Pretty please listen to the original Fisher version first! I used to rave to it before Ren raps over it! Keep in mind that when Ren's song says retake, it's a cover if an homage.
Yup. There are some where the genre is too far from what I otherwise listen to, but even if they’re not going on repeat I can still appreciate that they’re great for what they are.
If you do chalk outlines. Make sure it's the live one! Sick boi is a great rap song of Ren's. I enjoy "power". It's more uplifting than some of his other songs.
Totally agree. I love all those. Illest is so great but you might get more out of it if you watch more of his older stuff first. There are a lot of callbacks to his other work in that song.
If you want his rap- The Hunger, Losing It, or Sick Boi if you want to actually be able to catch what he's saying at first go. 😅 Crutch Ft Bibi is before his diagnosis he explains it in the songs description. Ocean ft. Eden Nash has some rap, great vibe.
I'll be doing "The Hunger" soon. I keep seeing it recommended alongside "Genesis." You know, I really just want to listen to them all, I can't wait. Thank you for the recommendations!
Great content mate. Just the right amount of pauses , sound levels just right on the video and audio. 9/10 I would have given 10 but it seems Ren has them all.
Great reaction There's another song that follows Money Game part one and two called Crucify Your Culture and the bars and truth hit hard so I would strongly suggest a reaction
Genesis, Power & Loosing it (especially loosing it its just a fun song not really deep just hilarious but the rep skills in there are at a godzilla level when he goes beast mode.)
The thing is. The ancestors of the Shell oil company family were importing & selling 'Sea Shells' in England back in the 1830's. Then they became an oil company in 1907. The nursery rhyme 'She Sells Sea Shells' came from that back in the 1800's. Hence the link with the line in this song "Business economics in a nursery rhyme".
Another solid reaction. It’s almost criminal that you left subscriber count is so low, you’re one of the best at it. That first part where you were talking about putting our trust in politicians reminds of Psalms where it says, “It is better to trust in the Lord than to trust in mankind. It is better to hope in the Lord than to hope in princes” (politicians fit right in there).
Not sure I agree on the spreading fear as a tactic to make money during covid as there was very legit reasons to be scared, but there were definitely greedy bastards who took advantage of the situation when people were just trying to stay alive. Anyway Ren is just a genius. Continue down the rabbit hole! I recommend Crutch feat. Bibi and Freckled Angels ❤
It was also concerning to see the Chief Medical Advisor change his opinions so quickly. His opinion is supposed to be science based. But he'd speak, then change his opinion after the media ran their cycles. It just was all so dysfunctional, hard to think money didn't move some hands. Thank you for the recommendations!
Looking forward to Chalk Outlines (make sure it’s the live version) my two suggestions would be What You Want and his band The Big Push - I shot the sherif/road to Zion/Hip Hop. Great reactions new uk subscriber here…. Oh and couldn’t agree more with what you said about Covid ✌️✊
DeBeers did the lock em up make like there is a scarcity for Diamonds. DeBeers, founded by Cecil Rhodes in 1870, has been a highly successful and effective controller of the diamond market, having developed a unique purchasing and marketing cartel that has influenced prices in the market virtually undisturbed for almost a century. But the biggest trick they pulled was creating the concept of a Diamond engagement ring. Funny thing, multiple times a girl might get engaged before getting married & 2nd hand used market is crap as most end up thrown in a lake. Diamonds have an actual low intrinsic value not like gold or silver, they devalue by 50% immediately after retail purchase. Prior to DeBeers engagement ring "A Diamond Is Forever" campaign in 1948 only 10% of engagement rings had a Diamond now it's in the high 90's. Let's not talk about chocolate at Easter or Xmas presents
I like the Shakespeare analogy. Why would I tell you that? That S word really isn't in my vocabulary when it comes to people.🐱 I really haven't heard a Ren song that I didn't like. And I've listened to quite a bit. I think that it is his unique ability to blends different types of styles of music. To create a monster of a song. From chalk Outlines, you should go to The Hunger. Only if you want to hear him rap though. Lol
I think if he signs for a label at some point now hed have to be guaranteed creative freedom, itd be insane for a label to sign him and stifle him anyway tbh
@James Kelley ....Oh yeah, for sure, totally agree! You know he was signed by Sony when he was 16, right before he got Lyme disease, which was undiagnosed at the time, and because he was in so much pain and could hardly ever leave the house, Sony dropped him. Ren stated on Twitch recently, despite the agony he had to endure for a decade, the one good thing that came out of it was Sony dropping him. He said there's no way he'd be making the type of music he is now, if that hadn't happened, and not just the fact that he avoided being put through Sony's cookie cutter machine of what a proper pop star is supposed to look and sound like, but that so much of music, and art in general, comes from life experience, especially pain and suffering, that he thinks he couldn't have gotten to the depths musically that he has the last decade, until maybe he was in his 40s or 50s otherwise. I tend to very much agree with him on that too. ✌️
Could NOT have said it better, you are on point. Ren's description is insane.. he is SO talented! He does way more HipHop btw, His songs: The Hunger, Sick Boi, Illest of our time, Genisis, Losing it.. al great songs! Enjoy the rabbit hole
Chalk outlines is a great song my guy! That being said please please please react after to one of his rap songs. “The hunger”” genesis”illest of our time””losing it” all great songs too. The man is so talented you will not find any songs that are bad.
For rap. The hunger, sick boi, power, genesis, losing it, illest of our time, what you want. For absolutely beautiful songs with angelic voices, chalk outlines (live), how to be me (live), and my favourite is crutch with ren and bibi... Better get cracking bro! There is a LOT of Ren goodness out there to react to haha..
I agree with all the rap requests. "Crucify your culture" definitely check out as it is very political in an anti-government/money game sort of way. "The Hunger," "Losing it," "What you want," "Genesis," "Illest of all times". Sorry, there are no crappy ren songs lol
Okay, worst Ren song is Girls off his first album. IMO. And before y’all start hating on me, remember worst is a relative term. It’s still better than a lot of the crap the industry is trying to cram down our throats. And it was written by a young man, so gotta factor that in! 😊
My least favorite Ren sign is his newest, Illest of Our Time. Don't get me wrong it's great song, but it might be one that that might not get a 10 from you if that's what you looking for. I am looking for to do Chalk Outlines so keep on that!
Sorry fella, you're not going to find a Ren song you don't like. I've had exactly the same challenge and failed miserably. And I've been a fan for a long time.😂
They make it buy inside trading . The Politicians made it legal for them to do this . We however will go to jail for doing exactly what they have been doing for years .
Oh bro sorry to tell you there's no bad song he does his unique style that's why it's so good oh yeah do chalk outline, how to be and then if you want to hear some rap there's hunger, Genesis, there's another song....
They can buy stock and are given information when the stocks are going to rise or falThis is inside trading and illegal for the rest of us but not for the Politicians.
yeh, covid was more of an accedent of the biomedical industry, but a lot of that can be blamed on the fact they need to be the cheapest lab to do that stuf.
Your gonna be waiting a long long time for a crappy ren tune my friend! 4 and 0! Chalk outlines is a great choice next, I'd then recommend the hunger to see him rap rap, that will blow you away. Great reaction again. Diazepam is a good choice for a more radio friendly song, in terms of structure not what its about
Rens crappiest song ,according to Ren, is Satellite girl. He doesn't like it. I don't think it's that bad...It's quite old. But I don't think is a 10 lol. Anyway, 99.9% are 🔥
Watch his band Big push "Englishman in New york"- "Bongo Bong (Manu Chao cover)"- "I shot the sheriff-Road to Zion-Hip hop red braces version". you won't be disappointed.
Dammit, I wasn't going to comment on this reaction, just sit back and enjoy it, and no you're not losing me as a new sub, I don't cancel people for having an opinion, but despite supporting your freedom to have such opinions on covid, I feel obligated to inform you of how very wrong you are in that opinion..lol. Let me start off by mentioning that I am EXTREMELY passionate about the massive amounts of misinformation that surrounded covid and the pandemic, especially here in the U.S., I worked in emergency medicine / rescue for 27yrs, retiring just before covid hit from job related ptsd, and I've lost many young healthy brothers n sisters to covid, out there on the front lines, sometimes running over 20 calls in a 24hr shift, because people refused to take this virus seriously. So between my normal OCD, and the fact of being board out of my mind after retiring, I am not kidding when I say I spent the better part of a year, almost daily, doing hours of research and deep dives, on anything related to covid, and I had a lot of in roads still with many medical professional and scientists of all kinds, even a buddy at the CDC. I'm not trying to say I'm the ultimate expert on all things covid, but I know a lot more than the average bear. So I'm not going to get technical on the science and medicine side, if you have particular questions about chemistry, studies, biological etc.. aske away, I'm going to focus more on the societal and leadership handling of the pandemic. I also want to a say that I agree with you on govt. corruption, them weaponizing fear in order to control, the absurd amount of money U.S. politicians make and the pure slime that the lobbyists and that whole system is. Thing is, that can all be true, and the world still can get hit with a shitty situation via a pandemic or other worldwide natural disaster. I've also personally dealt with "big pharma" folks over the years, they're not my favorite type of people by a long shot. So when it comes to things like this, lets say you were 100% correct in your hypothesis that fear was stoked by the media and politicians about the pandemic, for what reason though?? The media for ratings/clicks which pleases their corporate owners, or the individual CEO and his/her board of directors, but how what would the cooperate/ruling class have to gain from a country split on how to react to the pandemic, causing hundreds of thousand of more illness deaths. Do you really think big pharma needed a vaccine to really start making money. Normally big pharma doesn't touch vaccines with a ten foot pole? There's no money in them, because they are subsidized by the govt. since their seen as a necessity for public health. The ONLY reason big pharma was interested this time, is because WHOEVER came up with a vaccine to the first worldwide pandemic in over a century was gonna make bank, what did you think would happen in this capitalist driven society There are only three pharmaceutical manufacturers in the U.S. that even produce vaccines, and they handle all of bulk of them, The U.S. Dept of Health is not some sinister govt. controlled group, they are merely a patchwork of underpaid, overworked, medical professionals in each state, that constantly has their funding cut, and still literally conduct daily business using fax machines and old dot-matrix printers in many states. Even though the CDC is high profile and directly linked to the federal government, they're mostly made up of dedicated doctors and scientists. So if the doctors and big pharma didn't stand to gain from a fear campaign, then who, the lobbyists? Wall Street? Nope, it was basically one person , and that was our leader at the time, because he can't ever admit that he is wrong or made a mistake, and other politicians, who made millions off the stock market after getting the inside scoop how bad it would get. So that president and those politicians, used the growing mistrust in our govt, big pharma and corporation elites, a well deserved mistrust, to muddy the waters of the real science and the medical community, until the point people didn't know who to believe, or just didn't have the time or interest to do proper research. Bottom line, the vaccine was not rushed, it had been in development since 2004. We account for 4% of the worlds population, yet we were responsible for 12% of the worlds covid deaths, which could have been significantly reduced if it wasn't for the sheer incompetence and utter lack of concern from trump. Lock downs and getting vaxes were NEVER mandated, and people not being able to stay home a few more weeks to a month, with the support of the president, directly caused our second wave, and the contributing factor to the economy taking a dump worse that it would have. Also there's no quotes about fear and controlling of the masses attributed to hitler, there was several misattributed quotes from hitler making the rounds during pandemic though. Ancient Egypt was aware of fear being a useful tool for control, Roman philosopher Seneca once said “There are more things…likely to frighten us than there are to crush us; we suffer more often in imagination than in reality.” John Adams wrote.. “Fear is the foundation of most governments”, but then again, Thomas Paine wrote "For this young country to succeed it will require advanced citizenship at every level. Voting for your preferred politician once every 2 or 4 years will not suffice.
You’ve not heard him rap? You’re in for a treat!!! LOSING IT / THE HUNGER / GENESIS are 🔥🔥🔥
I keep seeing those recommended. They'll definitely be in the near future.
@@themanweb Illest of our Time...
Pretty please listen to the original Fisher version first! I used to rave to it before Ren raps over it! Keep in mind that when Ren's song says retake, it's a cover if an homage.
Yes, you are 100%right, Ren is a 10! Great reaction 😊I highly recommend Ocean, Genesis, The Hunger, Losing It and everything else! 😊
I hate to tell you, but there are no crappy Ren songs
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Amen!
Yes
Even the Ren song that Ren himself doesn't like, Satellite Girl, is still good. 😂
Yup. There are some where the genre is too far from what I otherwise listen to, but even if they’re not going on repeat I can still appreciate that they’re great for what they are.
If you do chalk outlines. Make sure it's the live one!
Sick boi is a great rap song of Ren's.
I enjoy "power". It's more uplifting than some of his other songs.
Ocean, Humble, Love music series, Life is funny, and so many more. Good luck finding a bomb from REN
You wanna see him rap rap? Try Losing It (Fisher rap retake), Genisis, The Hunger or Illest of our Time.
Totally agree. I love all those. Illest is so great but you might get more out of it if you watch more of his older stuff first. There are a lot of callbacks to his other work in that song.
If you want his rap- The Hunger, Losing It, or Sick Boi if you want to actually be able to catch what he's saying at first go. 😅
Crutch Ft Bibi is before his diagnosis he explains it in the songs description.
Ocean ft. Eden Nash has some rap, great vibe.
I'll be doing "The Hunger" soon. I keep seeing it recommended alongside "Genesis." You know, I really just want to listen to them all, I can't wait. Thank you for the recommendations!
Great content mate. Just the right amount of pauses , sound levels just right on the video and audio. 9/10 I would have given 10 but it seems Ren has them all.
Well, that's the first 9 I've ever gotten. I don't know what to say. This might be the pinnacle for me, lol. Thank you for the support!
Great reaction
There's another song that follows Money Game part one and two called Crucify Your Culture and the bars and truth hit hard so I would strongly suggest a reaction
I appreciate the support, I'll definitely check it out. Thank you!
Genesis, Power & Loosing it (especially loosing it its just a fun song not really deep just hilarious but the rep skills in there are at a godzilla level when he goes beast mode.)
you might give em all 10's tho
If you want to see him rap try Illest of our time, Genesis or The hunger. I agree that Chalk Outlines is a great one to react to...
Ditto
I think I'll do "Genesis" after "Chalk Outlines." Thank you!
Fire
The thing is. The ancestors of the Shell oil company family were importing & selling 'Sea Shells' in England back in the 1830's. Then they became an oil company in 1907.
The nursery rhyme 'She Sells Sea Shells' came from that back in the 1800's. Hence the link with the line in this song "Business economics in a nursery rhyme".
I actually didn't know that. That really does change everything up a bit. Thank you for sharing.
Oh ren can rap rap! u got some surprises coming up!
Another solid reaction. It’s almost criminal that you left subscriber count is so low, you’re one of the best at it. That first part where you were talking about putting our trust in politicians reminds of Psalms where it says, “It is better to trust in the Lord than to trust in mankind. It is better to hope in the Lord than to hope in princes” (politicians fit right in there).
Not sure I agree on the spreading fear as a tactic to make money during covid as there was very legit reasons to be scared, but there were definitely greedy bastards who took advantage of the situation when people were just trying to stay alive.
Anyway Ren is just a genius. Continue down the rabbit hole! I recommend Crutch feat. Bibi and Freckled Angels ❤
It was also concerning to see the Chief Medical Advisor change his opinions so quickly. His opinion is supposed to be science based. But he'd speak, then change his opinion after the media ran their cycles. It just was all so dysfunctional, hard to think money didn't move some hands. Thank you for the recommendations!
If you liked this you’re gonna love Crucify Your Culture. Another absolute 🔥🔥🔥 track
Looking forward to Chalk Outlines (make sure it’s the live version) my two suggestions would be What You Want and his band The Big Push - I shot the sherif/road to Zion/Hip Hop. Great reactions new uk subscriber here…. Oh and couldn’t agree more with what you said about Covid ✌️✊
Thank you for the support! I'll do the live version for sure.
DeBeers did the lock em up make like there is a scarcity for Diamonds.
DeBeers, founded by Cecil Rhodes in 1870, has been a highly successful and effective controller of the diamond market, having developed a unique purchasing and marketing cartel that has influenced prices in the market virtually undisturbed for almost a century.
But the biggest trick they pulled was creating the concept of a Diamond engagement ring. Funny thing, multiple times a girl might get engaged before getting married & 2nd hand used market is crap as most end up thrown in a lake. Diamonds have an actual low intrinsic value not like gold or silver, they devalue by 50% immediately after retail purchase. Prior to DeBeers engagement ring "A Diamond Is Forever" campaign in 1948 only 10% of engagement rings had a Diamond now it's in the high 90's.
Let's not talk about chocolate at Easter or Xmas presents
For rap, check out The Hunger or Illest of our time. Just wait. 😂
I've got so many songs to listen to. I can't wait!
Great reaction!
For rap I'd start with Power or Life is Funny .
If not Illest of Our Time, Losing it, Genesis, Hunger... So many to choose from!
Dude if you haven't listened to "ocean" give it a go. It's super creative
I like the Shakespeare analogy.
Why would I tell you that? That S word really isn't in my vocabulary when it comes to people.🐱
I really haven't heard a Ren song that I didn't like.
And I've listened to quite a bit.
I think that it is his unique ability to blends different types of styles of music.
To create a monster of a song.
From chalk Outlines, you should go to The Hunger.
Only if you want to hear him rap though.
Lol
And THIS is why I hope he stays independent and doesn’t sign with a label! They would never allow this.
Loved your reaction!! Totally agree.
It depends on the label, if you got the juice, they'll let you do whatever you want.
I think if he signs for a label at some point now hed have to be guaranteed creative freedom, itd be insane for a label to sign him and stifle him anyway tbh
@James Kelley ....Oh yeah, for sure, totally agree! You know he was signed by Sony when he was 16, right before he got Lyme disease, which was undiagnosed at the time, and because he was in so much pain and could hardly ever leave the house, Sony dropped him. Ren stated on Twitch recently, despite the agony he had to endure for a decade, the one good thing that came out of it was Sony dropping him. He said there's no way he'd be making the type of music he is now, if that hadn't happened, and not just the fact that he avoided being put through Sony's cookie cutter machine of what a proper pop star is supposed to look and sound like, but that so much of music, and art in general, comes from life experience, especially pain and suffering, that he thinks he couldn't have gotten to the depths musically that he has the last decade, until maybe he was in his 40s or 50s otherwise. I tend to very much agree with him on that too. ✌️
Thank you for the support!
Yesss 😊
I think part two is even better than part one
Me too, that rhyme scheme about sea shells is amazing
Could NOT have said it better, you are on point. Ren's description is insane.. he is SO talented! He does way more HipHop btw, His songs: The Hunger, Sick Boi, Illest of our time, Genisis, Losing it.. al great songs! Enjoy the rabbit hole
11 out of 10 ! ...it's that good !
Ren & Sam ~this is a man's world is this week's banger...on repeat 😂😂😂
Thinking about adding an 11 on the scale just for Ren, lol
Ren~illest of our time. 🔥
Completely agree with you about how the VID was handled.
Spot on with the covid stuff bro! 👏👌🤌🔥
Top reaction dude, you just gained a subscribe 👊
Thank you for the sub, I really appreciate the support!
Chaulk outlines for sure! I have been groovin Power.
Chalk outlines is a great song my guy! That being said please please please react after to one of his rap songs. “The hunger”” genesis”illest of our time””losing it” all great songs too. The man is so talented you will not find any songs that are bad.
As always, great reaction bro! Wait till you get into his rap stuff! Will blow your mind!
For rap. The hunger, sick boi, power, genesis, losing it, illest of our time, what you want.
For absolutely beautiful songs with angelic voices, chalk outlines (live), how to be me (live), and my favourite is crutch with ren and bibi...
Better get cracking bro! There is a LOT of Ren goodness out there to react to haha..
I think I'll do Genesis after chalk outlines. Thank you for the recommendations!
@The Man yes! Genesis is great! Well they're all great. Some great in genesis, keep your ears open and mind awake haha
The Hunger..... Losing It........ What You Want 🤯🤯🤯
Great reaction..
I totally agree on the whole Covid thing 100%!!!
I read on another reaction video that shell oil started out selling sea shells on the sea shore
I saw someone comment about that. I had no idea.
@@themanweb me neither, it adds to the song when you know tho I think
Crutch by REN, not reacted to enough, amazing song/ video
I will make a note of that one for a future video. Thank you for the suggestion!
I agree with all the rap requests. "Crucify your culture" definitely check out as it is very political in an anti-government/money game sort of way. "The Hunger," "Losing it," "What you want," "Genesis," "Illest of all times". Sorry, there are no crappy ren songs lol
You are right. But this came out before covid Wow
But if you liked the social commentary in this song, check out Crucify Your Culture.
you're forgetting book deals, appearance/speech fees for politicians.
There is no song that's chappy lol I'm glad you enjoyed it
There are so many, but I think you need to go to Losing It for something completely different. You won't be disappointed.
Let’s give him some deduction for the typo then, otherwise you’re not gonna find any flaw in this song😂
Shoot, I didn't notice the typo. With this new information, I give it a 9.975
Okay, worst Ren song is Girls off his first album. IMO. And before y’all start hating on me, remember worst is a relative term. It’s still better than a lot of the crap the industry is trying to cram down our throats. And it was written by a young man, so gotta factor that in! 😊
Well, I think I'll have to do a reaction video to it. I need something to bring me back to earth with this guy.
My least favorite Ren sign is his newest, Illest of Our Time. Don't get me wrong it's great song, but it might be one that that might not get a 10 from you if that's what you looking for. I am looking for to do Chalk Outlines so keep on that!
Well I think I'll have to watch it. I need a reality check at some point.
Sorry fella, you're not going to find a Ren song you don't like. I've had exactly the same challenge and failed miserably. And I've been a fan for a long time.😂
i havent found a none banger. also im bald decided to stop fighting it 15 years ago. dhave my head now. its all good
Upchurch s spittin on first day out or do something bout it plz?
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They make it buy inside trading . The Politicians made it legal for them to do this . We however will go to jail for doing exactly what they have been doing for years .
Oh bro sorry to tell you there's no bad song he does his unique style that's why it's so good oh yeah do chalk outline, how to be and then if you want to hear some rap there's hunger, Genesis, there's another song....
It's a game don't be fooled
I've heard that Ren's own least favorite song in his catalog is Satellite Girl if you want to give him a less than 10!
I've seen a few people say that. I'll have to do it.
Inside trading that's how . We would be in jail if we did what thdy do. They make legal for thdm.
They can buy stock and are given information when the stocks are going to rise or falThis is inside trading and illegal for the rest of us but not for the Politicians.
Something mean!
😂🤣😂
Okay, now that's just too far, 😢
yeh, covid was more of an accedent of the biomedical industry, but a lot of that can be blamed on the fact they need to be the cheapest lab to do that stuf.
you haven't seen Ren rap fully yet. Ren loosing it. Hunger, what you want, genesis, there's many more
Your gonna be waiting a long long time for a crappy ren tune my friend! 4 and 0! Chalk outlines is a great choice next, I'd then recommend the hunger to see him rap rap, that will blow you away. Great reaction again. Diazepam is a good choice for a more radio friendly song, in terms of structure not what its about
Rens crappiest song ,according to Ren, is Satellite girl. He doesn't like it. I don't think it's that bad...It's quite old. But I don't think is a 10 lol. Anyway, 99.9% are 🔥
Well, I just need to find something to bring me back to earth with him, lol.
Bad Ren to Good Ren, on not being original "we've heard it all before Ren She sells sea shells".....etc, this song is what he was referring to
Watch his band Big push "Englishman in New york"- "Bongo Bong (Manu Chao cover)"- "I shot the sheriff-Road to Zion-Hip hop red braces version". you won't be disappointed.
Mbfahk😂😮😅😊
Check Sick Boi out bro
Dammit, I wasn't going to comment on this reaction, just sit back and enjoy it, and no you're not losing me as a new sub, I don't cancel people for having an opinion, but despite supporting your freedom to have such opinions on covid, I feel obligated to inform you of how very wrong you are in that opinion..lol.
Let me start off by mentioning that I am EXTREMELY passionate about the massive amounts of misinformation that surrounded covid and the pandemic, especially here in the U.S., I worked in emergency medicine / rescue for 27yrs, retiring just before covid hit from job related ptsd, and I've lost many young healthy brothers n sisters to covid, out there on the front lines, sometimes running over 20 calls in a 24hr shift, because people refused to take this virus seriously. So between my normal OCD, and the fact of being board out of my mind after retiring, I am not kidding when I say I spent the better part of a year, almost daily, doing hours of research and deep dives, on anything related to covid, and I had a lot of in roads still with many medical professional and scientists of all kinds, even a buddy at the CDC. I'm not trying to say I'm the ultimate expert on all things covid, but I know a lot more than the average bear.
So I'm not going to get technical on the science and medicine side, if you have particular questions about chemistry, studies, biological etc.. aske away, I'm going to focus more on the societal and leadership handling of the pandemic. I also want to a say that I agree with you on govt. corruption, them weaponizing fear in order to control, the absurd amount of money U.S. politicians make and the pure slime that the lobbyists and that whole system is.
Thing is, that can all be true, and the world still can get hit with a shitty situation via a pandemic or other worldwide natural disaster. I've also personally dealt with "big pharma" folks over the years, they're not my favorite type of people by a long shot.
So when it comes to things like this, lets say you were 100% correct in your hypothesis that fear was stoked by the media and politicians about the pandemic, for what reason though??
The media for ratings/clicks which pleases their corporate owners, or the individual CEO and his/her board of directors, but how what would the cooperate/ruling class have to gain from a country split on how to react to the pandemic, causing hundreds of thousand of more illness deaths. Do you really think big pharma needed a vaccine to really start making money. Normally big pharma doesn't touch vaccines with a ten foot pole? There's no money in them, because they are subsidized by the govt. since their seen as a necessity for public health. The ONLY reason big pharma was interested this time, is because WHOEVER came up with a vaccine to the first worldwide pandemic in over a century was gonna make bank, what did you think would happen in this capitalist driven society There are only three pharmaceutical manufacturers in the U.S. that even produce vaccines, and they handle all of bulk of them,
The U.S. Dept of Health is not some sinister govt. controlled group, they are merely a patchwork of underpaid, overworked, medical professionals in each state, that constantly has their funding cut, and still literally conduct daily business using fax machines and old dot-matrix printers in many states. Even though the CDC is high profile and directly linked to the federal government, they're mostly made up of dedicated doctors and scientists.
So if the doctors and big pharma didn't stand to gain from a fear campaign, then who, the lobbyists? Wall Street? Nope, it was basically one person , and that was our leader at the time, because he can't ever admit that he is wrong or made a mistake, and other politicians, who made millions off the stock market after getting the inside scoop how bad it would get. So that president and those politicians, used the growing mistrust in our govt, big pharma and corporation elites, a well deserved mistrust, to muddy the waters of the real science and the medical community, until the point people didn't know who to believe, or just didn't have the time or interest to do proper research.
Bottom line, the vaccine was not rushed, it had been in development since 2004.
We account for 4% of the worlds population, yet we were responsible for 12% of the worlds covid deaths, which could have been significantly reduced if it wasn't for the sheer incompetence and utter lack of concern from trump. Lock downs and getting vaxes were NEVER mandated, and people not being able to stay home a few more weeks to a month, with the support of the president, directly caused our second wave, and the contributing factor to the economy taking a dump worse that it would have.
Also there's no quotes about fear and controlling of the masses attributed to hitler, there was several misattributed quotes from hitler making the rounds during pandemic though. Ancient Egypt was aware of fear being a useful tool for control, Roman philosopher Seneca once said “There are more things…likely to frighten us than there are to crush us; we suffer more often in imagination than in reality.” John Adams wrote.. “Fear is the foundation of most governments”, but then again, Thomas Paine wrote "For this young country to succeed it will require advanced citizenship at every level. Voting for your preferred politician once every 2 or 4 years will not suffice.
Yep all a con.