I am 63, when I watch this video, I see a very deep message from A MAN who is not speaking from his own experience or knowledge BUT words coming from Capital Power of The Almighty.
The same way nurses clean and bath you when you get sick in hospital is the same way you need care when you get old😂😂😂😂 everyone will eventually get old and imagine when you get old and there is no one to take care of you😂 I mean he should think about that - but his point is you can't do it for your granny or sick mum but you can do it for other people - I mean care work is a profession and people have rights to choose what they want🎉
People of Zimbabwe..,stop being emotional and listen to the apostle with understanding..he is not condoning bad governance in Zimbabwe but he is saying ,let us try and improve our lives with dignity, don't do these care jobs for the rest of your life..that's all he is saying, because there's no dignity..I think everyone can see the disturbing video that is appearing there..no one should be defensive and proud after that..these are our sisters and mothers who are going through that day in and day out
L am a Gardener and my wife is working as domestic worker but we build a home for my children. L educated 2 of my children with the same Garden salary. This Pastor is offside
You are wrong, you are not a tail but a head, don't be used like that,a man of integrity will not accept everything that comes to your way no, you need to refuse other things
Nhai iwe unofunga kuti vanhu vese vari kunze uku vakaenda nekuda here, iwewe kana une mari yekutanga farming doesn't mean everyone has.How many families in Zimbabwe are relying on people in diaspora vakuita care work .
Haaa chokwadi chagara chinorwadza, asi Ishe vakakuitira nyasha, unoita sober with this message. In less than 2 years, I will be somewhere. Kupedzera energy yose kune imwe nyika, think about how for the last 20 years if I had invested my energy in my own land, I would be better off both in finance, spiritually and physically. Thank you Holy Spirit for speaking to us to be sober people. If you are a Prince in the Kingdom of the King, you will take this advice seriously.
Apostle venyu was speaking from a point of privilege and not everyone is privileged, some people need to work kucare kwacho to escape poverty, vosvika ikoko and they start supporting vanhu varikumba thus stunting their progress.
People re so sad that they can't even see the point Pastor is teaching on this I'm in SA as a maid truely speaking im tired I'm glad we have a man of God who cares,Siyabonga.
So you want him to die in Zimbabwe to please your futile ego. The only Preacher who criticized the government publicly. Survived two accident, lost his wife had 5 fractures in the leg. Still you want him to stay in Zimbabwe
Please my brother tell apostle Chivenga kuti Zimbabweans are in this situation because of his brother VP Chiwenga and ED Mnangagwa. It's not a desire for all these Zimbos to come and do these kind of jobs. While our country has been completely destroyed by his brother and ED, the diasporians in countries like South Africa, UK, USA, Australia etc have been propping up Zimbabwe with their remittances. I can certainly tell you that about 60 to 70% of people working in the diaspora are in these type jobs. People have to what have to do to leave an honest existence. Again we have not neglected our elderly parents by coming here and care and social work. We are here because we actually love and care for our parents and families.
Empty words, Empty words. Clouds they are but without water said the bible . Sir Chiwenga with all due respect you are not a pastor you are just a social orator! Jude 1:12
@@adrianmairosihe was speaking to his congrats,not outsiders like you, listen to elders of your church not to J RM, you are not part of it please, your anger is misplaced
Wangu you might try to spin it around but pastor wako akarasika apa, he attacked the profession not knowing kuti in the western world its an industry on it own. People in care homes are being looked by their own money or assisted by government meaning thats many families thrive aka mukadzi wako wont be home looking after mbuya or mai vako, she working too for the family. And when you get old kahuna zvekunetsa kids kuti ndichengetei becoz mapension etc e during his/her days are doing the job. I feel sorry for people who responded to your pastor becoz they lowered or vane lower intelligents like pastor. l grown up in the 90s and council public toilet cleaners and gabage collectors (madoda mabin) and security guards (mahombo) were looked down upon but guess what all those 3 are part of system that makes society and government funciton. people feed and raise families from that. Care industry has been there before even the massive immigration ye 4 years ago.
Thanks for the vid, @ JCTV. I am not home but abroad kwandiri kukiyakiya hangu as an engineer but I am pained. Everyday I think about my country's situation. Zvichanaka hazvo. Continue uplifting me with these kind of videos. One day hopefully and if alive, I shall come back and use those small skills to build home afresh. I hope to meet you
Apostole your assertion that Germans dont leave their country for other nations is not true. I was taught a modules in Metallurgy by a German Professer in Canada and there are more than 2 million Germans in Canada. We celebrate German Heritage on Octoberfesr
Haaa Zimbabwe muchiri kure shuwa, this is sad. Elderly people should be taken care off. Hapana kana trauma dzoro renyu vaChiwenga. Ko vanouya vakadzi vavno netsaona vanoenda kudenga here
Tsvee kutaura zvevanhu vari kuita ma armed robberies,theft,prostitution, rapists,murderers,extortion,land barons,domestic violence,abusing drugs. Wakuti takarasima nevanhu vari kuzvishandira havo. Let people exercise their free will as long as they're not hurting anyone. There were servants and slaves during Jesus's ministry yet he never insulted them. Rather his parables were about good work ethics and being faithful to your masters. To the masters he encouraged them to pay their servants fair wages and treat them with respect. Regai vari kushandira mhuri dzavo vashande murunyararo,imi vema business moita zvema business enyu.
Apa Apostole Chiwenga ndinobvumirana nemi. Ndagara mu England for 34 years. Pandakauya kuno in 1990 most Zimbabweans tanga tiri ma qualified nurses. Then paka zouya ma thousands in the 2000s vachida asylum, ndopandakaona vanhu vaishanda muna chicken factories, even cleaning jobs, ma Zimbabweans . Why? Majority did not have the basic 5 O levels. 😢
I came in 1999 and worked briefly kuma industries and in care homes whilst studying. I think we need to understand that people may do any job whilst settling in their new environment & also acquiring some qualifications. I only did rese rese for 2 yrs and now running my own business in the UK. Let us be well informed.
I came in 1999 and worked briefly kuma industries and in care homes whilst studying. I think we need to understand that people may do any job whilst settling in their new environment & also acquiring some qualifications. I only did rese rese for 2 yrs and now running my own business in the UK. Let us be well informed.
I support Apostole Chiwenga 200% .....There are 3 types of people on this earth...those who WIN, those who LOOSE and those who SING the Blues....So according to everyone's comments here we will know where u belong among the 3. MUSAVHUNDUTSWE NE MADATAWINDI APOSTOLE. That why God created mhuka dzinotsengwa nedzimwe mhuka ....same as humans.
There is no verse in the bible that forbids care workers from working.This message is not biblical Chiwenga deos not give solutions people need jobs he should give people solutions he should tell the people which jobs they must do if care work is not suitable.
Handinei naChiwenga haana hake musoro too much asi apa panewo chokwadi remember masocial, political and other issues arimo mubible zvii zviri mubible zvaanofanira kuita focus on...Zuva ane kakakurasika hake though ane tuchokwadi..
You are 100% right Pastor....we are the children of God and God created us to have dominion over all things he created with his hands....and to have dominion is the only way you can enjoy in his Kingdom.....which is the life and all things he created for his people on this earth....so in my opinion you have to know that you are a child of God and believe and tell your self that I`m an Over comer. Pastor you are right......THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
@@LawrenceZinyurugwi Iwe, you say it when its not your truth being talked about. If all who give offering in the church explain how that maoney has been earned and where, baba you will not accept about half of it if we use this sermon as a blue print!
@@recallchannel3258 then he should have restricted the video to belivers only and npt made it public. Circumstances have forced these care workers to be in that job, and some are even members of chivenga's church
I am also one of them who is useless. I am an engineer abroad but it pains me to see my people suffer like that. I hope that one day if alive, God will use me to re-build my country from scratch 🥺
When she said care work is just an entry level, for me it was done. The rest of the narration by the presenter becomes just PR work to cover up for the pastor. One has to start somewhere. Zuva is dead right
I didn't realise Apostle Chiwenga could be so vain and foolish. Is he suggesting there should be no one digging graves, cleaning toilets, tending the sick in Mpilo, Parirenyatwa etc, because some of the beneficiaries of that service could be , or have been where's, murderers, thieves, corrupt? That money that you accept in your church , do you know its origin? Of course everyone aspires to develop to a higher level of personal development.
Umm vasadaro those people are not doing it by choice and the same time congregants vacho vana vavo varikuvachegeta cause of that money now your pastor is talking nonsense he needs to have some respect in other people’s life , of course u are trying to defend him but akarasika
You can't say that with the situation in Zimbabwe where even graduates don't have jobs. You must create jobs in Zimbabwe for people to work. It's not only Zimbabweans in caregiving. People all over the world are going all over the world to do care work
Kkkk zvemari siyanai nazvo dzamuri kubvisa idzodzo dzangochinjwa mazita but still muri kungobvisa mari no church or institution functions without funds learnt or perish
Vanhu vaari kuparidzira vanzwa nekushaya ma COS varikutoda kutosiya mabasa ehu manager nema company cars asiri kuunza chouviri kumhuri. Nyaya ndeye nyika yakashata kusvika pakuti general manager anotadza kuendesa vana ku boarding school kusvika pakutengesa stand yake oenda hake kunokanya dhodho. Instead of attacking zanu pf who caused this situation the arrogant pastor is busy attacking victims of zanu pf’s misrule
For me this message is strong also he talks in parable zvekuti ukasanyatsoidzwisisa you thought ari kutuka maCare worker l think no but he is just give a word of advice kuti tisarare nezamu mumukanwa, yes it doesn't mean kuti anokuraya ari kugona hwake,unogona kubuda muupenyu ukateerera sometimes thanks man of God, Use it as a Bridge l think ndoMsg hombe iripo.
How many marriages are breaking up in Zimbabwe Make a good research the same statements that we have equal rights are also heard in Zim and think of the high rate of infedility in men and women in Zimbabwe and worse still even in churches and how do you justify that
Most people who are commenting supporting JCTV and Chiwenga are in Zimbabwe. We have sent our families to school, we have done a lot to make our families live better lives. If I had worked for two years was not going to make my brother or sister go through Uni, how.? Problem, your teachings lack knowledge. At least you were teaching people who are not in that environment. Chiwenga needs to research more
The one who understands the road he walks in is the walker himself! If all was well in Zim noone could be voing abroad! We tried to invest in Zim but to no avail,and you compare Zim and Germany!
The Apostle should revise his script. Even Jesus preached submission and work loyalt. Servants to love their employees. Its elementary theology to fail to grasp important issues. Basic theory about business is too dangerous even living under the kingdom of God. Having investments in properties is the best thing that will set you apart. One thing you should remember is that your members do not live in isolation but are part of broader community. All diaspora are key for now and future development of a country.
Zuva is right, carework is just to pave way but obviously people who lack exposure will not understand. We’ve been in the UK for yrs and started from the bottom but most if us are doing very well & now running the care companies, some are managers and directors in big companies. Do not laugh at these people who are doing these jobs because in a few years you’ll be begging them to employ your kids. Ko ivo Pastor vanoshanda kupi? Handiti church relies in funds from congregation.
After all what is nursing??We do same care work in hospital so kindly give us the difference between these jobs everywhere in this world Tibatsirei Hama dzangu because care work ne nursing kwandiri is same even obstetrics same job rema dodo before a baby is born Munhu wa she tiregerereyi
Hanzi naMuparinga ndiyo panhamo inonzi chema,pabasa inonzi salary etc offering ndiyo makarohwa maths naChiwenga asi ndiyo ine mazita akawanda chete asi ndiyo😂😂😂😂😂😂 kwavo vanoroverwa kuoffering kkkkk
14:23 Munhu wese akarima zvinobuda here😂😂😂 imika lets not generalise things there is nothing about mentality 1. You need money 2. You need the farm 3. Connections 4. Customers The above is before you even start farming and number 1 can be funded by care work money - you do your care work and raise funds then come back😂 I mean😂 lets grow up
Chiwenga must not insult hard working people who are trying hard to earn an honest living.He makes reckless statements on issues that he is not an expert on.He is now an expert on Political,social and economic issues but unfortunately he inadvertently expose his ignorance .
I wonder if Chiwenga know that a registered Nurse is a Carer. The difference is in the pay but same work and of course a nurse dishes out the tablets etc.
If I have ever seen a preacher insult people, Chiwenga is just on a level of his own. I do not condone Zuva Habane for insulting the man but apostle kutuka vamwe zvavo vanotuka. In as much as he may have had a point, but choice of words inombovanetsa zvavo mu apostora. The point is he is not qualified to call out anyone for hurling insults. If he refers to other preachers as makava then I do not know what an insult is. There is always a civilised way to call out preachers on the wrong side of the gospel
It's a decent job and training is given. You have no idea because you have not engaged in this field. It's not only black people who take these jobs. Don't judge people's jobs
Vanhu varikuomberera pastor wacko avo vakamirira minana kubva kune kamuporofita kenyu kenhema ako kuti hupenyu hushanduke,life will never wait for you and mari hainyorwe kuti yauya nemutowo upi
Hakuna basa risina basa, pple are called to carry out different jobs/trades. Different vocations for different reasons, just bcoz kubasa kwako kuno pfekwa sutu nepointed shoe, hazvirevi kuti kuno pfekwa hovhorosi kana magloves hakuna maturo. Without any offense taken, the pastor is way out of context no matter frm wat perspective you look at his utterances.
Titori muno misana yadombuka.Dont listen kuna sisi ava handifungi vane murume .lf she had one aimudzora .stop the rubbish he is right Apostole Chiwenga.
He should stop pitying us. His problem is that of mixing issues. Right now Talent is shifting goal posts. The way he is narrating now is not the same way he said it at first. Besides that, his teaching is full of pulling down syndrome. Who doesn't know that Zimbabwe is upside and everyone is looking for greener pastures. JCTV, tell your amai to preach the word of God without condemning people who have not harmed anyone. ED zimhondi guru amutadza akuti nanga nanga nesu takazvitengera maticket. Noooonse!
JCTV what are you trying to defend… Apostle Hiwenga akanyadzisa he is always criticizing everything… you talk of you starting business and employ slaves aah … JCTV. Uchishandisa ani? Habane Zuva is quite right and right to be angry…
Ko what opportunities has Chiwenga created for people in Zimbabwe, since vakapusa sekuona kwake. What has he done besides creating a church for himself. Yes hakuna tithe but money is being collected, whatever name you give it
Kubvisa mari kubvisa mari.. Chiwenga akatoona kuti akakutii offerings and what what zvisina kunzi you will be blessed munobvisa mari dzenyu nemufaro kkkkk but still mukungobvisa chete, and zvekuti vanhu vaite ma businesses avo zvakangoparidzwa makore akawanda kare kare by many Man of God
What you don't seem to appreciate that it's leadership that's the core here. The genesis of people leaving the country was not jobs, it was persecution by leaders. You are not castigating leadership as vehemently.
Basa rose ibasa tose tinoziva nyika yedu zvairi,,, muparidzi watizwa nerevelation ,,, basa rose ibasa munhu haasi kubira munhu iyi iprovocation from Apostle
Kubirwa kubirwa chero mukati offering monthly what what okusalayo murikubvisa mari Chiwenga is too judgemental and l hate his puppets for laughing at everything he days Amongst those so called congregants hapana here ane hama iri kutomutumira mari achiita care work Let's love another lts how you bring in your point kuti point yako ive valuable Don't support chakashata
Its more than mentality my brother, re read your bible , most of the situations "blacks" are is biblical prophecy coming to pass... However dry bones are coming back to life!! Lets not get upset with each other we found ourselves in these predicament Deuteronomy 28 the whole of it!
According to our economy apostle chiwenga ngatinyarewo angotadza kupa tsanangura at first free offering mari imomo mu church mune vane vana varikusvipirwa mate vevarwere how do they feel zvichishorwa newanoti apostle it's very bad don't defend him at all
I am 63, when I watch this video, I see a very deep message from A MAN who is not speaking from his own experience or knowledge BUT words coming from Capital Power of The Almighty.
The same way nurses clean and bath you when you get sick in hospital is the same way you need care when you get old😂😂😂😂 everyone will eventually get old and imagine when you get old and there is no one to take care of you😂 I mean he should think about that - but his point is you can't do it for your granny or sick mum but you can do it for other people - I mean care work is a profession and people have rights to choose what they want🎉
Continue to do what ever you want,but apostle Chiwenga is right,sons of God almighty should not be used like that
People of Zimbabwe..,stop being emotional and listen to the apostle with understanding..he is not condoning bad governance in Zimbabwe but he is saying ,let us try and improve our lives with dignity, don't do these care jobs for the rest of your life..that's all he is saying, because there's no dignity..I think everyone can see the disturbing video that is appearing there..no one should be defensive and proud after that..these are our sisters and mothers who are going through that day in and day out
Thank you Apostie for opening our mindset with this revelation
L am a Gardener and my wife is working as domestic worker but we build a home for my children. L educated 2 of my children with the same Garden salary. This Pastor is offside
You are wrong, you are not a tail but a head, don't be used like that,a man of integrity will not accept everything that comes to your way no, you need to refuse other things
Nhai iwe unofunga kuti vanhu vese vari kunze uku vakaenda nekuda here, iwewe kana une mari yekutanga farming doesn't mean everyone has.How many families in Zimbabwe are relying on people in diaspora vakuita care work .
@@nelsonnyazika2288 nhai zvenyu
Chiwenga, mkuru apa mapedza ma sports! Makes sense. True.
Haaa chokwadi chagara chinorwadza, asi Ishe vakakuitira nyasha, unoita sober with this message. In less than 2 years, I will be somewhere. Kupedzera energy yose kune imwe nyika, think about how for the last 20 years if I had invested my energy in my own land, I would be better off both in finance, spiritually and physically. Thank you Holy Spirit for speaking to us to be sober people. If you are a Prince in the Kingdom of the King, you will take this advice seriously.
am beginning to see that you are ryt Apostle Chiwenga
Zuva jumped the gun she didn't understand the context.
Unopenga iwe
Don't try to justify madness
what did she not understand - I think Chivenga need to go for compassionate counselling and he sometimes is reckless in speech.
Apostle venyu was speaking from a point of privilege and not everyone is privileged, some people need to work kucare kwacho to escape poverty, vosvika ikoko and they start supporting vanhu varikumba thus stunting their progress.
People re so sad that they can't even see the point Pastor is teaching on this I'm in SA as a maid truely speaking im tired I'm glad we have a man of God who cares,Siyabonga.
Am failing to understand this Zuva Habane's emotional outburst. Thank you Apostle Chiwenga for your enlightenment✊✊
Where are you podcasting from Apostle ? Which country has the location of your studio... Let's start there
So you want him to die in Zimbabwe to please your futile ego. The only Preacher who criticized the government publicly. Survived two accident, lost his wife had 5 fractures in the leg. Still you want him to stay in Zimbabwe
JCTV stop boot licking wo
Please my brother tell apostle Chivenga kuti Zimbabweans are in this situation because of his brother VP Chiwenga and ED Mnangagwa. It's not a desire for all these Zimbos to come and do these kind of jobs. While our country has been completely destroyed by his brother and ED, the diasporians in countries like South Africa, UK, USA, Australia etc have been propping up Zimbabwe with their remittances. I can certainly tell you that about 60 to 70% of people working in the diaspora are in these type jobs. People have to what have to do to leave an honest existence. Again we have not neglected our elderly parents by coming here and care and social work. We are here because we actually love and care for our parents and families.
Empty words, Empty words. Clouds they are but without water said the bible . Sir Chiwenga with all due respect you are not a pastor you are just a social orator!
Jude 1:12
@@adrianmairosihe was speaking to his congrats,not outsiders like you, listen to elders of your church not to J RM, you are not part of it please, your anger is misplaced
Thank you Apostle Chiwenga for this eye opener
Wangu you might try to spin it around but pastor wako akarasika apa, he attacked the profession not knowing kuti in the western world its an industry on it own. People in care homes are being looked by their own money or assisted by government meaning thats many families thrive aka mukadzi wako wont be home looking after mbuya or mai vako, she working too for the family. And when you get old kahuna zvekunetsa kids kuti ndichengetei becoz mapension etc e during his/her days are doing the job. I feel sorry for people who responded to your pastor becoz they lowered or vane lower intelligents like pastor. l grown up in the 90s and council public toilet cleaners and gabage collectors (madoda mabin) and security guards (mahombo) were looked down upon but guess what all those 3 are part of system that makes society and government funciton. people feed and raise families from that. Care industry has been there before even the massive immigration ye 4 years ago.
This is message is for princes, those that are for the Kingdom. Not anantombizodwa.
But Apostle ngavarege kuparidza vachituka vanhu nekuti kuenda kwavo kunze haisi sarudzo asi inyaya yenyika yedu nekuti dai utungamiriri hwakanaka pane vaisiya nyika yavo here then ivo zvavakabuda munomu vachienda SouthAfrica vakabudirei
Pakutuka ipapo ndodambudziko rake asi chokwadi pamusha pachooo
Thanks for the vid, @ JCTV. I am not home but abroad kwandiri kukiyakiya hangu as an engineer but I am pained. Everyday I think about my country's situation. Zvichanaka hazvo. Continue uplifting me with these kind of videos. One day hopefully and if alive, I shall come back and use those small skills to build home afresh. I hope to meet you
Hakuna zvakadaro hakuna chichanaka
Definitely I will be there God willing
True hazvo chichanaka hapana kuZim yakato wondengeka kare@@MichaelDzveta-ke5jz
Where are you, Apostle, come back home, let's rebuild our country 😂😂😂
in zim we had a presidential goat scheme for $17million yet we don't have a company that produces tooth pick or even a scooter. what a shame
Apostole your assertion that Germans dont leave their country for other nations is not true. I was taught a modules in Metallurgy by a German Professer in Canada and there are more than 2 million Germans in Canada. We celebrate German Heritage on Octoberfesr
Haaa Zimbabwe muchiri kure shuwa, this is sad. Elderly people should be taken care off. Hapana kana trauma dzoro renyu vaChiwenga. Ko vanouya vakadzi vavno netsaona vanoenda kudenga here
Tsvee kutaura zvevanhu vari kuita ma armed robberies,theft,prostitution, rapists,murderers,extortion,land barons,domestic violence,abusing drugs. Wakuti takarasima nevanhu vari kuzvishandira havo. Let people exercise their free will as long as they're not hurting anyone. There were servants and slaves during Jesus's ministry yet he never insulted them. Rather his parables were about good work ethics and being faithful to your masters. To the masters he encouraged them to pay their servants fair wages and treat them with respect. Regai vari kushandira mhuri dzavo vashande murunyararo,imi vema business moita zvema business enyu.
Zuva anorwara. Chihure chamunetesa akutsvaga pekuzororera.
Apa Apostole Chiwenga ndinobvumirana nemi. Ndagara mu England for 34 years. Pandakauya kuno in 1990 most Zimbabweans tanga tiri ma qualified nurses. Then paka zouya ma thousands in the 2000s vachida asylum, ndopandakaona vanhu vaishanda muna chicken factories, even cleaning jobs, ma Zimbabweans . Why? Majority did not have the basic
5 O levels. 😢
I came in 1999 and worked briefly kuma industries and in care homes whilst studying. I think we need to understand that people may do any job whilst settling in their new environment & also acquiring some qualifications. I only did rese rese for 2 yrs and now running my own business in the UK. Let us be well informed.
I came in 1999 and worked briefly kuma industries and in care homes whilst studying. I think we need to understand that people may do any job whilst settling in their new environment & also acquiring some qualifications. I only did rese rese for 2 yrs and now running my own business in the UK. Let us be well informed.
Oh 😯 okay
I support Apostole Chiwenga 200% .....There are 3 types of people on this earth...those who WIN, those who LOOSE and those who SING the Blues....So according to everyone's comments here we will know where u belong among the 3. MUSAVHUNDUTSWE NE MADATAWINDI APOSTOLE. That why God created mhuka dzinotsengwa nedzimwe mhuka ....same as humans.
There is no verse in the bible that forbids care workers from working.This message is not biblical Chiwenga deos not give solutions people need jobs he should give people solutions he should tell the people which jobs they must do if care work is not suitable.
Chiwenga must focus on preaching the word of God! Zvimwe zvese zvisiri mu bible zvinei naye?
Handinei naChiwenga haana hake musoro too much asi apa panewo chokwadi remember masocial, political and other issues arimo mubible zvii zviri mubible zvaanofanira kuita focus on...Zuva ane kakakurasika hake though ane tuchokwadi..
No, he must decide whether to to preach the word of God or be a motivation speaker of comedian like chris rock
Man of God is absolutely correct 🙌
Nothing God about this stupid guy
You are 100% right Pastor....we are the children of God and God created us to have dominion over all things he created with his hands....and to have dominion is the only way you can enjoy in his Kingdom.....which is the life and all things he created for his people on this earth....so in my opinion you have to know that you are a child of God and believe and tell your self that I`m an Over comer. Pastor you are right......THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CHIWENGA WAS OFF LINE - MAY BE HE NEED TO REPACKAGE HIS DELIVERY - THIS ONE WAS OFFENSIVE.
Yeah..the truth is always offensive to those doesn't love it..we need to learn to love the truth, normatter how uncomfortable it is
He was talking about Belivers not every Zimbabwean
@@LawrenceZinyurugwi Iwe, you say it when its not your truth being talked about. If all who give offering in the church explain how that maoney has been earned and where, baba you will not accept about half of it if we use this sermon as a blue print!
@@recallchannel3258 then he should have restricted the video to belivers only and npt made it public. Circumstances have forced these care workers to be in that job, and some are even members of chivenga's church
@@recallchannel3258why cant create your own believers platform. Moisa pamanon believers platforms moti its only for believers 😂😂😂😂
This is excellent, Apostle
He is not insulting anyone guys he is talking sense
Ichokwadi tino fanira kufunga out of box.thank you apostle ne this teaching
Zuva murwere anotuka mafundisi handipinde church yavaChiwenga but zuva aenderera apa
Both hapana ari right Apostle and Zuva vari wrong vose
Haana kunzwisisa has point
Idhioti. You think she was at home achishaya zvekuita then picked a fight with with this guy.
Iwewe naChiwenga ndimi varwere
If this is an attempt at damage control, its pathetic. Unobvotomoka iwe, Chiwenga Talent.
Wise words from the apostle, our people are just useless that's all what I can say...
I am also one of them who is useless. I am an engineer abroad but it pains me to see my people suffer like that. I hope that one day if alive, God will use me to re-build my country from scratch 🥺
The message is directed to believers , if you are not , why worry Zuva...
People should listen to Apostle
When she said care work is just an entry level, for me it was done. The rest of the narration by the presenter becomes just PR work to cover up for the pastor. One has to start somewhere. Zuva is dead right
I didn't realise Apostle Chiwenga could be so vain and foolish.
Is he suggesting there should be no one digging graves, cleaning toilets, tending the sick in Mpilo, Parirenyatwa etc, because some of the beneficiaries of that service could be , or have been where's, murderers, thieves, corrupt?
That money that you accept in your church , do you know its origin?
Of course everyone aspires to develop to a higher level of personal development.
There are people who are still doing care giving here in Zimbabwe. Is it not better to do it where there is more money?
Umm vasadaro those people are not doing it by choice and the same time congregants vacho vana vavo varikuvachegeta cause of that money now your pastor is talking nonsense he needs to have some respect in other people’s life , of course u are trying to defend him but akarasika
Apostle vanongotaura chokwadi chete
You can't say that with the situation in Zimbabwe where even graduates don't have jobs. You must create jobs in Zimbabwe for people to work. It's not only Zimbabweans in caregiving. People all over the world are going all over the world to do care work
Rambai makadzvanya Apostle ❤❤❤ musadzore tsvimbo asvotwa ngaarutse
Kkkk zvemari siyanai nazvo dzamuri kubvisa idzodzo dzangochinjwa mazita but still muri kungobvisa mari no church or institution functions without funds learnt or perish
It's also a mentality to follow Chiwenga
Tikauuya kuChurch kwenyu ikoko nema COS 20K munoruza20K church members imi😂😂😂
Vanhu vaari kuparidzira vanzwa nekushaya ma COS varikutoda kutosiya mabasa ehu manager nema company cars asiri kuunza chouviri kumhuri. Nyaya ndeye nyika yakashata kusvika pakuti general manager anotadza kuendesa vana ku boarding school kusvika pakutengesa stand yake oenda hake kunokanya dhodho. Instead of attacking zanu pf who caused this situation the arrogant pastor is busy attacking victims of zanu pf’s misrule
For me this message is strong also he talks in parable zvekuti ukasanyatsoidzwisisa you thought ari kutuka maCare worker l think no but he is just give a word of advice kuti tisarare nezamu mumukanwa, yes it doesn't mean kuti anokuraya ari kugona hwake,unogona kubuda muupenyu ukateerera sometimes thanks man of God, Use it as a Bridge l think ndoMsg hombe iripo.
How many marriages are breaking up in Zimbabwe Make a good research the same statements that we have equal rights are also heard in Zim and think of the high rate of infedility in men and women in Zimbabwe and worse still even in churches and how do you justify that
Iye anodaro ari mu marriage here
Clearly that's not Apostle Chiwenga speaking, the knowledge is way huge and nothing to do with education listen and watch carefully
Most people who are commenting supporting JCTV and Chiwenga are in Zimbabwe. We have sent our families to school, we have done a lot to make our families live better lives. If I had worked for two years was not going to make my brother or sister go through Uni, how.? Problem, your teachings lack knowledge. At least you were teaching people who are not in that environment. Chiwenga needs to research more
Apostle is speaking to children of his church,not Sun Habane
The one who understands the road he walks in is the walker himself!
If all was well in Zim noone could be voing abroad!
We tried to invest in Zim but to no avail,and you compare Zim and Germany!
The Apostle should revise his script. Even Jesus preached submission and work loyalt. Servants to love their employees.
Its elementary theology to fail to grasp important issues. Basic theory about business is too dangerous even living under the kingdom of God. Having investments in properties is the best thing that will set you apart. One thing you should remember is that your members do not live in isolation but are part of broader community.
All diaspora are key for now and future development of a country.
He was wrong to think that the caregiver jobs are mediocre job
Thanks for explaining Prince, let's kiss the son
Zuva is right, carework is just to pave way but obviously people who lack exposure will not understand. We’ve been in the UK for yrs and started from the bottom but most if us are doing very well & now running the care companies, some are managers and directors in big companies. Do not laugh at these people who are doing these jobs because in a few years you’ll be begging them to employ your kids. Ko ivo Pastor vanoshanda kupi? Handiti church relies in funds from congregation.
After all what is nursing??We do same care work in hospital so kindly give us the difference between these jobs everywhere in this world Tibatsirei Hama dzangu because care work ne nursing kwandiri is same even obstetrics same job rema dodo before a baby is born Munhu wa she tiregerereyi
Aah did you send your grandparents to hospital for caregiver, hospitals is for sick people not ill people even
But kubvisa mari kubvisa wena chero ikasava tithes ,iwawo maoffering imari kwese kubvisa
Hanzi naMuparinga ndiyo panhamo inonzi chema,pabasa inonzi salary etc offering ndiyo makarohwa maths naChiwenga asi ndiyo ine mazita akawanda chete asi ndiyo😂😂😂😂😂😂 kwavo vanoroverwa kuoffering kkkkk
My Apostle is alwez on Point,Top Notch ✌️
Zuva ita steady,urikungovhavhukira chetee
Attention Seeker
Iye Chiwenga hama dzake dzirikutambura and dzirikutoda kuuya kumadodi kwacho . He must shut up and enjoy hand outs from church members
14:23 Munhu wese akarima zvinobuda here😂😂😂 imika lets not generalise things there is nothing about mentality
1. You need money
2. You need the farm
3. Connections
4. Customers
The above is before you even start farming and number 1 can be funded by care work money - you do your care work and raise funds then come back😂 I mean😂 lets grow up
Mvura inoyerera ichiyenda kumateru. Water follows gradient. Mufundisi vatya kuconfranter chakonzera vana kutiza nyika and resorted kunotuka vanhu.
He's always condemning poor Governance yeZanu,
He always take them head on
Its just that our people doesn't love the truth..i agree with apostle 💯 percent..our people needs to work up
Chiwenga must not insult hard working people who are trying hard to earn an honest living.He makes reckless statements on issues that he is not an expert on.He is now an expert on Political,social and economic issues but unfortunately he inadvertently expose his ignorance .
Totally agree with you, he is not an authority to comment on this hapana chavanoziva, he’s
Mapinziro aakaita nyaya chete asi ichokwadi chaakataura
He has explained very well and this was not for you but for the church's congregates
I wonder if Chiwenga know that a registered Nurse is a Carer. The difference is in the pay but same work and of course a nurse dishes out the tablets etc.
If I have ever seen a preacher insult people, Chiwenga is just on a level of his own. I do not condone Zuva Habane for insulting the man but apostle kutuka vamwe zvavo vanotuka. In as much as he may have had a point, but choice of words inombovanetsa zvavo mu apostora. The point is he is not qualified to call out anyone for hurling insults. If he refers to other preachers as makava then I do not know what an insult is. There is always a civilised way to call out preachers on the wrong side of the gospel
It's a decent job and training is given. You have no idea because you have not engaged in this field. It's not only black people who take these jobs. Don't judge people's jobs
8Asi iwo unoti chiiko? “Shoko riri pedyo newe, mumuromo mako uye nomumwoyo mako,” ndiro shoko rokutenda ratinoparidza: 9Kuti kana ukapupura nomuromo wako kuti, “Jesu ndiye Ishe” uye ukatenda mumwoyo mako kuti Mwari akamumutsa kubva kuvakafa, uchaponeswa. 10Nokuti unotenda nomwoyo wako ugoruramisirwa, uye unopupura nomuromo wako ugoponeswa. 11Sezvinorehwa noRugwaro ruchiti: “Ani naani anotenda kwaari haanganyadziswi.”
Apostle Chiwenga was offside, no amount of sanitizing his rants will correct his offside
Thats democracy
@@JCTVAfrica true
Paster is onside. Listen and dont get offended.
Vanhu varikuomberera pastor wacko avo vakamirira minana kubva kune kamuporofita kenyu kenhema ako kuti hupenyu hushanduke,life will never wait for you and mari hainyorwe kuti yauya nemutowo upi
Wait so what did he say wrong
Hakuna basa risina basa, pple are called to carry out different jobs/trades. Different vocations for different reasons, just bcoz kubasa kwako kuno pfekwa sutu nepointed shoe, hazvirevi kuti kuno pfekwa hovhorosi kana magloves hakuna maturo. Without any offense taken, the pastor is way out of context no matter frm wat perspective you look at his utterances.
Titori muno misana yadombuka.Dont listen kuna sisi ava handifungi vane murume .lf she had one aimudzora .stop the rubbish he is right Apostole Chiwenga.
He should stop pitying us. His problem is that of mixing issues. Right now Talent is shifting goal posts. The way he is narrating now is not the same way he said it at first. Besides that, his teaching is full of pulling down syndrome. Who doesn't know that Zimbabwe is upside and everyone is looking for greener pastures. JCTV, tell your amai to preach the word of God without condemning people who have not harmed anyone. ED zimhondi guru amutadza akuti nanga nanga nesu takazvitengera maticket. Noooonse!
If I was to choose between Chiwenga and Zuva, I would choose Chiwenga because haataure zvinyadzi
Manje nyaya haisi pazvinyadzi wakutorasa nyaya iwee
@Stallie-zb7bn handina kumborasika nekuti mwana wese anotaura mubereki wake pazviito,saka ukaona munhu achitaura zvinyadzi anenge asina kurerwa zvakanaka uye mweya uri maari ndewa Satan nekuti mwana waMwari haataure zvinyadzi, simple🤷
JCTV what are you trying to defend… Apostle Hiwenga akanyadzisa he is always criticizing everything… you talk of you starting business and employ slaves aah … JCTV. Uchishandisa ani?
Habane Zuva is quite right and right to be angry…
What is Chiwenga's solution ..
Apostle Chiwenga is genious open your eyes people
Ko what opportunities has Chiwenga created for people in Zimbabwe, since vakapusa sekuona kwake. What has he done besides creating a church for himself. Yes hakuna tithe but money is being collected, whatever name you give it
Kubvisa mari kubvisa mari.. Chiwenga akatoona kuti akakutii offerings and what what zvisina kunzi you will be blessed munobvisa mari dzenyu nemufaro kkkkk but still mukungobvisa chete, and zvekuti vanhu vaite ma businesses avo zvakangoparidzwa makore akawanda kare kare by many Man of God
What you don't seem to appreciate that it's leadership that's the core here. The genesis of people leaving the country was not jobs, it was persecution by leaders. You are not castigating leadership as vehemently.
But he always take them head on
ibvapo iwe futseke inzwa zvawataura kuti haushaye connection ku zanu kureva kuti pasina connection kumama muzimbabwe tisiyei tibvise matuzvi echembere tichibhadharwa zvedu ...... akakuudza kuti kune horror kumabasa edu ndiyani imbwa iwe ndiwe utori muracist dzidzisa vari ikoko vaivhure industry vazvishandire ikoko
Basa rose ibasa tose tinoziva nyika yedu zvairi,,, muparidzi watizwa nerevelation ,,, basa rose ibasa munhu haasi kubira munhu iyi iprovocation from Apostle
Iwe nurses working in Ngomahuru and ingutheni hospals arehear in Zim are in error
They are trained,,,,nurse aids people going out there, they are not trained to handle the behaviours in mentally ill people.
Kubirwa kubirwa chero mukati offering monthly what what okusalayo murikubvisa mari
Chiwenga is too judgemental and l hate his puppets for laughing at everything he days Amongst those so called congregants hapana here ane hama iri kutomutumira mari achiita care work
Let's love another lts how you bring in your point kuti point yako ive valuable
Don't support chakashata
Chiwenga unobira zvituta zvinenge zvichikyombera.
Vaunoparidzira vanoita mabasa eyi
What i heard is Baba ava vanotochiva Zuva😳.
I hear the message, but my problem is that apostol you are not here in Zimbabwe, double standard 😂😂
Appostle murivamwari here kana kuti musatanist. Moda kuti vanaveZimbabwe vadii
😂😂
Its more than mentality my brother, re read your bible , most of the situations "blacks" are is biblical prophecy coming to pass...
However dry bones are coming back to life!!
Lets not get upset with each other
we found ourselves in these predicament
Deuteronomy 28 the whole of it!
According to our economy apostle chiwenga ngatinyarewo angotadza kupa tsanangura at first free offering mari imomo mu church mune vane vana varikusvipirwa mate vevarwere how do they feel zvichishorwa newanoti apostle it's very bad don't defend him at all
When you say so-called churchs what do you mean. That is the problem of thinking that you are the only church in this universe.
This is strongest, zuva and any other alike find some other VERY DIFFERENT platform and continue your own stuff at peace
Everything said is true.Ngatidzidze not kungotuka.
Zvakatosiyana to speak about these two very different individuals