Someone on Threads last night wrote something along the lines of: "It's official. Nobody won the East Coast/West Coast beef." That hit harder than I thought it would.
It was fabricated by the media. The real war was over the direction hiphop would take in the next few decades and who would run it. The corporation chose sellouts like Diddy & Jay Z over someone like 2pac who was militant minded & actually cared for his people.
I grew up in the 80s and 90s. I feel like this saga of violence is somehow finally coming to a close. Its like stepping back from a painting to see the full picture and the picture is horrifying.
I had a rapper from the 90s that used to be really poppin chillin the crib back in the early 2000s and he said Clive Davis did this shit to diddiy. He just volunteered that shit and he’s a trustworthy dude
Honestly, f these guys. They sacrificed the greatest hip hop artists of all time for fame and fortune and for them to keep leading the lifestyle that eventually caught up to both of them
Just joined the company, really appreciate the way you do your journalism and reporting. Been down the X route and your reporting is refreshing and nuanced to say the least! Love it!
I'd truly be surprised if Diddy didn't drop some names to potentially lessen his charges. They are very serious and he is not likely to get off, so at the very least, he would not one to go down alone
What is he going to talk about though? People keep saying he's going to give names. What will the charge be for those people. They're either on tape, so need to talk or not on tape which will take more investigation to charge the names he mentions. Diddy is the only person going to prison. Just like R Kelly.
My take on it is that Suge is trying to make sure Diddy don't get to endure his prison sentence. Maybe I'm cooking too hard, but the way I see it Suge is creating this conversation so that people in power who Diddy *could* talk about will do something to stop him talking. Maybe I'm uncharitable to Suge, but it feels like he's trying to borrow other people's knives to slash down with.
I wouldn't be surprised if Suge is on a kosher diet. Also along the lines of the music industry being founded by gangsters, it seems to me that the entertainment industry in general is just shady. There have been so many stories over the years about messed up situations.
I can tell you that as independent artist, the music/entertainment business is the most shady environment I’ve ever been in. Every single artist from major to independent to old and new has been scammed at least once. More than likely, multiple times. It’s so common that it’s actually just part of the game. It’s bad.
@@apaaaa it can be real discouraging bro. I know for a fact that I felt like quitting music plenty times just to not deal w the industry. But I realized there’s a way to make music and meet awesome people without having to rely on the industry. It’s called staying independent. Sure it takes time and has its disadvantages but I’d rather deal with all that comes with being independent first before having to constantly look over my shoulder & wonder if I’m being fucked. Don’t get me wrong you still have to be cautious, but there’s more control & freedom w independence.
When you look at the type of entities that run entertainment period for decades it makes sense they would only promote gangster style music and bury positive messages to the masses.
Disgraced journalist from a powerful political family with mob ties interviews disgraced music executive with gang ties about another disgraced music exec with gang ties. Talk about a spectacle.
Definitely learned behavior but the headlines are too good for the media to actually solve the problem. My question is will they let puff talk? And what TIMELINE ARE WE ON. Suge Knight giving Puff Daddy advice. And it’s good advice. It’s really ALL happening.
Man Puffy is the William O Neal of hip hop. I remember going to see the notorious movie w my moms when it came out. I had to be like 10 years old. I remember being so shocked by the ending. When I asked my mom who she thought did it she said the feds. The story of big and pac feels a lot like the story of Fred Hampton and the black panthers.
Suge Knight when he ain’t sh** talking folks and lying he actually is one of the best of all time as far as interviews in Hip Hop. He be dropping gems 💎 and especially if he is talking about Tupac you can tell he loved Pac.
diddy will become a snitch if he does anything other then fight tha case & defend himself... they got tha videos... others will be charged anyway... just like thug... thugguh ain't said a word and has beat that case 10 times over with mr.steel... 〽️🌜🎷💯💯💯
There is something bigger at play behind the scenes, there is no way all of these black powerful people are being targeted for the nefarious things they do as if it’s not common nature. Of course I believe they deserve punishment but others do as well, there is Suge, Puff, Mayor Adams, etc all black? Where are the others?
@@KardiFan2000 yes but preferably while stressing this point in the least homophobic way possible (not taking about you specifically, just the discourse around this situation generally)
@@Cdr2002 There's nothing homophobic about saying that SA committed against young men (or any men for that matter) is evil, and that their abusers should be thrown under the prison. Obviously this wouldn't be an issue if all of these acts were consensual (and the men were all of legal age).
@@KardiFan2000 that’s not what I said. I completely agree with you, SA against men needs to be talked about more. But a LOT of people bring up Diddy’s abuse of men via shitty gay jokes and their “no diddy” shit and it’s extremely counterproductive.
Yeah I think Suge eating kosher. I think that paired w him giving practical advice shows that he’s been preparing to be released maybe for a long time. I think he would have wanted to keep his health right and attitude right so he can live his life proper after prison.
Suge Knight lies and exaggerates all the time (he once said Pac was still alive in Cuba) but he’s right about Diddy. Diddy always has to be in the spot light. He’s built a career off of being the least talented person in the room, and still being the center of attention. He’s not going to hold back anything.
Personally I get the vibe that the entire point is making sure that people in power who have things to hide that Diddy could reveal get nervous. Maybe I'm attributing too much malice and too much cunning to Suge, but if I was in his shoes and wanted Diddy to not stay breathing but also didn't want to be the one ordering it, creating an entire news cycle about how Diddy is gonna rat out the powerful men he partied with seems like an effective attempt.
Mmmmm alot of this can be interpreted as shade.... shade you throw when a parole hearing is in the future. Honestly i thought it was suge having a opportunity to call Diddy gay and a future snitch packaged for the medium. Maybe hes a changed man... but his grudges got him in jail.
This is somewhat touching (No Diddy). Sad. I hope Diddy lives to expose all the Diddlers in the Industry. This is a patch of evil that needs to be torn out and disposed of.
While I agree with you, the no diddy thing kinda got co opted by homophobes so I think we should discard it at this point. Everything else you’ve said is spot on
Someone on Threads last night wrote something along the lines of: "It's official. Nobody won the East Coast/West Coast beef." That hit harder than I thought it would.
YEEZUS. TOO MUCH TRUTH.
Well no the war was over years ago. So that line was stupid.
The south won...
Most mainstream rap now is just recycled 90s Memphis rap.
Sweet Christmas...
It was fabricated by the media. The real war was over the direction hiphop would take in the next few decades and who would run it. The corporation chose sellouts like Diddy & Jay Z over someone like 2pac who was militant minded & actually cared for his people.
Its almost poetic justice that the both of them are in prison.
It really is. Can't front, I felt a bunch of unexpected emotions doing this piece. Nevertheless, it's all happening.
@@TheCompanyMan yes sir it is!
Time really does reveal so much
@@CGToothbrush facts!
There's so much I wanted to say about this situation, but you summed it up nicely.
I grew up in the 80s and 90s. I feel like this saga of violence is somehow finally coming to a close. Its like stepping back from a painting to see the full picture and the picture is horrifying.
Man when suge is the voice of reason.....
1 thing is for certain and 2 things are for sure... Nothing can take a man down like his own ego.
Is there ONE picture of Suge Knight without a cigar? Dude was probably puffing on one in his baby pictures.
came out the womb with a Cuban in the mouth 😂
He’s for sure using any trick he can to get good meals.
Have you ever thought that The Company man is working for me? ...nah i need a job hire me please!
I had a rapper from the 90s that used to be really poppin chillin the crib back in the early 2000s and he said Clive Davis did this shit to diddiy. He just volunteered that shit and he’s a trustworthy dude
Pac and biggie should still be with us smh.
Honestly, f these guys. They sacrificed the greatest hip hop artists of all time for fame and fortune and for them to keep leading the lifestyle that eventually caught up to both of them
Just joined the company, really appreciate the way you do your journalism and reporting. Been down the X route and your reporting is refreshing and nuanced to say the least!
Love it!
Thank you and welcome!!
I'd truly be surprised if Diddy didn't drop some names to potentially lessen his charges. They are very serious and he is not likely to get off, so at the very least, he would not one to go down alone
His best hope is that he gets a jury who is absolutely detached from reality. Other than that, the feds ain’t budging because he implicates someone.
Got 4k porn tapes of A list celebrities 😮. Can only imagine
What is he going to talk about though? People keep saying he's going to give names. What will the charge be for those people.
They're either on tape, so need to talk or not on tape which will take more investigation to charge the names he mentions.
Diddy is the only person going to prison. Just like R Kelly.
My take on it is that Suge is trying to make sure Diddy don't get to endure his prison sentence. Maybe I'm cooking too hard, but the way I see it Suge is creating this conversation so that people in power who Diddy *could* talk about will do something to stop him talking. Maybe I'm uncharitable to Suge, but it feels like he's trying to borrow other people's knives to slash down with.
I wouldn't be surprised if Suge is on a kosher diet. Also along the lines of the music industry being founded by gangsters, it seems to me that the entertainment industry in general is just shady. There have been so many stories over the years about messed up situations.
What the fuck does that have to do with kosher? You saying suge could only reach those levels of evil by.....converting to Judaism?? 🤣🤣
I can tell you that as independent artist, the music/entertainment business is the most shady environment I’ve ever been in. Every single artist from major to independent to old and new has been scammed at least once. More than likely, multiple times. It’s so common that it’s actually just part of the game. It’s bad.
@@apaaaa it can be real discouraging bro. I know for a fact that I felt like quitting music plenty times just to not deal w the industry. But I realized there’s a way to make music and meet awesome people without having to rely on the industry. It’s called staying independent. Sure it takes time and has its disadvantages but I’d rather deal with all that comes with being independent first before having to constantly look over my shoulder & wonder if I’m being fucked. Don’t get me wrong you still have to be cautious, but there’s more control & freedom w independence.
Diddy and Suge being in prison is lowkey something i wanted for over 20 years.. I hope Diddy exposes a bunch of name so the culture can truly change
When you look at the type of entities that run entertainment period for decades it makes sense they would only promote gangster style music and bury positive messages to the masses.
4:34 mr. Morale album is a very important album...
lol I love the 1 second applause 😂😂
Comedian Josh Johnson put it best: "Diddy has been the devil for decades"
I'm not mad. Name names so we can clear it out! 🎉
The true irony is him & diddy are in the slammer simultaneously.
Disgraced journalist from a powerful political family with mob ties interviews disgraced music executive with gang ties about another disgraced music exec with gang ties. Talk about a spectacle.
History does not repeat it rhymes.... like poetry.
it's wild to think it's been nearly 30 years since that incident you mentioned at the end.
Definitely learned behavior but the headlines are too good for the media to actually solve the problem. My question is will they let puff talk? And what TIMELINE ARE WE ON. Suge Knight giving Puff Daddy advice. And it’s good advice. It’s really ALL happening.
100% he's on a kosher diet
He's working the system from all angles, podcast, interviews etc. Suge living his best life locked up
Diddy is cellies with Sam Bankman Fried, I’m not joking.
diddy unalived pac and now the world will know
We already know
Shout out to the wire. That makes me so happy
I pray Kendrick give u an interview! U deserve it!
The packaged meal tip went right over the interviewers head lol
I’m new to your channel. Just wanted to say thanks for the perspective. Much respect to how you conduct your shows. Keep it up. Stay Blessed King.
Man Puffy is the William O Neal of hip hop. I remember going to see the notorious movie w my moms when it came out. I had to be like 10 years old. I remember being so shocked by the ending. When I asked my mom who she thought did it she said the feds. The story of big and pac feels a lot like the story of Fred Hampton and the black panthers.
Deep. #ItsAllHappenin
Ty JUSTIN.
It amazes me that Suge got so much to say about everyone else like he was an angel over the years especially during the Death Row years.
Puffy....Welcome to Deathrow 😬 🪑
I love Suge’s mature response to this. He even tried to hip him on game.
We need puff to talk so we can arrest the ppl behind him
Ya'll remember when ppl called Pac crazy back in the 90s? When he had his foot on Puff's neck? I was a kid but I remember that
One second applause 😭
Puffy making Suge look like a standup guy
"Its All Happening!" is there a T-shirt for that?.....and I dont have the answers for this
Both had a great run and left a lot of victims in their wake.
Who would’ve thought 30 years ago where we’d be
Diddy was probably going through withdrawals and didn’t have an appetite, if there was any truth to him not eating
The lives that these two men lead, whose surprised
Diddy will be the new 69. He will give up names and be exposed for Pacs murder and will be walking free through Harlem like Alpo this time next year.
Suge Knight when he ain’t sh** talking folks and lying he actually is one of the best of all time as far as interviews in Hip Hop. He be dropping gems 💎 and especially if he is talking about Tupac you can tell he loved Pac.
For food that isn't throw up on a plate?! I bet he is lol! I would too😂
1 second applause 😅
The casting couch is why there's so much mental health problems in the industry
Once Puff is starting to talk about stuff he can't stop...won't stop
Ice from jbp said Harlem 🥷 are notorious snitches 😅😅😅 diddy might sing
Hopefully, Pdiddler can expose the rest of them before he comes down with a case of suicidaitus.
Is no one gonna talk about the elephant in the room. CNN interviewing Suge?
It was Newsnation.
Lol they interview gangstas now
A bad boy on figurative death row
Homie's gonna get epsteined for sure
Kosher diet always the number one trick, no matter which jail 😂😂
If Puff talks I wonder what we’re gonna learn about Dre…
Who would’ve expected prison to make Suge so positive?
Hearing Suge sound like Unc these days is really screwing with me tbh
These two producers masterminded the murders of two great men. And they never really answered for it.
seeing suge this empathetic and genuine feels so odd.
I think Puff already snitched on Naomi Campbell. And I think that's only the beginning.
diddy will become a snitch if he does anything other then fight tha case & defend himself...
they got tha videos...
others will be charged anyway...
just like thug...
thugguh ain't said a word and has beat that case 10 times over with mr.steel...
〽️🌜🎷💯💯💯
This was weird ngl, he knows something... cause hes basically telling him to "settle in".
Music biz is grimey!
Suge is definitely keeping kashrut 😂
It’s no wonder the culture in the state it is after this pair of losers held the reigns
Only a matter of time
There is something bigger at play behind the scenes, there is no way all of these black powerful people are being targeted for the nefarious things they do as if it’s not common nature. Of course I believe they deserve punishment but others do as well, there is Suge, Puff, Mayor Adams, etc all black? Where are the others?
I’d like to hope that with Puff put away things might get just a little bit safer for women
...and young men
@@KardiFan2000 yes but preferably while stressing this point in the least homophobic way possible (not taking about you specifically, just the discourse around this situation generally)
@@Cdr2002 There's nothing homophobic about saying that SA committed against young men (or any men for that matter) is evil, and that their abusers should be thrown under the prison. Obviously this wouldn't be an issue if all of these acts were consensual (and the men were all of legal age).
@@KardiFan2000 that’s not what I said. I completely agree with you, SA against men needs to be talked about more. But a LOT of people bring up Diddy’s abuse of men via shitty gay jokes and their “no diddy” shit and it’s extremely counterproductive.
@@Cdr2002 Gotcha. I don't disagree. 👍🏾
Kanye was right 😂
Repeating the cycle. Diddy has ruined so many lives. That baby oil is actually GHB.
Thay should become cell mates
Why it took decades?
The Kosher diet? Um.. Suge throwing a subliminal
Together would have generated billions
Marion
Kanye wasn’t wrong after all
Yeah I think Suge eating kosher. I think that paired w him giving practical advice shows that he’s been preparing to be released maybe for a long time. I think he would have wanted to keep his health right and attitude right so he can live his life proper after prison.
puff knight call that the michelin man
Suge Knight lies and exaggerates all the time (he once said Pac was still alive in Cuba) but he’s right about Diddy. Diddy always has to be in the spot light. He’s built a career off of being the least talented person in the room, and still being the center of attention. He’s not going to hold back anything.
Personally I get the vibe that the entire point is making sure that people in power who have things to hide that Diddy could reveal get nervous. Maybe I'm attributing too much malice and too much cunning to Suge, but if I was in his shoes and wanted Diddy to not stay breathing but also didn't want to be the one ordering it, creating an entire news cycle about how Diddy is gonna rat out the powerful men he partied with seems like an effective attempt.
Halal diet or kosher? But fr what’s the difference
Suge buying spots in the line for the store. KOSHER my ass. #IfYouKnowYaKnow
Mmmmm alot of this can be interpreted as shade.... shade you throw when a parole hearing is in the future. Honestly i thought it was suge having a opportunity to call Diddy gay and a future snitch packaged for the medium. Maybe hes a changed man... but his grudges got him in jail.
Who did it to Suge?
Suge's voice does not match his face
This is somewhat touching (No Diddy). Sad. I hope Diddy lives to expose all the Diddlers in the Industry. This is a patch of evil that needs to be torn out and disposed of.
Nah. This whole thing is to protect the others
While I agree with you, the no diddy thing kinda got co opted by homophobes so I think we should discard it at this point. Everything else you’ve said is spot on
Diddy dead already all we gon see is a clone
Suge calling into Andrew Cuomo is insane.... culture is simply incredible