Thompson, after that I was like he not going to be in the upper echelon… him and Randy moss in the same boat to me.
After Vince was traded to NJ. He played for them 5 years. He averaged 27,24,25,21,20 at the age of 28-33 Vince was still good after the trade if not better. Vince averaged 28 ppg in 01-02 at the age of 24 and wasnt traded for another 5 years after that. At 25 he averaged 24.7 At 26 he averaged 20ppg At 27 he averaged 22 ppg At 28 he was traded and averaged 27.5 for NJ At 29 he averaged 24 ppg At 30 he averaged 25 ppg Tf are these guys talking about man??
@bayareaplaya6004 not really?? Lol, sure, Gil had like 3 good years in his whole career. The dude only played 3 full seasons in the NBA. Always hurt. Allstar games Vince 8 - Gil 3 Playoffs played Vince 11 - Gil 5 Rookie of the year Vince 1 - Gil 0 Slam dunk champion Vince 1 - Gil 0 Vince shot better than Gil on FG% and 3pt%. Gil is an underachieved player who talks about if he had another players skill set what he would do with it..smh
@@willread8376 gil made all NBA 3 times and he was injured lmao. He would of finished with 7 or 10 vince on made all NBA 1 time out of 20 seasons slam dunk contest? Wtf does that matter?
2000 mvp was shaq. 2001 mvp was ai. Not a single argument could be made that vince was better than either of those two. Vc was electric, and truly deserving of his half man, half amazing nickname...but come on now. 2001 ai? 2000 Shaq? Some of the best offensive weapons to touch a basketball. Ai stole a game from LA, do you really think vc is doing the same? No. Kobe said the nba was lucky ai wasnt 6'7". And Shaq? I mean just stop it. Lol. 2000s 3 peat, literal force of nature Shaq? The only way to stop him was hack a Shaq. You COULD NOT stop him from scoring if he wanted to.
Vince Carter literally almost led that Raptors team over the better coached & more talented Sixers' team. I agree that Iverson was better, but acting as if Vince wasn't in the discussion is honestly hilarious.
@@kingjaydex7464nah not a whole tier below, you trippin. Vince was one of them. The early 2000s stars 2nd tier starts with maybe Seattle Ray Allen, Steve Francis, Baron Davis, 00s Gary Peyton, honestly you could double back and say the 2nd tier starts with jason kidd or nash.
That 2001 game 1 with Allen should be in everyone top 3 all time I never seen no shit like that he literally took on prime shaq an Kobe by himself Allen didn’t even have a second choice to pass to it was like the team was a wall of defense and he was alll the offense Allen would hit shots from deep under pressure but Allen’s play style is also why they would not win the entire philosophy of Allen is to just jock he didn’t care about nothing else or no one else’s bad style of playing
If you think that a player who gave Kobe 60 and was an All-NBA performer for three straight seasons in no ways can be compared to Vince, you proved you didn’t watch a lot of basketball. You’re mad at the criticism which is valid.
@@wowsadowsa Arenas was overrated played for the wizards where he was basically the whole offense he played great for 3 years vice carter was great in 2 different organizations he also dominated playing with Tmac and Richard Jefferson and Jason kid
@@rickmccoy7369 You just said that Arenas was overrated offensively on a team that made the playoffs each of those years that also had Antawn Jamison and Caron Butler who were All-Stars and Eddie Curry who was elected to coach at least one ASG. You don’t know what you’re talking about. TMac wasn’t that guy until Orlando and Kidd drove the offense on those Nets teams. lol, go back and watch, guy.
@@wowsadowsa go look at the numbers Arenas is overrated Caron butler and Jamison were good far from great arenas took 30 shots a night he averaged over 20 points 3 times in his career and wasn’t nearly as durable Vince played until he was 40 and at a high level still well into his 30s and was much more of a complete player you obviously didn’t watch the game or your just high Arenas was not nearly the player Vince carter was he was good and he could score but so could most guys that take 25 shots a game look Nate Robison would come off the bench and give teams 40 or 50 he was 5’9 and a bench player Brandon Jennings same kinda of player Vince carter averaged over 20ppg for 10 different seasons and about 5 years he averaged pretty much 20+ 5 and 5
Vince had it drilled into him in college that he was second best . Although he was leagues better than Jamison , Jamison was considered best player in college . Still mad that the Warriors Traded him because we had fckn Sprewell😡🤬
Vince’s problem was……he wasn’t narcissistic. We praise MJ and Kobe for their mentalities and what they accomplished from it. Without calling it what it truly is…….Narcissism.
The only time in his career where I felt he was being too nice was from age 32 to 34, where he still should have been a number one option on the teams he was on, but was willing to defer to younger guys. If 33 year old Vince demands to be option 1 instead of Dwight Howard, and demands to play more than just 30 mpg to Stan Van, things may have gone differently in his year with Orlando.
No Bro if you put in the work/ preparation at or in something you’re more confident in your abilities. If things come so easy the movement you face an obstacle you lose your cool and are shaken. Like students taking a test who’s more confident the person who studied or the person who never studied?
No, that’s not it because you can be an all time great without that. See Magic, LeBron, Steph, etc. Vince was obviously a HOFer but there is no reason he should not have been on the same level as prime Kobe or T-Mac. He did not assert himself the way that he could or should have.
I understand this comment, but, I can't completely agree - if you give a super athletic hooper MJ's mentality, then you simply have MJ! Vince may have been a better dunker creatively, but in no world was Vince more athletic than MJ! And don't get me started on fundamentals, defense, post moves, guile around the hoop etc.
As much talent Vince had I agree he didn’t play like his talent showed. He really could have did whatever he wanted on the court sure he got hella highlights but wit the talent he had can score at all 3 levels an jump out the gym is insane for real
In the 99 2000 season there was a debate about who is better....VINCE OR KOBE.... AND IT WAS A MOMENT there when I thought that Vince had Kobe only because Kobe had Shaq.... But as the years went on it wasn't even close.... Kobe mentality made him surpass Vince by a mile!
@@Charles.psalms1 Kobe told Shaq at 18 years old if he wants the ball to get the rebound off Kobe's missed shot. T Mac had 2 scoring titles before Kobe even won his 1st scoring title. Iverson had 4 scoring titles before Kobe ever won his 1st scoring title. T mac and Iverson held the scoring title for 6 consecutive years. Kobe was no where to be found.
@@Charles.psalms1 Kobe's teammates even said he never passed the ball. Kobe himself said he wouldn't pass the ball. Kobe is getting all the shots he wants, but still getting outscored by Iverson and t mac.
Vince Carter .... Would still be part of the greatest team line up in any era though, because he adds something different to a team filled with greats. I mean every chief needs that one guy who is a total bad ass and can get the job done on demand. I mean he like the best of the best. 😁👍🏾💯🔥
Vince played more years in the NBA than i had LIVED when he retired. I was born in 1998 and believe me he's a prime candidate for "NBA no injuries, who's getting the mvp". Vince with injuries was dunking on players in their prime at 40. Without injuries he would've cooked everybody. Maybe not well done but medium well fs
@drewcp2012 0, but how many bums can you name with a ring? Demarcus cousins got injured 2 times on teams that won, and he got... 2 rings 🤣 sometimes the ring count doesn't explain how good someone really was. How many did AI get? CP3? Clyde Drexler? Ewing? Shaq has less than Robert Horry. Who do you really want in your lineup?
Besides being the best dunker ever for a while, Vince is #9 top 3-point shooters of all time. Dude just retired when he was 43. Gil Arenas is bugging. We all watched that man play. I have old vhs tapes in the basement of him at UNC destroying it then too.
I’m just saying the reason he’s top 9 is because of longevity, lebron is number 8 on the list ahead of Vince and we don’t really consider bron an elite to good 3 point shooter, expect for like 2 years
@@Cuhhhhhhhhhhhh exactly. He hit a lot of 3’s over his 20+ year career. You can’t casually become a top 10 individual in any professional sport. Vince is one of the best to ever play the game. The crazy thing with LeBron too is that everyone else on the list is a guard.
Cant you though? If ur a 3 point shooter and you play 20 years you're probably cracking top 10 or 15 shooters of all time. Vince was good not great. No cap
@@Wilcorankinghe doesn’t mean literally lazy you don’t get to the nba being lazy it’s not possible but he means he didn’t have that desire to be the best like the others etc
Best or not, Vince was a huge influence to basketball culture. That under the leg dunk changed the game & he had youngsters all over the world tryna do it including myself. He's legendary
VC definitely was top 3 in the league in 2000. No question about it but it’s had for me to say he was the best when Shaq was Dominating almost every aspect of the game
VC had GOAT-level athleticism in his prime ........ there is no way in hell ANYONE should have been able to guard him 1v1. and there's no way that his résumé should be void of a CONFERENCE final appearance.
@@dumisatonyjohnson8145 google : wally world (szczerbiak) mcgrady, ray allen and kobe vs bowen. he had job to do so duncan can win easy rings. To get rid of competition. Its simple trade he got suspension as an 6th option in Spurs, but best players cannot play on opposite teams due to recovery few months.
If Vince was THAT GUY they would have NEVER traded him. The skillset & potential of VC through the roof. The real life resluts are what matters. He petered out.
They traded him because he got hurt. Toronto was badly managed at that time. Nobody is sayin shit about him getting injured that's Toronto starting acting funny.... financially. Some just talkin and wasn't watching the NBA then!
@saywhatYADIG His injury wasn't THAT bad to where the Raptors would have just sent him packing. Look at how long the league stays with stars, even after injuries. I 100% agree with you that Toronto was a bad org. They were a dysfunctional, cheap mess.
They traded Vince because he demanded a trade and gave up on the team. They had Bosh at the time. In Jersey, he was good, but never was the same. He then went to Orlando to be that last piece to a championship team as they had just gone to the Finals in 09, and literally was a shell of his former self. After Orlando, he went all downhill in production. From Dallas to Memphis, Sacramento, and then Atlanta is when he never had anything to contribute except being a veteran voice in the locker room. Let's just say that after Toronto, he was never the best player since the Nets had Kidd still, Orlando had Dwight, and after Jersey, he was never a top option anymore.
Vince Carter had a few injuries and couldn't dunk and accelerate as often as we were used to or else his knees and ankles would've exploded. So he switched his game to pure shooting and became a valuable asset for any team. And still kept a few dunks in the bag for yall ungrateful ninjas
He lost his first step early in his career and could no longer drive past defenders... If you watch highlights before his injuries and after you can clearly see he lost his quickness. Still had his ups but he lost that first step. Vince also never had the heart and determination to be at the level of Kobe and MJ. He has more skill and raw talent but didn't have the discipline, work ethic and mental toughness. He was a better version of Isiah Rider. A player who got by on raw talent.
Kobe and Ray lost their 1st step and still did playoff damage in the late 00s. Vince didnt take care of his body, Ray and Kobe were gym rats to the 1,000th degree and were big on nutrition, Vince let himself go, but in a slight kinda way, its the extra that was needed. Kobe and Ray knew that.
He never said he could yall so quick to talk smack you completely missed his points. He literally said if he could have anyone's talent he would choose Vince. Just not his mentality . He could have been the best 👌
Yet somehow Vince came into league before Gilbert and out played him hmm interesting one in top 75 players all time and Gilbert can't even sniff top 250
This is why Kobe was so special. The thought of Vince t Mac and his contemporaries practicing as hard as him was something he believed out him at a disadvantage somewhat bc of their physical gifts that he didn’t possess. That turned into a drive that became obsession to not be out worked which prepared and developed his elite skillset.
@WopWopWop-bx9jb if Kobe never had Shaq he never would of had finals experience, Kobe would of just been melo. So facts are facts remember Shaq went to the finals already
Gil has to stop smoking all that free paychecks... Prime Vince was not afraid of making tough shots going at it with the best of them, when my team played his team, I worried. The only problem is Vince didn't demand more from the GM to build himself a team.
@cythefly Yeah bro, I lived there for over 20 years, I'm not talking about what he did as a player while there. Kwai did more. Vince should have done much more in T.O, but no dog in him like Kwai. His skill as a player and he had those special-ups like Jordan Is what anyone who played ball will recognize and love.
@@emperorvalor7839 East teams won a couple of those rings though before Kidd/RJ left... Wade/Shaq, and Pistons. Was a long time ago, hard for me to remember clearly.... I think injuries piled up. I forget. Didn't Lebron beat them in the 2nd round ?
Penny aint got no rings cuz of Shaq. Van Exel, Eddie Jones, Kobe off the bench & Shaq. All 4 were All Stars that season. No ring. Shipped Nick & Eddie out. Enter The Black Mamba full time. 3peat. Later on, no Shaq, back 2 back. Kobe was the 2nd best SG ever. Vince is arguably 6th-8th. Iverson is #3, Wade #4, TMac #5. But could be #4. Vince is #6 but Drexler could be #6, Klay could be #6. Then there's Pierce, Mitch Richmond, R. Allen, B. Roy in no particular order. But post MJ, Kob is clearly, that guy. Nobody is gonna swap Kob for Vince just to claim that he would have rings with Shaq as if Kobe could be replaced with the #6-#8 guy at their position when Kobe was actually more valuable than Shaq. Shaq didn't win shit until Kobe emerged. Shaq would've been the goat if he wasn't lazy. & Vince, Tracy, AI & Penny who was a PG were all more naturally talented than Kobe. But Kobe work ethic along with his maniacal will as a competitor made him the most complete & even more skilled than even MJ & with deeper range with his jumper & had better handles which was a weakness in Vince game. But MJ & Vince athleticism was stupid!!! & MJ was just 1 of 1& the goat. But MJ & Kobe the most cold blooded killers out of everybody. Larry Joe Bird would break your heart too!!! But I must say that the SG in MJ era were weak & usually spot up shooters & the 4th-5th option on the team. Craig Ehlo, Jeff Hornacek, Danny Ainge, Hersey Hawkins, Nate McMillan, Bobby Phills, Kendall Gill, Blue Edwards etc. Come on man. It probably still wouldn't have made a difference because MJ was that cold. & he reinvented the SG position. Kobe's era had the coldest collection of SG's ever!!! They ended up being the go-to-guys who took the most shots & could handle the ball & create their own shots & were the best athletes on the team. MJ started that shit. A SG who would be the 4th-5th option isn't good enough for the NBA now days. They are required to have a totally different set of skills now. Just imagine Hornecek trying to guard MJ. Now imagine Kobe having to stay in front of Iverson, being guarded by 6'9 TMac who could score from anywhere on the court & jumping higher than Kobe. Then there's Vince he has to face the next night who was strong as a bull with unlimited hops!!! & could shoot like a MF. JR Rider, Latrell, Allan Houston, Eddie Jones, Kerry Kittles, Derek Anderson, Doug Christie, Cuttino Mobley, Iggy, Stackhouse & some guy named LEBRON JAMES. A SF/PG/SG the size of a PF who is top 3-5 with goat numbers who has been the best player for the longest amount of time & counting. Kobe had to face these guys every night for 20 years. & he's the 1 MJ loved like a lil brother & who he would choose to go thru a door with hands down over all of these other cats. & cried like a baby at Kobe & Gigi's memorial service. I said all of this to say. DON'T COME FOR KOBE AGAIN!!! NOT WITH VINCE CARTER OR ANYBODY ELSE!!! I love Vince, but Vince cant fuck with Kob!!! Los Angeles stand up!!! & rest well Kob & Gigi........MAMBA OUT
@@andrem.thomas332Vince didn't have the same mentality as kobe. That mf played no defense and Phil Jackson would've hated that mf like he hated coaching Carmelo. Vince probably wins 1 with Shaq but he definitely ain't winning with Pau
The idea that Vince was the "best in the league" is laughable. He was really good but that 2000 year he wasn't better than Iverson or Shaq, or honestly probably not Duncan either.
@@hardwoodthought1213 My point was that it was very early in Duncan's career. I don't take issue with a "Duncan was the best player in basketball" argument.
Gil smoking crack. Everybody in the league wanted to be vince in 2000. There was a serious question on who the better player was, Vince or Kobe at the time.
For a year or 2. He fell off. I remember keeping Track of him back then. I was convinced he was the second coming of Jordan..... But it never happened ..he's still the most "talented" I've ever seen. I'm 48 this year. I saw Stockton and Malone when I was a kid in Utah. Saw Prime Shawn Kemp , And Dominique Wilkins.
@@Only1Feedie all of a sudden Iverson was a dawg no the fck he ain’t dude was clubbing instead of showing up to practice, the only dawgs I recall back in that era was Vince & T Mac both are in the same category as Kobe talent wise, Gil is only known for bringing a gun inside the NBA arena that’s it dude decline & pulled silly some antics these podcaster got y’all running around like sheep 🪤
@@willy2o976 he was 6’0 and played like he was 6’8 he left it all out on the court for like 44 minutes a game and lead a terrible roster to a finals appearance.Ur clueless.
I agree with Gil. I don't think VC was ever the best player in the league, but he was one of the best of them. He was entertaining as hell to watch, but I don't think that makes him better than someone like Tim Duncan.
Gil and McCants got two different perspectives. Cause Gil looks at the game like a hooper, he looks at everyone as how they can hoop as an individual and McCants looks at everything like playing the GAME of basketball, so he has the mindset that you don’t have to be the BEST hooper to be a good player if you’re making an impact for the TEAM on the floor. Crazy cause they’re both right about stuff in their own way, the difference is usually the person who thinks like Gil is the one who gets the chips and becomes a superstar. If Gil wasn’t so wild he would have had all that lol
You could not be further from the truth. Jordan has 6 titles killer mentality, as Gill says. While Bill Russell has 11, yes, 11 titles. Playing as a team player, as MaCants says!!! Magic, Bird, and Kareem were all team players.jordan is an outlier. Because of the expansion of the league. And rule change.
@@HasanMustafaa-en1tj Jordan literally won as a team player. And Gil is a moron. What was his mentality? Getting in mexican standoffs in his locker room and telling cops he cant be arrested cause hes a ball player lmfao. Dude actually got mentally broken by lebron of all guys. Choked them free throws and was never the same. Great mentality.
If Vince would've had a decent team or a older mcgrady he could've had 30 plus average easy but he was doing it on his own with the raptors and nets give him a Shaq and I guarantee everyone shut there mouths then.
The craziest thing is you can say vince made the nets worse. They want to the finals back to back years without him. When they got Vince he was suppose to elevate them but he didn't
To add to his mentality? LeBron whispered in his ear about missing free throws and he missed both. Vince Carter put the Raptors on the map people wanted to watch them. NOBODY EVER THOUGHT OF Zero like that EVER
This isn't about gil, Vince had everything, he let it go because he never wanted it. Gil is very open about his shortcomings but when he speaks the truth you try to insult him
Is he smoking crk vc was batter then u will ever be .he really didn't have the pics he need it if so omg. I think they new when he was jumping out the jm like that let's not bill around him 2 much.
Respect. These young cats don't know about Wilkins and many others. MJ is the 🐐 but that's all they know because of his brand, name and legendary status. Real ones know there were many killers back then. MJ was just the most lethal 💯
When was vincd Carter ever best player 💀🤣. Shaq from 2000- 2003 was best player then 2004 - 2007 was tim/ Dirk Duncan. Then 2008-2010 it was Kobe / Lebron dude was never the best
Vince said it himself, he wished he put in the work and professionalism earlier in his career. The fact he lasted so long despite starting later on the hard training tells you how much potential wasn’t realized.
Was just about to bring this up before I saw your comment
@@danielterry3723 glad someone else knows 👌🏾
What you mean his potential wasn't realized? How can he have not recognized his potential and at the same time made it to the highest level of basketball? His talent propelled him to the highest level just like that left foot when it's sticking to the court and he did those amazing dunks That was his life with his talent it propelled him. He knew his talent he knew his potential he already made it he didn't have that killer mentality see us as fans we sit back and we think these guys is going so hard and they really don't. they have natural ability. that's what the recruiters look for they don't look for the the dogs who really dogs. The dogs who got the talent those are the Hall of famers but they overpass all the dogs because they got a 30-in vertical. they jump shot a little messed up. they a little outta shape. They pulled up when they should've drove through. The pros is a fraternity.
@@slightlyworking4because "potential" is the best that HE could have done.
Many people made it to the top level of basketball.
Some people achieve things by being THEIR best.
Others don't even have to be THEIR best to achieve the same things or even more because they are naturally gift.
If they add hard work to that talent???...bro thats a whole different level of monster we are talking about.
It don't matter how much work Vince Carter put in it didn't matter he wasn't the one playing with Shaquille O'Neal so it really didn't matter
Kobe told y’all “By year 5 it’s going to be so hard to catch up to the work I put in” I guess now we know this is who he was comparing himself against
You’re just conjecturing. He meant that for everybody. Period.
@@SammyZane-v9cI agree.
@@SammyZane-v9cwhile you aren’t wrong, kobe himself was comparing himself to Vince and t Mac a lot because they were so much more naturally gifted than he was and he’s said that numerous times and they played the same position so yeah he was tryna beat those guys always. But it was to be applied to anybody in the league as well.
@@tylerdejesus6333don’t forget Allen iverson as well
Ayyeeee 💯
Tracy Mcgrady and Vince and those 2 were freaking mega talents.
Cousins
@@og6951 yeah I know, they didn't find out until they were in the league, and on the same team lol.
And hall of fame inductee
@@RylzRiles na, TMAC was in high school, Vince was in college. but it was close what you saying lol
@@itsdsworld209 thanks, I didn't verify it I saw it on some doc like 10 + years ago
Vince Carter’s first few years were some of the most exciting NBA games at that time. He and Iverson were by far the most entertaining basketball players at that time.
No lie!
I agree WIT DAT.
He was very entertaining. I don’t think he was ever considered the best. Not even top 10. Not really known for his defense either.
I literally was just about to comment how we were privileged to see Vince Carter and Allen Iverson play back in the day. Glad someone else gets it.
@@0ptimusLime Allen was the top guard after Jordan to me. He was insanely tough and had fear. Vince was fun to watch.
The olympics was the closest we ever got to seeing peak Vince. He was angry that whole time that he wasn't even considered until someone got injured. He was eating every team alive in the 2000 olympics.
@@GeeNoTv19what makes it so off then
Yep. He was jumping over seven footers. Le dunk de la mort as they call it in France
@epigmastatix1544 that dunk literally ended Weis' NBA career. The Knicks didn't even bother bringing him over because of it.
@@deleqtronica8733 really? It messed his head up that much haha. Prolly thought no one would ever do that. that's the coolest dunk ever IMHO.
@@PigmaStatiX156if only Demar Derozan had made that 360 in yo face dunk. Vince would have some competition.
Even with no rings....Vince was a joy to watch....its hard to explain in words the visuals of seeing that man fly
He just had a high verticle near 50inch not a floater like MJ. MJ had both thats what separates him from the pack. With a complete package no weskness. Completely strong in every part of his game.
@mjathisbestandteachingskil6980 dont bring up jordan we are talking about vince right now.
The game is about winning at the end of the day.
@@mjathisbestandteachingskil6980 MJ isn't the only player who had both, so stop the glazing, please
@mjathisbestandteachingskil6980 MJ isn't the only player who had both, so stop the glazing, please
Y’all missed the point. He saying that if Vince would have had that killer mentality he would be in the GOAT conversation. Because the talent was there. They talked about Vince like he was supposed to be the next Jordan but he didn’t have that mentality early in his career. Vince and T Mac should of been like Jordan and Durant on the same team. Unstoppable
Would’ve been if T-Mac wasn’t a pre madonna and could’ve shared the spotlight. He didn’t like sharing the shine and that was the Raptors downfall. McGrady has admitted it on camera
@@wildcat8598 He also couldn't handle pressure. That man was a literal house of cards in the playoffs. He had no excuse for how great he was for never getting out of the first round then eventually injuries piled up and it was too late. He shouldn't be in the HOF for that reason alone
@@wildcat8598he didn’t like that he was second option to Vince he felt he was better. 😴 he clearly says many of times he could of been third option with Shaq nd Kobe
Nah you missed the point he called him lazy when he isn't fkn lazy and he played for like 16 years 💀
@@NewBtheonly33 yea and got dropped on his neck at 24 and was never the same 😴
Both T-Mac and Vince were FAR more naturally gifted and athletic than Kobe. Work ethic and killer instinct matters.
And health
Thats a wild take. if they were FAR more naturally gifted they would have done more in the league. Vince played for a long time.
@@tommydashed4205ye but he did not put in the work like how Kobe did. Did u not hear the quote “hoard work beats talent if talent does not work hard”
@@tommydashed4205not true. NBA has an insane history of those type of players and those players get forgotten because they don’t achieve much.
Lazy is not the right word. He's not psychopathic about winning like Jordan and kobe but he wasn't lazy. That's the opposite end of the spectrum where you got guys like Andrew Wiggins and Ben Simmons.
Fair point, it wasn’t necessarily laziness but probably unfulfilled potential.
Yea he settled and players like Kobe got better and better
He was lazy because his will to win said he was bit of a softy
For his talent Vince was lazy, LeBron became what people expected Vince to be and LeBron doesn't have the same mentality as Kobe or Jordan, Vince might be the most God given talent in the NBA history.
Even farther to the pathetic end we have people like you who think they work harder than professional athletes
Gil’s definition of killer mentality: bring a gun to the locker room
😂😭💀
😂😂😂😂
Bless his heart 😊
That part
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Gilbert be talking about the greats like he's a 10 time champion and hall of famer 😂
😅😅
Right in line with most UA-cam commenters so… 🤷♂️
Well, atleast he played at a high level for a brief time. I'll take his takes over Skip or Stephen A
Arenas was giving Kobe problems back in the day as well as other niggas. He just had no help foreal
Gilbert has the right to talk because he was a all star and one of the best players to ever play also he is one of the top 25 guards in NBA history
Vince need to come on the show. He'd tare Gilbert a new one for calling him lazy. The man dealt with injuries and other problems while in Toronto. There's a reason he became Vincanity again in NJ. He was the best sg in 2001.
Nah, his own cousin Tracy was equal or better than him that year and better every year after for the next handful of years. T-mac had 2 more rebounds a game, more assists per game and less than a point less per game in 2000-2001.
@amostlyreasonableguy nope, it's cool that Tmac got more rebounds but that doesn't necessarily qualify you as a better shooter guard. In that case Iverson drops all the way down. But in 2001, the guards were between Iverson, Kobe, and Vince. Tmac was the most improved player. It wasn't until 2002, 03, and 04 where it was basically Tmac or Kobe.
Vince was a monster
💯
Got 20x more bodies than Gil
He was ok not a superstar
He was better then Shaq tim Dirk kobe in any part of 2000s
@@gorcsauce696Stop dreaming bro
Yeah gil really got that killer mentality 💀💀💀💀
I mean he did drop 60 points 54 points and 51 points… while Vince only had 2 51 point games
That defines killer mentality? Lol
And first comment was joking about the 🔫 😂
@@Drezzy2
@@Drezzy2it was once and Gil didn't have that killer mentality as well. Vince was better than Gil overall I agree with gil
Y'all sleeping on Gil, he was the original Ja Morant 🔫
@@Drezzy2 Vince had a 3rd 50 point game... in the playoffs.
Vince was that dude . The fact that Toronto didn’t capitalize on having him and t-Mac was a shame
And Charles! That was my guy
Tmac left before they could explode like that....TMac wanted out...
TMac was young and Vince quit on the team cost us a finals appearance in 01
@kirkmcra3 everybody wants out of Toronto. Toronto's my team but no American/Canadian wants to be in Toronto. Just look at our history, any star player who wasn't international almost never re-signed. They all wanted out when they had the chance.
@@5thgearratchet shit weather, high taxes and overall lack luster city compared to big US markets +never away game youhave to deal with deal with the tsa. Can't blame them.
Yea Gill isn't thinking logically. At one point there was talk of Kobe for Vince trade.
I watched Vince hit huge shots.. super clutch, super athlete
Absolutely!
Oh yeah super clutch, until that missed 3 from the corner to beat Phili and go to the finals
Always under grady
@@johntheboy6555😂 i was just getting ready to say this before i saw your comment
Prime years should've been 25-30 that's real.
Gil just be saying Shit sometimes, but it's working for Him 🤣🤣🤣
You got that right. He talks off planet most times but like you said it works for him. Dude will hate on a basketball for being a basketball.
You see my problem, at 24 he's averaging 28, he should be averaging 40+ at 25, haha gil crazy
@chuuuchchuuuch561 🤣🤣🤣they were looking at him like he was crazy when said that.
@@chuuuchchuuuch561 nah I think he saying image of Tatum right now for the the next 5 years only avg 18-22 a game after avg 28-6-5
I get what Gil tryna say. Basically if Vince had kobes work ethic, he'd be the best cause he was more talented than everyone. Not saying he didn't work on his game, just saying he probably didn't work like the all time greats
Toronto 2000-2001 Vince was elite.
The league belonged to Shaq, Iverson, Vince, and Kobe.
And Tim Duncan
You're forgetting Timmy
T-MAC
T-mac
Yessir
It's weird hearing Gilbert Arenas say this about Vince Carter. Gil never had killer instinct. He was a stat-chaser who just didn't care that much about winning.
He was a point chaser can’t even call him a stat chaser because he only did one thing score that’s it
Vince was silky smooth. But he wasn't a killer. He peaked in Toronto and coasted from then on. Skilled but he definitely underachieved.
Gil def had killer instinct
Vince careter is the reason i watched basketball, him on the raptors was nuts
Who’s that?
@@CookinBurgers110 Tracy MacGerady's cousin.
NBA on CTV was my childhood
"He got traded it fucked up his whole psyche" is not only proving Gils point but also telling on why McCants career fizzled the way it did
He got traded to a better team. He never wanted to be THE GUY... Even though he was the most physically gifted
He asked to be traded. Raptors didn’t just wake up one morning and say We need to trade our franchise player.
That shit don’t prove his point….Vince was on a different team and had a different role. Gil was cold but never on VC level
Bruh what you just saying shit throwing mccants in there 😂😂
@@2Tall2ActSmallthat’s literally gils point bro … he didn’t want to be the guy but had all the tools and talent to be the man Vince did everything he did with no effort REALLY he was just that gifted !! KOBE HAD TO WORK TO TO BE THAT GOOD AND CONTINUED TO WORK WHICH MADE HIM BETTER …. VINCE NATURALLY WAS MORE TALENTED THEN. KOBE …. KOBED WORKED HARDER … I think the term lazy is the wrong word but I get exactly what gil was trying to SAY VINCE REALLY DIDNT CARE TO BE THE MAN IS A BETTER WAY IN A WORKERHOLICS EYES LIKE GILZ THAT EQUATES TO LAZY
Calling Vince lazy and he was able to be in the league until 40 and was known for his athleticism is crazy…..
Athleticism isn’t something you work on , you either got or don’t but you’re right about the other point I guess but so was UD so really that don’t matter
This comment. Discussion over🎉
T Mac last averaged 20 in 08.. VC, 2009.. only one of them was injured.. Gil statement has some validity to it..
@@StuntmanBeatz313 It really doesn’t lol. Longevity isn’t made with laziness. Busts are made with laziness. That’s not what Vince needed to do. Also, Vince def had injuries lol.
Gilbert is there for shock value anyone who's seen Vince play knew that dude was a monster
Facts , Vince never was a serial killer ! Yes if …..IF …. He had Kobe’s work ethics he would have been called mongoose ! The mamba killer!
If kyrie is the most exciting below the rim player, then I believe Vince is the most exciting above the rim player ever
That’s dope, I’m with it.
Allen Iverson
@@samueldiaz6299 hey I can't be mad because the answer was the first and I believe he's the better player overall, but the answer didn't have as many finishing layups at the rim as kyrie. This is something that even AI admitted in a interview on All of the Smoke.
I think Shawn Kemp and Blake Griffin would have something to say about that.
@@YourSpongeBoy they would but Vince creativity is superior to both of those guy's
I'll pick prime Vince over prime Gil any day
@@Josh_L3G3ND So what Vince had a much longer career and accomplished more
@@sil0011and had more character and self-respect than Gil too.
@@Josh_L3G3ND Al Bundy scored 4 touchdowns in a single game.
But jokes aside, man get outta here. Gil belongs nowhere near the list of NBA greats. It takes more than a few memorable games to get there.
Prime Gil was probably better than prime Vince though.
@@Crackdealerfr I can’t even take you serious fam lol
True. He never got the spotlight for taking over games, just amazing dunks.
What?? Go watch Vince clutch highlights..the best at it since 2000..
Right? People are taking this as a diss from gil but he’s right. Vince Carter was a phenomenal player, but he never was a type to like take over games or approach practice like Kobe. He just basically floated on God-given talent for like 20 years, which is crazy to say in itself.
It's because he *didn't* take over games
@@Shigami-lb6ocare you calling vince carter the most clutch player since 2000 ?
@@Shigami-lb6occmon man, we're talking consistently. Everyone has seasons (ex D. Foxx 2 seasons ago, now nowhere to be found). Once McGrady reached his peak, nobody cared about Vince like that anymore.
I love Vince regardless of what he can be criticized for. Nasty skills, flew through the air like MJ. Closest person to looking the way Mike did when he jumped and was sideways and in the air for crazy long time. And on top of that he was a smart well spoken dude who seemed always at an even keel
Only Vince Carter could have stopped Vince Carter 🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀
If your nickname is vincesanity your a beast he was killing it on the nets too
Would you say Jeremy Lin was the best in the league the year he got his name linsanity?? 🤔
@@Galaxybound-b4l he was ballin out of this world pause linsanity definitely made his mark
Then got smoked by a 22 year old lebron James
*you're a beast
No he wasn’t Vince should of been more when he did that interview with coach Thompson, after that I was like he not going to be in the upper echelon… him and Randy moss in the same boat to me.
After Vince was traded to NJ. He played for them 5 years. He averaged 27,24,25,21,20 at the age of 28-33 Vince was still good after the trade if not better. Vince averaged 28 ppg in 01-02 at the age of 24 and wasnt traded for another 5 years after that.
At 25 he averaged 24.7
At 26 he averaged 20ppg
At 27 he averaged 22 ppg
At 28 he was traded and averaged 27.5
for NJ
At 29 he averaged 24 ppg
At 30 he averaged 25 ppg
Tf are these guys talking about man??
Empty stats
@@bayareaplaya6004 better than Gil
@@willread8376 not really but carry on
@bayareaplaya6004 not really??
Lol, sure, Gil had like 3 good years in his whole career. The dude only played 3 full seasons in the NBA. Always hurt.
Allstar games Vince 8 - Gil 3
Playoffs played Vince 11 - Gil 5
Rookie of the year Vince 1 - Gil 0
Slam dunk champion Vince 1 - Gil 0
Vince shot better than Gil on FG% and 3pt%. Gil is an underachieved player who talks about if he had another players skill set what he would do with it..smh
@@willread8376 gil made all NBA 3 times and he was injured lmao. He would of finished with 7 or 10 vince on made all NBA 1 time out of 20 seasons slam dunk contest? Wtf does that matter?
Vince Carter was the best dunker, the league ever seen, 7and his prime.I don't even hear nobody else talk about it
2000 mvp was shaq.
2001 mvp was ai.
Not a single argument could be made that vince was better than either of those two. Vc was electric, and truly deserving of his half man, half amazing nickname...but come on now. 2001 ai? 2000 Shaq? Some of the best offensive weapons to touch a basketball. Ai stole a game from LA, do you really think vc is doing the same? No. Kobe said the nba was lucky ai wasnt 6'7". And Shaq? I mean just stop it. Lol. 2000s 3 peat, literal force of nature Shaq? The only way to stop him was hack a Shaq. You COULD NOT stop him from scoring if he wanted to.
Vince Carter literally almost led that Raptors team over the better coached & more talented Sixers' team.
I agree that Iverson was better, but acting as if Vince wasn't in the discussion is honestly hilarious.
@@atlien1988even we conceded AI, He wasn’t better than KG, Duncan, Shaq, or Kobe he was at least 1 tier below them
@@kingjaydex7464nah not a whole tier below, you trippin. Vince was one of them. The early 2000s stars 2nd tier starts with maybe Seattle Ray Allen, Steve Francis, Baron Davis, 00s Gary Peyton, honestly you could double back and say the 2nd tier starts with jason kidd or nash.
This is just GLAZING if you COULD NOT stop him why he don't got a chip
That 2001 game 1 with Allen should be in everyone top 3 all time I never seen no shit like that he literally took on prime shaq an Kobe by himself Allen didn’t even have a second choice to pass to it was like the team was a wall of defense and he was alll the offense Allen would hit shots from deep under pressure but Allen’s play style is also why they would not win the entire philosophy of Allen is to just jock he didn’t care about nothing else or no one else’s bad style of playing
Gilbert Arenas was never on the same level as Vince carter idc what anyone says
If you don't care what anyone else says then keep your opinions to yourself nephew.
If you think that a player who gave Kobe 60 and was an All-NBA performer for three straight seasons in no ways can be compared to Vince, you proved you didn’t watch a lot of basketball. You’re mad at the criticism which is valid.
@@wowsadowsa Arenas was overrated played for the wizards where he was basically the whole offense he played great for 3 years vice carter was great in 2 different organizations he also dominated playing with Tmac and Richard Jefferson and Jason kid
@@rickmccoy7369 You just said that Arenas was overrated offensively on a team that made the playoffs each of those years that also had Antawn Jamison and Caron Butler who were All-Stars and Eddie Curry who was elected to coach at least one ASG. You don’t know what you’re talking about. TMac wasn’t that guy until Orlando and Kidd drove the offense on those Nets teams. lol, go back and watch, guy.
@@wowsadowsa go look at the numbers Arenas is overrated Caron butler and Jamison were good far from great arenas took 30 shots a night he averaged over 20 points 3 times in his career and wasn’t nearly as durable Vince played until he was 40 and at a high level still well into his 30s and was much more of a complete player you obviously didn’t watch the game or your just high Arenas was not nearly the player Vince carter was he was good and he could score but so could most guys that take 25 shots a game look Nate Robison would come off the bench and give teams 40 or 50 he was 5’9 and a bench player Brandon Jennings same kinda of player Vince carter averaged over 20ppg for 10 different seasons and about 5 years he averaged pretty much 20+ 5 and 5
Vince was an all around monster..
on 2k yeah. he was SHITE defender
This guy's name is Gilbert we can't listen to him 😂
He was never the best in the league tho
Now imagine if he had ¾ of Kobe's work ethic
@@ProdByCAV0 exactly. never
Vince had it drilled into him in college that he was second best . Although he was leagues better than Jamison , Jamison was considered best player in college . Still mad that the Warriors Traded him because we had fckn Sprewell😡🤬
Vince’s problem was……he wasn’t narcissistic.
We praise MJ and Kobe for their mentalities and what they accomplished from it. Without calling it what it truly is…….Narcissism.
The only time in his career where I felt he was being too nice was from age 32 to 34, where he still should have been a number one option on the teams he was on, but was willing to defer to younger guys. If 33 year old Vince demands to be option 1 instead of Dwight Howard, and demands to play more than just 30 mpg to Stan Van, things may have gone differently in his year with Orlando.
You sound opposite of a winner
No Bro if you put in the work/ preparation at or in something you’re more confident in your abilities.
If things come so easy the movement you face an obstacle you lose your cool and are shaken.
Like students taking a test who’s more confident the person who studied or the person who never studied?
@@slickeddy2000you right...a lot if these players got praying mothers but fathers are no where to help.
No, that’s not it because you can be an all time great without that. See Magic, LeBron, Steph, etc. Vince was obviously a HOFer but there is no reason he should not have been on the same level as prime Kobe or T-Mac. He did not assert himself the way that he could or should have.
Gilbert talking like hes done something in the league
Right bro be talking crazy like his opinions be facts
he averaged 28 in 2007 ??
@@sageturtl4996 and? one of the worst team in the league with bad defense
He did .....btw he says that most were more talented than him. He said he put in work.
Gil did more with less. Vince did less with more.
The one time I can agree with him. Vince had the tools but not the spirit. The game was natural for him
Vince made a great careeer off being a great dunker. Thats all his career will be remembered for
Vince with Kobe or MJ mentality would've been the Greatest Athlete of All Time
Not even class...vince only made all NBA team twice never 1st team. Not one defensive team. He was never the best. Only the best dunker.
False...kobe mindset in shaq would be the greatest ever.
I understand this comment, but, I can't completely agree - if you give a super athletic hooper MJ's mentality, then you simply have MJ! Vince may have been a better dunker creatively, but in no world was Vince more athletic than MJ! And don't get me started on fundamentals, defense, post moves, guile around the hoop etc.
@@Doninho14 the guy who jumped over a 7 footer isn’t more athletic than Jordan????? And Vince is a better shooter
@@vernoncoward2682 You know how many 7 footers MJ's jumped over! Basketball in the NBA did not start in the year 2000 . . . !
As much talent Vince had I agree he didn’t play like his talent showed. He really could have did whatever he wanted on the court sure he got hella highlights but wit the talent he had can score at all 3 levels an jump out the gym is insane for real
You just glazing how many hall of famers he played with ?
@@Rabdomvidsbaby3what? What is even the point of this question
Vince should've had at least one scoring title with his talent
@@Rabdomvidsbaby3 stupid question bro
In the 99 2000 season there was a debate about who is better....VINCE OR KOBE.... AND IT WAS A MOMENT there when I thought that Vince had Kobe only because Kobe had Shaq.... But as the years went on it wasn't even close.... Kobe mentality made him surpass Vince by a mile!
Iverson and t mac were better than Kobe and Vince. Offensively those were the best 2 players in the league.
@@javiersanchez1661 iverson had the green light to shoot everytime. T Mac was great but lack that killer that Kobe and A I had.
@@Charles.psalms1 Kobe told Shaq at 18 years old if he wants the ball to get the rebound off Kobe's missed shot. T Mac had 2 scoring titles before Kobe even won his 1st scoring title. Iverson had 4 scoring titles before Kobe ever won his 1st scoring title. T mac and Iverson held the scoring title for 6 consecutive years. Kobe was no where to be found.
@@Charles.psalms1 Kobe's teammates even said he never passed the ball. Kobe himself said he wouldn't pass the ball. Kobe is getting all the shots he wants, but still getting outscored by Iverson and t mac.
@@javiersanchez1661 I look at it differently. Kobe was better than those guys.
Vince Carter .... Would still be part of the greatest team line up in any era though, because he adds something different to a team filled with greats. I mean every chief needs that one guy who is a total bad ass and can get the job done on demand. I mean he like the best of the best. 😁👍🏾💯🔥
Vince had the best dunk I ever seen by any player in the Olympics. I was so hyped after he jumped over and dunked on dude. I'll never forget that
Half man half amazing was my favorite player growing up,Him and steve francis.
Two of my favorite players in the league one should've been what Kobe was the other should've been what ai was but oh well
Steve franchise was a problem man
Facts, I wore 15 in high school ball out of love for Vince.
@@mixwellusa I just got to witness them as a young child 😂😂
@@mixwellusa just recently got a Vince jersey tho
Vince played more years in the NBA than i had LIVED when he retired. I was born in 1998 and believe me he's a prime candidate for "NBA no injuries, who's getting the mvp". Vince with injuries was dunking on players in their prime at 40. Without injuries he would've cooked everybody. Maybe not well done but medium well fs
I love VC. Lebron is the same type of player. Longevity players, top 100 all time for sure.
Gilbert was lazy. 😅
How many rings tho
@@kendrickwarren9274trollin
@drewcp2012 0, but how many bums can you name with a ring? Demarcus cousins got injured 2 times on teams that won, and he got... 2 rings 🤣 sometimes the ring count doesn't explain how good someone really was. How many did AI get? CP3? Clyde Drexler? Ewing? Shaq has less than Robert Horry. Who do you really want in your lineup?
VC was great in 2000-01, but he wasn't better than Allen Iverson. AI led the league in scoring and steals.
Besides being the best dunker ever for a while, Vince is #9 top 3-point shooters of all time. Dude just retired when he was 43. Gil Arenas is bugging. We all watched that man play. I have old vhs tapes in the basement of him at UNC destroying it then too.
I’m just saying the reason he’s top 9 is because of longevity, lebron is number 8 on the list ahead of Vince and we don’t really consider bron an elite to good 3 point shooter, expect for like 2 years
@@Cuhhhhhhhhhhhh exactly. He hit a lot of 3’s over his 20+ year career. You can’t casually become a top 10 individual in any professional sport. Vince is one of the best to ever play the game. The crazy thing with LeBron too is that everyone else on the list is a guard.
Cant you though? If ur a 3 point shooter and you play 20 years you're probably cracking top 10 or 15 shooters of all time. Vince was good not great. No cap
He also is 8th all time on attempts so he was jacking up 3s all day of course hes gonna make a bunch doesnt make him great
@@ns213playsgames2 Vince will be in the Hall of Fame.
I find it hilarious how Gilbert talks about players like he even has a invitation to sit at the same table 😂
You obviously green as a bean.... Gil was that niGCa
If he never got injured he most likely would
He does..... those players respect Gil despite whatever lil miserable shit you got in ya head lil kid.
Gilbert was better tf
Could tell you young
Gil just like to hear himself talk sometimes I truly believe that now
What did he say that was wrong
Calling him lazy
@@Wilcorankinghe doesn’t mean literally lazy you don’t get to the nba being lazy it’s not possible but he means he didn’t have that desire to be the best like the others etc
Gil's mentality had a what 2 years run???
You like to hear Gill speak too!😂
Vince and TMac were born with Gifts from God. But when you look at Kobe, it just proves hard work always triumph over natural talent.
Vince Carter was one of the most ferocious dunking guards in the NBA. His dunks were violent 😳
No lie!
@JeansAndaTshirt Latrell Sprewell, only a shooting guard, was ferocious as well with that two-handed power dunk. He was violent as well
@@jayelbee1111yup
That boy was crazy!!! Who played like him.......nobody!!!
Best or not, Vince was a huge influence to basketball culture. That under the leg dunk changed the game & he had youngsters all over the world tryna do it including myself. He's legendary
💯💯💯
Prime Vince was the best jumpman…he was dope but mostly known for dunking
Half man half amazing...vince jumped over a 7ft man...put respect on his name
That was originally Dominic Wilkins nickname
Perfect name for him😂
@dariush.4241 dominique wilkins...aka the human highlight film 💯
Or what???
Nah him and tmac were overrated. Tmac never won a playoff 😂
VC definitely was top 3 in the league in 2000. No question about it but it’s had for me to say he was the best when Shaq was Dominating almost every aspect of the game
He never was the best!!
Cap Shaq,Kobe,Iverson and Duncan were all better at this time
@@truzzprod.8191let’s not forget KG, C Webb and J Kidd. You could even argue T Mac cause he was in Orlando getting busy
Nope vince was never top 3
@@mikee702 Vince, T Mac and Paul Pierce fighting to sort out spots 8-10 imo
Gil right. Truth hurts. Vince should've been even better than he was.
t6ruth hurts u doesnt know sport u never saw nba. Go google Bruce Bowen in jured Vince Carter 4x in career.
VC had GOAT-level athleticism in his prime ........ there is no way in hell ANYONE should have been able to guard him 1v1. and there's no way that his résumé should be void of a CONFERENCE final appearance.
@@dhinton1 tripping Vince was a problem
@@PIP...33Bowen was one of the dirtiest in the league
He did that to another player I forgot who rn
@@dumisatonyjohnson8145 google : wally world (szczerbiak) mcgrady, ray allen and kobe vs bowen. he had job to do so duncan can win easy rings. To get rid of competition. Its simple trade he got suspension as an 6th option in Spurs, but best players cannot play on opposite teams due to recovery few months.
If Vince was THAT GUY they would have NEVER traded him.
The skillset & potential of VC through the roof. The real life resluts are what matters. He petered out.
They traded him because he got hurt. Toronto was badly managed at that time. Nobody is sayin shit about him getting injured that's Toronto starting acting funny.... financially. Some just talkin and wasn't watching the NBA then!
@saywhatYADIG His injury wasn't THAT bad to where the Raptors would have just sent him packing. Look at how long the league stays with stars, even after injuries. I 100% agree with you that Toronto was a bad org. They were a dysfunctional, cheap mess.
@@saywhatYADIGthey traded him because Vince demanded a trade
They traded Vince because he demanded a trade and gave up on the team. They had Bosh at the time. In Jersey, he was good, but never was the same. He then went to Orlando to be that last piece to a championship team as they had just gone to the Finals in 09, and literally was a shell of his former self. After Orlando, he went all downhill in production. From Dallas to Memphis, Sacramento, and then Atlanta is when he never had anything to contribute except being a veteran voice in the locker room. Let's just say that after Toronto, he was never the best player since the Nets had Kidd still, Orlando had Dwight, and after Jersey, he was never a top option anymore.
I love me some real life resluts 😂
I've never in my entire life seen a baller dunk so cool so sweet so slam.. Like Vince 🙌🏾🙌🏾
@toniogg2608 so fresh and so clean!
Vince Carter had a few injuries and couldn't dunk and accelerate as often as we were used to or else his knees and ankles would've exploded. So he switched his game to pure shooting and became a valuable asset for any team. And still kept a few dunks in the bag for yall ungrateful ninjas
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He lost his first step early in his career and could no longer drive past defenders... If you watch highlights before his injuries and after you can clearly see he lost his quickness. Still had his ups but he lost that first step. Vince also never had the heart and determination to be at the level of Kobe and MJ. He has more skill and raw talent but didn't have the discipline, work ethic and mental toughness. He was a better version of Isiah Rider. A player who got by on raw talent.
Kobe and Ray lost their 1st step and still did playoff damage in the late 00s. Vince didnt take care of his body, Ray and Kobe were gym rats to the 1,000th degree and were big on nutrition, Vince let himself go, but in a slight kinda way, its the extra that was needed. Kobe and Ray knew that.
No Gil, I don't see what your problem is, I never see what your problem is. U wrong
Gilbert act like he was the shit!😂
This guy couldn’t walk in Vince carters shoes 😂😂
He never said he could yall so quick to talk smack you completely missed his points. He literally said if he could have anyone's talent he would choose Vince. Just not his mentality . He could have been the best 👌
I didn't know Vince had a dog cause the leash is around your neck ain't it 😮😮
ehhh
VC played more seasons than any other player in NBA history...Gil trippin' calling him lazy
Gilbert the only one that doesn’t suck up to every other player and is honest
Yet somehow Vince came into league before Gilbert and out played him hmm interesting one in top 75 players all time and Gilbert can't even sniff top 250
Just because he's honest doesn't make him right
Don't forget Olympic Vince was GOAT like
Areanas opinion is nearly always opposite of mine. I listened to nothing that he says
if ur quoting Gilbert ur lost
This is why Kobe was so special. The thought of Vince t Mac and his contemporaries practicing as hard as him was something he believed out him at a disadvantage somewhat bc of their physical gifts that he didn’t possess. That turned into a drive that became obsession to not be out worked which prepared and developed his elite skillset.
Or just good ol conversation with mike
What physical gifts did they have that kobe didn't have??
@WopWopWop-bx9jb factz lol
Kobe had Shaq. No Shaq 1 ring
@WopWopWop-bx9jb if Kobe never had Shaq he never would of had finals experience, Kobe would of just been melo. So facts are facts remember Shaq went to the finals already
Gil has to stop smoking all that free paychecks... Prime Vince was not afraid of making tough shots going at it with the best of them, when my team played his team, I worried. The only problem is Vince didn't demand more from the GM to build himself a team.
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I could watch Vince all day long, G.A. is right, no killer mentality. He held back bro. We still love him in Toronto
I live in Toronto (not a raps fan) and believe me, there is no love for Vince here
@cythefly Yeah bro, I lived there for over 20 years, I'm not talking about what he did as a player while there. Kwai did more.
Vince should have done much more in T.O, but no dog in him like Kwai. His skill as a player and he had those special-ups like Jordan Is what anyone who played ball will recognize and love.
Vince was NEVER the best player!!!!!
McCants get him off the show...... He's str8 garbage juice
Gilbert if Vince have your mentality, he'd be shooting his teammates.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Pew! Pew!
Who Gil shot?
Kmsl. I actually laughed out loud at this comment.
He was great for New Jersey Nets , check the highlights
No, Vince wasn't. The Nets went to the Finals twice, traded for him, and never went back.
@@emperorvalor7839 The East just got better. That Nets team was ass in the finals, and got beat down twice.
@@Turk_2023 The East was STILL ass. Adding Vince Carter should've gotten them back.
@@emperorvalor7839 East teams won a couple of those rings though before Kidd/RJ left... Wade/Shaq, and Pistons. Was a long time ago, hard for me to remember clearly.... I think injuries piled up. I forget. Didn't Lebron beat them in the 2nd round ?
I'm taking Vince over Gilbert any day
And ALL the days
“It really embodies the *stench* we’re aiming for.”
Never change Neuro. Lmao
Put Vince on a team with Shaq and he'd have rings too.
Penny aint got no rings cuz of Shaq. Van Exel, Eddie Jones, Kobe off the bench & Shaq. All 4 were All Stars that season. No ring. Shipped Nick & Eddie out. Enter The Black Mamba full time. 3peat. Later on, no Shaq, back 2 back. Kobe was the 2nd best SG ever. Vince is arguably 6th-8th. Iverson is #3, Wade #4, TMac #5. But could be #4. Vince is #6 but Drexler could be #6, Klay could be #6. Then there's Pierce, Mitch Richmond, R. Allen, B. Roy in no particular order. But post MJ, Kob is clearly, that guy. Nobody is gonna swap Kob for Vince just to claim that he would have rings with Shaq as if Kobe could be replaced with the #6-#8 guy at their position when Kobe was actually more valuable than Shaq. Shaq didn't win shit until Kobe emerged. Shaq would've been the goat if he wasn't lazy. & Vince, Tracy, AI & Penny who was a PG were all more naturally talented than Kobe. But Kobe work ethic along with his maniacal will as a competitor made him the most complete & even more skilled than even MJ & with deeper range with his jumper & had better handles which was a weakness in Vince game. But MJ & Vince athleticism was stupid!!! & MJ was just 1 of 1& the goat. But MJ & Kobe the most cold blooded killers out of everybody. Larry Joe Bird would break your heart too!!! But I must say that the SG in MJ era were weak & usually spot up shooters & the 4th-5th option on the team. Craig Ehlo, Jeff Hornacek, Danny Ainge, Hersey Hawkins, Nate McMillan, Bobby Phills, Kendall Gill, Blue Edwards etc. Come on man. It probably still wouldn't have made a difference because MJ was that cold. & he reinvented the SG position. Kobe's era had the coldest collection of SG's ever!!! They ended up being the go-to-guys who took the most shots & could handle the ball & create their own shots & were the best athletes on the team. MJ started that shit. A SG who would be the 4th-5th option isn't good enough for the NBA now days. They are required to have a totally different set of skills now. Just imagine Hornecek trying to guard MJ. Now imagine Kobe having to stay in front of Iverson, being guarded by 6'9 TMac who could score from anywhere on the court & jumping higher than Kobe. Then there's Vince he has to face the next night who was strong as a bull with unlimited hops!!! & could shoot like a MF. JR Rider, Latrell, Allan Houston, Eddie Jones, Kerry Kittles, Derek Anderson, Doug Christie, Cuttino Mobley, Iggy, Stackhouse & some guy named LEBRON JAMES. A SF/PG/SG the size of a PF who is top 3-5 with goat numbers who has been the best player for the longest amount of time & counting. Kobe had to face these guys every night for 20 years. & he's the 1 MJ loved like a lil brother & who he would choose to go thru a door with hands down over all of these other cats. & cried like a baby at Kobe & Gigi's memorial service. I said all of this to say. DON'T COME FOR KOBE AGAIN!!! NOT WITH VINCE CARTER OR ANYBODY ELSE!!! I love Vince, but Vince cant fuck with Kob!!! Los Angeles stand up!!! & rest well Kob & Gigi........MAMBA OUT
No tf he would not lmao Vince is not no damn Kobe
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Ain't nobody reading all that shit Pimp. Be smooth
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You niggas just talk to talk.
@@andrem.thomas332Vince didn't have the same mentality as kobe. That mf played no defense and Phil Jackson would've hated that mf like he hated coaching Carmelo. Vince probably wins 1 with Shaq but he definitely ain't winning with Pau
This Dude Crazy Vince was Cold in college and the Pros.
Gilbert Arenas should not speak on Vince Carter's name... positive or negative. Gilbert is not in the same League/Level.
One half of the elevator men!
Bro was in the league across 3 decades
4 decades, 90’s, 00’s,10’s, 20’s
What's the background instrumental
The idea that Vince was the "best in the league" is laughable. He was really good but that 2000 year he wasn't better than Iverson or Shaq, or honestly probably not Duncan either.
Probably Duncan? lol, AI was never better than Duncan, an MVP doesn’t change that.
From 99-05, either Shaq or Duncan were the leagues best player
@@hardwoodthought1213 My point was that it was very early in Duncan's career. I don't take issue with a "Duncan was the best player in basketball" argument.
Gil smoking crack. Everybody in the league wanted to be vince in 2000. There was a serious question on who the better player was, Vince or Kobe at the time.
Thank you... Gill outta pocket for this
Gilbert a legend in his own mind.
Gil tripping Vince went crazy!!!
Y’all missing his point yes he was a dope player but he didn’t have that dawg in him like Kobe KG Ai etc..too push into a greater player
For a year or 2. He fell off. I remember keeping Track of him back then. I was convinced he was the second coming of Jordan.....
But it never happened
..he's still the most "talented" I've ever seen. I'm 48 this year. I saw Stockton and Malone when I was a kid in Utah. Saw Prime Shawn Kemp , And Dominique Wilkins.
@@Only1Feedie all of a sudden Iverson was a dawg no the fck he ain’t dude was clubbing instead of showing up to practice, the only dawgs I recall back in that era was Vince & T Mac both are in the same category as Kobe talent wise, Gil is only known for bringing a gun inside the NBA arena that’s it dude decline & pulled silly some antics these podcaster got y’all running around like sheep 🪤
@@willy2o976 he was 6’0 and played like he was 6’8 he left it all out on the court for like 44 minutes a game and lead a terrible roster to a finals appearance.Ur clueless.
Clooless
Best player in the league in 2001 is wild. But respect vince tho
Yoo Gil b wild wid his assessments!!! Vince Carter was a beast b4 injuries n trade!
I agree with Gil. I don't think VC was ever the best player in the league, but he was one of the best of them. He was entertaining as hell to watch, but I don't think that makes him better than someone like Tim Duncan.
Had he fixed his mindset and advanced his game like he did later in his career. He definitely would've had some MVPs and a couple finals rings
I'm a Toronto fan and watched Vince his entire career. You're right, at no point did Vince even sniff best player in the league.
Gil and McCants got two different perspectives. Cause Gil looks at the game like a hooper, he looks at everyone as how they can hoop as an individual and McCants looks at everything like playing the GAME of basketball, so he has the mindset that you don’t have to be the BEST hooper to be a good player if you’re making an impact for the TEAM on the floor. Crazy cause they’re both right about stuff in their own way, the difference is usually the person who thinks like Gil is the one who gets the chips and becomes a superstar. If Gil wasn’t so wild he would have had all that lol
You could not be further from the truth. Jordan has 6 titles killer mentality, as Gill says. While Bill Russell has 11, yes, 11 titles. Playing as a team player, as MaCants says!!! Magic, Bird, and Kareem were all team players.jordan is an outlier. Because of the expansion of the league. And rule change.
@@HasanMustafaa-en1tj Jordan literally won as a team player.
And Gil is a moron. What was his mentality? Getting in mexican standoffs in his locker room and telling cops he cant be arrested cause hes a ball player lmfao.
Dude actually got mentally broken by lebron of all guys. Choked them free throws and was never the same. Great mentality.
Bill Russell played against fucking 5'9 plumbers bro. Stop it
@@HasanMustafaa-en1tjBill definitely had a killer mentality, I mean he had to compete with Wilt for dominance and we all know how Wilt was
@@trkymoovsmacsome were service members but all were professionals that were on the floor to compete
Vince was WAY better than Gil, no debate + he's a HOF'er, while Gil's at home talking about him
Gil calling someone lazy is mind blowing 😂😂😂
Reassemble your mind. He never said he was lazy
@@DNOTE831 but gil was known for being very lazy lmaooo
@@DNOTE831bro the first words in this clip is Arenas saying "i would cut vince, cus he would be the laziest out of all of them"
@@KumoGoesFast you proved my point
@@DNOTE831 bro hitting me with "i never called you a bitch, i just said you acting like one" 😂
Half Man Half AMAZING
If Vince would've had a decent team or a older mcgrady he could've had 30 plus average easy but he was doing it on his own with the raptors and nets give him a Shaq and I guarantee everyone shut there mouths then.
The craziest thing is you can say vince made the nets worse. They want to the finals back to back years without him. When they got Vince he was suppose to elevate them but he didn't
Vince Carter was never best in the league, he didn’t have a winning mentality. Same with McGrady.
'Lazy' is a helluva word to describe anybody who makes it into the NBA and lasts over 20 years.
Everybody doesn't have to be Jordan/Kobe.
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If you don’t want to win championships and sure
He crazy vince was goated in a crazy competition wit kobe, mj, ai
To add to his mentality? LeBron whispered in his ear about missing free throws and he missed both. Vince Carter put the Raptors on the map people wanted to watch them. NOBODY EVER THOUGHT OF Zero like that EVER
This isn't about gil, Vince had everything, he let it go because he never wanted it. Gil is very open about his shortcomings but when he speaks the truth you try to insult him
Saying we weren't watching the wizards for agent 0 before the gun is just lying at this point
Is he smoking crk vc was batter then u will ever be .he really didn't have the pics he need it if so omg. I think they new when he was jumping out the jm like that let's not bill around him 2 much.
U never could be Vince Gilbert!
Mfs can’t listen or read 😂 when did he say he was??? Alot of yall listen to respond instead of listening to understand
Vince had a squad when he was in NJ. He did not need to score like Iverson. Vince had Kid, Rj, and kristic. What they needed was Allen for Rj.
That was my favorite team to play with on NBA Live 05
Ehhh, They were mediocre respectfully
@@ventotv3654 your smoking crack, your dismiss
If i could have any nba legends skills, Dominique Wilkins all day.
I'll take MJ.
MJ was Micheal Myers on the hardwood! “He was the Shaq of shooting Guards!”, Reggie Miller
Respect. These young cats don't know about Wilkins and many others. MJ is the 🐐 but that's all they know because of his brand, name and legendary status.
Real ones know there were many killers back then. MJ was just the most lethal 💯
Gil is right Vince was set to be the next MJ and as great as he was looking how that worked out
That's why I can never take this dude seriously
When was vincd Carter ever best player 💀🤣. Shaq from 2000- 2003 was best player then 2004 - 2007 was tim/ Dirk
Duncan. Then 2008-2010 it was Kobe / Lebron dude was never the best
@@gorcsauce696McCant doesn’t seem to have ever seen an nba game played it’s like his memory was wiped by the MIB