Can A John Deere 1025R Move and Load Huge Walnut Logs?
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- Опубліковано 14 січ 2019
- Tractor Time with Tim helps move huge walnut logs with our new 2018 John Deere 1025R. Our friend, Danny, cut down several trees and needs cut a walnut tree into long sections and load onto a trailer so he can deliver it to a furniture/wood working friend. We don't have fluid in the tires or wheel weights yet - is Johnny 2 up for the challenge?
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So Tim, others asked, and I didn’t see a reply ... Since you had the forks right there, why didn’t you use them instead of fudge around with that clumsy bucket ?? It would have been easier on the tractor.too,
Was it a plug for the heart hitch tooth bar, perhaps?
I like that...heart hitch (i know it was a typo, but I like it).
I chose the bucket to move the first rounds ...to put in Adrian's trailer. So, active choice there...and the right one. After that, I simply forgot that the forks were even around...didn't even think about using them again. Nothing more than that. Just forgetfulness on my part.
I guess i was having too much fun moving the logs.
@@TractorTimewithTim Using forks in closed in position would make loading the rounds easier. Then set to widest position for the longer logs. Got the job done with the bucket and it worked.
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@@TractorTimewithTim I completely understand sometimes I really am having too much fun on my tractor to think about doing things differently.....when I get tired of working my tractor, I go inside, to UA-cam, so I can watch other people working their tractors.....right now Im waiting for jd to get my new hydraulic line.....So its been a long painful day
As someone who is considering a 1025 for firewood production,I appreciate you posting. It’s one thing to read the specifications and another to actually see the tractor work in real life situations.
Good one for the 'it's just a big lawn mower' crowd. Always enjoy seeing what can be done with these 1025s and happy that I recently got one for all my landscaping and other duties on my place in Kansas. It continues to surprise me and allows me to do projects and jobs I couldn't imagine doing otherwise. Thanks Tim & TTWT Crew!
Yep. You just have to be bold, and somewhat creative. You can accomplish much with these little guys.
Dean Hutson thats what my tire dealer called my 3720 a lawnmower on steroids when I was ordering the beet juice for the rear tires LOL
I love watching your videos and I am always particularly touched by the mutual respect & love you Christy and Katriel show to each other. Such a close and wonderful family you have there. We could all learn a lot from you. I also watch to pick up pointers and to see what can be done with compact tractors because I too hope to purchase one by the end of 2020 or sooner.. Lord and savings account willing. 😃
Wow Tim, New Johnny is living on the edge! Great to see the limit of what can be done with moving large trees with this tractor. I too have one, also large trees, so this is very encouraging
The 1025r does a lot for it size. I get a lot of work done on my property with mine. It has saved me a lot of money by not having to hire the job out.
Thanks for sharing Tim.
Really impressed with the load New Johnny could handle. Putting him to the test right away! I like it👍🏻
Nice work maneuvering the bucket to put those logs on the trailer, Tim. And I’m not surprised one bit that little Johnny was able to handle the work. I am convinced that pound for pound, these little tractors can outwork the bigger ones.
That makes moving logs look pretty easy, and I know it would be easier your grapple. I wish I my Johnny back when I cut wood and burned it for heat a few decades ago. Glad I've got it now as it's helped in similar situations such as when we cut down a dead maple in our neighbors yard last fall. It made loading an easy chore.
Adrian is a funny elderly man, that's for sure! Nice work.
That 3rd function is going to be nice when you get it! Looking forward to that.
Wasting no time with Jonny 2.0! Enjoyed the video Tim as always and thanks again for sharing.
Enjoyed the video Tim & Christy. The 1025 will sure surprise you how much it will pick up. Y'all take care and God bless.
New Johnny did a good job of moving those walnut logs!
Hi Tim, it was interesting to see what 1025R is capable of with an experienced operator! Great video, still getting used to mine, Thanks!
At work, I use a Bobcat with a set of pallet forks to move logs around the lumber yard. For moving logs at home, I also use a set of pallet forks on my tractor that I borrow from my neighbor. But after watching this video, I have to admit that the tooth bar is awesome!
I am in the process of installing hooks and Clevis mounts on my bucket from Ken’s Bolt On Hooks (With the 5% TTWT discount!). I got them after watching your earlier videos and seeing how handy they were.
Mick Olson I am also looking very hard at getting the bolt on hooks for my little Kubota tractor as well. Those things look super handy and I know I could use them for some of the projects at my place.
@@JeremyTVOK You won't regret it! I am very happy with the way they turned out. I can wait to put them to use. Ken is a great guy to deal with:)
Mick Olson great! Thanks for the feedback!
The most amazing part of this tractor is the front tires. I can't believe the amount of weight those tires hold up, and I have not had any issues no matter how heavy I have loaded them. I expected to pop a tire before now with what I load on the front, but I haven't.
Yes, and the little front axles must be pretty well designed too!
I like that backhoe better than the old one. Now you don't have to swing the seat around. I got a couple of toothbars. I keep them in my denture cup. 😎😎🤔🤔🤔 Nice video, keep up the good work.
In the late 90’s I worked in Lexington Furniture in the rough end cutting boards. We did some walnut and only got few board for a time we made plugs with it.
Hi Tim and Christy nice video the 1025R made it look easy
We love your videos Tim! Keep it up. Also love the new Johny, thinking about finally getting my own 1025!! Another Johny inspired Johny!
God bless you and your family!!
Thx Justin!
Man, what characters. The awesome people you meet
That's is some nice walnut! Johnie handled it well!
Nice wood and it will make beautiful furniture!!!
His love will reign forever more, His love endures forever.
this is no surprise to me Tim. I regularly haul 6 to 8 inch diam cedars out of my wood lot for fence posts. my record is 6 6inch diam 8 ft long poles and my 1025R handled it(rough terrain and all) like a pro.
If your picking the rear up you can always stretch the backhoe to the rear and even scoup some dirt up. Ive pickup my 520 rear up a little and lost enough traction so i grapped the 3 bottom plow on cause thats 6ft long and the heaviest implement i have. It helped a bit
New Johnny sayin this guys gonna make me work and then some
Good video Tim new johnny looks like it's doing good
Hey Tim, two thoughts; first gotta say the lift capacity is pretty impressive on new johnny. Second those two fellas look like they could out work most teenagers, good for them. Thanks for the video.
Aways fun with TTWT
Nice loader work , getting those logs in the trailer !!
Thanks Shawn. I was kinda proud of that too. No other commenters have noticed. They are all focused on negative stuff!
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On those firewood pieces, when they get too heavy to man-handle, I've used some timber tongs (I guess you call them) to lift and carry them to the trailer. All you have to do is chain it to your bucket and then swing your loader over the log while a buddy sets the tongs to grab it. A lot less rolling and shoving.
New Johnny doing the job with no problem. You just need do little to add a couple things to Johnny then he be set. I think you need tp put some lights on your Johnny trailer so can see to load up Johnny in the evening time
That tractor could of lifted more if you used pallet forks. All the weight on the edge of the bucket takes away a lot of capacity.
nice work, I hope to buy one of those johnnys someday, any suggestions for tools for a 2 acres with a 1/4 acre garden and a neighbor with 15 acres of big field and some woods acres, and also snow clearing
Great job enjoyed that
The edge tamers with the edge extenders would work great for that as well. Tim another great video, happy to see new johnny hard at work. Wonder what the new year will hold for TTWT.
Yes, I started to mention that in voice over, but decided to avoid confusing everyone.
Day off tomorrow and going to do some of this, a bit of snow and morning temp of -14° C may slow me down.
Job well done!
Brother Tim, you have convinced me that I need something bigger than Johnny for my first tractor. I want to move up to 16' logs. I know I can skid them, but I want to be able load them on a trailer or on a sawmill. Both of those things are still on the wish list also. I'm blessed to have what I do have, but I don't to buy anything just to small. God bless you and yours.
Yes, sounds like you need more.
I would caution you that even a 2 series does not sound large enough for that task. Probably a 4 series would be best.
@@TractorTimewithTim Yea I was going to say a 4 series would probably be a good size to use for logs of that size. My 3720 disappoints me on occasions when she won't do what I need her to do as to not quite up to snuff in the lift capacity. But for me I needed the midmount mower so I had to go for the 3 series since I couldn't get the midmount in the 4 series. But I think that I might one day get a 4 series after im done paying off the 3720. Or a mini excavator
Bolt on hooks would have made picking up that log feasible, but the tooth bar made it easier for sure. Good point.
Great video!
Tim, I would have used the pallet forks to move those logs. It would have put the load closer to the pin and taken some weight off the front end.
Not sure if this is Heavy Hitch approved, but I sometimes use a tooth to pull on a chain. I bet with bolt on hooks a chain from the top of the bucket to the toothbar would hold a log and allow a lower carrying height. At least I hope so because there is no grapple in my immediate future. I really enjoyed this video, thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Typically, you would chain all the way around the log from one hook to the other.
Nice Walnut! There are several log weight calculators online if you ever want an idea of what they weigh. Just enter diameter, length and species
Any idea what it is worth?
@@TractorTimewithTim wunderwoods.wordpress.com/2017/12/14/how-much-is-your-log-worth/
That's awesome to see the Morgan's commenting!
@@TractorTimewithTim Walnut prices are high right now but for one tree from a somewhat urban area a mill may not be interested in it due to the likelihood of metal in the tree that ruins saw blades. Delivered to a mill someone might offer $100 or $200 though? If you come across any customers that want a big tree milled I can make slabs with my chainsaw mill.
The grapple takes up too much usable lift. Forks seem to work best for me, especially when I move brush. I just make a pile and pick the whole thing up. The logs are lighter than you'd think. They're heavy for sure, it's their awkwardness makes them appear heavier than they are. My biggest trees are oak, the last one I had to put down was all of 3ft in diameter.
good work
I wonder if it wouldn't have been easier on Danny and Adrien if you could have positioned the bucket under the section to be cut BEFORE it was cut. Nice work and really nice wood (wish I had a hunk of that) in any case.
Hum Johnny was a 1025R and the name stuck and the model size stuck. Thought New Johnny was a 2025R. Fantastic use of the tooth bar examples in flattening land and hauling lots. Looks like the logs were just over the weight ability due to the heavy bouncing. Air tires. Nice tree men. Hard workers and fun loving.
Looks like you are at s out the limit on stability with the logs. Rear tires look a bit light once in a while. I put a gauge on the lift cylinders so I can read pressure
Nicely done, even with all the couch experts commenting. Logs are very heavy, I have 32” x 20 ft long red oak log and my Kubota mx5200 ( 1065 kg lift capacity) can’t even pick up one end. (Log is over 6000 pounds or 3 tons)
Johnny has better steer clear of THAT log!!!
On our farm we cut a lot of white oak that was about 48” diameter it was all our 450 tracked loader could do to lift a 10’ section.
that backhoe good to hold back down when lift large logs
I am so glad to see this. I own about every implement imaginable, but always seem to not have the only one need at times. More than one way to skin a cat!
I thought folks might enjoy the more ‘basic Johnny’ for awhile. At some point I’ll get frustrated enough to get some of the goodies mounted on it!
Tractor Time with Tim just an idea for a video. Different methods of installing a 3rd function. Pros and cons.
Tim, exactly the kind of job that backhoe thumb would have come in handy for. imagine grapple on the front thumb on the back...better talk to management.
Before watching of course Johnny can!!!
Did you need to get a new bucket and if so is the new one bigger
I have 12 acres in Upstate N.Y that I'll be building on. Using about 1.5 acres for house, garage and lawn with a 200' driveway to snowblow . The rest of the front 9 will be brush hogged and the back 3 is woods that I'll maintain with periodic light cleaning.
I think that little 1025 would do the job...
Good to start. You may find you want to upgrade later, or you may not.
Magnificent video!
Good job tim and the new Johnny looks good,and is the backhoe bigger than the other one?
Same size backhoe...but it is newer model.
Hi Tim. I would like to get those forks for my loader. Where do I go to get them?
Extend the backhoe out and it'll give you more ballast
Great. Any idea how much each log weighed you put into the trailer?
Probably 500-600lb
Tim Christi black walnut is good we have six in the yard but we will never live long enough to harvest
God Bless All
PaK
Peter Kober we had one. It was a pain in the ass tree, walnuts everywhere. Squirrels always burring them.
What did yall trade in old Johnny
I see got tooth bar on there now you been using it a while you liking it and what's the different uses have you found for it ?
Welcome to our channel. We LOVE the Heavy Hitch toothbar.
You’ll see it used in many different ways in our different episodes. Check them out.
that BIG log made Jy look a little light on the back. i presume the tires are not yet loaded?
Not yet loaded, and no wheel weights. Makes a big difference!
Are you going to do a video on turning up the hydraulic pressure on this one I saw with Johnny 1 that you turned yours up but never did a video on it
Nope.
How much different do the loader hydraulics feel on the '18? I have an '18 and noticed in videos with OG Johnny the loader seems much more powerful with the "improvements" you made. Just curious how much different it is after all the seat time you've had.
Control is smoother. As for power, I have not made any ‘improvements’ yet
I'm a big fan of Mike Rowe and love the "Safety Third" philosophy, so please don't accuse me of being a Safety Sally but...
1)What aren't you wearing a seatbelt with such a heavy unbalanced load on unfamiliar terrain?
2) Why is the ROPS sitting at 45 degrees?
Tim , I think your 36 inch forks would of worked much better than the bucket. , I always use my
Pallet forks on my 2520 when moving logs.
If I were to cut wood. I would buy a track loader and log splitter attachment to split up to 12' logs (cut into rounds, split, and cut another round).
A little off topic, Vinnie has a sensor alarm when the side slope angle gets to steep. How much of an angle can Johnny comfortably handle?
Not much.
I noticed you had the roll bar up for this job...
Have you thought about loading the tires with beet juice or rv antifreeze for ballast?
welcome to our channel.
Do you like the new one better than the old one
What do you think about the new seat vs the old style that spun 180?
I like the concept. Have not used it enough in practice to form an opinion.
Love to get walnut for bbq
I have a Black Walnut log at my place that Johnny can't lift. My farther in laws International 484 can't lift it with out the rear coming off the ground. I had to move it using the 3 point hitch arms and a hitch bar.
That grapple would of helped a lot for this job. 4 times the work without that grapple.
Luckily you had some good help.
Yep.
The pallet forks he brought would have also been easier then a bucket.
Did you put more juice in the new johns joints
No
You should have used the forks to move the logs
When are you going to get all of the after market parts on there? You are already missing them!
Yep. Just too busy.
Thanks for the nice comment, Fred!
@@TractorTimewithTim it is always busy with a new place. So many projects to tackle...but I bet the new shop will look amazing when done. If you want to get some great inspiration...check out Casey Neistat's office organization vid. It may be an office, but he make an incredibly organized space for very little money. It may give you some ideas for the shop.
It will be awhile. I can’t afford a new shop right now...with all the HVAC expenses.
@@TractorTimewithTim it'll come over time. I know we built a home just over a year ago...and I am often amazed at how even the little things have a major impact. It may not be a new shop, but maybe a new setup to store parts, or an easier way to store all of your attachments. Either way, I love the show...and continue to be amazed at how much little Johnny can do. I am working on my finance committee...but you will probably have a new shop before that happens. :)
Tim I just bought a heavy hitch for my bx 1880 kabuta was winding how many weights can it hold all together? And love your videos wanned a deer but could not get approval for one that why I got a kabuta
8x 42lb. You can get them in black from HeavyHitch.com (with the discount :-)
Thanks
Every video I watch I think to myself you need a 70-100hp tractor LOL
Yes, but we could not navigate these tight spaces with a large tractor
@@TractorTimewithTim haha It's totally not practical but here is a couple videos of doing some yard work at my house with my friends 100hp New Holland ua-cam.com/users/edit?o=U&video_id=EZsY1QsJaZY
ua-cam.com/users/edit?o=U&video_id=7QSTx526rBM
Now you have Johnny 1.1
That tractor’s power is impressive. Dynamite comes in small packages. Adrian looked to be pretty strong too, might give Johnny a run for it’s money 💪🏻💪🏻
SO how is the new tractor over the old one? much different?
not much time on it yet. feels the same...cept for missing accessories.
Where did you find your tooth bar?
Heavyhitch.com use code TTWT for a 5% discount! You’ll love it!
Courious ... was there a reason you chose another 1025 rather than, say, a 2025?
Other than maybe a few new bells & whistles it’s the same tractor as your old one ... which was not worn out by any means.
I own a 1025 and love it, but if I were shopping for new compact tractor, It would a 2025 or something similar, .
That being said, I intend on keeping my 2013 model for a very long time.
Oh sweet Jesus.....please make a video of you moving or trying to move a full sized round bale of hay
Why would I try that with this tractor?
Why not use the pallet forks?
I simply forgot I had them there. This is real world, dude. Sometimes I make mistakes.
Obviously you didn’t need them, but why didn’t you bring your pallet forks? They work great for moving trees.
Uh, watch the video again. You’ll see them sitting there.
Ah Tim .... Just a dream .... But I would LOVE to have a "Little Johnny" the same as yours with all the toys ... And appropriate transport and shelter for him ..... :)
I would love to work with you and your family ..... Gentle words would be exchanged between us .... And we would have a greater understanding of each other's beliefs ..... :)
Tim ... I have had a change in my tablets ..... I am feeling a lot better as a result ..... :)
And am more happier within myself. :)
Tim .... My blessings go to you and all the Marks family .....
You are a wonderful group of people to know ...... :)
Goodnight .... It's 5 am here ..... And I have a LOT of cricket to listen to on the radio at roughly 1 pm.
Wish me luck ...... In THAT endeavour ..... Yes ... I AM "Cricket MAD" ..... ROFL!
God bless you all ..... :)
Jim
Be careful doing it like that because I've seen where a cylinders have broke and or loader arms bend and stress out. Just saying. Here another thought on pushing big log in with backhoe bucket carefully
By doing what??? I didn’t do anything stressful to the loader in this project!
Tractor Time with Tim those were big logs for that small loader.
These loaders will still pick up the rear of the tractor no problem, even with correct ballast. Obviously it's not recommended but unless you're lifting a lot on one corner or shock the load I dont think you'll bend the loader arms.
Having one of these loaders on my own tractor, the amount of force required to damage it is much greater than what the lift capacity of the tractor.
Plus keeping the cylinders retracted as much as possible (which you will do anyway to keep a low center of gravity and to keep things in the bucket), even further reduces the likelihood of any damage.
*a john deere can do anything lol*
Tim see got Spinner on steering wheel lot easier to Drive tractor with it on now
Yep. That is the only thing installed so far!
I feel like pallet forks may have been more effective.
Actually impressive how much the front end loader lifted. Nice having 2 cylinders to the front bucket instead of one like some of the older Kubotas bx series an the first mahindra Max’s
Why wouldn't you use your pallet Forks you keep driving by them better lifting device 4 logs
I dunno. Guess I’m an idiot. I used the bucket for the shorter blocks...then didn’t even reconsider using forks.
Oh well.
@@TractorTimewithTim I don't see how you could've loaded that last log with the forks. I think you did just fine.