Thanks for this , needed to know if plastic could fit onto a compression joint , this is the only place on the internet I found that gave me a straight answer
Thanks for your comment, i also have another video on how to use plastic push fit pipe and fittings ua-cam.com/video/iCd7b-YMtFk/v-deo.htmlsi=-mdyYUPLTctxREdq
@@FixitwithFowler If I only have the super seal I just take the pipe cutter and snip off the oring section, making it into the regular one, but with the extra oring in the middle. Saves needing to buy 2 types, and you do get to have the snipped off orings to replace any that are damaged, so you do not waste the fitting. There are other plastic fittings which will work with both types of pipe, and also with copper as well, but you do need to use a spanner with them, but they do make for a good joint.
Unfortunately the Speedfit inserts with the extra o-rings can not be used with compression fittings. The JG Speedfit website has the following on its website """ 2. Do I need to use an insert every time I connect Speedfit pipes to a fitting, and why are there two types of insert? The simple answer is yes, always use an insert when installing Speedfit pipes as it supports the shape of the pipe. We have two types of insert - the ‘STS’, or Superseal for plastic to plastic, and the ‘TSM’ for plastic to compression. The ‘STS has an extra O-Ring, which helps to reduce the risk of leaks due to side load. The ‘TSM’ insert does not have an O-Ring, and therefore allows more pipe into the fitting. This is important when using Speedfit pipe with compression fittings as use of a TSM insert allows the olive to sit further down the pipe. (Only TSM inserts should be used with compression fittings). """
I don’t see why it would make much of a difference. As can be seen in the video there is still pipe left past the olive and the olive has bitten in to the pipe. If the olive was to move with the super seal it would move with the TSM because it hasn’t been tightened correctly in the first place.
Been using Hep and JG for years as a competent diyer. Only had one failure with a 22 mm JG on a hot water tank fitting - the rubber O ring disintegrated after about 5 years even though the fitting was within the temperature tolerance. I do favour Hep2o, the fittings are slightly less bulky and I believe more secure, having no locking collar ( to forget to tighten, but I 've got some early JG fittings with no locking collar and they've performed perfectly well!). I find that the biggest drawback with both types is when using copper pipe. After some time in service, green corrosion builds up on the outside of the pipe between the O ring and the end of the pipe as this external part is permanently in contact with fluid. Dismantling the fitting is very difficult as the corrosion has the effect of increasing the diameter of the pipe. Even when using the correct dismantling tools, the grab rings still foul the pipe making it very difficult to pull the pipe out, even with easy access to the fitting. 15 mm pipe can be extremely difficult to remove. 22 mm almost impossible and in a confined space - I wouldn't even try. So traditional compression fittings still have a lot going for them.
Great video! Personally, for large/high pressure pipes, I go with brass fitting and brass ferrule. The only time I've used the john guest was when I connected an old 5/16 plastic pipe to a 1/4 LG fridge water line. Imo, smaller pressure pipes/connections, the john guest works great. I'm paranoid about use plastic coupling/fitting to connect plastic to copper. So i like to stick to "like goes with like" whenever possible.
I always thought copper pipe and fittings were the best. However, the new copper pipe is so thin i can't see it outlasting the plastic pipe and fittings as Hep2o has a 50 year guarantee. The other advantage of the push fit range is the ease and speed of installation, i guess it all has its benefits and place for use.
@FixitwithFowler If you can find the time could you show the use in using 22mm copper and plastic. I'm going to attempt my own bathroom refurb in the new year and I'm trying to get clued up as much as I can as the bath hot is 22mm copper, thanks for your indepth vid's.
Hi, its exactly the same method regardless of the pipe diameter. My preference of make is Hep2o but make sure you have a release key. I haven't had any of these fittings fail.
Thanks for this , needed to know if plastic could fit onto a compression joint , this is the only place on the internet I found that gave me a straight answer
That's brilliant, im glad you found the plubing video helpful. Thanks for your comment!!!
Great video. I'm about to refub our bathroom, moving taps to other locations.
Thanks for your comment, i also have another video on how to use plastic push fit pipe and fittings ua-cam.com/video/iCd7b-YMtFk/v-deo.htmlsi=-mdyYUPLTctxREdq
Thank you so much sir for making this video. Now I know what is what.
No problem, im glad you liked the video, and thanks for taking the time to comment on my video!
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Great advice steve
Thanks
Cheers, that was very useful. I've never used pushfit fittings before, got trust issues with them but will have a go.
Super seal inserts not required for compression joints, the regular inserts are the correct way. JG website states that also. 👍🏼.
Cheers for the info!
@@FixitwithFowler learnt the hard way my self 😇. Nice video and info thou 👍🏼👌
@BobBenz55 cheers
@@FixitwithFowler If I only have the super seal I just take the pipe cutter and snip off the oring section, making it into the regular one, but with the extra oring in the middle. Saves needing to buy 2 types, and you do get to have the snipped off orings to replace any that are damaged, so you do not waste the fitting. There are other plastic fittings which will work with both types of pipe, and also with copper as well, but you do need to use a spanner with them, but they do make for a good joint.
Cheers for that, i normally use hep2o fittings and pipe
great video, could you please show names of parts involved in projects. thank you
In the description, I have put a link to the parts in my Amazon shop.
Unfortunately the Speedfit inserts with the extra o-rings can not be used with compression fittings.
The JG Speedfit website has the following on its website
"""
2. Do I need to use an insert every time I connect Speedfit pipes to a fitting, and why are there two types of insert?
The simple answer is yes, always use an insert when installing Speedfit pipes as it supports the shape of the pipe.
We have two types of insert - the ‘STS’, or Superseal for plastic to plastic, and the ‘TSM’ for plastic to compression.
The ‘STS has an extra O-Ring, which helps to reduce the risk of leaks due to side load.
The ‘TSM’ insert does not have an O-Ring, and therefore allows more pipe into the fitting. This is important when using Speedfit pipe with compression fittings as use of a TSM insert allows the olive to sit further down the pipe. (Only TSM inserts should be used with compression fittings).
"""
I don’t see why it would make much of a difference. As can be seen in the video there is still pipe left past the olive and the olive has bitten in to the pipe. If the olive was to move with the super seal it would move with the TSM because it hasn’t been tightened correctly in the first place.
@Nick-cs9dt I didn't even know it was a thing, thanks for your comment 👍
Been using Hep and JG for years as a competent diyer. Only had one failure with a 22 mm JG on a hot water tank fitting - the rubber O ring disintegrated after about 5 years even though the fitting was within the temperature tolerance. I do favour Hep2o, the fittings are slightly less bulky and I believe more secure, having no locking collar ( to forget to tighten, but I 've got some early JG fittings with no locking collar and they've performed perfectly well!). I find that the biggest drawback with both types is when using copper pipe. After some time in service, green corrosion builds up on the outside of the pipe between the O ring and the end of the pipe as this external part is permanently in contact with fluid. Dismantling the fitting is very difficult as the corrosion has the effect of increasing the diameter of the pipe. Even when using the correct dismantling tools, the grab rings still foul the pipe making it very difficult to pull the pipe out, even with easy access to the fitting. 15 mm pipe can be extremely difficult to remove. 22 mm almost impossible and in a confined space - I wouldn't even try. So traditional compression fittings still have a lot going for them.
Great video!
Personally, for large/high pressure pipes, I go with brass fitting and brass ferrule.
The only time I've used the john guest was when I connected an old 5/16 plastic pipe to a 1/4 LG fridge water line. Imo, smaller pressure pipes/connections, the john guest works great.
I'm paranoid about use plastic coupling/fitting to connect plastic to copper. So i like to stick to "like goes with like" whenever possible.
Helpful 👍
Hi, thanks for your comment, and im glad you found the plumbing video helpful 😊
Where can I buy all of this?
The best place would be a diy store, thanks for your comment
A big thanks for this video, like said by others here this one is the clearest and informed one I could find, it's going to be a big help.
Im glad you found the video helpful, and thanks for your positive comment!
That is very nice how to join the pipe together
Thanks for your comment!
I like steel inserts
Thanks Mr Fowler good video 😊😊
Hi, I'm glad you liked the video. Thanks for your comment 👍
Very good ,and informative
Hi, thanks for your comment. Don't forget to look at my other plumbing videos as I've got a few on my channel!
Thank you, informative video
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Thanks for this. It helped me alot
That's good to hear, thanks for your comment 👍
Just what I needed to know thank you
Brilliant, I'm glad you liked the video!
Very helpful thanks
No problem, im glad you found the video helpful ☺️
Have always believed compression fittings are the most secure and the plastic push fittings are just a cheap alternative.
I always thought copper pipe and fittings were the best. However, the new copper pipe is so thin i can't see it outlasting the plastic pipe and fittings as Hep2o has a 50 year guarantee. The other advantage of the push fit range is the ease and speed of installation, i guess it all has its benefits and place for use.
@@FixitwithFowler Plus the plastic pipe and fittings will not get stolen if they are within reach.
Yeah, that's another good point, especially with copper prices!
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Thanks for you comment, wicked user name 😁
Where are the links to purchase?
If you head to my amazon shop, then they are in there. Alternatively you can go to any big diy store.
top man .
Cheers, glad you liked the video!
Metal ferrules on plastic pipe are bad news.
Yes, i must admit i would just use a push fit fitting!
Can you use these fittings on 22mm pipe too.
Hi, yes, you can get 10mm, 15mm, 22mm. Hope the video was helpful, and if so, don't forget to subscribe to my channel 😀
Cheers mate already have done.
@kenpie474 thanks, i appreciate that!
@FixitwithFowler
If you can find the time could you show the use in using 22mm copper and plastic.
I'm going to attempt my own bathroom refurb in the new year and I'm trying to get clued up as much as I can as the bath hot is 22mm copper, thanks for your indepth vid's.
Hi, its exactly the same method regardless of the pipe diameter. My preference of make is Hep2o but make sure you have a release key. I haven't had any of these fittings fail.