You can roll the dice and get these cheaper on AliExpress less than the $60 I paid on Amazon. The last time I ordered a Ruixin Pro on AliExpress it took 5 months to arrive. But if you can land one for under $20, make modifications and get better stones maybe just maybe things will work out? Also, I know any difference in sharpening angles when returning to the original side should be much smaller but all I can say is that it didn't seem to matter in this case.
Also, Also when I use the term water stone in this video I’m referring to soaking stones snd not splash and go. These stones are very porous and the grits under 1600 soak up water quickly, drying instantly using the method of wetting described in the instructions. The 6k and 10k stones here probably are essentially splash and go.
I have plenty of diamond stones for this model, really need to know if it does small knifes as well and will do consistent enough low angles.(Very sharp). Not how long it will last per say
hello, thank you for your review. Could your stone be premature wearing due to your direction? you are pushing the stone into the edge versus pulling across. Similar to how you doing it @ 9:15?
I used my Dremel tool to grind little flat spots on the vertical bar so when I tightened the doohikie to set the angle, it would stay. I also oiled the bar that attaches to the stone so it would slide smoothly through the ball. Mine works pretty well, but the angle is not the same on each side.
You can flatten all of the vertical bar in one side (start 1-2 inches above the thread and 2-3mm wide) with angle grinder or file and it will give the hinge bearing thumb nut area to grab allong that rod and it will prevent it from turning on the axis of the bar. if you have a small differences in the angle like 0.3 degree or so, it fixable with a light bump up so the pin that prevent the knife holder from turnning will be pushed slightly inward into the gap in one side. Regardless, I was surprised by the quality of the non-magnetic stainless steel rods they use, and the diamond stones are holding well.
I bought this sharpener knowing that if I made a few mods it would work pretty good and I wouldn't have to spend the money on a TSPROF. I knew the stones were shit. I bought stones directly from Boride and made a few mods to the sharpener. I now have about $180 invested and it's a very good system. The TSPROF is around $700.
So, I bought a version with diamond stones included, for about $39. There's only four, but they work well and don't wear at all. Not sure what wrong with your clamp, but mine holds the knife rock steady. The biggest mod challenge (and it wasn't big) was your observation about the set screws - the one that holds the gimbal arm in place (the one you adjust for different stone heights) just wouldn't stay tight by hand tightening. So...I super glued that one, lol. Its an interesting feature, but I can always check the angle of different height stones with my phone app and set accordingly, so that adjustment just wasn't that big a deal for me. I also ground a flat spot in the vertical rod about two inches long which makes that thumb set screw way more effective and gives me a sharpening angle option of 13-25 degrees, which is plenty for my purpose. It works really well now! So for $39 and about 10 minutes of mods, I have a rather functional sharpener. I may buy some higher grit diamond stones (highest that came with it was 1000), bit I'm super happy with this small investment
One concern with cases such as these is that the hinge is just a thin section of the plastic that makes up the case. This will crack after a while. So I wouldn't consider the case a pro.
I just got the kit with the shitty stones + the diamond ones. Should I expect the diamond stones to do a better job? Stupid beginner's question: do the diamond stones need watering too?
the cheap diamond stone sets that come with these kits or cost $30 seperately on amazon wear very, very quickly and usually don't have uniform grit. More expensive sets on gritomatic or TSPROF do well. No, they don't require water.
Thanks for the GREAT review and for saving me some money!!... Always love your stuff and learn a lot!!... Thanks for taking the time to educate folks like me... Much appreciated and much love to you and yours!!
For the average joe wanting a relatively inexpensive knife shatpener the stones should be fine. The problem to me seems to be how quickly the screws loosens when you use it. Perhaps set it up a permanent tool & use theread locker?
Ruixin stones have always been abyssmal. The grit ranges are no where near accurate, and they are garbage as far as wear. I completely agree with your assessment. Does it work ...... yes, will you be super frustrated once you understand more about sharpening...... yes.
Wow! This is my first time watching your review. In my option I think you did a helluva report . As I am watching and following your video I am somewhat dumbfounded because I have most recently ordered my kit. And oh boy I’m really looking forward to my delivery. Trying to give a positive thought, could it be possible that you simply for a lack of words got fuzz over? Well I better stop now because I am waiting my surprise any day now. I will keep you posted. I’m going to look at your other videos now. Thank you for your unbiased report. Bob
Die große Klemmplatte dient der Befestigung dicker Schleifsteine. Die Steine von Apex sind eine lohnenswerte Alternative zu den mitgelieferten Steinen.
Couldn't agree more with the overall conclusion of this review. The only Chinese sharpener I would whole heartedly recommend is the TooHR type 3 - but even that requires some adjustment to get the best from it. My only slight criticism - both in terms of the review and a couple of the comments - is people stating that the grits are marked incorrectly, and what finish you should be getting for a given grit. It's just a matter of different countries, or brands, or industries etc. using different grit scales. The Chinese industrial scale for abrasives is just different to what you may be used to. Now, these particular stones are bad, no question there, but the grit ratings? Not bad, or wrong, just different.
It's weird that your Ruixin Pro 009 only looks vaguely similar to mine. Mine (just purchased) seems to have a combination of features from the 008 and 009.
For hassle free quality they’re a pretty penny but TSProf and Kazak are the best. I’m still looking for a sub $100 system that’s trouble free. You can get decent stones for hand sharpening up to about 1500 grit for that money. Last time I looked, but that’s 3 years ago. Personally I like Arkansas stones.
I find to remove the wing nut and replace with a nut/ with locking nut if needed. To keep from moving. I agree that the stones sucks I only use gritomatic stones an works perfectly. Wish one was ceramic.
HMMM get your own stones from gritoamtic etc and buy the "no stone" kit and you're set?! I spent 380cad on my workshop and the clamp is worse than this lol if they used a nyloc nut there'd not be issues. maybe vibra-tite could fix it?
After watching this video decided to just build my own solid mounted sharpener in garage. In summary it’s all about holding angle and keep knife locked….
I bought one of the cheaper ones and Amazon and a set of surprising good straight and flat stones… will say I get a very consistent repeatable edge… proper care of the stones. BUT…and this is a warning for both the cheaper ones and ones like yours. That screw that holds the spring in place will move. And call out…. And the spring holder will become a bullet if your in the process of rotating… check the screw every time or use too much thread lock…
Dang I got a sharpener similar to this one for Christmas and I've used it once so far. I haven't had the problems with the sharpener itself yet but the stones it came with were also TOTAL TRASH! It really sucks asking for something as a gift and then having it kind of suck.
Memory card failures=a frustrating kick in the ole wrinkle beans.... I get that most of these companies saw how the tsprof caught lightning in a bottle, but in some cases imitation is not a form of flattery and it's just basic IP infringement for profit. And imo, the execution seems so poor they would have to know they are just gonna turn a quick, short profit before their reputation is so bad that it will fizzle.
Thanks for the review. Seems like we're all looking for the magic bullet that makes sharpening easier and faster, as well as the miracle that allows us to eliminate hand sanding. This clearly doesn't qualify as a magic bullet.
Well, this review scared me until I saw the ArtTema videos. Go watch his mods. I did them for the 008 and I will now for the 009. Yes this system is under engineered compared to the big ones. ArtTema takes each problem and engineers solutions that are easy to do. If you watch his sharpening sped clips up you see the unit stays rock steady. You can't fake that. I think this system asks for a light touch but how hard is that? The mod to increase the spring tension is simple and elegant. You have to watch the videos closely to pick up all he has done but it pays off. Stones are indeed garbage, but the diamond stones you can get cheap are pretty good. Forget the stones, don't laugh at them. $70 vs. $700 if you can even get them. The TSProf stuff is terrific, but do you know it's made in the same town as all the heavy military gear being used in Ukraine, which is why you can't get these units now.
sorry if this was just a bit snarky. No disrespect intended. I like your informal review style. If I could afford the TSProf Kadet I'd love it. But my little search into their operation suggested that there was likely some coziness between them and all the military production in their town. I guess you need engineering in abundance and at least the knife sharpening is a better use of it.
Some of what you say is wrong here. Firstly, the cost of the stones. You might pay $300 for 5 or 6 full size stones -- 8 inch by 2.5 inch by 1 inch. You won't pay that for these little 1 by 6 inch stones. Secondly, you can get whetstones that don't need soaking. Splash and go ceramic stones just need a splash of water and they're ready to go. Watch some videos on Shapton stones. Thirdly, it shouldn't take 'hundreds of passes' if you're using good stones. I can raise a burr on my Shapton stones after about twenty passes a side. Harder, powder metal steels will take longer, but nothing routinely takes hundreds of passes. Aside from those issues, I agree with the rest of your points. Sharpener looks like junk. You get what you pay for.
I have priced sets of stones for these systems at well over $500. Or you can get cheap sets that fit to 1000 grit for $40-$50. I own several shapton glass stones, Arkansas stones, ceramic stones, oxides stones, chosera, idahone, boride, diamond and have tried many inexpensive combo water stones. I know the difference between soaking, oil, splash and go because I own and use all of these types of stones. I sharpen knives I forge from 15 thou thickness to sharp and repair damaged blades regularly. I sharpen supersteels, I narrow angles. These things take many, many passes. It is often a hundred to 200 passes total.
man i've never seen stones THIS bad before to me a decent set of stones should last for at least 2 generations (i got mine from my grandfather) these are like the stones i use for cleaning my whetstones not for actual sharpening. personally this kit has some intresting features but has missed the ball on almost all of them which is gutting since with an hour of testing and some itterations it would be a decent sharpening kit.
seems like a knife would have been already sharpened by the time one of these contraptions is set up, plus you're working with a tiny sliver of stone. doesn't look well made either. thanks for the review.
Fantastic review, Steve! Thanks for the honesty! 😊 But yeah, even from China there are much better stuff to choose from! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Can the holder hold 4inch stone? Amazon has these for 37usd. LMAO i wouldnt pay anything over 20 for this sharpener. Sytool does have a knock off tsprof blitz for under 300usd.
By pushing the stone aginst the blade are you not cutting the stone with the knife insted of sharpening the edge with the stone? I believe thats why your loosing so much material?
Picky, picky, picky!😁 I'm not a knife maker, mostly strop or sharpen my knives by hand. When bringing back a damaged edge I have been using a Lansky diamond set for years.
I think the softer stones - in particular that 1500 - would last longer used purely in downstrokes, but as GB stated, that shouldn't be necessary, and the instructions didn't specify, so..... That said, I bought the Lansky recurve sharpening stones, and the two higher grit stones are just as soft as that 1500.
Pin point accuracy on the review. Junk. I'm trying the work sharp presently. It has 3 stones attached to the guide. Not impressed with it either. $45 so I cant complain too much. Great video buddy.
It’s hard finding a good sub $100 system! There’s some decent stones one can get to hand sharpen with to about 1500 or so. I tried out a bunch of $30 combo stones a couple years ago and found a few that did pretty good. There was a good Arkansas combo for about $50. You have to buy a few more to get up over 2000 grit. At any rate I have to think better manufacturing could prove the ruixin design for an extra $30 and there’d be s market for it.
It does explain to me a lot- I was sort of wondering why the very expensive versions of these made in place like Poland and Russia were made out of the things they are with what I was considering 'over engineered' components. Turns out they're not over-engineered, they're in the 'good as it needs to be' bracket of continuous use for such a tool and probably worth the money they cost... to someone, who isn't me. So it does actually answer a question I had in terms of "why it cost so much" because the alternative is that costing less means you get a bit of junk. Now take that box out of the garbage and make a knife out of the components or you'll trigger all them zoomie kids that accuse boomers like yourself of being wasteful and gretas will troll you on the internet.
I have one of these and it came with "diamond " stones and sand type stones. I was able to get very good results and bring back a terribly ruined kitchen knife, however I had to use very light pressure and keep the stone wetted. I can tell the stones arent great but the rest of it works just fine as long as you dont ham fist it and you oil the slider ( i used seed oil only because I use it around food). I can see how this product would fail with some kinds of users, personally I had no problem with it and my kitchen knives are all very very sharp and symmetrical now. I am surprised you didn't put a helicoil in it, break out a tig welder or 3d print a part for it. As for the cam mechanism stressing you out, there is nothing in the manual that says you have to push the lever all the way over. I got the feeling watching your video that you were trying to break it, and I found it entertaining, thank you for showing me what is going to break on this thing.
I would really love a knife sharpener like this for my collection but all the options out there are well above my price range. A lot of these devices are way over engineered and too expensive so I've been keeping an eye on your sharpened reviews. Even this, a simple and cheap to manufacture is still imo overpriced and not well made to boot. Perhaps I should be so stingy on a good sharpener but paying hundreds is just too much. Awesome video as always. I'll keep to hand sharpening for now but look forward to your next sharpener video!
As thr saying goes...you get what you pay for. Everyone had known for years that the Chinese stones on these type of systems are complete garbage...no surprises there. The whole point in getting a fixed angle system, is to have a fixed angle...this isn't. Just based on reviewers comments that points were loosening multiple times in same session speaks volumes. Thr blade pivot system was poorly thought out as well and is an accident screaming to happen. If your on a strict budget and don't sharpen many knives, the lansky system is a much better option...you can buy a base system for roughly the price of this crap. But if you have or sharpen many knives, bite the bullet and buy the best system you can afford and grow with it. For someone just getting started I would recommend one of the systems from hapstone, they are modular so you will never outgrow it. Another economical option is the work sharp precision adjust. Yes it's primarily a plastic build, but will likely outlast that cheap Chinese alloy. Best of luck on your sharpening journey.
Wow. So, to summarise, these things look good, like they will be brilliant, but in reality are annoyingly shitty pieces of crap. Nice to know, thank you!
You totally right. The system is total crap. No sCrews tighten. It all comes apart. The water stones grind to zero in One knife. Could ONLY do down stokes. Havent tried the diamond and AM sure they not. After having seen your video still made the mistake mater of budget. I mean it Will sharpen if you do 1 knife ir 2 a month. People dont make my mistake, save up and get a proper American made system.
You can roll the dice and get these cheaper on AliExpress less than the $60 I paid on Amazon. The last time I ordered a Ruixin Pro on AliExpress it took 5 months to arrive. But if you can land one for under $20, make modifications and get better stones maybe just maybe things will work out? Also, I know any difference in sharpening angles when returning to the original side should be much smaller but all I can say is that it didn't seem to matter in this case.
Also, Also when I use the term water stone in this video I’m referring to soaking stones snd not splash and go. These stones are very porous and the grits under 1600 soak up water quickly, drying instantly using the method of wetting described in the instructions. The 6k and 10k stones here probably are essentially splash and go.
Make your own version of it. I bet it’ll be 70 times better.
Luv your content green beet
Or perhaps, is there any other cheap model you would recommend over this one?
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I have plenty of diamond stones for this model, really need to know if it does small knifes as well and will do consistent enough low angles.(Very sharp). Not how long it will last per say
hello, thank you for your review. Could your stone be premature wearing due to your direction? you are pushing the stone into the edge versus pulling across. Similar to how you doing it @ 9:15?
No
@@GreenBeetleyes
I used my Dremel tool to grind little flat spots on the vertical bar so when I tightened the doohikie to set the angle, it would stay. I also oiled the bar that attaches to the stone so it would slide smoothly through the ball. Mine works pretty well, but the angle is not the same on each side.
You can flatten all of the vertical bar in one side (start 1-2 inches above the thread and 2-3mm wide) with angle grinder or file and it will give the hinge bearing thumb nut area to grab allong that rod and it will prevent it from turning on the axis of the bar. if you have a small differences in the angle like 0.3 degree or so, it fixable with a light bump up so the pin that prevent the knife holder from turnning will be pushed slightly inward into the gap in one side. Regardless, I was surprised by the quality of the non-magnetic stainless steel rods they use, and the diamond stones are holding well.
I bought this sharpener knowing that if I made a few mods it would work pretty good and I wouldn't have to spend the money on a TSPROF. I knew the stones were shit. I bought stones directly from Boride and made a few mods to the sharpener. I now have about $180 invested and it's a very good system. The TSPROF is around $700.
what else did you modifiy ?
What else did you modify?
yeah, spill it
how is it holding up?!
So, I bought a version with diamond stones included, for about $39. There's only four, but they work well and don't wear at all. Not sure what wrong with your clamp, but mine holds the knife rock steady.
The biggest mod challenge (and it wasn't big) was your observation about the set screws - the one that holds the gimbal arm in place (the one you adjust for different stone heights) just wouldn't stay tight by hand tightening. So...I super glued that one, lol. Its an interesting feature, but I can always check the angle of different height stones with my phone app and set accordingly, so that adjustment just wasn't that big a deal for me.
I also ground a flat spot in the vertical rod about two inches long which makes that thumb set screw way more effective and gives me a sharpening angle option of 13-25 degrees, which is plenty for my purpose.
It works really well now! So for $39 and about 10 minutes of mods, I have a rather functional sharpener. I may buy some higher grit diamond stones (highest that came with it was 1000), bit I'm super happy with this small investment
You had me incredibly confused at 9:45, then howling at 9:55. Thank you for the review!
For it's price $30 it's great buy for me! I just fixed the wobble issue with handmade nut made from cut aluminum beer can
The sharpner looks ok if you replaced the stones with something of higher quality.
On that 1500 grit stone, you have it backwards; the knife is sharpening the stone 🤪.
Heheh.
Bileme hareketini yavaş yapıyorsunuz başka videolarda çok hızlı hangi hareketi yapmalıyız kararsızım 🤔
You are an adult. You must make your own movements.
I get the vibe of those old Jankyard Wars shows from this. Ruixin had 15 minutes to digaround in a dump to find stuff to make a knife sharpener.
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I don't know, dude... Depending on the team they would make something MUCH better.
@MC's Creations You make a solid argument, good sir! There were indeed some extremely talented engineers and builders on those shows.
They really need to bring this show, or something like it, back! Imagine a modern adaptation where they're allowed 3D printers 🤔
@10:07 there's your handle!
hahaha!
One concern with cases such as these is that the hinge is just a thin section of the plastic that makes up the case. This will crack after a while. So I wouldn't consider the case a pro.
I have it with the diamond set for 30 bucks, with some small tweaks it's realy serve its purpuse, at least for me
I just got the kit with the shitty stones + the diamond ones. Should I expect the diamond stones to do a better job? Stupid beginner's question: do the diamond stones need watering too?
the cheap diamond stone sets that come with these kits or cost $30 seperately on amazon wear very, very quickly and usually don't have uniform grit. More expensive sets on gritomatic or TSPROF do well. No, they don't require water.
@@GreenBeetle thanx!
So, are you saying that I should probably KEEP my Tormek?
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Thanks for the GREAT review and for saving me some money!!... Always love your stuff and learn a lot!!... Thanks for taking the time to educate folks like me... Much appreciated and much love to you and yours!!
Great job! Can you please tell me what to buy then for 100 - 120 usd? I am newbie i dont have any sharpener.
That’s the question everyone is adking
For the average joe wanting a relatively inexpensive knife shatpener the stones should be fine. The problem to me seems to be how quickly the screws loosens when you use it. Perhaps set it up a permanent tool & use theread locker?
Ruixin stones have always been abyssmal. The grit ranges are no where near accurate, and they are garbage as far as wear. I completely agree with your assessment. Does it work ...... yes, will you be super frustrated once you understand more about sharpening...... yes.
Finally something to replace my wicked edge with
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Wow! This is my first time watching your review. In my option I think you did a helluva report .
As I am watching and following your video I am somewhat dumbfounded because I have most recently ordered my kit. And oh boy I’m really looking forward to my delivery.
Trying to give a positive thought, could it be possible that you simply for a lack of words got fuzz over?
Well I better stop now because I am waiting my surprise any day now. I will keep you posted.
I’m going to look at your other videos now.
Thank you for your unbiased report.
Bob
What is “fuzz over?”
That chattering travel noise was as bad as a fork being dragged across teeth or a super wet washcloth getting rung out.
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Die große Klemmplatte dient der Befestigung dicker Schleifsteine. Die Steine von Apex sind eine lohnenswerte Alternative zu den mitgelieferten Steinen.
Also I only ever go inward with the stones if I’m reprofiling due to knicks and damage… dragging gets that hood burr for stropping.
Couldn't agree more with the overall conclusion of this review. The only Chinese sharpener I would whole heartedly recommend is the TooHR type 3 - but even that requires some adjustment to get the best from it.
My only slight criticism - both in terms of the review and a couple of the comments - is people stating that the grits are marked incorrectly, and what finish you should be getting for a given grit.
It's just a matter of different countries, or brands, or industries etc. using different grit scales. The Chinese industrial scale for abrasives is just different to what you may be used to. Now, these particular stones are bad, no question there, but the grit ratings? Not bad, or wrong, just different.
It's weird that your Ruixin Pro 009 only looks vaguely similar to mine. Mine (just purchased) seems to have a combination of features from the 008 and 009.
Do you think the stones would last longer if you only pulled and didn’t push
no
Yeah fair enough I mean they fall apart like Play-Doh
So which pro sharpener should one buy coming from a strop/Lansky???
For hassle free quality they’re a pretty penny but TSProf and Kazak are the best. I’m still looking for a sub $100 system that’s trouble free. You can get decent stones for hand sharpening up to about 1500 grit for that money. Last time I looked, but that’s 3 years ago. Personally I like Arkansas stones.
I find to remove the wing nut and replace with a nut/ with locking nut if needed. To keep from moving. I agree that the stones sucks I only use gritomatic stones an works perfectly. Wish one was ceramic.
HMMM get your own stones from gritoamtic etc and buy the "no stone" kit and you're set?! I spent 380cad on my workshop and the clamp is worse than this lol
if they used a nyloc nut there'd not be issues. maybe vibra-tite could fix it?
After watching this video decided to just build my own solid mounted sharpener in garage.
In summary it’s all about holding angle and keep knife locked….
I bought one of the cheaper ones and Amazon and a set of surprising good straight and flat stones… will say I get a very consistent repeatable edge… proper care of the stones. BUT…and this is a warning for both the cheaper ones and ones like yours. That screw that holds the spring in place will move. And call out…. And the spring holder will become a bullet if your in the process of rotating… check the screw every time or use too much thread lock…
@tested maybe the arm solution for your sharpener is here
I bought one of these and hate it , bought a worksharp and love it. Just spend the extra bucks and get something you can use is my advice
Ruixin Pro -009 vs -008 ???
They’re both garbage
I waded through this for a rant.
I expect a RANT! Where's the passion, the anger, the vitriol???
Love ya!
Basically - a) the stones are garbage,, b) the jig is garbage too.
Dang I got a sharpener similar to this one for Christmas and I've used it once so far. I haven't had the problems with the sharpener itself yet but the stones it came with were also TOTAL TRASH! It really sucks asking for something as a gift and then having it kind of suck.
how often have you used it so far? also, i saw a comment above that mentions using paper grits glued to wood. Maybe that might work?
That edge didn't even look like 2000 grit to me. 1000-grit polish should reflect a TON more light than that edge did.
I get a better edge off a Shapton 320 Kuromaku than he got off that 2000 grit stone.
Memory card failures=a frustrating kick in the ole wrinkle beans....
I get that most of these companies saw how the tsprof caught lightning in a bottle, but in some cases imitation is not a form of flattery and it's just basic IP infringement for profit.
And imo, the execution seems so poor they would have to know they are just gonna turn a quick, short profit before their reputation is so bad that it will fizzle.
Exactly
Thanks for the review. Seems like we're all looking for the magic bullet that makes sharpening easier and faster, as well as the miracle that allows us to eliminate hand sanding. This clearly doesn't qualify as a magic bullet.
How was the clamp compared to the last version?
About the same
maaaan... you first move the hangle to tight the spring and after thight the screw....
That settles it, was contemplating getting one but hell no!!
Hail nah
Well, this review scared me until I saw the ArtTema videos. Go watch his mods. I did them for the 008 and I will now for the 009. Yes this system is under engineered compared to the big ones. ArtTema takes each problem and engineers solutions that are easy to do. If you watch his sharpening sped clips up you see the unit stays rock steady. You can't fake that. I think this system asks for a light touch but how hard is that? The mod to increase the spring tension is simple and elegant. You have to watch the videos closely to pick up all he has done but it pays off. Stones are indeed garbage, but the diamond stones you can get cheap are pretty good. Forget the stones, don't laugh at them. $70 vs. $700 if you can even get them. The TSProf stuff is terrific, but do you know it's made in the same town as all the heavy military gear being used in Ukraine, which is why you can't get these units now.
sorry if this was just a bit snarky. No disrespect intended. I like your informal review style. If I could afford the TSProf Kadet I'd love it. But my little search into their operation suggested that there was likely some coziness between them and all the military production in their town. I guess you need engineering in abundance and at least the knife sharpening is a better use of it.
Pretty fair assessment I thought. Not sure why you copping flak. And yeah, stones are supposed to be more durable than that.
Some of what you say is wrong here. Firstly, the cost of the stones. You might pay $300 for 5 or 6 full size stones -- 8 inch by 2.5 inch by 1 inch. You won't pay that for these little 1 by 6 inch stones. Secondly, you can get whetstones that don't need soaking. Splash and go ceramic stones just need a splash of water and they're ready to go. Watch some videos on Shapton stones. Thirdly, it shouldn't take 'hundreds of passes' if you're using good stones. I can raise a burr on my Shapton stones after about twenty passes a side. Harder, powder metal steels will take longer, but nothing routinely takes hundreds of passes. Aside from those issues, I agree with the rest of your points. Sharpener looks like junk. You get what you pay for.
I have priced sets of stones for these systems at well over $500. Or you can get cheap sets that fit to 1000 grit for $40-$50. I own several shapton glass stones, Arkansas stones, ceramic stones, oxides stones, chosera, idahone, boride, diamond and have tried many inexpensive combo water stones. I know the difference between soaking, oil, splash and go because I own and use all of these types of stones. I sharpen knives I forge from 15 thou thickness to sharp and repair damaged blades regularly. I sharpen supersteels, I narrow angles. These things take many, many passes. It is often a hundred to 200 passes total.
And here I am...with a block of wood and a o bolt, with a dowel and files.
I feel like Ug the caveman, discovering fire. :P
youre block of wood is much more advanced than a ruixin
man i've never seen stones THIS bad before to me a decent set of stones should last for at least 2 generations (i got mine from my grandfather) these are like the stones i use for cleaning my whetstones not for actual sharpening. personally this kit has some intresting features but has missed the ball on almost all of them which is gutting since with an hour of testing and some itterations it would be a decent sharpening kit.
Yep, clearly they didn’t test the item which makes it a bit of a scam.
I think with all the get-it-tomorrow cheap plastic crap young people are used to these days, no one understand the meaning of quality anymore.
seems like a knife would have been already sharpened by the time one of these contraptions is set up, plus you're working with a tiny sliver of stone. doesn't look well made either. thanks for the review.
Fantastic review, Steve! Thanks for the honesty! 😊
But yeah, even from China there are much better stuff to choose from!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
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Any other suggestions?
That has less stability than Argentina's economy
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Can the holder hold 4inch stone?
Amazon has these for 37usd. LMAO i wouldnt pay anything over 20 for this sharpener.
Sytool does have a knock off tsprof blitz for under 300usd.
Might be draw only stones off wish lol but this hear is the exact reason I don't use jigs
By pushing the stone aginst the blade are you not cutting the stone with the knife insted of sharpening the edge with the stone? I believe thats why your loosing so much material?
Nope it’s a crappy stone.
Picky, picky, picky!😁 I'm not a knife maker, mostly strop or sharpen my knives by hand. When bringing back a damaged edge I have been using a Lansky diamond set for years.
A lot to be said for a good set of diamond stones
I've been using a Lansky set for over 20 years if I'm not hand sharpening. Simple is still great even after all this time.
Proving there can be a good review of a hopeless product. Thank you.
must be a REX121 Blade =D
Chinesium back at it again.
You were doing a push sharpening and not dragging ther other way perhaps🤷♂️🤷♂️
I was going both directions as the instructions indicated but water stones are usually 2 directional or at least I’m not aware of one that isn’t.
I think the softer stones - in particular that 1500 - would last longer used purely in downstrokes, but as GB stated, that shouldn't be necessary, and the instructions didn't specify, so.....
That said, I bought the Lansky recurve sharpening stones, and the two higher grit stones are just as soft as that 1500.
I have the 008 and find myself just sharpening by hand on decent stones. I can get much sharper that way.
Pin point accuracy on the review. Junk. I'm trying the work sharp presently. It has 3 stones attached to the guide. Not impressed with it either. $45 so I cant complain too much. Great video buddy.
It’s hard finding a good sub $100 system! There’s some decent stones one can get to hand sharpen with to about 1500 or so. I tried out a bunch of $30 combo stones a couple years ago and found a few that did pretty good. There was a good Arkansas combo for about $50. You have to buy a few more to get up over 2000 grit. At any rate I have to think better manufacturing could prove the ruixin design for an extra $30 and there’d be s market for it.
Darn I'm glad I got a tsprof
like watching a review on Suzuki Jimny and saying that you glad you got a Ford Bronco
It is what it is. Pretty cheap.
With China junk....what do you expect?
Yeah, really. I hope to convince people who defended the 008 that they can do better and not waste money here.
I sold my Kme for a tsprof kadet pro,very happy with it.
They’re 👍
Good review but I have to give you only about a 6/10 on the rant. 😜 Keep up the good work always enjoy your videos! Thanks!
I re-recorded 6 times until I was calm, for real.
Sistem is ok ,,but the stones omg trash ,,glue the sand paper and problem done
Камни конечно говёные, но точилка в целом не так уж и плоха, для домашних ножей вполне! Значит просто заточник не смог в заточку)
Anyone who thinks this is a good sharpener is telling the world how little they know about sharpeners.
oh boy its a whetstone gritty, loose screw mess .
👍. Thanks. I won’t be buying this. Especially not for $180 +. I would not even pay $50 for it.
you must weld it alright...for that price I'm not going to get in your game...that is a not good unit
Eh, you get what you pay for as expected.
It didn’t work because you didn’t follow the instructions! Oh wait………. There wasn’t any!😂
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Junk
Well damn
It does explain to me a lot- I was sort of wondering why the very expensive versions of these made in place like Poland and Russia were made out of the things they are with what I was considering 'over engineered' components. Turns out they're not over-engineered, they're in the 'good as it needs to be' bracket of continuous use for such a tool and probably worth the money they cost... to someone, who isn't me.
So it does actually answer a question I had in terms of "why it cost so much" because the alternative is that costing less means you get a bit of junk. Now take that box out of the garbage and make a knife out of the components or you'll trigger all them zoomie kids that accuse boomers like yourself of being wasteful and gretas will troll you on the internet.
I have one of these and it came with "diamond " stones and sand type stones. I was able to get very good results and bring back a terribly ruined kitchen knife, however I had to use very light pressure and keep the stone wetted. I can tell the stones arent great but the rest of it works just fine as long as you dont ham fist it and you oil the slider ( i used seed oil only because I use it around food). I can see how this product would fail with some kinds of users, personally I had no problem with it and my kitchen knives are all very very sharp and symmetrical now. I am surprised you didn't put a helicoil in it, break out a tig welder or 3d print a part for it. As for the cam mechanism stressing you out, there is nothing in the manual that says you have to push the lever all the way over. I got the feeling watching your video that you were trying to break it, and I found it entertaining, thank you for showing me what is going to break on this thing.
I would really love a knife sharpener like this for my collection but all the options out there are well above my price range.
A lot of these devices are way over engineered and too expensive so I've been keeping an eye on your sharpened reviews. Even this, a simple and cheap to manufacture is still imo overpriced and not well made to boot. Perhaps I should be so stingy on a good sharpener but paying hundreds is just too much. Awesome video as always. I'll keep to hand sharpening for now but look forward to your next sharpener video!
Make your own?
As thr saying goes...you get what you pay for. Everyone had known for years that the Chinese stones on these type of systems are complete garbage...no surprises there. The whole point in getting a fixed angle system, is to have a fixed angle...this isn't. Just based on reviewers comments that points were loosening multiple times in same session speaks volumes. Thr blade pivot system was poorly thought out as well and is an accident screaming to happen.
If your on a strict budget and don't sharpen many knives, the lansky system is a much better option...you can buy a base system for roughly the price of this crap.
But if you have or sharpen many knives, bite the bullet and buy the best system you can afford and grow with it.
For someone just getting started I would recommend one of the systems from hapstone, they are modular so you will never outgrow it.
Another economical option is the work sharp precision adjust. Yes it's primarily a plastic build, but will likely outlast that cheap Chinese alloy.
Best of luck on your sharpening journey.
i just comment to get a like from green beetle :D
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Wow. So, to summarise, these things look good, like they will be brilliant, but in reality are annoyingly shitty pieces of crap. Nice to know, thank you!
You totally right. The system is total crap. No sCrews tighten. It all comes apart. The water stones grind to zero in One knife. Could ONLY do down stokes. Havent tried the diamond and AM sure they not. After having seen your video still made the mistake mater of budget. I mean it Will sharpen if you do 1 knife ir 2 a month. People dont make my mistake, save up and get a proper American made system.
So somehow, the 008 is better
Hahahaha!!! Another chinese crap!😆😆😆Only box looks good!🤣🤣🤣
I watched all 14 minutes of this video and I still don't have a clue what this contraption is used for
Holding the stone at a constant angle to the blade.