Why I Use A STIHL KMA 130 R KombiSystem with AR 1000 36-volt Backpack Battery For My Home
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- You can find the STIHL KMA 130 R KombiSystem and AR 1000 36-volt Backpack Battery at your local dealer.
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The KMA 130 R battery-powered KombiMotor can power up to 13 separate tools from the STIHL lineup. The STIHL KMA 130 R uses the AP Series of STIHL Battery Products that are 36-volt. With this tool, you can trim, prune, edge, clean, cultivate, and more with optional attachments. The attachments are the same ones used in the gas models. The external battery source shifts the battery weight to the user’s back or hips, ensuring a lightweight, comfortable and balanced position, regardless of the attachment being used. The STIHL KMA 130 R is quiet and can be used during extended hours, increasing income potential for those who make their living in the outdoors. The STIHL KMA 130 R has a commercial-grade brushless motor for performance and durability. - Навчання та стиль
I have the combi and weed eater and love it. I use the 300 battery and the stihl battey backpack designed for it to keep the weight down. I have 27 yards in Florida that I do and they have been one of the best purchases. I also have the larger chainsaw and it also takes the 300 battery. I do not regret the purchase at all!
You get what you pay for!
Great video man! I just sold all my gas powered Stihl yard equipment, except the backpack blower and chainsaw. Bought the KombiSystem with nearly all the attachments and 2xAP300 batteries. I am extremely happy with it. The pruning saw is freaking so awesome!
I have the craftsman v60 for string and lawnmower and blower. Honestly the only reason i have them is I got all three for under 500 bucks on clearances. They work for my city lot. I have looked at Makita as a lot of there stuff is made in Japan, not all, but some. They have power head and backpack too. And a lot of reviewers really like them and keep going back.
I traded my gas mower in for a free Neuton CE6.4 Lawn Mower back in 2013 when the Air Quality Management District was doing a free trade-in program here in Southern California. I've been using it weekly ever since and the mower works great. The 36V Duracell CE6 battery is a little smaller than a car battery and has plenty of power. A couple of years ago it started to lose power so I looked into a replacement. Neuton wanted about $250 for a new battery so I opened the battery case and found it contained 3 Kung Long WP10-12SE 12V 10Ah batteries wired in series (so I'm not really sure it's a Duracell battery). After testing each battery, I found one was not holding a charge so I replaced it with a Power Sonic PS-12100 H battery for about $40. It's been working great again ever since. As long as you take car of your equipment, it can last a long time.
I've had the Kombi system for the last 10-12 years and love it. At some point I will need an electric head because of the direction things are going. I've got the different attachments that I need. Great system, gas or electric. Great review.
I'm really tempted to get into the Stihl lineup but the steep entry price makes me back away. I think it is a fair price where it is considered commercial grade but just for my own personal use I think not. I have the EGO trimmer and it's better than any gas trimmer I have used. Not better than Stihl but it works awesome for me. Thanks for your honest review!!
Kinda cool that you can use your Kombi attachments for it, you can run the battery and if it dies and you still got work to do just swap the power head back to the kombi engine and your good to go.
After 2 hours of running it, this dude is done!
Best suggestions for attachments with one of these elecric Kombis? I'm thinking of getting one of these sometime for myself along with an electric chainsaw that uses the same backpack battery.
I switched from the EGO trimmer (5800 rpms) to the power head (7000 rpms). The extra speed made a huge difference, but still not comparable to a serious gas unit. I was thinking about switching back to gas, but now that Stihl and Husqvarna have started offering battery trimmers in the 8000-8500 range, I am hesitant.
I am happy with the Stihl stuff. That does not mean everyone will be.
what are you cutting that the ego power head cant cut..?
@@EnigmaticPeanut Salut René, the PH can cut everything I need. Problem is the number of swings it takes to get the finish I want (small cutting swath and low tip speed play an important role).
So I have the old style 2002 so its 20 yrs old. When did the 1st battery power unit come out? I liked our old unit. Just the motor got left out but have all the attachments
I do like that this 130 R battery kombisystem has 3 speeds very nice option over other brands @WorkshopAddict
Have you used the RG-KM Reciprocator attachment?
Would you consider doing a video on the RG-KM Reciprocator Attachment?
My dad started using it for landscaping he requires two throughout the day
How heavy does the battery pack feel? and how do you think it compares to the Milwaukee battery equipment
Good Job !!
I have the gas powered Stihl Kombisystem and The Km 131 R they are amazing stihl is stepping up with the battery powered system 👏 Brian @WorkshopAddict
Does it spin clockwise or counter clockwise?
Nice video. I'm with you on not buying chinese and have looked at the Stihl stuff but not been convinced about the backpack battery. I only have 1 acre so I'm not sure I need pro level stuff, but I'm in to support manufacturing in respectful nations.
The backpack battery for one acre is over-kill. I use this at home and on our 20 acre parcel.
Interesting to see what you use and like. I think that for many of us we like a single battery system for a mower, blower and string trimmer. Are you using a Stihl mower and blower? I may be able to justify a few thousand dollars for a really good system, but I would want it to meet all my yard work needs. If I had to use a patchwork of different brands and batteries that isn’t appealing.
I use a Stihl blower, on this battery. I have a robot mower and a few different gas and diesel mowers. with our home and 20 acre property, I need something that has a good runtime and will last. To much for a push mower.
I’ve used still weedeaters for years and blowers gas powered really curious about the battery power though they make really good stuff I was just wondering how long do the batteries last in the backpack unit
I charge them about once a month, but my use is not commercial. It would easily last with 8 hours of constant use.
Thanks for sharing this video. I'm curious as to how much run time you get from that battery pack? Stihl's website says to expect 100/63/50 minutes with a strimmer head, do these numbers match your results? I am considering this unit for use around our farm, I am concerned about run time and the added costs for the charger, battery, battery pack vs just getting a gas version.
It takes me 35 to 45 minutes to trim my lawn and I charge the large battery pack every 5th time. I seem to get hours of runtime from it.
Husqvarna (sweden) has the same identical system (at least here in EU) and the quality is the same; so, it's not just Stihl. I sometimes have a feeling that the two imitate each other in many products.
Hey brian do they have smaller regular batteries that you can put in the back of the stihl 130 R like 36 volt individual battery pack like the Milwaukee style batteries? like say you have a small patch to do and don't want to use the backpack or does it only run off the backpack and cord can you pop a individual battery pack and make it completely cordless for small jobs? @WorkshopAddict
Not the AP series. They have a small battery that clips to your belt. They do make dedicated tools that take a battery like normal tools. Just not a kombi motor
@@WorkshopAddict okay appreciate the information not a bad battery option for me since I already have all the attachments for my 131 r gas kombisystem so getting the 130 R power head and a Backpack battery or even the pocket clip battery wouldn't be to bad
Is the cord annoying, I run a commercial mowing business and ready to jump into these but worried the cord will drive me nuts.
Hi Mate great video and the yoold look amazing but how long does it take to full charge the battery and battery back from zero .
Cheers Chris UK 👍
About 3 hours
Why not just add a corded option? The plug appears proprietary yet a standard two or three prong would make this more versatile.
I agree to buy Stihl. I went thru a half dozen knockoff weedeaters and chain saws before finding my local Stihl dealer. My wife is also German, and yes the Germans make everything precision, perfect, and pretty! I comment again to say I am saving up for the Stihl battery kombi, all the stuff priced out to around $1500 August 2021 in my Texas store. But, those lil pipi cans of Truefuel cost $20, so that adds up very fast over the life of the tool, compared to coal burning electricity.
I think the stihl backpack battery system is a huge advantage over like the Milwaukee brian @WorkshopAddict
Gave you used the hedge trimmer attachment? How do you find the battery life?
I do not have the hedge trimmer attachment. Battery life is amazing. I charge it after about 15 hours worth of use. Sometimes once every two months.
@@WorkshopAddict
Perfect thank you. I read a battery time sheet on stihl.com and with the AR 3000 it had a 90 min time. Didn't make sense to me.
There's no question that Stihl makes decent quality stuff and I think the external battery system is a great solution for some landscapers or commercial lawn care folks but.... for the average and not so average home owner it is absolutely insane. $1300+ for a string trimmer, battery and charger is just completely over the top. The problem is most other brand name tools have made leaps and bounds in quality, power and battery run time for a fraction of the Stihl price. Seriously. Milwaukee and Dewalt for example make battery powered OPE that exceed the needs of most home owners for about 1/3rd the price of the Stihl setup. And... when you aren't trimming grass you can use the batteries on your drill, saw, impact or any other battery powered tool. And by the time those batteries go bad those companies will have a new battery available that will be twice the capacity of the one you have for around $150. Again, nice unit but way way out of the budget of the majority of home owners. Even most who CAN afford it will probably chose a much less expensive solution.
Were you not telling me you would not buy a cheap Chinese flashlight, but you will buy a cheap Chinese string trimmer? 😁
@@WorkshopAddict Yup, that was me. :-) I was more PO'd at O-light for always advertising these big "flash sales" and then their website crashes during it and you can't order anything (happened twice now). So I could dismiss the Chinese made thing but I will no longer be their monkey. :-) I like to buy USA when I can but currently we still live in a world where everything from rubber dog turds to microwave ovens comes from China. So buying USA severely limits your product selections in most case. I currently have a Milwaukee M18 Quik-Lok system and Black and Decker 40V string trimmer and I would imagine they are both made it China. I've only had the Milwaukee about a year but have had the B&D 5 years and it is still going strong on the ORIGINAL battery. :-)
I understand completely. It is hard to watch people (not you) flip back and forth on china sucks to well, it is less expensive and.... I will continue to review stuff from China, and I will keep reading the shitty comments people leave me. But I never want someone to tell me that I do not personally go out of my way to buy something quality and not made in China.
Is possible to buy the trimmer with the "STIHL 36V Lithium-ion Battery AP 300" instead of buying the whole bag pack?
Yes Stihl makes a pouch that a regular AP Battery goes into and the pouch has a cord that goes into the KMA 130
Pouch goes on the side of waist.
"Why I STIHL use a KMA 130 R..."
Fixed it for ya
...see how you stringed that pun together
Das ist lustig
@@WorkshopAddict its good thing stihl has parts for them wich in box store is cheap junk that have to throw away thats why im allways stick with stihl
Ego has essentially the same stuff. I would be interested to see you put yours against the ego backpack battery multi head system and show why you think yours is better than that one and why. Remember to not be to bias lol
So you are wanting me to take a company from China who copied this and put the copy up against the original. I would absolutely love to do that and be completely unbias as normal. There is zero chance I will give that Chinese company any of my money to do so.
Would need to include a tear down to expose the real differences. Eco (China) stuff may perform well out of the box but after years of use, I think Stihl would out perform.
@@WorkshopAddict sounds like you get fairly worked up over this Chinese vs American thing so I won't go to far with it but I do feel like if your going to make claims that this is better that you need to actually test them apples to apples.
@@WorkshopAddict isn't chevon American based? Also did who really copy the idea? I thought they were the first to come up with theirs? I'm confused on the time line
@@jordancornwell4548 I have used a ton of ego tools and none compare. I am not worked up, just telling the truth.
Makita has now a backpack battery storing unit have you seen any of that or have you even heard about it and what's your opinion on the Makita system😷🍻🍺
We have used it at events. It is okay. About 60 percent of the power of this model.
The thing that is unique about the Makita backpack system is that inside the backpack is (4) standard 18V LXT batteries. So you're not really buying a unique battery. You can use your existing Makita tool batteries.
That's unique, but if I am wearing a backpack, I want power.
9:30 I spit out my coffee! At 90F I am squirting sweat out of every pore, so funny that your back may sweat a bit with backpack, mine would be flowing like Niagra Falls 😂
@WorkshopAddict or anyone else who knows, what are the dimensions of Stihl KMA 130 R ? I'm a Stihl fan myself because their products work well for me. TIA
What dimensions do you want to know?
WorkshopAddict Mostly length of the entire unit. Width and height would be interesting too, if that's possible. Thanks
Replacement battery cost has been whats keeps me from switching. Just seams to have a high cost of ownership
all battery systems are that way. it is a pay to play game right now that is not really worth it if you have the slightest bit of mechanical sense. A Stihl gas KombiSystem will last most people a lifetime.
Agreed. Way way way overpriced. Could buy a KM131r and it’ll last a homeowner 15+ years with basic maintenance
@Michael Holly I fully agree. If I was not working with battery technology I would not pay for this. But these types of things help me in learning for other reviews. Buy an ICE model and take care of it.
I really liked my KM130r and sold it this year in favor of battery stuff. It was about 8 years old, had no problem selling with the trimmer, blower, edger. I just get tired of mixing 2 cycle for it, my blower is battery so I went battery for the trimmer too, works out well for my uses. I love stihl products and would love this unit if I could justify the cost. It wasn’t cheap for the gas model when I bought that.
How much do you spend on fuel a year ?
You can tell by the shiny color this equipment is brand new with about 2 hours on it. A day with me and that thing would be GREEN GREEN.
LOL. That is funny. You cut grass with the wrong end?
Looks like you could use a taller / adjustable "D" handle for this unit so you're not-so bent over.
Always. Being 6'4"... seems to be the norm. This is 8" longer than the Toro and 3" longer than the EGO models
@@WorkshopAddict have you ever considered one of those Darwin's Grip handles for string trimmers? A lot of commercial mower guys swear by them.
No, I guess I just got used to this being the norm.
I've been using this system for over a year and love it but the motor has started giving me trouble (cutting out/losing power) and can't get anyone to look at it. This is the only draw back i think. Anyone can fix the petrol one but this one needs a diagnostic equipment.
Your Stihl retailer cannot fix it?
@@WorkshopAddict the guy I bought it from went out of business. Most other dealers only seem to sell them but don't have the equipment to fix or service. The main supplier isn't that helpful 😂 i do really like the system though 😂 It' allows me to start earlier with less complaints.
Seems they would ship it to someone who could repair it.
@@WorkshopAddictam trying to get a guy who specialises in battery tools. It's the only drawback.
Seems hard on your back if you have to bend down all the time.
Not at all. It's very light.
Nothing against battery but I like the power of gas
My use would be commercial. Can this cut real weeds? Lol. I'm thinking about trying it.
As long as you choose the higher end model, it can and will cut very similar to the gas models. It is a bit slower in RPM, but still does a good job. It is not equal to a high end gas model.
@WorkshopAddict thanks for the response. I'm in the Sierras, and the weeds are large. Lol.
@Sonora Junk Removal so see if you can get a brush cutting head for the battery unit or stick with what works. The cost of the battery pack is huge and it has a life of 5 years max.
@WorkshopAddict I am going to start doing landscape maintenance. Maybe I'll look into it for that.
Great review as always....stihl is the best ope and of course chainsaws. It’s like buying MAC, SnapOn, or Wright tools, expensive but they have the best quality, USA made and outperform everyone else. I do have ego for my daughters to use, just won’t let them use the expensive tools. Support American companies, support Americans.👍🇺🇸..and stop rioting, what’s wrong with people...
Right on
It's a nice system but I don't think it's for a typical suburban homeowner. If you have 1/2 an acre to an acre in the suburbs I'd find it hard to justify spending that much. Not that the system isn't high quality but you can buy a great ego, Echo, Dewalt system for much less. I have the Echo 58V line, trimmer, hedge trimmer, chainsaw, charger and 2x4 amp hour batteries. I bought pieces open box, returns, refurbished and spent 350. It's used on a 1/2 acre in the suburbs and it's awesome, it's the first generation trimmer and the rear is very heavy but it works very well. I don't like the lag but nothing I can do about that. The hedge trimmer is a weak point, it's just heavy and unless you have tons of shrubs or large ones it's overkill and by the time I'm done using it my back is sore. The chainsaw is the best. I also have a Stihl 009L, Stihl Super Farm Boss, Echo CS2450, and an Echo PPT-2400. The battery operated Echo is now my go to saw. Granted if I had 20 acres it would be a different story. I still have Echo powered trimmers, blowers, cultivators, etc that are 20+ years old and all run great. I've done carbs and such maintenance, and now since I hardly use them I only put trufuel in them.
Wether it's made in China or not isn't important to me. I've spent three years there, launched the Ford Edge out of Hangzhou and been to hundreds of suppliers, you can get plenty of good equipment that is made in China but that isn't going to be from harbor freight, ebay, or amazon.
I haven't bought a Stihl powered tool in 20 years, all my old stuff works great, only stihl piece of power equipment that was awful was a trimmer a Stihl rep convened me to buy because it was 30% cheaper then the comparable echo. I still regret buying it, the echo's are over 20 years and going strong, that Stihl lasted less then 5 with minimal use since it was only a backup.
I'm all about buying quality, buy once and have it for 20 years, I have a Scag as my mower, but will have to pass on the Stihl unit it's overkill to the extreme for my use case.
i use the ego power head and backpack. i love it.
sthil is probably better quality, but the chinese tools are doing the job for a great price, so far (i had them for 3 years).
the double safety looks very annoying..
you are saying that china is stealing the tech, but they have been doing these before the occident, i think its the other way around. we are copying them.
Don’t be knockin China stuff! LOL
If I like a China product, people come at me. If I knock one for stealing a design, people come at me. LOL...
WorkshopAddict yeah I’ve often thought it has to be difficult sometimes to be a UA-camr. 9 out of 10 times you’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
I have a Cramer (rebranded greenworks) 82v trimmer, its ment to be pro but a little over a year old and the bearing are going after domestic use. They use cheap bearings! You just cant trust their quality control.
@@WorkshopAddict I agree with your attitude to this. It's not always buy cheap buy twice, but it is horses for courses!