On Oprah's show Terrence said he & siblings were playing as his dad waited in line, that the White man said are you going to let those N's in front of you, that the man much bigger than his 151 lb dad had his dad held up on the wall, his dad.was hitting the man with something in his hand, they both fell & it was a pin & the man died, that it was a bad year for a Black boy with funny colored eyes to move to the projects when his dad went to prison. This rendition is read & emphasized on here as if there is proof it is true, no other side needed & as if it is a therapist"s judgement that like father like son. I don't doubt that watching the incident & life lessons after moving to the projects & whatever else the family encountered has caused him some problems, but it does not mean that is why the man has wife is said to have inherited (nonsense) beater tendencies. I advise you to read the transcript of Oprah's show (interview) of the cast of the movie Crash. i.e. Racism in America.
It is Terrible that a man died. On the other hand this sounds like a racial incident, white man feels he as the right to tell the black man what to do and what to not do.
@J D Now is no different than the 1960s and 1970s. There were those who didn't tolerate it and those who did. It's the same in 2020. Absolutely nothing has changed in that area. There were always the "by any means necessary people" and then there were those who followed all the rules and were meek and mild.
The (Tone), Flavor & assumptive manner in which this narrator describes comes across as consistently assigning total blame & a negative portrayal of this incident, ( the District Attorney didn't have anything on the owner of this channel). "Talking about the prejudged left sided portrayal of Terrence Howard's father & Terrence & assignment of his dad's guilt as she attributes the guilt automatically & totally to them. It is obvious that Terrence could benefit from therapy there is no proof that his aggressive behavior Towards women stems from his dad's encounter with and resulting killing of a man whom it appears could or could not have been the instigator himself.
A lot happened in the twinkling eye of a moment..... In what should have ended in being a happy day...... However, Terrence father told the truth. White folks are often quite aggressive towards Blacks!!!!!
@@ceceliacoehins3547 The media is the same today as back then; reporters LIE and go after sensationalism anything that will sell a story, similiar to today's click bate on line. We CANNOT believe everything we read, hear and at times what we see.
@@ronalove4421 I love him in that movie however he was being mean to every woman's dream husband the ever fine Larenz Tate girl he was fine as hell in that movie too😁😁😁😁.
Terrance's Dad was attacked by the Guy. He was bleeding where the Fritzgerald Guy had kneed him in the groin area _(where he had an old work injury)_ after slamming him against the wall. The man started an altercation that led to him attacking 21yr old Tyrone Howard, over an accusation of cutting in line. This was in Front of Terrance Howard's pregnant Mom & Siblings. Both wives were expecting. The guy died later on in the Hospital from the stabbing. *_It was self-defense according to Witnesses._* That's why he did 11mos for Manslaughter. It's a shame this Happened at all, but on a Family Holiday Trip to the Public Square for the kids to see Santa Clause.🎅 Christmas could Not have been the same after that for both families.
I read a article in Essence once where Terrence said the man insulted his mom and his dad went off. They didn't tell that part. Terrence is a creative genius. People just don't realize the depth of his knowledge. Look up some of the lighting objects he has created. He is thinking on a different dimension. An probably a little eccentric like most highly creative people. Pisces. Some people Can remember early childhood, especially something horrific.
This is actually the first time I'm hearing of this💔 Really a sad story and traumatizing for both Terrance's family and the deceased's family , I honestly feel so badly for Terrance cos that kinda trauma NEVER goes away , it sticks with you and somehow ends up affecting your life😪
True. I can remember being molested at 3 VIVIDLY. I didn't realize it was molestation until I was older but you get the point. To this day when somebody talks about getting a babysitter I'm like huh huh just stay home with your kid. You can go out when they grow up.
HORRIBLE!!! Sad story for both families. I hope that Terrence has recovered emotionally. This isn't his fault. I hope that the other family has recovered as well. What a tragedy for all involved.
His father is actually a very nice man very very talented and caring as far as myself and my family knows he's one person I wouldn't forget from when I was younger he was teaching me how to play the guitar.
I worked with him several times. He is a gentle nice person in front of everyone. A flirt, but he love to teach people how to make it the industry. Nicer that most people with his status.
I went to school with Terrance. He sat in front of me in Trig. I didn't care for him too much as he always had some smarty pants comment towards me. BUT I can say this about him. He is a very smart man academically. He didn't bother anyone but had his own little thing going. He said he was gonna be an actor and he did. Like everyone else that grew up in the area he grew up in, it was not all that great, I can imagine not good at all, but for him to have made it this far is a good thing. and he has my respect.
Boy, the newspaper certainly slanted that writeup in favor of the Fitzpatrick man. Listening to that article, the only thing Fitzpatrick _didn't do_ was part the red sea.
Tragic! Nonetheless-We all have things we’ve witnessed, experienced, and perceived. Maybe this trauma was never resolved- &thus affected his adult life! I speak healing in Terrence’s life& anyone he’s caused pained due to his own pain-I send them love& healing energy.
T.H. is considered a serious BULLY 2 EVER PUT HIS ✋ ✋ ON a WOMAN 🚺.......period! ENUFF SAID! There's ALWAYS the BIG THING 2 DO is 2🚶 🚶 🚶 AWAY🆗!........period!😱😌🌞
@@laveniamaynard267 news flash, strangling a man over an "alleged," skipping the line can also result in a death. I said it once, and will say it again, THANK THE MOST HIGH for that woman with the nail file, whoever you were.
@@dhud9487 a fingernail file is what killed him i thought it was a knife,either way it was tragic,and Terrence's dad didn't have to be that extreme,he could have just beat him up hands on if it was that serious..
Terrence does speak on his father. I remember he told this story years ago in an interview. That was the first time a lot of people heard the story...because he told it. No, he doesn't talk about it over and over because it's a deep scar for him. But to say he "never speaks on his father" is not accurate.
I'm from Cleveland, lived one street over from Terrence Howard's father. Blacks didn't even go downtown that often and were not treated well when they did. We only went to certain stores in certain parts of downtown. I didn't hear that things occurred exactly that way.
@@candy5760 Also, it’s not a religion. Most people who study and do research don’t believe in religion. Only the ignorant is kept captive to things they can’t prove and goes against nature. Let me guess, you believe Jesus is coming back too? Oh boy, I pray the blind will see again🙈
Terrence look just like his father. Regardless of his personal issues...he's still one of MY favorite actors. Plus, he reminds me of my 1st love (in high school)
This sounds like a racial incident. White man believed he had the authority to put a black freed father and his family in their 'place.' I was going to say manslaughter...but this case looks like self defense. My condolences to both families.
I know it’s possible to remember things as toddler because I remember a man (my biological father) with a small Afro, mustache, and fair skin. The man and my mother got into a fight were he twisted my mother’s wrist. I standing in crib watching. I remember my mom crying. I never forgot about it ever. That memory came back to me instantly when I met my father as an adult at 41. When I walked into room at the Veterans Home. When I saw his face it was the same man without hair on his head, full grayed beard, handsome old man. I know you’re able to remember things from the age of 2. That trauma stay with unto this very day.
@@keba773 No I never heard him talk about it. My dad and friends spoke of it a little, but no more than what was already put out there already. I never got the full details until this video. Since it was so long ago and what happened I just felt it would be rude to ask him personally. Although I don't think he would get mad if I did.
If it comes up in front of you, tell pops we're sorry that a racist fool put that ball into play. Tell him that a lot of folks understand and is still rooting for him. #sadAllthechildrenhadtowitness
T.H, He's REALLY a GREAT 👍 ACTOR whom 👀💝💝💝👀but HE STILL "NEEDS 2 WORK on HIS ANGER ISSUES!" NO EXCUSES! BIBLICALLY, CAIN (grew 🔥🔥WITH ANGER) & KILLED HIS BROTHER, ABEL!😱😌🌞
I had a cousin who was stabbed to death in front of her children and one was 4 at the time. He remembers to this day what happened because they talked and still talk about it. The more you talk about it the longer you remember. Especially if you go to therapy right after.
That’s the past. Let it stay there. Remember God was there and the real story is recorded by him. All we can do is speculate 🧐. I just pray that everyone involved finds their solution through Our Lord Jesus Christ. Because that’s the real story.
Some incidents are so traumatizing they're hard to forget. We were in an accident with a semi on an icy bridge. My little cousin was 2 and in the car seat. He remembers details from the collision. It's possible for a young child to recall certain things.
My Mother got mad at me when I told the kids that. But I decided that this myth, lie, whatever, serves no one. The only big jolly guy that gets you something for Christmas is your Granddaddy (my father, a big jolly man). I don’t know why this myth is clung to so much, but moth kids figure it out fairly quickly and they wonder what it is all about.
Mine too! Told me at 6 years old that no fat white man was going to take responsibility for giving my child Christmas gifts. I was ok with that! LOLOLOLOL
Called him the USUAL, "n word I'll put my 💰💸on it!!" White guy HAD💸 💰💸 AND FELT ENTITLED 2 TREAT THE BLACK MAN 4 WHAT WAS INSIDE OF HIS 💝! HE EVEN FOUGHT IN FRONT OF HIS YOUNG KIDS!😌😱🌞
Do you remember Blacks could only enter at a side door and shop in the basement level of department stores by city laws? Our way has been painful and we're still here. We must be something and not nothing.
We're special people, Beautiful, strong, intelligent, talented, and resilient!! GOD LET'S THRIVE AND FLORISH IN ENVIRONMENTS WHERE OTHERS WOULD FAIL!! JUST LIKE THE LOTUS FLOWER IN THE MUD!!
This sounds like a racial incident. White man believed he had the authority to put a black freed father and his family in their 'place.' I was going to say manslaughter...but this case looks like self defense. My condolences to both families.
I heard about Terrence Howard father at Higbee's . But this place is still racist and I want thank you for giving a little more detail about the incident.
So he thinks his African roots are 300 years removed but both his parents are half black. 🤦🏾♀️ When we look at you and now seeing your parents... we see black people.
@J D He mentioned his race and went on to mention he’s Chinese, German and some other stuff... implying his African decent is superseded by whatever he’s mixed with. At the end of the day the world still sees a black man.
Yes, you can remember when you are 2 yrs old. I remember being 9 or 10 months old. I hadn't started walking yet and told my father when I was 3 yrs old something I remembered. He called my mother and had me repeated it in front of her and then located the item I remembered in a storage closet. I didn't think remembering was unusual until I was older and others said they couldn't remember being a toddler.
Well you never know the time or place! Shit is real! Sometimes you gotta just let the death angel skip you! He should've just let the man skip line and then the next one get stabbed
SHE SAID HOWARD SR. WAS CUSSING.IN FRONT OF.THE MAN'S. LITTLE CHILDREN. AND THE ASKED HIM NOT TO CUSS IN FROMT OF HIS CHILDREN. HOWARD. GOT VERY MAD AND STABBED. THIS MAN TOO DEATH. HOWARD. HAD A CHIP ON HIS SHOULDER. FROM LIFE IT SELF..
@@bettyblack704 No he didn't. By all accounts Tyrone was a very quiet and laid back, not one to start anything. The man insulted his pregnant wife and nobody is able to say what was said. If someone insulted your husband and at that time, a white man talking to a black man would've been very disrespectful and belittling. This is how it was for all black folks. If you are not black you don't understand... I definitely do and can understand that even if Tyrone didnt stab him he would've been guilty of something. Thankfully the law at least gave him a bit of a break and he isn't still incarcerated for defending himself.
He only got a year there is a lot missing but the media is still the same instead of reporting this self defense they call him a murderer when he only join his family in line this shows mind your business.
I'm from Cleveland and met Terrance once. My mom went to Empire and so did I. My mom was close to one of his step moms and my ex husband went to school with his brother. So, I'm very familiar with this story and background. Good Job sis!!! Thank you for being thorough and fair in your research.
@@nisey7653 your comment 🤣🤣..... His father probably was very brilliant too and just didn't manifest his genius into anything but Terrence seems to have taken after him very much in that way and he's actually exploring his genius ideas and giving them life.
What is the point you are trying to make by bringing up this old story? Is this supposed to be a reflection of Howard himself? Don't get the significance.
I've often wondered why Some Folks try to Bring up Celebrity's past (especially if it's something bad) if they're popular or well liked, like it's gonna tarnish their image or something. That was a story that l've heard about Terrance Howard family b4, while it's not told the same, it's sad and may have been a tragedy for BOTH men involved, that does NOTHING for my thoughts of Mr. Terrance Howard. I didn't know him personally then and l don't know him personally now, while l'm not sure how the actions of his father affected his Life today, but my Love for him is that of an amazing actor. GOD BLESS Him
I have known Terrance Howard's dad for about 15yrs. He was a customer of mine at a bar and grill in which I was employed. I never knew the ramifications of his incarceration wow. When I first met him he introduced himself as Terrance Howard's dad proudly, he was kind and jovial. He took a liken to me. He spoke fondly about his son. Terrance had just purchased him a new Van. The man he was then is not the man he is now😌
Father was only in his 20s and had three kids. That’s sad also. This factor Terrence’s life that’s why he acts like he does he had no good role model. His mother must’ve been very, very young. Wow I guess her she was 19 and he was 21. They’re still both babies.
😂😂🤣🤣...the way you pronounce the word children & inexcusable is so hilarious😂...but your video is still informative and entertaining in a humorous way😂🤣😭...when you said inscusable instead of inexcusable I was lmao😂😂🤣🤣😭😭😭 sooooo funny
True facts when something tragic happens in your childhood life you remember it just like it happened today.. I had a tragedy happened in my life in front of me when I was about 4 years old.. I remember what happened right down to the science of it all True facts when I became an adult I had to find out what happened and I did....
This is a deep scar for him...why would he want to profit from deep pain in his family. Everyone isn't interested in that. Lots of entertainers have stories like this including LL Cool J and I respect them for not wanting to make movies from family pain ...all for profit. That's sick!
@@lisacox3750 unfortunately, this is a REAL LIFE STORY that happens too often. Terrance Howard has been a famous actor for a LONG TIME. Why bring this up now ? Next year is going to be a time to learn how to FAST and PRAY !!!!!!
@@lisacox3750 Pardon me...but he's told the story himself....why not let it be turned into a movie or book ect... and.. DONATE!!! the...Proceeds!...to Help Other's!.....🙏 It Could Also....HELP....other's who might find themselves in those type of positions.😪
Here is the truth get your facts straight.................................... Tyrone was invited to appear on the program with Terrence but refused. Shortly after Terrence's account of the incident, Tyrone gave an interview to the Cleveland newspaper, The Plain Dealer, in which he claims that his son misrepresented his story and maintained that the altercation was not racially motivated. It wasn't nothing racial that went down. It was two men standing there, both of us acting like damn fools . . . instead of one of us taking the man's role and walking away.[2][4] According to Howard in his interview, after standing in the long line for about 30 minutes, he told his pregnant wife to take Terrence and find a place to sit down. Approximately 45 minutes later, Howard and his sons were close to the front of the line. Howard called for his wife and youngest son to join him in the line. Other people waiting in the line, including Fitzpatrick, did not realize that the woman entering the line was Howard's wife and accused him of letting her cut in. Howard cursed at Fitzpatrick and yelled "If you have anything to say to my wife, say it to me!" Fitzpatrick said "That's a cheap trick, buddy!" and at that point grabbed Howard and pinned him against the wall. After Fitzpatrick fell to the floor from the stabbing, Howard knelt down and tried to put pressure on Fitzpatrick's wounds to stop the bleeding. Some witnesses advised him to flee and he did so in fear. In the interview, Howard expressed remorse for initiating the altercation which led to Fitzpatrick's slaying. Tyrone Howard said of his son's appearance on Oprah: Oprah wanted a sob story, he was there with a sob story. Terrence needed publicity, and I became the meat. I was the feast that day.[2][4] After Tyrone Howard's revelation, Terrence's account of the events was removed from the Oprah website and replaced with a different part of his interview.[6] Fitzpatrick family's version
Some people can remember things that young. All I have to do is mention to my parents, grandparents, uncles, aunts, and other elderly family members things and events I remember in full details and they will tell me how old I was at that time. Thusly, I can remember as far back as one year old.
@@kaamya921 they're consistently on the side of the rich and powerful , on the side of the CIA, on the side of corporations, on the side of the right wing government of Israel... if it not obvious to you now maybe 10, 20 years from now you're gonna get it
I came across this video and decided to play it as I cooked. I am stuck in to this story. You are a great storyteller. You voice is smooth and you kept me wanting to know more. Subscribed and liked. Looking forward to more stories.
I remember Terrence Howard being on the View some years back. He told this story but it's different from the newspaper article. Something was said to his father about his mother and Terrence Howard's dad flipped out.
Why are people upset about her doing a video on Terrence Howard father...the real question is "Why did you click on it and listen?"...for me it's because it's interesting to hear about celebrities have had real life experiences...I will do some research on Terri ology (may be spelled incorrectly)
It's more to the story than what was written doesn't make sense. Likely he said something racial but at that time it would never come out
On Oprah's show Terrence said he & siblings were playing as his dad waited in line, that the White man said are you going to let those N's in front of you, that the man much bigger than his 151 lb dad had his dad held up on the wall, his dad.was hitting the man with something in his hand, they both fell & it was a pin & the man died, that it was a bad year for a Black boy with funny colored eyes to move to the projects when his dad went to prison. This rendition is read & emphasized on here as if there is proof it is true, no other side needed & as if it is a therapist"s judgement that like father like son. I don't doubt that watching the incident & life lessons after moving to the projects & whatever else the family encountered has caused him some problems, but it does not mean that is why the man has wife is said to have inherited (nonsense) beater tendencies. I advise you to read the transcript of Oprah's show (interview) of the cast of the movie Crash. i.e. Racism in America.
You are exactly right
The father seems to be a rationale and kind man. He did no more or less than any other man under those circumstance. I hope he can find peace.
OF COURSE, YOU KNW HE DID!!
Terrence Howard looks just like his dad
My favorite character is the role Howard played in dead Presidents
"Awh, you must be out yo mine mane." Lol!
One of my favorite movies !
Yaas
That's the same role he always plays though..lol still love em
Big Mamas House
It is Terrible that a man died. On the other hand this sounds like a racial incident, white man feels he as the right to tell the black man what to do and what to not do.
True
This was my first thought.
That's how they are raised..
No the black man thinks he can do anything he wants and when someine checks him he becomes violent .
@@frans.3317 CORRECTION: The WHITE man/woman thinks he/she can do or say anything and thinks no one will check HIM/HER.
Black people didn't tolerate Karens and Darens in the 60s-70s
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Lmao!!😂😂😂
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@J D Now is no different than the 1960s and 1970s. There were those who didn't tolerate it and those who did. It's the same in 2020. Absolutely nothing has changed in that area. There were always the "by any means necessary people" and then there were those who followed all the rules and were meek and mild.
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People thought his father was white? He light skinned but don’t look anywhere near white, especially with that afro
Both of his parents are mixed
Yes he does have a big afro. He looks black to me not mixed.
The mom half white
Yeah, he said his father was white
@Trust N U Not with her original nose, look at pics of her before fame. Even earlier work " Living Dolls" and Movie "Strictly Business"
The father's story makes more sense then the reported hyped version. Just as today, we CAN NOT believe the lying media.
Preach
The (Tone), Flavor & assumptive manner in which this narrator describes comes across as consistently assigning total blame & a negative portrayal of this incident, ( the District Attorney didn't have anything on the owner of this channel). "Talking about the prejudged left sided portrayal of Terrence Howard's father & Terrence & assignment of his dad's guilt as she attributes the guilt automatically & totally to them. It is obvious that Terrence could benefit from therapy there is no proof that his aggressive behavior Towards women stems from his dad's encounter with and resulting killing of a man whom it appears could or could not have been the instigator himself.
But you believe this?
A lot happened in the twinkling eye of a moment..... In what should have ended in being a happy day...... However, Terrence father told the truth. White folks are often quite aggressive towards Blacks!!!!!
@@ceceliacoehins3547 The media is the same today as back then; reporters LIE and go after sensationalism anything that will sell a story, similiar to today's click bate on line.
We CANNOT believe everything we read, hear and at times what we see.
Terrance Howard dad looks like his character in Dead Presidents
In a Black Panther sorta way😉
@@ronalove4421 yessss that was the very first time I fell in love with him as cowboy in that movie oh my God his eyes....
@@ronalove4421 he sure does.
@@ronalove4421 I love him in that movie however he was being mean to every woman's dream husband the ever fine Larenz Tate girl he was fine as hell in that movie too😁😁😁😁.
@@ronalove4421 see this is why I love Ashanti she had both of them as leading men in her videos from her first and second album.
Terrance's Dad was attacked by the Guy. He was bleeding where the Fritzgerald Guy had kneed him in the groin area _(where he had an old work injury)_ after slamming him against the wall. The man started an altercation that led to him attacking 21yr old Tyrone Howard, over an accusation of cutting in line. This was in Front of Terrance Howard's pregnant Mom & Siblings. Both wives were expecting. The guy died later on in the Hospital from the stabbing. *_It was self-defense according to Witnesses._* That's why he did 11mos for Manslaughter.
It's a shame this Happened at all, but on a Family Holiday Trip to the Public Square for the kids to see Santa Clause.🎅 Christmas could Not have been the same after that for both families.
I read a article in Essence once where Terrence said the man insulted his mom and his dad went off. They didn't tell that part.
Terrence is a creative genius. People just don't realize the depth of his knowledge. Look up some of the lighting objects he has created. He is thinking on a different dimension. An probably a little eccentric like most highly creative people. Pisces.
Some people Can remember early childhood, especially something horrific.
Are you insinuating that someone insulting a person justifies murder and in front of children at that 🙄
They never tell what the other truly did its always they were such a good upstanding religious person
Demons give many knowledge when they seek them. That’s in the Bible. Look at Steve Jobs and Bill Gates
Yeap he is some one speak is deapth of thoughts SMH
He is one hand some man
This is actually the first time I'm hearing of this💔 Really a sad story and traumatizing for both Terrance's family and the deceased's family , I honestly feel so badly for Terrance cos that kinda trauma NEVER goes away , it sticks with you and somehow ends up affecting your life😪
If you don’t stand for something, you’ll fall for anything. (Per my daddy.)
And my grandma😊she said it all the time
My mother says that
Per me too. This is the whole truth
My mom use to say if you don't fight for something you'll die for nothing....
Per Alexander Hamilton
I believe Terrence Howard, remembers the terrible incident at 2 years old. memory for some people is very strong.
True. I can remember being molested at 3 VIVIDLY. I didn't realize it was molestation until I was older but you get the point. To this day when somebody talks about getting a babysitter I'm like huh huh just stay home with your kid. You can go out when they grow up.
@Cheryl Todd same here only I remember being in the stroller , and being carried in the arms
@@judypeters9308 I want thorough that myself
He looks almost identical to his dad! And his mom is beautiful like Felicia Rashad aka Claire Huxtable!!!
Is she white or mixed?
@@sixteen.candles.4644 is who white or mixed? His mom is mixed, this video states.
His mother looks like a younger Marla Gibbs.
@@marvelousmallory9462 fgjgrikk
@@sixteen.candles.4644 What difference does this make?
HORRIBLE!!! Sad story for both families. I hope that Terrence has recovered emotionally. This isn't his fault. I hope that the other family has recovered as well. What a tragedy for all involved.
They should have listened to Sharon... Sharon didn't want to see Santa.
Well i mean......👀🎅
It's a tragedy.... period! Nothing to joke about!
Sharon had life insurance. It was planned.
I’m sure the family thought this over and over again and it has haunted them.
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His father is actually a very nice man very very talented and caring as far as myself and my family knows he's one person I wouldn't forget from when I was younger he was teaching me how to play the guitar.
I worked with him several times. He is a gentle nice person in front of everyone. A flirt, but he love to teach people how to make it the industry. Nicer that most people with his status.
I went to school with Terrance. He sat in front of me in Trig. I didn't care for him too much as he always had some smarty pants comment towards me. BUT I can say this about him. He is a very smart man academically. He didn't bother anyone but had his own little thing going. He said he was gonna be an actor and he did. Like everyone else that grew up in the area he grew up in, it was not all that great, I can imagine not good at all, but for him to have made it this far is a good thing. and he has my respect.
I can remember things that happened in my life when was 2yrs old for instance a house fire and having to sleep in my dad's car
Are you an actress
Boy, the newspaper certainly slanted that writeup in favor of the Fitzpatrick man. Listening to that article, the only thing Fitzpatrick _didn't do_ was part the red sea.
😂😂 So true
I’m trying to tell you. NY Times still janky to this day.
LOL
😆😆🤷🏽♀️
He was murdered in front of his kids have some compassion.
Who needs the FBI when we have YOU sis💕😂 Damn Terrance now we get it!
Right on Sis. My favorite News Reporter.
Tragic! Nonetheless-We all have things we’ve witnessed, experienced, and perceived. Maybe this trauma was never resolved- &thus affected his adult life! I speak healing in Terrence’s life& anyone he’s caused pained due to his own pain-I send them love& healing energy.
Amen
Amen
Trauma can sit dormant and appear later in life.
Amen
@@darleenmcclung9615 Sorry to reply so late but yes you are soooo right-- trauma can get stuck in a person.
“They “ always paint a much better picture for other folks🤦🏽♀️
ALWAYS!!
T.H. is considered a serious BULLY 2 EVER PUT HIS ✋ ✋ ON a WOMAN 🚺.......period! ENUFF SAID! There's ALWAYS the BIG THING 2 DO is 2🚶 🚶 🚶 AWAY🆗!........period!😱😌🌞
He came on Oprah years ago and told the whole story about his dad.
SURE DID. He is TALENTED and an ABUSER‼️2021
One year for a black man in 1970 I think that was a miracle 🤔😳👍🏾👍🏾
Soooo a black man keeps someone from strangling him, and he becomes a murderer. THANK GOD FOR THAT WOMAN WITH THE NAIL FILE!
And let her tell it was a knife a fingernail file is not a knife. I just hate the way people twist things the way they want
It didn't matter if it was a knife or a file the fact is that it did the same damage resulting in a death.
@@laveniamaynard267 news flash, strangling a man over an "alleged," skipping the line can also result in a death. I said it once, and will say it again, THANK THE MOST HIGH for that woman with the nail file, whoever you were.
@@dhud9487 a fingernail file is what killed him i thought it was a knife,either way it was tragic,and Terrence's dad didn't have to be that extreme,he could have just beat him up hands on if it was that serious..
@@1goldbaby , he did what the hell he's supposed to do. White boy should have minded his own business. sense he didn't, there he Kay in the cemetery.
DAMN HE SPIT HIS SON OUT !!!!
HUH🤔
Yeah, Terrence Howard's Dad is his twin! Maury Povitch wasn't need for that one: He IS the father! Lol
@@r2True2Myself facts lol
Looks like both parents but mostly like mom 2me
I agree - especially in the photo of Terrance Howard’s Dad is being arrested- spitting image.
I freaking love terrence Howard
Why are we digging in this man past over 10 yrs ago
they never miss a chance to make a penny from youtube..they would sell their own mothers
Yeah this is Messy, there are some lines you just dont cross, and there is NO need to go poking around in this mans personal life. thats messy.
@@avamaria8447 yet y'all are here watching it smh
Because he’s black and it’s something negative that “they” feel needs to be exposed. Always something to bring you down.
@@FaithandNova, EXACTLY🔥⏪
Omg! WHAT!!!
Edit: Language of the What! (Ghetto)
That sounds so racist.....
NyTimes trying to belittle the black man.... Sounds so racist smh....
💯💯💯💯💯
Pop's was no joke.. Terrence Howard never speaks on his father.. Terrence Howard looks just like his dad.....
Terrence does speak on his father. I remember he told this story years ago in an interview. That was the first time a lot of people heard the story...because he told it. No, he doesn't talk about it over and over because it's a deep scar for him. But to say he "never speaks on his father" is not accurate.
@@lisacox3750 facts. I watched that interview and it was heartbreaking.
I have seen him tell the story as well. He said after his Dad returned from jail....he was never the same.
So sorry to hear about Terrence howards father's arrest history..
You can still have afro hair and be bi-racial...I think Terrence's mother was afro Latino/ part cuban ...Terrence is 1/4 cuban Latino
Have you considered being a story teller? You are so expressive and your voice calming.
Yessssss. I agree 💯.I'm sitting here listening to the entire thing and it just sounds like I have the radio on
Lol. She would have to enunciate better. But she is still good!
@@huntingtonparkway You are honest ❤👍🏼
Geneva seems to have a sincere caring heart. We all have room for improvement with practice of course.
If you want to write a negative comment, you trolls, please don't attach it to me, just start your own.
Wow he looks just like his dad.
Sure does, how old is terrence? So his father is 71 and his mother 69
@Emontre waters oh yeah, but she would be 69 if she were alive now.
I always say keep your cool cause I'm going home.
Yeap it's not worth it
Exactly!!!!
I’ve never heard this before but love it keeping this in mind thanks for sharing Beverly Boo
🤣🤣lol on life ctfu
Must remember that...
I'm from Cleveland, lived one street over from Terrence Howard's father. Blacks didn't even go downtown that often and were not treated well when they did. We only went to certain stores in certain parts of downtown. I didn't hear that things occurred exactly that way.
How was a 21 year old with his wife and children on Christmas unsuccessful. What was the measure of his success? He was on his way they were babies.
He was probably called him the N word and insulted Howard in front of his children.
I love Terrence Howard and he has written a book called “The Flower of Life” .
He studies secret geometry, a genius
@@faithc.1064 a cult false religion basically if you follow this you’ll go straight to hell
@@candy5760 You sound so lost. Secret geometry is math. Hell is not real, unless you make.
@@candy5760 Also, it’s not a religion. Most people who study and do research don’t believe in religion. Only the ignorant is kept captive to things they can’t prove and goes against nature. Let me guess, you believe Jesus is coming back too? Oh boy, I pray the blind will see again🙈
Yes I Watched Him Tell This Story & That's Not What He Said Happened. Very Sad.
Terrence look just like his father. Regardless of his personal issues...he's still one of MY favorite actors. Plus, he reminds me of my 1st love (in high school)
Always two sides to every story. Definitely sounds like self-defense.
Absolutely, sounds like typical racist issue especially back then. Blk man not allowed to let his kids see yt santa ....
This sounds like a racial incident. White man believed he had the authority to put a black freed father and his family in their 'place.'
I was going to say manslaughter...but this case looks like self defense. My condolences to both families.
@@n.a.348 yes because I’ve seen Terrance tell an entirely different story of his Father being attacked by the white guy.
One had a knife. How is that self defense. U can’t make this race. He was a ass
@@paulasmith4737 He was stabbed with a file.
I know it’s possible to remember things as toddler because I remember a man (my biological father) with a small Afro, mustache, and fair skin. The man and my mother got into a fight were he twisted my mother’s wrist. I standing in crib watching. I remember my mom crying. I never forgot about it ever. That memory came back to me instantly when I met my father as an adult at 41. When I walked into room at the Veterans Home. When I saw his face it was the same man without hair on his head, full grayed beard, handsome old man.
I know you’re able to remember things from the age of 2. That trauma stay with unto this very day.
His dad is a funny cool dude. I know him personally he's been friends with my dad and uncle for years.
Your dad is friends with Terrance dad? You ever heard him talked about this incident?
@@keba773 No I never heard him talk about it. My dad and friends spoke of it a little, but no more than what was already put out there already. I never got the full details until this video. Since it was so long ago and what happened I just felt it would be rude to ask him personally. Although I don't think he would get mad if I did.
@@sharriagreathouse1980 very cool. Im glad he is doing well now.
@@sharriagreathouse1980 idk but you are one GORGEOUS woman
If it comes up in front of you, tell pops we're sorry that a racist fool put that ball into play. Tell him that a lot of folks understand and is still rooting for him.
#sadAllthechildrenhadtowitness
That why he play them crazy roles very well. That's some horrible shit.
That's not true. Fitzpatrick attacked his dad. His dad then stabbed him. He didn't just pop off.
T.H, He's REALLY a GREAT 👍 ACTOR whom 👀💝💝💝👀but HE STILL "NEEDS 2 WORK on HIS ANGER ISSUES!" NO EXCUSES! BIBLICALLY, CAIN (grew 🔥🔥WITH ANGER) & KILLED HIS BROTHER, ABEL!😱😌🌞
Gurl you be bringing it. Wow. I know he probably doesn't want to remember this 🤣 you nailed it
I still haven't put on my clothes🙃yet, I am still glued to this podcast in my PJ'S such good 0ne...
You killed this! Great job💯
I remember things when I was two years old so it’s possible to remember.
I had a cousin who was stabbed to death in front of her children and one was 4 at the time. He remembers to this day what happened because they talked and still talk about it. The more you talk about it the longer you remember. Especially if you go to therapy right after.
That’s the past. Let it stay there. Remember God was there and the real story is recorded by him. All we can do is speculate 🧐. I just pray that everyone involved finds their solution through Our Lord Jesus Christ. Because that’s the real story.
Some incidents are so traumatizing they're hard to forget. We were in an accident with a semi on an icy bridge. My little cousin was 2 and in the car seat. He remembers details from the collision. It's possible for a young child to recall certain things.
Terrance Howard was able to play those dark betrayal roles. It was in his blood. Hes talented.
My dad told me not to believe in Christmas when I was a child...cuts out all the stupid shit.
My Mother got mad at me when I told the kids that. But I decided that this myth, lie, whatever, serves no one. The only big jolly guy that gets you something for Christmas is your Granddaddy (my father, a big jolly man). I don’t know why this myth is clung to so much, but moth kids figure it out fairly quickly and they wonder what it is all about.
I surely told mine.
@Trust N U I like your father.
Mine too! Told me at 6 years old that no fat white man was going to take responsibility for giving my child Christmas gifts. I was ok with that! LOLOLOLOL
Howard, told the story, several years ago. The white man used racial statements towards Howard's mother. I do not know about this story.
Not that what he did was right but I got the feeling he had a reason.
The media has a habbit of using tragedies to instigate racism.
Called him the USUAL, "n word I'll put my 💰💸on it!!" White guy HAD💸 💰💸 AND FELT ENTITLED 2 TREAT THE BLACK MAN 4 WHAT WAS INSIDE OF HIS 💝! HE EVEN FOUGHT IN FRONT OF HIS YOUNG KIDS!😌😱🌞
A reason to stab a man to death in front of his children!😳
It's always right to defend yourself!
Do you remember Blacks could only enter at a side door and shop in the basement level of department stores by city laws? Our way has been painful and we're still here. We must be something and not nothing.
We're special people, Beautiful, strong, intelligent, talented, and resilient!! GOD LET'S THRIVE AND FLORISH IN ENVIRONMENTS WHERE OTHERS WOULD FAIL!! JUST LIKE THE LOTUS FLOWER IN THE MUD!!
This sounds like a racial incident. White man believed he had the authority to put a black freed father and his family in their 'place.'
I was going to say manslaughter...but this case looks like self defense. My condolences to both families.
Nope. The low class loser murderer was pushing ahead in the line, using foul language in front of children and acting like an animal.
Wow! This was really insightful. It also explains so much about Terrance and how I've thought of him as eccentric and extremely intelligent.
I heard about Terrence Howard father at Higbee's . But this place is still racist and I want thank you for giving a little more detail about the incident.
What does it take for a Blackman with courage to live in this white supremacy society?
So he thinks his African roots are 300 years removed but both his parents are half black. 🤦🏾♀️ When we look at you and now seeing your parents... we see black people.
Exactly
@J D He mentioned his race and went on to mention he’s Chinese, German and some other stuff... implying his African decent is superseded by whatever he’s mixed with. At the end of the day the world still sees a black man.
I love 💗 Terrance Howard! Wish i could meet him when I go to California
Thank you, thank you, thank you. This is a balanced portrayal of this tragic experience as much as was publicized.
Yes, you can remember when you are 2 yrs old. I remember being 9 or 10 months old. I hadn't started walking yet and told my father when I was 3 yrs old something I remembered. He called my mother and had me repeated it in front of her and then located the item I remembered in a storage closet. I didn't think remembering was unusual until I was older and others said they couldn't remember being a toddler.
This is so senseless that a man got killed over waiting to see Santa Claus, and it happened in front of the kids too! So tragic🎅😡🔪
Well you never know the time or place! Shit is real! Sometimes you gotta just let the death angel skip you! He should've just let the man skip line and then the next one get stabbed
@@theobservantone3506 Exactly and that's how I meant it👍💯
@@theobservantone3506 let the next one get stabbed?? TF kind of logic is THIS??
SHE SAID HOWARD SR. WAS CUSSING.IN FRONT OF.THE MAN'S. LITTLE CHILDREN. AND THE ASKED HIM NOT TO CUSS IN FROMT OF HIS CHILDREN. HOWARD. GOT VERY MAD AND STABBED. THIS MAN TOO DEATH. HOWARD. HAD A CHIP ON HIS SHOULDER. FROM LIFE IT SELF..
@@bettyblack704 No he didn't. By all accounts Tyrone was a very quiet and laid back, not one to start anything. The man insulted his pregnant wife and nobody is able to say what was said. If someone insulted your husband and at that time, a white man talking to a black man would've been very disrespectful and belittling. This is how it was for all black folks. If you are not black you don't understand... I definitely do and can understand that even if Tyrone didnt stab him he would've been guilty of something. Thankfully the law at least gave him a bit of a break and he isn't still incarcerated for defending himself.
He only got a year there is a lot missing but the media is still the same instead of reporting this self defense they call him a murderer when he only join his family in line this shows mind your business.
OMG. You did incredible research and presentation. I wish I could do half as much RP on my job. Just excellent 😊
Waiting on part 2👍that explain how Terrence Howard is so Smart & Talented.
We will not continue to be disrespected. We are all of the human race 👊🏽😘 Where is the love
Passive aggressive
And people wonder why we as black people stay so damned angry, if it aint this, its that but its always the damn media.
I'm from Cleveland and met Terrance once. My mom went to Empire and so did I. My mom was close to one of his step moms and my ex husband went to school with his brother. So, I'm very familiar with this story and background. Good Job sis!!! Thank you for being thorough and fair in your research.
Girl this was good I enjoyed this
That was so interesting. I love the research stories you do. The info you find is outstanding to learn about. You are a great researcher. ✌💚
Most geniuses are not regular people.
What you mean?
Most geniuses are withdrawal from people,usually called weird.
Do they stab people?
@@deidramartin6762 Well we know you're not a genius bc she's referring to Terrance, not his dad. 🤣😅🤣
@@nisey7653 your comment 🤣🤣.....
His father probably was very brilliant too and just didn't manifest his genius into anything but Terrence seems to have taken after him very much in that way and he's actually exploring his genius ideas and giving them life.
What is the point you are trying to make by bringing up this old story? Is this supposed to be a reflection of Howard himself? Don't get the significance.
I like knowing the history of the stars😮😮
I have always said that terrace had a crazy look in his eyes!!
:/ yeah. Eyes are windows to the soul. U can just tell when someone is off
Do true, he has abusive tendencies
Terrence Howard will carry his father's burden to his grave.
Prayers.
Why
.. white folks say they aren't responsible for the atrocities of their forefathers
@@valeriecoleman6480 EXACTLY💯💯💯 YOU ARE ON POINT SISTA!!!
Amazing story teller.
Awesome video! Can't wait for part 2
I've often wondered why Some Folks try to Bring up Celebrity's past (especially if it's something bad) if they're popular or well liked, like it's gonna tarnish their image or something. That was a story that l've heard about Terrance Howard family b4, while it's not told the same, it's sad and may have been a tragedy for BOTH men involved, that does NOTHING for my thoughts of Mr. Terrance Howard. I didn't know him personally then and l don't know him personally now, while l'm not sure how the actions of his father affected his Life today, but my Love for him is that of an amazing actor. GOD BLESS Him
They were just young adults in the 70's.
Tragic.
I have known Terrance Howard's dad for about 15yrs. He was a customer of mine at a bar and grill in which I was employed. I never knew the ramifications of his incarceration wow. When I first met him he introduced himself as Terrance Howard's dad proudly, he was kind and jovial. He took a liken to me. He spoke fondly about his son. Terrance had just purchased him a new Van. The man he was then is not the man he is now😌
I think he is very very good looking.
Yes very good looking
GREAT ARTICLE! 🙃🙄 CAN'T WAITE FOR PART 2 (I mean reporting. Great Info.) Luv your channel.
You gon learn today lol
Father was only in his 20s and had three kids. That’s sad also. This factor Terrence’s life that’s why he acts like he does he had no good role model. His mother must’ve been very, very young. Wow I guess her she was 19 and he was 21. They’re still both babies.
Who else fell asleep 😴 watching this ? 😂
story time. I AM SORRY BUT THIS WAS TOO LONG AN BORING !! 🥱🥱
😂😂🤣🤣...the way you pronounce the word children & inexcusable is so hilarious😂...but your video is still informative and entertaining in a humorous way😂🤣😭...when you said inscusable instead of inexcusable I was lmao😂😂🤣🤣😭😭😭 sooooo funny
I can remember a lot of things at 2. Your memory, generally, is as old as your vocabulary.
Yes me too and I am 45 ,even my parents doubt me when I say that..
Me too. I have a picture of me and my grandpa when I was 2 and I remember taking it but they don't believe me
My memories start at 3. I remember all kinds of details.
I pray that Terrance finds peace and healing in Jesus Christ amen amen 🙏🏽 Also seems quite intelligent. Thanks for the show.
True facts when something tragic happens in your childhood life you remember it just like it happened today.. I had a tragedy happened in my life in front of me when I was about 4 years old.. I remember what happened right down to the science of it all True facts when I became an adult I had to find out what happened and I did....
His math theory actually makes sense to me! 🤷🏿♀️
Terrance should make a....MOVIE!!!😳 Outta ALLLLLL This!😳😳😳
This is a deep scar for him...why would he want to profit from deep pain in his family. Everyone isn't interested in that. Lots of entertainers have stories like this including LL Cool J and I respect them for not wanting to make movies from family pain ...all for profit. That's sick!
@@lisacox3750 unfortunately, this is a REAL LIFE STORY that happens too often. Terrance Howard has been a famous actor for a LONG TIME. Why bring this up now ? Next year is going to be a time to learn how to FAST and PRAY !!!!!!
@@lisacox3750 I agree
@@lisacox3750 Pardon me...but he's told the story himself....why not let it be turned into a movie or book ect... and..
DONATE!!! the...Proceeds!...to Help Other's!.....🙏
It Could Also....HELP....other's who might find themselves in those type of positions.😪
He will I’m sure...
Here is the truth get your facts straight.................................... Tyrone was invited to appear on the program with Terrence but refused. Shortly after Terrence's account of the incident, Tyrone gave an interview to the Cleveland newspaper, The Plain Dealer, in which he claims that his son misrepresented his story and maintained that the altercation was not racially motivated.
It wasn't nothing racial that went down. It was two men standing there, both of us acting like damn fools . . . instead of one of us taking the man's role and walking away.[2][4]
According to Howard in his interview, after standing in the long line for about 30 minutes, he told his pregnant wife to take Terrence and find a place to sit down. Approximately 45 minutes later, Howard and his sons were close to the front of the line. Howard called for his wife and youngest son to join him in the line. Other people waiting in the line, including Fitzpatrick, did not realize that the woman entering the line was Howard's wife and accused him of letting her cut in. Howard cursed at Fitzpatrick and yelled "If you have anything to say to my wife, say it to me!" Fitzpatrick said "That's a cheap trick, buddy!" and at that point grabbed Howard and pinned him against the wall. After Fitzpatrick fell to the floor from the stabbing, Howard knelt down and tried to put pressure on Fitzpatrick's wounds to stop the bleeding. Some witnesses advised him to flee and he did so in fear. In the interview, Howard expressed remorse for initiating the altercation which led to Fitzpatrick's slaying.
Tyrone Howard said of his son's appearance on Oprah:
Oprah wanted a sob story, he was there with a sob story. Terrence needed publicity, and I became the meat. I was the feast that day.[2][4]
After Tyrone Howard's revelation, Terrence's account of the events was removed from the Oprah website and replaced with a different part of his interview.[6]
Fitzpatrick family's version
New York Times...
Same paper Trump took that ad out asking for the death penalty for those young boys wrongly accused of rape in Central park.
Yeah.
In his mind he was definitely defending his family in front of his beloved
I bet money it’s more to the story
Some people can remember things that young. All I have to do is mention to my parents, grandparents, uncles, aunts, and other elderly family members things and events I remember in full details and they will tell me how old I was at that time. Thusly, I can remember as far back as one year old.
The New York Times acted as judge and jury, and I wonder if this article was after his sentence.
its still a trash outlet
@@morenitomoreno1282 ???!
@@kaamya921 they're consistently on the side of the rich and powerful , on the side of the CIA, on the side of corporations, on the side of the right wing government of Israel... if it not obvious to you now maybe 10, 20 years from now you're gonna get it
That is why Terrance Howard made the racial incident and encounters with the police look so real in the movie, Pride.
Look like the cop holding him has a black eye
His wife beat him
I came across this video and decided to play it as I cooked. I am stuck in to this story. You are a great storyteller. You voice is smooth and you kept me wanting to know more. Subscribed and liked. Looking forward to more stories.
Good story.....great research... cant wait for part 2!!!! Keep up the great work
This story explains a lot about Terrance personality.
I remember Terrence Howard being on the View some years back. He told this story but it's different from the newspaper article. Something was said to his father about his mother and Terrence Howard's dad flipped out.
Why are people upset about her doing a video on Terrence Howard father...the real question is "Why did you click on it and listen?"...for me it's because it's interesting to hear about celebrities have had real life experiences...I will do some research on Terri ology (may be spelled incorrectly)
He probably didn't kill the guy, just had a fight with him