Yes. Also the jump from 15deg stone angle to 5 really confuses me. Why does the level suddenly change in the next shot without moving the slide. 1:20 - 2:00 ish.
@@cryptocred5754 ... the guy in the video holds his phone upside down. The top of the phone should be facing away from you to get a correct reading ... thats why the displayed -5 is in reality +5.
My written instructions are terrible. I was so frustrated trying to understand which digital protractor to use, and how to align the angle. I have it on my counter but haven't gotten started yet.
The cutting stroke should definitely be TOWARDS the knife and NOT away from it. I would like to see how the strop is used and also WHAT is the hard green stuff that comes in the kit used for???
It seems that unless the cross section angle of the blade (the body of the blade, not the edge) matches the angle of the two sides of the clamp, such that the entire side of each side of the clamp is flat against the side of the blade, there is a very good chance that the edge angle set on one side of the blade not be the same as the edge angle on the other side of the blade. The weak part of this system is the knife clamp.
@@wasabiknives no they’re actually not. Currently trying to figure out what I’m doing wrong and by the look of the comments I can’t fix my problem unless I buy the knifes you guys sell. Joke company
@@christopherohl1509 All you have to do is bend the side of the clamp that doesn't have the 3 screws to loosen across the middle of it. That one is slightly off from the other by about 2 degrees. Some guys have shimmed where the screws are with washers or whatever, but I found I could just bend the metal enough to make it match up on both sides. Just keep going back and forth with an angle finder, it's a pain in the ass because you'll have to keep tightening things down to check it, then check it again with a knife clamped in and see which way it needs to be bent, but eventually if your patient and make small adjustments, then take the time to properly clamp it down and check the angle with a good angle finder app, you'll get it so it reads within a 10th of a degree on both sides. Not the best set up straight out of the box, I had to fix the clamp between the stone holder handle and the steel guide rod too, but with a little preventative tweaking it can be made to work very well and be pretty damn accurate.
So, most Japanese knives are at 10 degrees or so. German knives are at about 14 degrees or so. Wasabi's are at 20 I guess. I work on a bandsaw and scroll saw so I have a digital angle finder. Set it on the blade - zero it. Then set it on the cross bar that holds the wet stone and set that at your 10, 14 or 20 degrees. Simple this way. You can set the angle any where you want it.
It's the measure app that comes pre-installed on any iPhone. Not sure about Android or any other cell phone manufacturer. That said it's easy to get an angle finder from Home Depot, etc.
ummm arent you supposed to go the opposite way when sharpening with a stone? meaning it looks like your grinding down and away from the edge when your really supposed to go towards the edge . so pressure when pushing forward .
No. You can work both ways. Towards the edge is preferable for new users on bench stones because you're less likely to ruin the edge or stone if you shift the angle too steep.
What protractor app are they referring to? How do you know which stone grit to use? How do you know what angle your particular knife is meant to be at? Are we supposed to know that already? Extremely unclear! Not in the written instruction or the video! Excited to have this and use this but where are the instructions for that?!
@@dosgatosdesignsllc848 Hey mate. I've been using it with the push rather than pull motion (as per instructions) and it works really well. This is a great sharpening tool. I have to warn guests who help with dinner to be careful because the knives are sharp, dangerously sharp to those who aren't used to them!
Use a black magic marker across the knife edge. Then run your stone over the edge once or twice just to check if the angle of the stone matches the knife edge angle by looking at what of the marker was removed. I go one step farther by using a 10x magnifier or (photographers loupe) to examine the knife edge angle relationship to the sharpening stone angle.
the same app they use to steal content from Outdoors55. Wasabi, go make that shit right you scamming turds. You can't just take content without compensation.
Bend it a little and keep retightening and checking until both sides are the same, and also check both sides with a knife clamped into it. Some guys have added small shims where it screws on but I found that a slight bend in the right direction trued things up to within a 10th of a degree difference from one side to the other.
I think Spyderco knives have a 15 degree grind and a 20 degree micro bevel (per side). That’s the impression I get after watching their sharpening video.
I found this nearly impossible to figure out the angle. How do I know what angle my knives need? Why did they promote this like it’s so easy anybody could do it. I just wanna sharpen my damn knives! It’s misleading. I couldn’t understand how to figure out the angle. I don’t want to ruin my knives. This video is a very little help. The product is too complicated for the average person. I hate that I bought into this BS.
It‘s the quality that matters. We put a lot of afford to get a precise angle and high quality stones. If you have cheap stones or a bad quality product you won‘t get the results you are looking for. Our sharpener is the best tool to get your knives razor sharp straight out of the box.
Buenas tardes , tengo un problema y no sé si a vosotros os pasa lo mismo , por un lado me mide un ángulo y por el otro mide otro distinto, se va bastante digamos que lo pongo a 17.50 y por el otro ma marca 10.50 . Todo esto poniendo el angulometro en la pletina arriba de dónde va la piedra. Muchas gracias de antemano y saludos.
I use the level part of the measuring app on an iPhone. If you tap it you can zero the angle to the clamp then just adjust your angle 215 to 20° or whatever you like
Hi Everyone, I am a novice at this, when it mentions a protractor, what app is the simplest to use? So, once you set this up it's already at 15 degrees?
Any app that shows the tilt of your phone will do. The point about the 15° angle is that the knife is already tilted at a +15° angle. Therefore you need to take that into consideration to achieve the desired sharpening angle. Example : target 20° sharpening. then the whetstone needs to be tilted an additional +5° to get to 20° (15+5 = 20). If the target is 12°, then the whetstone should be tilted -3° (15-3=12)... etc... etc... its pretty simple maths actually ...
Thank you everyone. I had fun sharpening the knives, but after a while the wheatstones get this dark residue from the sharpening procedure and can’t seem to get it off easily. Any ideas other than wiping them down with water and a cloth?
So if I’m sharpening an Asian made knife and they’re usually at 15 degrees, the angle on the phone app should be at 0 since the holder,has it at 15 already?, my reason for asking is that I have tried that and the angle of the sharpening seemed off. I did the marker on the edge and got it close but I just wanted to make sure I was doing correctly. Thanks
A guess at doing it without measuring it would be that if you are depending on the 15 degree angle of the frame, you would set the arm horizontal, ie, parallel to the table, since the two angles between parallel lines bisected by a diagonal line are the same. But that's just the way it seems to me.
Depends on what the knife is for. If it's something that you would be using like a woodsman's knife you want a large angle so that the edge is stronger but less sharp. If you want something like a razor you want a smaller angle so it's as sharp as possible (But the edge will be weak)
This is AWESOME I have my blades razor sharp!
It's strange that the written instructions that come with the tool vastly differ from the way this video says to do things
Yes. Also the jump from 15deg stone angle to 5 really confuses me. Why does the level suddenly change in the next shot without moving the slide. 1:20 - 2:00 ish.
@@cryptocred5754 ... the guy in the video holds his phone upside down. The top of the phone should be facing away from you to get a correct reading ... thats why the displayed -5 is in reality +5.
My written instructions are terrible. I was so frustrated trying to understand which digital protractor to use, and how to align the angle. I have it on my counter but haven't gotten started yet.
Many routes to a destination is what the old timers would say
The cutting stroke should definitely be TOWARDS the knife and NOT away from it. I would like to see how the strop is used and also WHAT is the hard green stuff that comes in the kit used for???
It seems that unless the cross section angle of the blade (the body of the blade, not the edge) matches the angle of the two sides of the clamp, such that the entire side of each side of the clamp is flat against the side of the blade, there is a very good chance that the edge angle set on one side of the blade not be the same as the edge angle on the other side of the blade. The weak part of this system is the knife clamp.
Angles on both are the same.
@@wasabiknives can you go lower than 15 degrees?
@@wasabiknives no they’re actually not. Currently trying to figure out what I’m doing wrong and by the look of the comments I can’t fix my problem unless I buy the knifes you guys sell. Joke company
@@christopherohl1509 All you have to do is bend the side of the clamp that doesn't have the 3 screws to loosen across the middle of it. That one is slightly off from the other by about 2 degrees. Some guys have shimmed where the screws are with washers or whatever, but I found I could just bend the metal enough to make it match up on both sides. Just keep going back and forth with an angle finder, it's a pain in the ass because you'll have to keep tightening things down to check it, then check it again with a knife clamped in and see which way it needs to be bent, but eventually if your patient and make small adjustments, then take the time to properly clamp it down and check the angle with a good angle finder app, you'll get it so it reads within a 10th of a degree on both sides. Not the best set up straight out of the box, I had to fix the clamp between the stone holder handle and the steel guide rod too, but with a little preventative tweaking it can be made to work very well and be pretty damn accurate.
Please show stropping next
How do you know what angle to use? And which protractor?
I know klein tools has a digital protractor set it up at 20°
So, most Japanese knives are at 10 degrees or so. German knives are at about 14 degrees or so. Wasabi's are at 20 I guess. I work on a bandsaw and scroll saw so I have a digital angle finder. Set it on the blade - zero it. Then set it on the cross bar that holds the wet stone and set that at your 10, 14 or 20 degrees. Simple this way. You can set the angle any where you want it.
Frustrating no app that isn’t paid to just get the angle
Whats the app called
Thank you for this video. You answered my questions with great efficiency. 👍👍
Hello!
Great video!
If you could be so kind, can you mention which app you were using?
It's the measure app that comes pre-installed on any iPhone. Not sure about Android or any other cell phone manufacturer. That said it's easy to get an angle finder from Home Depot, etc.
What app is he using to check the angle
Level
ummm arent you supposed to go the opposite way when sharpening with a stone? meaning it looks like your grinding down and away from the edge when your really supposed to go towards the edge . so pressure when pushing forward .
No. You can work both ways. Towards the edge is preferable for new users on bench stones because you're less likely to ruin the edge or stone if you shift the angle too steep.
@@jasons407 WRONG!
Ever watch water stones being used? They leave the blade in contact with the stone and go back and forth.
@@jeffreyphillips9303 Why is it wrong?
@@jeffreyphillips9303shut up jeffery, he's right
What protractor app are they referring to? How do you know which stone grit to use? How do you know what angle your particular
knife is meant to be at? Are we supposed to know that already? Extremely unclear! Not in the written instruction or the video! Excited to have this and use this but where are the instructions for that?!
If you have an iPhone it’s the Measure app then you choose level.
Maybe some masking tape on the handle to keep from scarring the bolster or handle? Nice sharpener, straight forward video.
The kit comes with plastic faceplates for between the blade holders with some double sided tape to hold it on. 👍
What is the sequence of the stones to use
Thankyou
I thought in sharped on the push motion rather than the pull?
Yeah, at least that's what the written instructions that came with the tool said.
@@dosgatosdesignsllc848 Hey mate. I've been using it with the push rather than pull motion (as per instructions) and it works really well.
This is a great sharpening tool. I have to warn guests who help with dinner to be careful because the knives are sharp, dangerously sharp to those who aren't used to them!
How do you figure out the proper angle for each knife? Is it stamped on the knife? Do I just eye it or choose my own angle for what I want it to do?
Use a black magic marker across the knife edge. Then run your stone over the edge once or twice just to check if the angle of the stone matches the knife edge angle by looking at what of the marker was removed. I go one step farther by using a 10x magnifier or (photographers loupe) to examine the knife edge angle relationship to the sharpening stone angle.
Good idea 😅
Is it possible to under 15°? I have german knives with 14° and 10° factory edges. If it is possible how do you do it
Imposible.. This is useless.. Better buy bench grinder.
I have double edge knives will there be any issues with them?
How did the stone magically get connected? this is what I came forlol
I had this problem too. The black handle needed to be slid down in my case in order for the stone to fit.
Where do I get the angel app on my phone WTF I’ll never order this again no good instructions
Any app store, there are many available. I don't believe Wasabi makes one for the sharpener.
Where do we get the oil stones 3,000-10,000 and leather? Is there an accessory that you guys make for this?
We also offer them in our store :)
@WASABI knives What is the app being used in this video to measure the angle?
The app is called "Measure", this is a native iOS app, so it is pre-installed on every iPhone.
@@wasabiknives Greetings,
Do you know the name of an Android app which uses the Android 'phone flat on it's back as opposed to on edge?
Thank You.
@@wasabiknives please provide an Android app. The angles seem off with all the protractor apps out there. Thanks.
I also do NOT have an iPhone What is the Android app I should use. The one's I've tried don't do the job.
the same app they use to steal content from Outdoors55. Wasabi, go make that shit right you scamming turds. You can't just take content without compensation.
thanks bra
what phone app is used to set angle?
What app do you use????
How can I check my lower plate to see if it's correct? If it not correct, how do I correct it?
Bend it a little and keep retightening and checking until both sides are the same, and also check both sides with a knife clamped into it. Some guys have added small shims where it screws on but I found that a slight bend in the right direction trued things up to within a 10th of a degree difference from one side to the other.
What angle are Spyderco blades?
Cutco blade angle?
I think Spyderco knives have a 15 degree grind and a 20 degree micro bevel (per side). That’s the impression I get after watching their sharpening video.
I didn’t receive the bronze nut. Otherwise I really loved the product
Are the stones exactly the same size as the Edge Pro stones?
I found this nearly impossible to figure out the angle. How do I know what angle my knives need? Why did they promote this like it’s so easy anybody could do it. I just wanna sharpen my damn knives! It’s misleading. I couldn’t understand how to figure out the angle. I don’t want to ruin my knives. This video is a very little help. The product is too complicated for the average person. I hate that I bought into this BS.
what makes the iki ruixin pro different from the other ruixin pros i see around?
It‘s the quality that matters. We put a lot of afford to get a precise angle and high quality stones. If you have cheap stones or a bad quality product you won‘t get the results you are looking for.
Our sharpener is the best tool to get your knives razor sharp straight out of the box.
Anyone know what size allen key this wants? My kit didn't have it included for some reason.
Do the diamond whetstone need to be soaked too?
No they can be used without being soaked.
What is the longest blade you can use this on?
Buenas tardes , tengo un problema y no sé si a vosotros os pasa lo mismo , por un lado me mide un ángulo y por el otro mide otro distinto, se va bastante digamos que lo pongo a 17.50 y por el otro ma marca 10.50 . Todo esto poniendo el angulometro en la pletina arriba de dónde va la piedra. Muchas gracias de antemano y saludos.
Sí, varias publicaciones aquí mencionan eso. La solución es poner cinta adhesiva en la placa inferior para igualar los ángulos.
What app is everyone using?
I use the level part of the measuring app on an iPhone. If you tap it you can zero the angle to the clamp then just adjust your angle 215 to 20° or whatever you like
Bubble Level by Pixel Prose, Free & no adds, works on both sides of phone plus sides.
Hi Everyone, I am a novice at this, when it mentions a protractor, what app is the simplest to use? So, once you set this up it's already at 15 degrees?
Any app that shows the tilt of your phone will do. The point about the 15° angle is that the knife is already tilted at a +15° angle. Therefore you need to take that into consideration to achieve the desired sharpening angle.
Example : target 20° sharpening. then the whetstone needs to be tilted an additional +5° to get to 20° (15+5 = 20).
If the target is 12°, then the whetstone should be tilted -3° (15-3=12)... etc... etc...
its pretty simple maths actually ...
@@jamc666 thanks capt obvious…now what app is the video using? I can’t seem to find one that allows me to have vertical tilt…
On an iPhone it is the measure app in utilities. My sharpener just hit the airline to the US. Can't wait to get it.
Thank you everyone. I had fun sharpening the knives, but after a while the wheatstones get this dark residue from the sharpening procedure and can’t seem to get it off easily. Any ideas other than wiping them down with water and a cloth?
@@jrtrejo495 Get a flattening stone
Strange. Why moves goes from up to down, not the opposite side? It is agains the blade, not with te angle of the blade in my opinion.
obviislw goes doon or th e hamg er sence is it not? Ha Ha
If that’s a single bevel Japanese knife, two separate angles will be needed. A 20° angle for BOTH sides isn’t what a single bevel is…
I have one and it doesn't hold a candle to manual sharpening...
What app do you use for the protractor
iphone has built-in called Measure.
This videos says to soak the stone for 5 minutes, the included instructions do not say that. Soak in cold water, warm, hot?
just neutral water
So if I’m sharpening an Asian made knife and they’re usually at 15 degrees, the angle on the phone app should be at 0 since the holder,has it at 15 already?, my reason for asking is that I have tried that and the angle of the sharpening seemed off.
I did the marker on the edge and got it close but I just wanted to make sure I was doing correctly. Thanks
A guess at doing it without measuring it would be that if you are depending on the 15 degree angle of the frame, you would set the arm horizontal, ie, parallel to the table, since the two angles between parallel lines bisected by a diagonal line are the same. But that's just the way it seems to me.
Can I get under 15 degree angles?
Is the initial sharpening angle the same for all knives, or is it "knife specific"?
Depends on what the knife is for. If it's something that you would be using like a woodsman's knife you want a large angle so that the edge is stronger but less sharp. If you want something like a razor you want a smaller angle so it's as sharp as possible (But the edge will be weak)
I would recommend around a 12-13 degree angle for kitchen knives, up to maybe around 21 degrees for your sturdier outdoor blades.
These work for butchers?
Hi rob please could you help me
Blz!
What app was used to measure the angle of the edge?
If you have an iPhone, there is an app called measure that is automatically incorporated with your phone
@@primosp1983 do you know what it's called for android
@@ashleymackenzie1432 I’m sorry I don’t. I would imagine you could search “level” in the App Store and there will be a bunch of them show up
The only angle that matters is the angle between the sharpening stone and the knife! The angle between the clamp holder and the bench is not relevant.
This is ABSOLUTELY the best video on how NOT to sharpen a knife. Everything your doing is WRONG.
You’re fun at parties.
*You're
Ur right. Going away from the blade edge is wrong