I’m SO glad you are doing a deep dive into the Kujo situation!! It really shows Ren’s character. And hopefully the transparency will help other artists and producers. Because unfortunately this situation is not uncommon.
Now you understand why RENegades supported and watched every reaction to the beatdown and watched the video constantly until. we had it over a million views in just over 2 Days. We were cheering when he dragged out both of them. 😊 Worse thing is the stress from all this was part of causing Rens next health crisis in the end. 😢
And shortly after this is when Ren had his horrible relapse and ended up in emergency flooded with symptoms and blind in one eye in great pain for 3 days . This stress was only one element of that relapse, but I am really angry that Ren had to deal with this as he was prepping and performing his 1st live solo show in 5 years.
💯 Same. This likely triggered a cascade effect of stress responses in his body. Those of us with autoimmune conditions can usually pinpoint the moment the dominoes began to fall. It makes me angry for Ren, too.... Because it could all have easily been avoided if certain people were simply reasonable in a plethora of ways 💔
Great watch! Other things we know now since this video's release: 1) Ren had a sit-down meeting with the CEO of UA-cam and got the Sick Boi *video* back... with its view count and comments intact because the CEO agreed there was no standing to strike it. If something were to come of the legal case it could still disappear *and* Ren intends to pull the video and replace it with the 2nd edition revamped beat when he re-releases the audio. So the return is temporary. 2) Sick Boi audio is still gone from all platforms and will continue to be unless something miraculously happens with Kujo. Ren actually had to remove and reupload the entire album everywhere, messing with his album stats and playlist placements, to remove the song so he took a financial hit, making it even more of a boss move. 3) The re-release of Sick Boi audio with a new beat has been delayed due to Ren's health issues. It's still coming at some point. 4) Money Ties was the 3rd song mentioned here, that was a happier song. It was delayed but we have it. 5) a producer named nayz reached out to Ren during the drama and told Ren he'd had a very similar encounter with Kujo that almost made him quit music. To make something good out of the situation, Ren offered nayz the same deal he had extended to Kujo - a pure 50/50 split - and they did Money Ties together. There's a community post on nayz's page talking about what a great experience it was and explaining the process, including the fact that Ren wasn't giving himself enough credit for contributing to the production. There's a comment on that post where someone asked how it was working with Ren and nayz's response there is also worth a read. He said it was the first time he never felt like he had to worry about being taken advantage off. All wonderful words for Ren.
Thank you for posting all of this! I was planning to if I didn't see this info, because the updatee (especially about Nayz and how Ren ended up dokng the 50/50 master/pub split with someone ELSE who had been screwed by Kujo) just adds so much more to the story. 💜 I genuinely hope that this can be out behind Ren soon, and that he's able to recover as much as possible as quickly as he can. F*** Kujo for adding stress on our boi, and f*** the girlfriend for the whole, "What about if Kujo had mental issues?" gaslighting b.s. I think, personally, that's what pissed me off the most about the entire exchange. (For what my random outrage is worth, which is very little, but that was BEYOND.) 💜💜💜
Hey King, thank you so much for taking the time to watch this important video. 🙏🙏 Looking forward to the Re-watch of the Beatdown. 🥰 It looked like your blood was boiling by the end, now you know how we all felt seeing Ren getting screwed over. I second other people’s suggestion of watching REN’s Chapters…it is very emotional but it really shows you his journey. He’s back in Canada now having intensive treatment. Really hope it helps him. ❤️🩹
Ren literally offering to move past the madness and collaborate with him angered me because Kujo did NOT deserve that level of generosity in any capacity. That's why Renald is a real one
This common house potato says TDIP is so good at Ren rabbit hole reactions ❤ many crablings will also agree: We are big fans 🥔 🦀 🪭❤❤❤❤ PS. the common house potato 🥔 🥔 🥔 reference is from one of the live streams building up to the sick boi album reaching #1: Ren and Samuel Perry-Falvey had a bet about how many common house potatoes each could hold in their arms without dropping one: Ren said 34. Samuel Perry-Falvey said 28 (maybe 26 but no it's 28 😂) Ren won 😂 The crablings 🦀🦀🦀 reference is from Ren's actual online Money Game played by us Renegades in the lead up to the Money Game part 3 release. It was amazing: an actual online game involving clues and riddles and culminating in a live stream scavenger hunt. ❤ Obviously this Renegade ❤ Ren 😂❤
This common house potato says TDIP is so good at Ren rabbit hole reactions ❤ many crablings will also agree: We are big fans 🥔 🦀 🪭❤❤❤❤ PS. the common house potato 🥔 🥔 🥔 reference is from one of the live streams building up to the sick boi album reaching #1: Ren and Samuel Perry-Falvey had a bet about how many common house potatoes each could hold in their arms without dropping one: Ren said 34. Samuel Perry-Falvey said 28 (maybe 26 but no it's 28 😂) Ren won 😂 The crablings 🦀🦀🦀 reference is from Ren's actual online Money Game played by us Renegades in the lead up to the Money Game part 3 release. It was amazing: an actual online game involving clues and riddles and culminating in a live stream scavenger hunt. ❤ Obviously this Renegade ❤ Ren 😂❤
Have you watched Ren’s 5 minute thank you speech for getting a million UA-cam subscribers called Defining Success? If not I HIGHLY recommend it. Love that you’re going back to the Beat Down and really like your channel ❤️ PS thank you for not wearing shades x
Yes, the video is only 5 minutes long and it tells you A LOT about who Ren is and what he values most. You walk away from that video feeling grateful that he's walking the same earth as the rest of us 🥰
I think I speak for everyone when I say that we can't wait to see you react to Kujo Beatdown again armed with this information ....And now that you've watched a lot of his other videos, you'll see all of the references and understand them! For example, the intro to the beatdown is a takeoff from the intro to sic boi, and Ren is talking to his inner demon just like in Hi Ren and when he talks about Jimmy, it's from money game, The choir, etc ... Now. I feel like you have the proper information to really, really appreciate the song and the video! Enjoy!!!
Subbed! didn’t know you were flying solo as well. Kujo beat down deserves a backstory. I still laugh when I think of you both being introduced to Ren with that song. 😂 much love!
TDIP are still going strong! Sometimes we can't do all the reactions we want so I'm using the down time to do the Reacts we're asked to but but don't have the time to do within recording sessions
Sick Boi is the first physical CD I'd bought in YEARS and I'm so glad I did. You can take Sick Boi off my Apple Music, but not my cd! Glad you took the time to see the backstory on this....gotta revisit the genius of Kujo Beatdown now.
Thank you for taking the time to watch Ren speaking about the Kujo situation. I’m glad that you now have a better understanding of what Ren went through because of Kujo and his girlfriend.
I'm so glad you watched this. The song will make much more sense now, and you've heard enough of Ren's music to understand all of the references in Kujo Beat Down. I can't wait to see you watch it again. If you're planning to continue doing these longer videos that Siah isn't available for, I'd love to see you watch Ren's 8 chapters, in which he tells his story. Each one is around 15-20 minutes and includes a song at the end. They can be found on his renmakesstuff channel, and also in a Troubles playlist on his regular channel (renmakesmusic). His story is incredible, and well worth watching, even if you decide not to react to it.
Sooo glad you reacted to this. It is awesome to get the full story. Ren also has an amazing series he did on his RenMakesStuff page that shows his full story in chapters with a song at the end of each if you were interested in something a little longer form there as well.
My thoughts as well. Unless the chronology is a bit off in Ren’s explanation, by the time she becomes a part of this story everything is already blown the 🤬 up.
Love that you're taking the time to watch this because it really illuminates how Ren moves in the world. He has so much integrity and when he professes his values, it's FRFR, not just some surperficial $#*! Just another reason in the long list of reasons that I love and respect Ren so much as an artist. And now, listening to more... my heart is so happy to hear your outrage. 😍
Fantastic video, your reaction and emotions were very evident and rightly placed. As a suggestion, explaining this video to Siah should be the beginning of the new reaction to Kujo Beatdown. Probably all of us would like to hear that explanation and his reaction to the situation.
So glad I found you over here! There is a playlist on REN’s UA-cam called troubles. This playlist has chapters with ren sitting down telling his whole story. As a renegade it may be something to see. Maybe one of the best stories you’ve heard too! It really is an incredible story.
I'm so glad to know that you started this channel! Thanks for taking the time to go back and watch this. I remember the first time I watched it, I was so mad I couldn't sleep. Ren, of all people ... and Sick Boi, of all songs ... !!! And the monumental stupidity of Kujo for turning down the chance at a 50/50 collab with Ren!
The thing that gets me the most, is the fact that all this HAS affected Ren's health after 18 months treatment in Canada this Kujo issue and Ren's work commitments floored the poor guy, too the point he went blind in one eye ( temporary ) thank god. Anybody's mental health would be in tatters. Now Ren's back in Canada receiving costly treatment for his health that maybe he shouldn't have needed if Kujo and Co had an ounce of sense/intelligence, hey wtf even ganga might have helped them.😂😂 Renegades love Ren's Music,body n soul it was hard to watch seeing the bright lights of Ren slowly dim over those few months since the secret garden party. Thanks for doing the deep dive King. You know it was a serious one! Ren didn't move from his chair and go walking 😂😂 ✌ Peace out all❤Get better soon Ren we all luv ya bro❤from D in the UK 🇬🇧
So brilliant that you’ve taken the time to gain clarity & understanding of where, why & how “Kujo Beat Down” was created & now when you both re-watch, you will see & feel what all us Renegades did!! And why it is such an epic track & video. Big Up to you KP ❤❤❤ love to be a fly on the wall when you tell STG all about it 😂
I love that we not only got the Kujo Beatdown from this situation, but he met with the head of UA-cam Music and they put the original Sick Boi back up, and then we got Money Ties which was 50/50 collab with another producer kujobeats screwed over. He offered the deal kujo rejected someone else who had been a victim of his nonsense and made an incredible track. Talk about turning it around! Unfortunately the situation contributed to making him really ill again so he didn't get to release the revamped Sick Boi, or finish other videos he had been making. He's back in Canada now restarting the treatment he thought was over. 😢
I expected you would get it and be furious about the situation. The good news is when you didn't get it /like the Kujo beat down the first time round , you still gave it respect and gave Ren another listen. The rest is history. Cant wait for the Kujo reaction part 2
Since you like to do reactions so much that you occasionally do some alone, then Ren has a few videos where he's simply talking about his life, or there are some really good interviews you could check out. I've got suggestions if you like.
@itskingprime His Million Subscribers video is great. There's "the moment we heard the result on radio one" which is on his channel RenMakesStuff. It's him and his crew who were visiting him in Canada waiting to hear if Sick Boi was going to hit #1. There's a very difficult one to watch that he made about 9 years ago for his VLog channel called MeVsME. It's from before his Lyme diagnosis when he's possibly at his worst. He actually used it as a promo in the lead up to the release of "Hi Ren". That's on his main channel under the videos tab. It's right next to "Hi Ren". For me though, that's a heartbreaking video and difficult to watch. The video that Rick Shea got Harry Mack to do a tribute for Ren was awesome.
Yay!! So happy to see you wanted to do more reactions so you simply started a solo channel for the extra ones. ❤ Yes, this video provides soooo much context!
@@itskingprimeoh I was screaming at my phone when I watched it. I'm SO looking forward to you revisiting Kujo beat down now. I discovered you on that vid and shared it on Reddit because it was hilarious, your confusion 😂. Now Im a big fan because you reactions have just been incredible. RENALD!!!
Big up for catching this up so you know the context first hand. Every time Ren faces an obstacle, he gives us a creative solution or set of solutions that are in line with his principles. While he is only human, he is the kind of human we need in this world. Both for himself, but more importantly, because he has helped us find others who share the same aspirations.
The bit about kujo saying he’s always treated fairly is BS as there’s a guy who reached out to Ren as he had been treated the same and worked on money ties with Ren
Yes, the producer Nayz, had a similar experience with KJB so they talked a lot and he and Ren ended up collaborating on Money Ties. Ren being Ren did a 50/50 split.
Yeah KP this whole thing was a CLUSTERF***. So glad you got your context for KBD and really grateful you took the time! I've been holding out hope you'd check it out 🫶 You're all in now... I think after this you can call yourself a Renegade 💪 Now I'm pumped to watch you react to it all over again! I bet Vibe will tune in 🤣 P.S. Never heard you use SHATTUP as anything other than a compliment until right NOW! Love you TDIP Bois 🫶
I've been dying for you guys to watch this, I knew you'd get it and then Kujo Beat Down would make sense. Make sure you tell Siah everything!! I'm looking forward to the rereaction! 😂🖤 You should watch Ren's King Dotta diss/battle. Obviously you need to watch Dotta's diss first, but I think you'll love what Ren does.
This is the first reaction to this video that I’ve watched. And, wow, had no idea I’d get so much enjoyment out of watching someone else get mad about this, lol.
Thanks for taking the time to watch this……watching you go through all the emotions we went through whilst watching this video…..looking forward to seeing you re react to KBD with the context. Love the fact that on Money Ties, Ren’s most recent drop…..he worked with a 🔥producer called Nayz that had also had a run in with Kujo. Nayz on Money Ties got the 50:50 split that Kujo turned down …..
Subbed, I’ve really been enjoying you guys, and I’m always up for someone seeing what makes Ren’s loyal fanbase tick (and why the Beatdown was so important) I also loved your lightbulb moment around 33:45 😁
YESSS!!!! I love that you took the time to watch this with us❤ All the Renegades and a lot of reactors were HYPED after this video, waiting for the Beat Down😈And eventhough most of us were hoping for Ren to really put this guy in his place, I think many were still quite surprised to see how much anger he put into this song, as we're not used to that from Ren. The first time I watched the song I was a bit shocked, but I LOVED it!!!!! Can't wait for you guys to give Kujo Beat Down a second try😊😁😎
Thank you so much for for doing this ❤️ (another RENegade here)!!- to gain some perspective of the situation and to actually get to know Ren a little as a person - and how he hates greedy people but also his gentleness and kindnesss. As another Brit I totally understand you. « Man try to bump man 😂😂😂🤣 » Whaaaat, nah nah 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Well I guess it's a good thing its my day off! Looks like I just found my activities for the next while! Grabbing my snacks so I can dive in to this video!
#ren was more than trying & fair I was so p!ssed off for him as this all happened just before I seen him at SGP - he must have been beyond stressed but was still his awesome self 🖤🤍 🏴
I'm so glad you watched this and have an understanding now about where it came from. Ren had put up a post on his community page after this that asked for reactors to support him by doing reactions to it. Everyone was quite excited and hyped about it. Renegades were watching all the reactors react to this video and sharing the info all over the place to make sure as many people was possible were there for the premiere. The reactions came out almost immediately after the premiere ended and we were all watching every one of them that came out to make it blow up big. Everyone did a great job at getting that all done. There were something like 21k people in the chat for it. If you haven't already, you need to do yourself a favor and go watch Uncle Ray's reaction to Kujo Beat Down. Ray is always funny, but this one was Epic. Suck yourself, ya bloodclot! OMG you had me crying. 🤣🤣🤣
Ren has more patience than a doctor 😂....... Kujo and his gf have finally shattap ..... I would be very surprised if any artist work with Kujo in future. Glad you delved into this ❤
So glad you did this reaction! I didn't realize I hadn't subscribed to your channel. New sub! I'm going to share this over on Ren's Patreon reactions chat, though I have a feeling others beat me to it. Then I'm going to watch your Ren and Sam Tompkins reaction. So cool! Thanks for showing Ren some love. 💖🙋♀️
Now you know why we were SO THERE for pissed off Ren! You're Primed (see what I did there lol) for a rewatch and completely new perspective of Kujo Beatdown!
Thank god, I found it ! I was heading to a convention for the weekend and thought I'd imagined seeing this on the time line 🎉🎉❤ I love that you did this Lamce.
King Prime, you are all of us in your reaction here. The outrage and absolute confusion on Ren's behalf for this knob are felt, even a couple months later. KujoBeats is... I don't understand this man. I don't think I even want to
Great you watched this. Makes so much more sense now. If you want to find out about Ren's life dealing with his illness check out his chapters. I think it's 8 long videos so perhaps for your own enjoyment but they are quite interesting and emotional.
This is why just getting the bits and pieces from fans in the comments section doesn’t really give you the FULL picture - literally with ALL the receipts! It’s why Ren pushed KuJo Beat Down to the WHOLE reaction community? ( now you know the meaning of double in the title ). *** I also think we should be pushing Money Ties because during this whole fucked up situation Ren was contacted by a producer @Nayz who had a similar nightmarish experience with KuJo. Ren thought THEY should collaborate on a track , which because MONEY TIES ( also playing up the double with mone-tize . AND WITH THIS COLLABORATION REN GAVE NAYZ THE EXACT SAME 50/50 SPLIT ON EVERYTHING, INCLUDING MASTERS AND CREDITED HIM AS THE PRODUCER . In fact on @nayz YT channel he said that Ren actually did do work on the production ( because it’s Ren after all) but didn’t credit himself as such. It really give a whole new perspective and meaning to Sick Boi and Money Ties.
Ya.. it changes things. When you re-watch the beat down you'll be .. the choir, the girlfriend...plus now you'll get the Hi Ren reference. I enjoyed watching your confusion the 1st time but I'll like the "informed" reaction more.
Now you understand why we were all cheering at Kujo Beat Down! I don’t think I will ever quite understand how it all went from Kujo selling a beat with a stolen sample and the owners getting in touch for the publishing money they’re owed to then somehow escalating into Kujo and his lawyer using a mistake made by others, not Ren himself, to demand money from Ren as if he was the thief. It’s like there’s a huge gap and I suspect it’s between Kujo’s ears 👀 But at least we got this righteous rage! Ren showed us exactly what happens when you push the nicest guy in the industry too far… he needed to let the anger out somehow and boy did he do just that 🔥
I just love how they have to take us RENegades into acct while considering the situation. Seriously, if he literally told us to do something. We'll do it. Nothing violent. But like general strikes? Yes
I’m SO glad you are doing a deep dive into the Kujo situation!! It really shows Ren’s character. And hopefully the transparency will help other artists and producers. Because unfortunately this situation is not uncommon.
I'll tell you one thing without giving the whole video away... Ren is a very very patient man, I'll give him that!
@ patience of a freaking saint!!!
More patient than I could have been... Good on him, but I know I couldn't have done it
@@itskingprime Everyone who watches it is usually raging on Ren's behalf.
Btw, definitely want to hear how you explain this to Siah!
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@@toria-jyes, we need a video of this whole thing being explained to him!
Now you understand why RENegades supported and watched every reaction to the beatdown and watched the video constantly until. we had it over a million views in just over 2 Days.
We were cheering when he dragged out both of them. 😊
Worse thing is the stress from all this was part of causing Rens next health crisis in the end. 😢
And shortly after this is when Ren had his horrible relapse and ended up in emergency flooded with symptoms and blind in one eye in great pain for 3 days . This stress was only one element of that relapse, but I am really angry that Ren had to deal with this as he was prepping and performing his 1st live solo show in 5 years.
I am convinced that the stress from this situation was a MAJOR contributor to his relapse.
@margaretc5679 he did find out that he was still positive for Bartonella. But yes, I think so too.
💯 Same. This likely triggered a cascade effect of stress responses in his body. Those of us with autoimmune conditions can usually pinpoint the moment the dominoes began to fall. It makes me angry for Ren, too.... Because it could all have easily been avoided if certain people were simply reasonable in a plethora of ways 💔
Totally agree
Great watch!
Other things we know now since this video's release:
1) Ren had a sit-down meeting with the CEO of UA-cam and got the Sick Boi *video* back... with its view count and comments intact because the CEO agreed there was no standing to strike it. If something were to come of the legal case it could still disappear *and* Ren intends to pull the video and replace it with the 2nd edition revamped beat when he re-releases the audio. So the return is temporary.
2) Sick Boi audio is still gone from all platforms and will continue to be unless something miraculously happens with Kujo. Ren actually had to remove and reupload the entire album everywhere, messing with his album stats and playlist placements, to remove the song so he took a financial hit, making it even more of a boss move.
3) The re-release of Sick Boi audio with a new beat has been delayed due to Ren's health issues. It's still coming at some point.
4) Money Ties was the 3rd song mentioned here, that was a happier song. It was delayed but we have it.
5) a producer named nayz reached out to Ren during the drama and told Ren he'd had a very similar encounter with Kujo that almost made him quit music. To make something good out of the situation, Ren offered nayz the same deal he had extended to Kujo - a pure 50/50 split - and they did Money Ties together. There's a community post on nayz's page talking about what a great experience it was and explaining the process, including the fact that Ren wasn't giving himself enough credit for contributing to the production. There's a comment on that post where someone asked how it was working with Ren and nayz's response there is also worth a read. He said it was the first time he never felt like he had to worry about being taken advantage off. All wonderful words for Ren.
Thank you for posting all of this! I was planning to if I didn't see this info, because the updatee (especially about Nayz and how Ren ended up dokng the 50/50 master/pub split with someone ELSE who had been screwed by Kujo) just adds so much more to the story. 💜
I genuinely hope that this can be out behind Ren soon, and that he's able to recover as much as possible as quickly as he can. F*** Kujo for adding stress on our boi, and f*** the girlfriend for the whole, "What about if Kujo had mental issues?" gaslighting b.s. I think, personally, that's what pissed me off the most about the entire exchange. (For what my random outrage is worth, which is very little, but that was BEYOND.)
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Hey King, thank you so much for taking the time to watch this important video. 🙏🙏
Looking forward to the Re-watch of the Beatdown. 🥰
It looked like your blood was boiling by the end, now you know how we all felt seeing Ren getting screwed over.
I second other people’s suggestion of watching REN’s Chapters…it is very emotional but it really shows you his journey.
He’s back in Canada now having intensive treatment. Really hope it helps him. ❤️🩹
Ren literally offering to move past the madness and collaborate with him angered me because Kujo did NOT deserve that level of generosity in any capacity. That's why Renald is a real one
@@itskingprime, you are 100% right. The nameless one deserved nothing!
Ren is a real one, such an exceptional human! ❤️🩹
@@itskingprime100%! You have it dead on!! ❤ 🫡
I've posted this in Ren's patreon because we're all huge TDIP fans over there! Now imma go listen to this!
A Rising Tide and all that!!
We're huge fans of the TDIP bois!!!
@@itskingprime100% the love will follow you both, together, on your own, wherever, whenever ❤❤❤
This common house potato says TDIP is so good at Ren rabbit hole reactions ❤ many crablings will also agree: We are big fans 🥔 🦀 🪭❤❤❤❤
PS. the common house potato 🥔 🥔 🥔 reference is from one of the live streams building up to the sick boi album reaching #1: Ren and Samuel Perry-Falvey had a bet about how many common house potatoes each could hold in their arms without dropping one: Ren said 34. Samuel Perry-Falvey said 28 (maybe 26 but no it's 28 😂) Ren won 😂
The crablings 🦀🦀🦀 reference is from Ren's actual online Money Game played by us Renegades in the lead up to the Money Game part 3 release. It was amazing: an actual online game involving clues and riddles and culminating in a live stream scavenger hunt. ❤
Obviously this Renegade ❤ Ren 😂❤
This common house potato says TDIP is so good at Ren rabbit hole reactions ❤ many crablings will also agree: We are big fans 🥔 🦀 🪭❤❤❤❤
PS. the common house potato 🥔 🥔 🥔 reference is from one of the live streams building up to the sick boi album reaching #1: Ren and Samuel Perry-Falvey had a bet about how many common house potatoes each could hold in their arms without dropping one: Ren said 34. Samuel Perry-Falvey said 28 (maybe 26 but no it's 28 😂) Ren won 😂
The crablings 🦀🦀🦀 reference is from Ren's actual online Money Game played by us Renegades in the lead up to the Money Game part 3 release. It was amazing: an actual online game involving clues and riddles and culminating in a live stream scavenger hunt. ❤
Obviously this Renegade ❤ Ren 😂❤
Have you watched Ren’s 5 minute thank you speech for getting a million UA-cam subscribers called Defining Success? If not I HIGHLY recommend it. Love that you’re going back to the Beat Down and really like your channel ❤️
PS thank you for not wearing shades x
I'm liking this for the 1 million subscriber video. I don't care about the shades.
Yes, the video is only 5 minutes long and it tells you A LOT about who Ren is and what he values most. You walk away from that video feeling grateful that he's walking the same earth as the rest of us 🥰
Definitely one to watch.i was going to suggest that.
I think I speak for everyone when I say that we can't wait to see you react to Kujo Beatdown again armed with this information ....And now that you've watched a lot of his other videos, you'll see all of the references and understand them! For example, the intro to the beatdown is a takeoff from the intro to sic boi, and Ren is talking to his inner demon just like in Hi Ren and when he talks about Jimmy, it's from money game, The choir, etc ... Now. I feel like you have the proper information to really, really appreciate the song and the video! Enjoy!!!
Now you understand!!! Kujo Beat Down will now be a totally different experience for you!
Subbed! didn’t know you were flying solo as well. Kujo beat down deserves a backstory. I still laugh when I think of you both being introduced to Ren with that song. 😂 much love!
TDIP are still going strong! Sometimes we can't do all the reactions we want so I'm using the down time to do the Reacts we're asked to but but don't have the time to do within recording sessions
We appreciate it! ♥ 🔥
Same! Big up to you for starting at Chapter 54. 😂
Sick Boi is the first physical CD I'd bought in YEARS and I'm so glad I did. You can take Sick Boi off my Apple Music, but not my cd! Glad you took the time to see the backstory on this....gotta revisit the genius of Kujo Beatdown now.
Thank you for taking the time to watch Ren speaking about the Kujo situation. I’m glad that you now have a better understanding of what Ren went through because of Kujo and his girlfriend.
I'm so glad you watched this. The song will make much more sense now, and you've heard enough of Ren's music to understand all of the references in Kujo Beat Down. I can't wait to see you watch it again.
If you're planning to continue doing these longer videos that Siah isn't available for, I'd love to see you watch Ren's 8 chapters, in which he tells his story. Each one is around 15-20 minutes and includes a song at the end. They can be found on his renmakesstuff channel, and also in a Troubles playlist on his regular channel (renmakesmusic). His story is incredible, and well worth watching, even if you decide not to react to it.
I knew you'd give this the love it deserves. Low key I'd love to see you explaining this to Siah 😅
Absolutely! 😎 🍿
Oh yes! Even those reactors who work in the music business, get hopelessly confused trying to summarize this mess. It's hilarious every time :-D
💯 there for it
Sooo glad you reacted to this. It is awesome to get the full story. Ren also has an amazing series he did on his RenMakesStuff page that shows his full story in chapters with a song at the end of each if you were interested in something a little longer form there as well.
37:32 respectfully, it was an idiot man leading this charge after his own idiot actions
My thoughts as well. Unless the chronology is a bit off in Ren’s explanation, by the time she becomes a part of this story everything is already blown the 🤬 up.
Ren’s patience and kindness are honestly on another level! Not sure anyone else ever would have offered that olive branch so many times.
Love that you're taking the time to watch this because it really illuminates how Ren moves in the world. He has so much integrity and when he professes his values, it's FRFR, not just some surperficial $#*! Just another reason in the long list of reasons that I love and respect Ren so much as an artist. And now, listening to more... my heart is so happy to hear your outrage. 😍
Kujo ruined his own career/life. His greed f'd him up. Nothing Ren or anyone else did.
47:02 sadly he got too sick before he could do this. I'm not a praying man, but he's got my prayers 🙏🏼
You can see why we wanted you to see this. Its so clear.
Subscribed for all those Ren reactions ❤
Fantastic video, your reaction and emotions were very evident and rightly placed. As a suggestion, explaining this video to Siah should be the beginning of the new reaction to Kujo Beatdown. Probably all of us would like to hear that explanation and his reaction to the situation.
So glad I found you over here! There is a playlist on REN’s UA-cam called troubles. This playlist has chapters with ren sitting down telling his whole story. As a renegade it may be something to see. Maybe one of the best stories you’ve heard too! It really is an incredible story.
Thanks for taking the time to watch this one.
I'm so glad to know that you started this channel! Thanks for taking the time to go back and watch this. I remember the first time I watched it, I was so mad I couldn't sleep. Ren, of all people ... and Sick Boi, of all songs ... !!! And the monumental stupidity of Kujo for turning down the chance at a 50/50 collab with Ren!
The thing that gets me the most, is the fact that all this HAS affected Ren's health after 18 months treatment in Canada this Kujo issue and Ren's work commitments floored the poor guy, too the point he went blind in one eye ( temporary ) thank god. Anybody's mental health would be in tatters. Now Ren's back in Canada receiving costly treatment for his health that maybe he shouldn't have needed if Kujo and Co had an ounce of sense/intelligence, hey wtf even ganga might have helped them.😂😂 Renegades love Ren's Music,body n soul it was hard to watch seeing the bright lights of Ren slowly dim over those few months since the secret garden party. Thanks for doing the deep dive King. You know it was a serious one! Ren didn't move from his chair and go walking 😂😂 ✌ Peace out all❤Get better soon Ren we all luv ya bro❤from D in the UK 🇬🇧
More King Prime!! Yay!!! Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this!
Thank you for watching this that's why Ren is the GOAT
Yup, it's long, but well worth the time.
Thanks for watching it with all of us peeking in :)
So brilliant that you’ve taken the time to gain clarity & understanding of where, why & how “Kujo Beat Down” was created & now when you both re-watch, you will see & feel what all us Renegades did!! And why it is such an epic track & video. Big Up to you KP ❤❤❤ love to be a fly on the wall when you tell STG all about it 😂
I love that we not only got the Kujo Beatdown from this situation, but he met with the head of UA-cam Music and they put the original Sick Boi back up, and then we got Money Ties which was 50/50 collab with another producer kujobeats screwed over. He offered the deal kujo rejected someone else who had been a victim of his nonsense and made an incredible track. Talk about turning it around!
Unfortunately the situation contributed to making him really ill again so he didn't get to release the revamped Sick Boi, or finish other videos he had been making. He's back in Canada now restarting the treatment he thought was over. 😢
Really one hour ago back in Canada 🇨🇦 thanks for telling us damn I’ll again 😢
Yes I care very much for Ren he lives 3o miles from me aswell
😮so sad 😢 for him he is a genius.
Thank you for doing this, legend.
I expected you would get it and be furious about the situation. The good news is when you didn't get it /like the Kujo beat down the first time round , you still gave it respect and gave Ren another listen. The rest is history. Cant wait for the Kujo reaction part 2
I am happy you have the new point of view for the rewatch. I would love to see a members only vid of you explaining this to Siah on TDIP.
Since you like to do reactions so much that you occasionally do some alone, then Ren has a few videos where he's simply talking about his life, or there are some really good interviews you could check out. I've got suggestions if you like.
Throw them my way!
@itskingprime His Million Subscribers video is great. There's "the moment we heard the result on radio one" which is on his channel RenMakesStuff. It's him and his crew who were visiting him in Canada waiting to hear if Sick Boi was going to hit #1. There's a very difficult one to watch that he made about 9 years ago for his VLog channel called MeVsME. It's from before his Lyme diagnosis when he's possibly at his worst. He actually used it as a promo in the lead up to the release of "Hi Ren". That's on his main channel under the videos tab. It's right next to "Hi Ren". For me though, that's a heartbreaking video and difficult to watch. The video that Rick Shea got Harry Mack to do a tribute for Ren was awesome.
Wanna hear something dope.... The One Mil video drops tomorrow
@@itskingprime Nice! I'm glad I subbed
@@itskingprime yesssssssss🤘
Yay!! So happy to see you wanted to do more reactions so you simply started a solo channel for the extra ones. ❤
Yes, this video provides soooo much context!
Im at 17.30 and KPs blood pressure is RISING 😂
Livid is an understatement!
@@itskingprimeoh I was screaming at my phone when I watched it. I'm SO looking forward to you revisiting Kujo beat down now. I discovered you on that vid and shared it on Reddit because it was hilarious, your confusion 😂. Now Im a big fan because you reactions have just been incredible. RENALD!!!
Glad you took the time to break all this down. I think you needed the context and now to watch your re reaction to the Beat Down! ❤
So glad you watched this and now know the whole context of the song ❤
Big up for catching this up so you know the context first hand.
Every time Ren faces an obstacle, he gives us a creative solution or set of solutions that are in line with his principles. While he is only human, he is the kind of human we need in this world. Both for himself, but more importantly, because he has helped us find others who share the same aspirations.
It all makes sense now.. I can't wait for the re-reaction to Kujo beatdown ❤
And all this reflected on Ren's health and started a series of mental struggles for him😢
Kujo is an actual donut!! I'm crying😂😂😂
Thanks for doing this one. Actually there are a lot of BTS videos worth watching.
Cheers from Berlin 👍🍀😎
The bit about kujo saying he’s always treated fairly is BS as there’s a guy who reached out to Ren as he had been treated the same and worked on money ties with Ren
Yes, the producer Nayz, had a similar experience with KJB so they talked a lot and he and Ren ended up collaborating on Money Ties. Ren being Ren did a 50/50 split.
that’s the one! I couldn’t remember his name, thanks 🙏
Yeah KP this whole thing was a CLUSTERF***. So glad you got your context for KBD and really grateful you took the time! I've been holding out hope you'd check it out 🫶 You're all in now... I think after this you can call yourself a Renegade 💪 Now I'm pumped to watch you react to it all over again! I bet Vibe will tune in 🤣
P.S. Never heard you use SHATTUP as anything other than a compliment until right NOW!
Love you TDIP Bois 🫶
I've been dying for you guys to watch this, I knew you'd get it and then Kujo Beat Down would make sense. Make sure you tell Siah everything!! I'm looking forward to the rereaction! 😂🖤
You should watch Ren's King Dotta diss/battle. Obviously you need to watch Dotta's diss first, but I think you'll love what Ren does.
This is the first reaction to this video that I’ve watched. And, wow, had no idea I’d get so much enjoyment out of watching someone else get mad about this, lol.
He’s to nice I lost my temper so quick 😂😭
I'm angry for Ren AND at Ren! He offered to hook him up even after all the lies 🤯 but that's a testament to how good a person Ren is!
Thanks for taking the time to watch this……watching you go through all the emotions we went through whilst watching this video…..looking forward to seeing you re react to KBD with the context.
Love the fact that on Money Ties, Ren’s most recent drop…..he worked with a 🔥producer called Nayz that had also had a run in with Kujo. Nayz on Money Ties got the 50:50 split that Kujo turned down …..
Subbed, I’ve really been enjoying you guys, and I’m always up for someone seeing what makes Ren’s loyal fanbase tick (and why the Beatdown was so important)
I also loved your lightbulb moment around 33:45 😁
I love your reaction. Your knowledge of this space is very helpful, but also, nice to see another person on Ren’s side.
YESSS!!!! I love that you took the time to watch this with us❤ All the Renegades and a lot of reactors were HYPED after this video, waiting for the Beat Down😈And eventhough most of us were hoping for Ren to really put this guy in his place, I think many were still quite surprised to see how much anger he put into this song, as we're not used to that from Ren. The first time I watched the song I was a bit shocked, but I LOVED it!!!!! Can't wait for you guys to give Kujo Beat Down a second try😊😁😎
Thank you so much for for doing this ❤️
(another RENegade here)!!- to gain some perspective of the situation and to actually get to know Ren a little as a person - and how he hates greedy people but also his gentleness and kindnesss. As another Brit I totally understand you.
« Man try to bump man 😂😂😂🤣 »
Whaaaat, nah nah 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
This was amazing! Best reaction of the Kujo Beat Down origin story! Definitely have to rewatch now.❤️
Put my whole soul into my work legally... im the subject matter you are part of the scenery. #chills 😊
So weird to see you without sunglasses 😎
big up king prime
I cannot WAIT to see the TDIP new reaction. I am so excited to see this.
Well I guess it's a good thing its my day off! Looks like I just found my activities for the next while! Grabbing my snacks so I can dive in to this video!
Thank you for reacting to this ! It makes all sense now, doesn't it ?! Looking forward you re-reacting to Kujo's Beatdown ! ❤ You have a new sub
#ren was more than trying & fair
I was so p!ssed off for him as this all happened just before I seen him at SGP - he must have been beyond stressed but was still his awesome self 🖤🤍
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I'm so glad you watched this and have an understanding now about where it came from. Ren had put up a post on his community page after this that asked for reactors to support him by doing reactions to it. Everyone was quite excited and hyped about it. Renegades were watching all the reactors react to this video and sharing the info all over the place to make sure as many people was possible were there for the premiere. The reactions came out almost immediately after the premiere ended and we were all watching every one of them that came out to make it blow up big. Everyone did a great job at getting that all done. There were something like 21k people in the chat for it. If you haven't already, you need to do yourself a favor and go watch Uncle Ray's reaction to Kujo Beat Down. Ray is always funny, but this one was Epic.
Suck yourself, ya bloodclot! OMG you had me crying. 🤣🤣🤣
Glad you watched this. I subbed for your reactions!
Subscribed ! Love your reactions - Cheers ! ☮️🔥☮️
Ren has more patience than a doctor 😂....... Kujo and his gf have finally shattap ..... I would be very surprised if any artist work with Kujo in future. Glad you delved into this ❤
Glad it all makes sense to you now!
So glad you did this reaction! I didn't realize I hadn't subscribed to your channel. New sub!
I'm going to share this over on Ren's Patreon reactions chat, though I have a feeling others beat me to it.
Then I'm going to watch your Ren and Sam Tompkins reaction. So cool!
Thanks for showing Ren some love. 💖🙋♀️
I'm so happy to see this!! Subbed! Thank you so much 💯
So glade you've watch this :D
Now you know why we were SO THERE for pissed off Ren! You're Primed (see what I did there lol) for a rewatch and completely new perspective of Kujo Beatdown!
Thank god, I found it ! I was heading to a convention for the weekend and thought I'd imagined seeing this on the time line 🎉🎉❤
I love that you did this Lamce.
I can't wait for you to re-react to Kujo Beat down! You'll feel the words & video soooo differently! I'm glad you went back and watched this! 🤙👏✨👍
So glad you watched this and now understand . I had watched the background first and was so speechless when I first watched it. A piece of art. 💜💜💜💜💜
@17:40 watching you get righteously angry and me over here like ✊!! 💜
I wondered where the Reaction was. Iv subscribed
Awesome! So glad you got caught up. Love you guys.
You should kill two birds with one stone. React to uncle ray reacting to you reacting to Kujo beatdown🫡!
Yes you do have to re watch ❤
I cant wait for you to re-watch it!!!
It really pumps you up for the music video, doesn't it We had to wait a week. lol
King Prime, you are all of us in your reaction here. The outrage and absolute confusion on Ren's behalf for this knob are felt, even a couple months later. KujoBeats is... I don't understand this man. I don't think I even want to
Now you know 😂😂 cant wait to see yalls new reaction to kujo beat down 😂😂 😁💜💜🥹
Omg I saw this pop up I was like who da fuq is trying to use primes name 😂😂
Great you watched this. Makes so much more sense now. If you want to find out about Ren's life dealing with his illness check out his chapters. I think it's 8 long videos so perhaps for your own enjoyment but they are quite interesting and emotional.
Glad you took the time. I think Siah needs to watch it as well before you react again. Props 👍🏼
Oh and a lil fact… the he producer from money ties got screwed by kujo too that’s why ren chose to do the track with him.
Just the fact that you took the time to retrospectively react to this is the bollocks! Already a TDIP sub. Now a new sub here as well. X
Thank you King Prime for doing this one❤❤❤
This is why just getting the bits and pieces from fans in the comments section doesn’t really give you the FULL picture - literally with ALL the receipts! It’s why Ren pushed KuJo Beat Down to the WHOLE reaction community? ( now you know the meaning of double in the title ).
*** I also think we should be pushing Money Ties because during this whole fucked up situation Ren was contacted by a producer @Nayz who had a similar nightmarish experience with KuJo. Ren thought THEY should collaborate on a track , which because MONEY TIES ( also playing up the double with mone-tize . AND WITH THIS COLLABORATION REN GAVE NAYZ THE EXACT SAME 50/50 SPLIT ON EVERYTHING, INCLUDING MASTERS AND CREDITED HIM AS THE PRODUCER . In fact on @nayz YT channel he said that Ren actually did do work on the production ( because it’s Ren after all) but didn’t credit himself as such.
It really give a whole new perspective and meaning to Sick Boi and Money Ties.
hugs
Ya.. it changes things. When you re-watch the beat down you'll be .. the choir, the girlfriend...plus now you'll get the Hi Ren reference. I enjoyed watching your confusion the 1st time but I'll like the "informed" reaction more.
Now you understand why we were all cheering at Kujo Beat Down!
I don’t think I will ever quite understand how it all went from Kujo selling a beat with a stolen sample and the owners getting in touch for the publishing money they’re owed to then somehow escalating into Kujo and his lawyer using a mistake made by others, not Ren himself, to demand money from Ren as if he was the thief. It’s like there’s a huge gap and I suspect it’s between Kujo’s ears 👀
But at least we got this righteous rage! Ren showed us exactly what happens when you push the nicest guy in the industry too far… he needed to let the anger out somehow and boy did he do just that 🔥
50:28 looking forward to the “beatdown round 2” gonna be off the hook!
Always love your reactions, alone or not. I was #786 sub, and the 601st like...hope to see more. Love and respect from North Carolina, USA.
I just love how they have to take us RENegades into acct while considering the situation. Seriously, if he literally told us to do something. We'll do it. Nothing violent. But like general strikes? Yes
Yeah Ren os such a good guy..❤
Thank you for doing this deep dive. im excited for your fresh look at KBD 👀
I'm so happy to find this channel ❤ already love TDIP ❤❤ Liked and Subscribed to thank you for supporting Ren ❤