RTI No.1 Enfield (C-Grade) DOES IT SHOOT? Range Test ⚠️ Royal Tiger Imports SMLE Lee-Enfield Review
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- KEYHOLE WARNING! I knew not to expect much when I ordered this C-Grade No.1 Mk.III Lee-Enfield from Royal Tiger Imports. I didn't think this Milsurp SMLE would be this bad, though! Upon initial inspection, I noticed the Bolt Head looked deformed. On the range, I discovered the bolt wouldn't close on a .303 round. In this deep-dive review, we cover inspection, cleaning, troubleshooting, and firing of this Military Surplus Enfield. Perhaps the range results will determine if what RTI is asking is justified.
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A true British firearm for the people. One that doesn't shoot.
I got two of these. One was an Iraqi marked 1936 BSA. The other was a 1924 Lithgow. Both have good bores but need a lot of stock work. I posted both to my UA-cam channel.
I am working on a part two where I'll replace the stocks. Even found some QLD Maple wood for the Lithgow.
C grades are a gamble for sure but make for good projects.
Great cleaning tips in this video too!
When buying most of these mil surps from RTI, I approach it as if these were picked up off the battlefield a couple months after the fighting. Some of them were under a tree and protected a bit, but the majority lay on the bottom of a muddy trench- and look the part . Caveat emptor ......
Don't forget, Numrich passed on buying these rifles for parts $15 ea. That pretty much sums up what they're actually worth.
Is Numrich another company?
@@ethanleveque numrich, or gunpartscorp, is a huge parts listing retailer. They buy parts or guns at wholesale and disassemble them to sell individual or stripped components and also stock reproduction parts as well.
Oh damn
Quit thinking your going to get a shooter for 15 bucks
how did you know that!? super funny numrich passed lol they buy anything for $15
You should get an endoscope for looking inside barells or chambers. Even a cheap one can give a decent view.
Teslong has ones that connect to the phone for under 100
Klein also makes one for around $40 at Home Depot.
I got so incredibly lucky when I tried this same deal. The wood was dry, filthy, and had bugs in it but it cleaned up nicely. Plenty of rifling still and it shoots great.
Thanks for the intel. I had never considered using a drill to scrub bores before.
Great, informative video once again. I never fail to learn something from you every time!! Keep it up.
Q. Did you check the firing pin length? At 7.29 it is clear the middle bolt face has a protruding pin. If the pin was too long, sitting too far forward in the bolt tube, it could account for your issue trying to screw down the bolt head, and lack of ability to close on a cartridge in chamber. It is possible to incorrectly seat the pin too far in our out when inserting a pin and locking into the cocking piece. Make sure it is actually an SMLE pin, rather than from a Mk4. Yes, they are supposedly interchangeable, but the No.III is a 100-year old rifle.
As to American Firearms in Ethiopia: At the end of World War Two many Unserviceable/ Damaged Rifles were gifted to the Ethiopian Government. It was cheaper to do so than bring them home for refurbishment. The Ethiopian Government was the friendliest and most stable .Captured Enemy Weapons were depoted there as well. All Battlefield Pickups. Later, in 1954 thru 1962 the CIA flew in thousands of “Aid to Developing Nations “ Arms and Ammunition. Much of those were M-1/ M-2 Carbines. We also gifted them T-6 Training Aircraft ( rebuilt as Fighter/ Bombers.) Ethiopia was at War with Somalia then
Back bore that muzzle, should help. Of course im not seeing the bore and chamber. $200+ a very cheap mazazine+ transfer fees and shippi ng. Maybe but in a couple of years you might wish you bought a couple. I bought a number of SKS rifles, very nasty, for about $120 each. I cleaned the worst of the bunch and it shoots great!
I bought one from them. Ended up returning it. I said i wanted a refund but they had a replacment rifle set aside. They ended up giving me the refund but months later i was at my lgs and they said they had a rifle for me. It was the replacment rifle! It actually had a good bore on it. But sadly these are all mismatched and beat up. I recently found a pristine 1916 all matching from lodgewood. Still in the cosmo for 550$ excellent bore
Very good to know! Thank you for the time and money you invest in rolling the dice for us!
Thanks!
Thanks so much! I really appreciate it 😁
I picked up an B grade early last year. 1918 mkIII* The stock and wood were in very good shape. No parts missing. Metal was missing most of its finish but no rust. The barrel had a massive bulge in it. It was visible in the barrel even before cleaning. It was also visible on the outside of the barrel. Not a huge issue as I was planning to rechamber it as is. Royal Tiger really does seem to be a crap shoot with what you get.
I bought one of these in October and got very lucky with the bore condition and no missing pieces. Turned out to be a beautiful and good shooting rifle, but it definitely took some work to bring it back
I enjoy your channel and I like watching the videos and content you create. That being said I wish that you would at some point stop buying eight or 10 $100 rifles and buy one nice one for your collection
Rolled the dice on a C Grade lebel 1886 M93, buttstock is swollen and loose, but overall looks promising and isnt missing any parts. Hope you get a chance to pick one of those up!
at least a good display item as an example of this particular model
At some point, buying guns from RTI and filming it is just an exercise in watching a crash test dummy hit the wall.
The slow-mo is gory and interesting, but in the end, we all know LT. Dan is going to eat it every time. 😂
If you’re continuing to shoot with a non matching bolt I might recommend you check how much the locking lugs actually lock up. These were hand fitted rifles unlike modern machining methods. Could result in more wear on your receiver or bolt or catastrophic failure. Also I find most of my enfields stabilize s+b 180 grain pretty well. Haven’t had a lot of luck with 174 grain ppu personally. Hope this helps
It really is indicative of the state of milsurp right now. 20 years ago that same 200 could get you a much nicer enfield, and something like this would never be imported because they simply weren't worth it and are likely why these rifles have sat there until now.
I think it is indicative of the state of buyers but not what inventory is out there. People have gotten so used to pushing a button on their computer and buying something that they settle for RTI garbage. Go to a gun shop, gun show or bulletin board at a range and you'll find people selling excellent condition surplus rifles for not much more than what RTI sells this junk for. All the nice rifles that were imported in the past are still out there but you have to buy it individually and not from an importer.
In my opinion, if you have money to throw away and just want a "Wall Hanger", RTI is the way to go.... You're "rolling the dice" with any grade rifles they offer.... You just have to remember that... And that'll go for anything you buy unseen over the Internet... There's a 50/50 chance that you going to be happy with the purchase...
Could be the fact they are boat tail bullets as that is what is marked on your box along with your bore condition. My RTI no4 mk1* rifle had a nice bore with 2 grove rifling but keyholed with boat tail ppu. Once I started loading flat base bullets it wasn't keyholing.
The PPU 150gr soft points & FMJ are both boat tails. Flat base bullets may in fact stop the key holing
@@donwyoming1936 it seems most if not all of the 303 ppu loads are boat tail even fmj 174gr. Had to pull all of them and put flat base but at least was able to save the bullets for my mosin.
@@donwyoming1936when did PPU switch to boat tails i bought PPU 150gr because they weren’t ill have to pull one apart and check
Nevermind I just looked at it seems as though everything in 303 is boat tail now should’ve paid more attention when i picked up the box. S&B uses .308 diameter bullets is there any other brand besides reloading? Or should i just find a nicer bore
Its a "wall hanger". Or for use by a historical reenactor, good for shooting blanks.
choreboy copper pads are nothing short of amazing
So, I wonder if these results are because PPU uses Boattail projectiles in their ammo. I had a 1916 Spanish Mauser Carbine my friend insisted was shot out. I had some FN produced 7MM Mauser I shot with flat bases, and they stabilized just fine. I pulled a bullet and compared it to my friends hand loads and the factory ammo used a flat base while my friends was a boat tail bullet. The FN had a base diameter of .287 while the boat tail bullets had .283 as the waist diameter.
Flat base projectiles do tend to stabilize better in worn bores.
If he reloads, I'd suggest trying hollow base projectiles from surplus 7.62X54R light ball ammo. That skirt will expand to fit the bore.
I'd give the RTI C grade SMLE's a miss going by seeing your experience. However as the saying goes..."Experiences may vary". 😂
I've got a few SMLE's of my own. A 1922 Lithgow & a 1916 Enfield. The Lithgow is a superb shooter that gets ridiculously tight groups at club shoots.
Might soon have another couple that are WW2 era manufactured units (a 1942 Lithgow & a 1941 Maltby, which is a No.4 Mk.1).
Cheers
the no.1 was the first rifle i ever bought when i was 18 i paid 100 bucks for it and it was pretty damn clean and worked flawlessly wonder what its worth now. not that id ever sell it.
Consider counterboring it. You can do it with a drill press and a .375" reamer.
Bought some of mine close to 60 yrs ago pulled them out of a barrel at an old country store I think for about 20 bucks a piece compared to the one you've got mine looks brand new😮
I gotta say Readiness! SHE IS SALTY!!! She is a Salty salty old Ennie. Also, I notice you got a Old BSA 1918.? My old 1918 had a Roundie rearend. So that should tell you the bolt on your 1918 might be incorrect.
Yeah the bolt is most likely a replacement
I recommend JB bore paste to do a deep clean on the bore and chamber.
Some of us buy the cheapest firearm junk as a challenge to see what we can make of them.
Without RTI your channel wouldn't exist
I had a B Grade No.4 Mark one I got from RTI it had two bullets jammed in the barrel. I sent it back a month later I got a replacement No.4 Mark1. I went to chamber a round it would not chamber. I got a barrel hone and honed out the chamber and part of the barrel and it would take a bullet. So after that happened I no longer buy anything from RTI.
Your're a brave one shooting that rusty old crap, I would'nt even hang that on a wall.
RTI special people keep buying them
Most 174gr bullets I’ve measured are .308 and are boat tail and PPU 150gr soft point measure .311 are flat base id say that the bore is shot out if the PPU 150 gr are key holing
Just realized that they don’t sell the flat base softpoint any more just the boat tail my bad
I want to make a head ups but the owner of Casto's curios been arrested a month ago. The new alternative is Milsurp Munitions.
Ensure the extractor on the original bolt can actually move. If it's gunked up you would not be able to chamber a round
303 brit used to be loaded with cordite sticks back in the day which may explain any weird overpressure or fitment issues, the chamber pressures get a little weird whenusing cordite sticks😳
At 200 dollars and having to replace the bolt and barrel costing another 200 bucks all your getting is a rusted reciever and badly damaged stock. It not worth you would be better off getting a b grade that at least is a functional rifle but rough. But with a good cleaning and some small parts you would have a gun that works and is a great peice of history. C graded ar just parts guns and most of the major parts are in terrible shape. They should only be 50 bucks. I thank you for your review. I was considering going for one of these but will save up for a b grade or local store find.
Good review of RTI rifes
Good channel and vids.
Would you say it’d be a good trash rod to buy if I were to try and turn it into a delisle 45 clone?
deep cleaning butches bore shine a bore brush and choreboy copper patches cut from pads $1 store
Is this the same grade c you made a short about a couple of weeks or months ago ?
Yup
@@ReadinessReviews inwas wondering what happened to it. I finished a project just as crazy rebuild a ishapore 2a from sarco. A funish experience with success.
I had to do something similar with No4 Mk1 I got from Classic Firearms a few years back. It took me some time but I finally got it up and running last fall and another $200 in parts and headspace gauges. Still haven’t shot it for accuracy just function.
Currently Simpson has some 1955 version of the Enfields that look as new, but not cheap.
There are gems that can be found in them c grades. One of the Iraqi enfields I have would be considered a C Grade due to the bore being a literal sewer pipe but what saves it is the personalization and the history behind the rifle. Would I shoot it? No but I'll still hold on it as part of the collection.
I remember buying all of these import rifles back in the 90s in mint condition for $100 bill or less. My halftimes have changed you can thank the almighty powers to be for no more good import rifles
Just buy a nice one off the surplus market, its a shame to waste ammo on these rough ones. I have a really nice one that will shoot easily inside of a couple inches at 100 yards. Much better experience.
Cheekweld to that stock, yuk!!!
JB bore polish is good stuff!
I was looking for a possible candidate enfield to convert to a 45 with the rhineland conversion kit. Do you think one of the C grades would be a decent way to go try try and keep costs down? Thats with hoping all the parts are serviceable
Maybe make up some dummy rounds for working in the house. That’s PPU can traverse 2 walls in your home.
I love relics. Thinking about getting a couple of these when my tax return comes in.
maybe doing the counter bore?
Good job
I've seen 410 shotgun converted ishapores I'm not sure what goes into that process, might be an option.
Sad that those of limited funds,but wanting a milsurp might get stuck with an ugly, non functional wall hanger.
Hornady.312 ammo ?
try fixing the crown of the barrel
I am guessing get a new bolt, and shoot oversized cast bullets with a gas check, and sure you will get it to shoot, unless the barrel is a sewer pipe.
It’s Royal Tiger Imports (RTI)…JUNK! Enough said.
its a wall hanger
Buy more surplus so I have something to watch lol, remember, every purchase is for your viewers! :)
I can send you ten 1942 174g bimetal jacketed concave base cordite ammo.
Just to see if it makes a difference...
I think just 3-5 would be plenty to see if they perform any better.
Have nothing better to do then ragon Tiger import ps.
Someone likes them as sell,out
Haha, oh man...
Why are you waving a cocked rifle around? ?????
Old world war 1 rifle?
Awesome video RR
For what
Crying that he can’t get a expensive rifle cheap
First round down the range will pull that rust and crud out 😂
I'm done buying anything from the "Sanford and Son" of guns. At best the stuff they sell on the low end are "examples" and not fit for anything other than parting out. I got a Mannlicher with a homemade handguard and missing sights and a Carcano with a broken bolt and a crushed trigger housing - the Carcano was not advertised as a poor grade. They scrub their feedback so its pointless to leave an honest review.
Royal Tiger Imports C Grade = Dumpster Grade!
I'd rather take my chances with a dp rifle! 😂😂😂
Thats a cool and iconic rifle, but i personally would be wearing a bomb squad suit before firing this, in that condidtion. You know your $h!t about guns far more than i though. I only have/fire modern firearms. Mosin is my only old one that i fire, The wall hangers/decorations are old, but wont be fired.
lol it needs a new barrel
are the aim surplus lightweight hi powers any good?
If you like HP-35 clones then yes!
Thats a B grade now lol The C grades dont have bolts or mags.
I told you to quit buying that garbage
It is a waist of money buying crap like that?
LMAO !!! BUYER BEWARE !!! ( you bought a c grade what did you expect ( perhaps call and talk to them and get a shooter
Nah RTI doesn’t care lmao they will tell you to plss off with a smile
@@DelGTAGrndrs bought a few and never had a problem - but i still would not expect much from c-grade rifle - nor would ever buy c-grade
Why do you keep buying junk. The rifle needs a barrel.
Those guys sell shit! I bought 20 ammo boxes and they were so bad I threw them in the dumpster. I would never trust anything they sell. Their stuff is bottom of the barrel, garbage.
Get what you pay for tbh
You knew that these weapons are in a bad shape.
Why do you buy them?. Accept the fact these are the bottom of the bucket.
I rother see you restoring these weapons in a safe to fire condition or scrap te worst cases.