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At 20:45 he discusses Herodotus' recounting of a story he heard about Phoenicians circumnavigating Africa (and how Herodotus himself doubted the story's veracity). He fails to mention a crucial detail in the story that, to us, confirms the story is true. Herodotus says the Phoenician explorers sailed south along the east coast of Africa until they turned west to get around what we today would call The Cape of Good Hope. At that point, the Phoenician sailors claimed that the mid-day sun was on their right. Heredotus regarded this as cause to disbelieve the story because, to the European worldview of the time, the sun being on your right when facing west was an impossibility. Of course, nowadays we understand that the Phoenicians had simply sailed into the southern hemisphere, so the mid-day sun appearing on their right when facing west would be perfectly natural and expected. That detail - one that caused Herodotus to doubt the story's truthfulness - is the very thing that proves the Phoenicians did indeed circumnavigate Africa.
Excellent post! I avoided elaborating on this subject as I couldn't triangulate stuff to do with it too well. The fact that the Phoenicians would potentially have a believable capability to do that was the aim of the paragraph. I wonder if Herodotus' Greek roots would have been enough to outwardly doubt Phoenician capabilities, and I also think that by Herodotus' lifetime, there would have been an active canal linking the Nile to the Red Sea, so the ability to circumnavigate Africa wouldn't have necessarily carried the political stigma that it may have once done if you were anti-Punic. Wonderful discussion though! Thanks for the valuable feedback.
WOW, believe it or not I can help add to that. I was in Morocco recently and, according to everything I saw/read/heard, the Phoenicians would kidnap local Berber men and "conscript" them into the navy on there way south. Months or years later, on occasion, they would release them on upon returning. The Berber are well aware of the exploits of the Phoenicians voyages south.
This is very interesting. There would have definitely been a familiarity between the Carthaginians and the Berbers. They would have definitely been the bosses of the Berbers near to Carthage, but they would have had strong links to the Berbers at places such as Mogador too.
Egyptian king Neco (II 609 B.C. - 594 B.C.) sends his Phoenician ships (611 B.C.) on an over two-year voyage around Africa from the Red Sea through Gibraltar then on to Egypt. See pg. 283 - 284 The Histories (Penguin Classics) Herodotus
Phoenicians are a key culture in understanding the development of our modern world. I had a wonderful time with this video this morning. I don't participate in iTunes, so having access to this History of the World podcast series here on UA-cam is very satisfying. Thanks again, Nick.
Bert Jordan I couldn’t agree with you more! Thanks for your time and your undying support and I hope that things are well with you, your family and friends!
Neither the phoenicians, nor the greeks nor the romans, are key to understanding the modern world. The foundations of the modern world were set in Christian Europe, for example, the year we are in, the use of banks, shops closed on Sunday, etc...etc..etc..the whole world was shaped by Christian Europe. There, I helped you, now understand the world.
Carthage still called Carthage in Tunisia because of the strong and amazing history and culture it has. Thank you for making a part of our history clear to others.
@@historyoftheworldpodcast5234 you should come and visit, Carthage is so amazing, also I recommend you to visit the amphitheatre of El Jem it's the second biggest amphitheatre in the world, it exists in a city called El Jem in Tunisia.
@@6_alsw Tous les envahisseurs qui peuplent l’Afrique du nord ne sont là que depuis le 6è-7è siècle de notre ère, suite à l’invasion arabo-musulmane. Les Tunisiens actuels ne connaissent rien des phéniciens , et sont étrangers à tout ce qu’ils ont trouvé en terre Carthaginoise. Ils peuvent prétendre être des phéniciens, sauf qu’ils ignorent complètement et paradoxalement le 1er élément basique de la culture phénicienne: L’ÉCRITURE ET LA LANGUE PHÉNICIENNE . C’est ça la vérité qui efface toute vos prétentions
Dude this is beautifully detailed, a real pleasure to watch... I've only got to watch half of it so far but I'm really loving this episode. Thanks for taking out the time and effort to create it. ^^
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Terrific job as ever Nick. Thank you for putting some visual guidance alongside the podcast. It really does help to illustrate the script! Warmest regards, Chris
History of the World podcast As always it’s a pleasure! I was happy to use video footage in this one and I’ll definitely be doing more in the future. You did an excellent presentation!
@@nukelaloosh4795 Hello Nuke. I've really just been concentrating on the written word and audio aspect of the podcast as it is quite a new project. I'm no video producer so I'm happy to leave that kind of thing to Nick, but it's certainly not out of the question for the podcast to broaden its scope, so UA-cam watch out!
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 DNA findings link the Phoenicians+ Canaanites as of Basque Origin. Also, the Indigenous White Berbers, People's of the Canary Islands, and the Irish. Irish are Gaelics not Celts, although there was the Viking and Norman Germanics (Celts possibly a specific Germanic group) Genetics is clarifying so much History. .
We DO know who Phoenicians are and where they originate: Lebanon. Phoenician culture is very well evidenced in its evolution from earlier Canaanite people who are Indigenous to Lebanon and what are now Palestine and Israel. Canaanite culture is represented in continuity in that area in the archaeological record. We know that Canaanite villages became the foundation of later city states because we have the archaeological record to prove it. Those early city states began to colonize the Mediterranean in the uniquely Phoenician way . The whole effort was born from trade because Phoenicians had the best goods to sell, and one that was exclusively theirs, namely crimson cloth. Sidon and Tyre were the two city states that initiated this and those two states remained powerful until they were finally consumed by Roman hegemony. They were again powerful post-Roman collapse.
@@hhunstad2011 Yes its not an easy or satisfactory to point something like that out. But we should not forget important facts about the Phoenicians religion. I am not sure if the Sumerians or Babylonians/Akkadians sacrificed their first born as a thanksgiving offering, but Greeks and Romans do record it as existing in their respective archaic history.
@Sasachiminesh, when you say they were again powerful post roman collapse, what time period are you referring to? Byzantine era? Caliphate era? Ottoman period? When? I would like to learn about this.
I watch/listen to this because it covers a lot of ground in a short space of time and sticks to the subject without going on tangents. I also like that the scope is constrained enough so that the content is meaningful. Thank you - looking forward to what's next.
This Chanel made me appreciate the idea/value of primary sources for so many of my new formative ideas (what’s old is new again I might add) which I can incorporate into comedic oratory craft.The other day for example I found (on the net )letters from the time of the French Revolution ,A woman’s dinner with Napoleon,Tower of London Torture survivor and a Dragoon’s first hand account of combat at Waterloo.When you read it it’s not like what you see or hear on film which is so stereotypical that it’s bland. Always liked the historical stuff ,gods and mythology in my youth but never pursued it .Whats is this going to be good for in the real world?Now I know.Keep up the good work.
thanks Nick. You've got good taste, to the point that I've probably watched videos on your channel dozens of times at the least. your work as curator and presenter here is appreciated.
Wow ! I loved this ! So much info provided in under a hour loved all the Maps some great graphics. It’s amazing of just how much trade was going on between places . Brings me back to Bronze Age Collapse . I think so many things going on from Drought
Plus War , Earthquakes caused trade that was being depending on caused a migration of people in search for new home . Sea Peoples just a part of everything else going on
Phoenicia did not end with Persian conquest. The Persians relied on the Phoenician cities for their navy. Tyre was still a powerful city when Alexander besieged it. The Phoenician people continued on after Alexander's conquest
The Phoenicians or Canaanites are the ancestors of most of the the peoples of the ancient Mediterranean world especially the Eastern side: The Levant, North Africa and part of South of Europe. They didn't disappear but they remained almost the same people till modern days (there are genetic proofs), however, after hundreds of years of invasions and falling under different civilizations and eras they developed a distinct identity. The Phoenician language, Alphabet, words, nouns, all developed into Arabic (and Semitic) and Greek and Latin languages, (the Greeks adopted the Phoenician Alphabet and many Phoenician Gods and Ideas). An essential part of the culture, music and Arts etc which you see it today in the Mediterranean World and West Europe had strong roots in the Phoenician and Arab civilizations.
@@munihmuni8814 well... Yes and no, if you are lebanese, particularly a Christian with roots in the rugged twin mountain ranges seperating it from Syria, you would claim the phonecians as your ancestors (mostly out of spite to distinguish themselves from the Palestinians in the open plains to their south). In reality, Phoenician is no more than a dialect which is part and parcel of the Kanaanite language.
PLEASE keep this up! Actually regarding the Herodtus account of the Phoenician's circumnav. of Africa there is an interesting part where Herod. mentions the sun rising from the wrong direction which points to the fact that the phoenicians having been in the southern hemisphere, something impossible if confined to the Mediterranean sea. This added to his description of them keeping the African continent to their right side the entire time in addition to their proven fearlessness lends good credence in my opinion.
Yes, this is an incredibly important and valid point. I find it an absolutely mindblowing achievement when you consider the dangerousness of the waters of the open oceans, but there's no doubt that they were skilled seafarers and the logic of the statements suggest the poosibility.
Firstly, it needs to be considered that during this time period the identity of city-states and nations were not entirely respective of race or ethnicity. For example; to the East in Ptolemaic Egypt, Seleucid Mesopotamia, and Bactrian Afghanistan - all of which were considered 'Hellenized' civilizations following the Achaemenid conquest of Alexander The Great and his Diadochi successors - the ethnic majorities very much remained intact. The masses of Seleucid Syria were very much Semitic/Persian in their customs, culture and ancestry. However, the key factor is that the ruling class/nobility of Seleucid Syria was Greek. This is important. Why? Because it is the ruling class and sovereign government that defines the people of a society in historical context. It's why the Seleucid Empire was viewed as a classical Greek state, when in reality only a minority of the society was in fact ethnically Greek. The same can be said for Carthage. The vast majority of Carthaginian civilization (which encompassed a far more diverse society than even the Diadochi states) was obviously 'indigenous'; meaning largely Libyan, Iberian, Berber, Greek and in some cases (like Alalia) Etruscan. That being said it is quite evident historically that the ruling class and nobility traced their ancestry directly back from Phoenicia in the Levant. Which was a confederation of post Bronze-Age-Collapse city-states drawing much of their direct ancestry from displaced Canaanites. In other words, not 'black' at all. The fact that the Phoenician alphabet gave way to Aramaic, Hebrew and Arab scripts is really all the evidence one needs to confirm cultural lineage to the area. The Suez Canal did not exist in classical antiquity. The notion of Sub-Saharan Eritreans ('black' people I suppose) sailing around the horn of Africa, up the West African coast, through Gibraltar, across Greek/Phoenician controlled waters and somehow assimilating and outright culturally dominating that ancient culture is absolutely absurd. It is also quite insulting to the already tarnished and fractured history of the Phoenicians.
It was supposed to have been the Phoenicians who taught the Irish how to refine gold and traded the purple dye for freshwater pearls common at the time in Irish rivers.
Fleucca ship in West Australia mesuem. Hieroglyphics, Egyptian, found in gosford NSW Australia Also you can follow the insignia, pottery, ship styles as the changes take place. The Star symbol, star forts, are an example. Star symbol used by multiple country's, companies today🤔
Awesome Documentary! LIKED and added to my HISTORY playlist. Thanks. Chris Hasler is fun to listen to. His cockney accent is strong, but consistent, and definitely not English, yet understandable. It's better than listening to a Klingon opera, but not as good as an Irish or better yet, an Australian accent. Let's face it. South Africans and New Zealanders are just pretenders, but Canadians claim to be the biggest drunks in the world, and they have the accent to match that claim, and of course, the Scotts have the most entertaining English accent of them all, and their frustration with Alexa is legendary. I found this video looking for info. on the "Say Pay Poes" (translated: Sea Peoples)
Canaanites known as Phoenicians invented the first alphabet - their own idea. We know for sure they are Semitic because we have a ton of text in their language. Punic can be understood from modern Arabic and Hebrew, they are so closely related. It's like the writer never heard of archaeology. We have a ton of stelae and inscriptions that evidence who these people are, not to mention the Torah completely confirms all this.
They did circumnavigate Africa the reason Herodotus doubted this was because they described the way the sun looks when looking from the tip of Africa and he didn’t understand that’s how it actually looked
Allyredstar I’m actually talking about mainstream and credible references. Such as articles published in Journals and by Faculty members of universities and etc.
Pyrrus had a terrible habit of starting something without finishing it, and his life ended on such a sour note. Shoulda just took the throne when he had the chance.
The Phoenician script is incredibly fascinating. It's the crossroads between simple glyphic symbols and modern alphabets. A vital part of the history of writing.
25:09: Map. One tribe listed, is called Celtiberi. True to their name, they spoke a Celtic language; same with many other tribes in ancient Spain. I am planning an alternate history called CeltWorld, where the ancient Celts ar not overpowered, and Celtic languages, incl. Continental Celtic, remain widely spoken.
You're absolutely correct Mike. Certainly the Near East was still reeling in the wake of the collapse during the 10th Century, but yes the 12th Century is the period of the Late Bronze Age Collapse. You're right to point this out.
I don't if you have visited Lebanon before making this documentary. I would tell you there is a sarcophagus of byblos king Ahiram in the national museum of Beirut where you find on this sarcophagus of the Phoenician alphabet,
I was curious about some of the styles of war, where they would have a champion from each side to fight to decide a battle and a war, rather than lose so many men and decimate the population and ruin the economy afterwards, such as they are did do in Greece. Was that prevalent all over the area or just coming from the Greek area and brought to them. David and Golioth's fight as an example.
It's an interesting point, but defies logic in my mind. Some have suggested that David versus Goliath is more of a metaphoric story of the battle between the two armies of Israel and Philistia. If my land had lost a war due to my greatest warrior being defeated one-on-one by my opponents' greatest warrior, then I would come back with a whole army and reverse my nation's fortunes.
Hello, I just want to tell you an info which I think it is very true. it is about the French city of Marseille. As far as we know is that this city is originally Phoenician according to its name / Marseille = Marsa El / which mean the port of El in Phoenician and El was a Phoenician God. I hope that this info can help.
German may not be the source of the word 'kin' cinn is son of fire is in old Irish and that's just one meaning. anything solar related was deleted here by our two masters. bel = solar deity to the celts. baal = phoenician solar deity. mull is mound or chieftain mull of kin tyre tír is land in Irish and scottish Gaelic but the people of tyre 🤔 Tiraz was a style of embroidery in antiquity - catherginians I think. The main supply of garments came from Tyre in antiquity no? Phoenicians known for their rich colours particularly purple the purple dye extracted from murex snails made the phoenicians very wealthy. worth its weight in gold. it was used in the book of kells. This was work carried out in scotland or Ireland (all the one to me) - ginga ninjas It should also trigger a few Scott's that were the kin of Tyre. Mull of kintyre or McIntyre. The etymology of kin is mistaken. Yes, the germans have kinders but the Irish have a whole selection of cinn words and we didnt have K so it's an easy deception. It means clan, spawn or origin. Mul means mound or excellence (as in his or her excellence). maol is crown of head or chief. my name in irish is Maolalaidh. it can also mean speckled but this word is also derived from portal. look at the map of ireland and spot the placenames beginning with cather cathar caher cathair . cathaoir cathair a city, Irish, Early Irish cathair, Old Irish cathir cathair a chair, Irish cathaoir, Early Irish catháir why cheftians called them high seats maybe? The Greeks referred to hibernia as 'The most ancient' Greece is old as shit! why are we connecting only some dots? let's get the round towers dated properly. To me they're clearly pre Christian as there isn't one record in the annals of 200 sky scrapers going up! a few damaged by lightning or flood or Danes on there alright but you would think it an important event. unless of course the annals were corrupted by their 4 masters. who are the sunburnt people today?
I feel like the part of history when Phoenicia becomes Carthage is almost unwritten about in history. It’s just one day a Phoenician colony becomes Carthage and that’s it!
Carthage comes from the words Carta Hague (bad spelling) it means New City/land. The phoenicians founded Thonis (as in Thonis Heracleon now under the waters north of egypt). Over 5000 years ago. When they were kicked out of Thonis after they founded egypt under King Menes (who was born in Thonis). They named the "New City" Thonis, or Tunisia. However everyone just started calling New Thonis, The New City. Or Carthage. That's the very simplified version atleast.
Phoenicians predate the Greek colonial expansion, duh. The first Greek colony near Phoenicians is where the Greeks picked up the alphabet. Akko, Tyre, Sidon were all powerful before the Egyptians conquered them. This is very badly researched. This narrator knows nothing about archaeology. Even the Torah reports that Canaanites were well established when Abraham came west. Canaanites are Indigenous to the Levant. We have deep archaeology showing that.
podcasts simple answer is water logistics. Water has always been the greatest barrier..ask Xerxes, Alexander, Mark Anthony, Churchill. Next is altitude, i.e., mountains/cold (hard water) ask Hitler and Napoleon. Next is forests (wet/humid)...ask Varus, Genghis and Jayavarman VII Couple water with universally, incompetent leadership and you have pyrrhic aporia.
Sir Walter Raleigh brought back tobacco from the colonies to England. He was in his home smoking and his servant freaked out and poured a bucket of water over him. He thought his head was on fire. 😂 So smoking must have been unknown to common people in England at that time.
See this video of cannabis residue on a jewish temple alter south of Jerusalem. ua-cam.com/video/Fv5gk9OYAPg/v-deo.html cannabis was known already, but in the east. Canaanites and skythians of Ukraine both used it. Tobacco was only in americas.
More likely the other way around. It is known the Minoans traded with Egypt and the eastern mediterranean. They also raised, harvested, and traded murex purple fabric dye en mass for bronze manufacturing resouces copper and tin. ua-cam.com/video/6VMhR6fpC-E/v-deo.html
The origin of the Phoenicians from the Arabian Peninsula migrated to Lebanon and then to North Africa This is what the father of history, Herodotus, Strabo, and others said They are not sucking Search well paul smith
Not a coincidence. They (jews) are the controllers of trade and creators of our modern English language and governmental institutions. Phoenicians=phonetic=phony, currencies = sea current, your birth=berth place, is your country's citizen"ship", "off shore "banks" ..learn about etymology and you'll see what I mean and beyond...
You have me a bit here due to things that I have learned. I might have missed your point about Jews creating our modern English language, as it doesn't appear to be logical that Semites created English. The words "Phoenician" and "phonetic" eminate from the Indo-European Ancient Greek to my knowledge, so I'm confused about the links to Jewish etymologies.
The Phoenicians invented the first alphabet, hence 'phonetics'. Being traders with an expanding industry, the Phoenicians needed a method to keep record and index of their trade stock: inventing an alphabet was the answer.
As a Tunisian I want to tell you that Carthage is not Phoenician colony . And Phoenicians is a Greek name. We call them the Canaanites.the real story is We the Berbers the original North African people a Canaanite merchants came to us from the east and merged with us in this land and we became a civilization and the first naval fleet in the Mediterranean. Our civilization included peoples from Sicily and Iberia as well. We, the Carthaginians, knew our trade methods, and we were the first to leave the Mediterranean to the African coast in the south. Our sailing and trading with the peoples of Britain included our history, unfortunately forgotten
The phoenician history goes on after the Fall of carthage tyros and the Rest of the libanon. When will you Talk about the eastphoenicians under persian ans trek rue till Roman rulership?
Yes, you are absolutely right. Just because a land is conquered, certainly doesn't mean that the ancient bloodlines disappear. Phoenicians would have surely lived on through Persian and Hellenistic times.
@CARTHAGETUNISIAHANNIBAL OK. Dumber IS Not possible. I gues. First of all. I m very Well wäre how Mandy carthages exist and never Said that there are more than one. Saying I die IT IS dumb. I also never Said that there Had ever Bern a Nation called phynica. Saying that ist dumb. However First of all. IT dies Not Matter If the Story ist true. Karthager starten as a collony of tyre and became Independent. Same language, culture Religion. Karthager worschipped Melcard the legendäre cityfounder of tyre. Tyre was and Always Had Ben the Most powerfull easternphoenician City collonized cyprus and was the only City having the resources to collonice. Allessa or Not. Box the way. Here Name was Dido Not allessa. WE have Not much information about easternphoenica. WE know at least in the time of 1000 bc IT was all conquerred by tyre. So the was at least a Shirt time in WHO h an easternphoenician Empire existed. Controller Not bei another City called carthages but by tyre. Period. WE so Not know If this Empire Fall appart later. However whenever someone wanted to conquer this areas the conquerer came for tyre and when tyre was conquerred the war was over. Which seems that this easternphoenician Empire survived for a very Long Time under assyrian, Babylonien, greek and Roman overlordship. And Eve more impotent. I m Well wäre that there was No country colled phoenica. I never Said this. Saying I die IS dumb. A civilisation dies Not necessarily have to bei a Nation. IT can alsobe a feudal organised Organisation that makes ITS own rules. We dont know much about tyre. However WE know that when rome conquerred something IT Dido Not necessarily romanive it. Sometimes they allowed the people to stay officially Independent as vasalstate, that pays Tribute. Judea for example was a vasalstate. Sparte, after the conquest of greece stayed officially Independent and even florrished. Tyre was the Leader of a coalition of 5 phoenician citystates under Roman overlordship and this lege of 5 we're still phoenicians. IT was the Rest of the easternphoenician empire. This Changes in the Seconds half of of the Seconds ventury after christ. This was the time of the end of the phoenicians. 300 years after carthages Fell.
Is there any way you could tell us how to get the history content from the English narrator without having to put up with you using this channel to post your political ideology?
It's an underground society. Carthage and the farmers continued underground in a 3D world and once In a while pop up in the mountains to leave magical art. They've had granite generated electricity for thousands of years. Check my videos it al starts with Hannibal and the Punic wars. He went to Italy to stall the army there so Hannibal could make a map of the Mediterranean sea and on his way left a one million stone to fuvk with the Romans in baalbeek cause Hannibal knew the Romans claimed Greek architecture by building tempels in top. On his way home he met up with khufu and made a deal. One gets a pyramid the other 10 thousands of his most valuable people for the new society. The inside of khufu is the beginning of the underground granite world, between the gallery walls is blockplanet. Where you are waitless cause you're going down. Hannibal and khufu kept word and after the last FARAO died the farmers teachers and doctors abandoned the gizeh plateau and went underground. Hannibal left a stone undug for the later FARAO he didn't like so much. 1000 ton just like the stone he left undug in baalbeek and just like the obelisk he did erect for khufu. He also left a stone with "translation" to fuck us. He the shaped Italy like a boot like it's kicking the ball to cartage. And left for Jordan with his new society before spreading out in the world eventually shipping to South America where they dominated the continent for a while. I made a scetch of the machine used to tunnel trough ground in granite box that gets dragged on the floor creating friction for the machine. Talking about climate friendly. Anyways hope you check out my vids. And it was also gravity that build the pyramids of Gizeh. the architect created three pyramids next to eachother and recreated the floors downwards. so you attach a two ton stone to another two ton stone on the other side, than they they become weightless. If you want one up, add some small weights on the other side just like on a wait scale and you have the stones drag eachother up, left right left right. No aliens or slaves. Just brains and ancient digging technology. Check out my vids for clear explanation with pictures.
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The Phoenicians also were friends with the Egyptians not just subjugated by them they had similar things in common and the Phoenicians needed the Egyptian special cloth (i forgotten the name ) for their ships and the ropes also from Egypt . The Pharaoh also organized several trips using the Phoenicians i forgotten which one we studied about him in public school overseas . later i will reveal a huge connection between Phoenicians and Etruscan and the Phoenix Myth , i had revealed it three times before elsewhere
Great video despite the error of assuming that the Phoenicians established Carthage and sailed around the Africain Atlantic coast ( based on historians who replicate old theories without real and profound research on the subject ) , this assumption is unfortunately wrong , we as modern Carthaginians have always claimed that we were not Phoenicians but to no avail since all the historical references which were mainly Greek of Romains were of hostile background due to wars between these three civilisations , but today with the fast growing genomic sciences and the DNA tests that local people are making we seldom find any traces of middle eastern genes in our DNA , we find Iberian or Italian traces but no significant middle eastern traces and if they were found they would be small and due mainly to the Arab invasion in the 7th century onwards , before this evidence of DNA came up recently we established our theory on the fact of the major difference between the way Carthaginians lived and the Phoenicians , Carthaginians were warriors but Phoenicians weren't, the warring tradition is a local aspect of the inhabitants of this land who we believe learned sailing and building ships from the few Phoenicians ( since they don't have any trace of their DNA in our blood today ) who settled in Utique and other settlements and not a migration in large numbers as it should be to the extent to say that they erected one of the most powerful civilisations of antiquity , the idea of this comment is to say that we are working on new information that will be established once the work is done and this will significantly change the history of Carthage that was written by its destructors the Romans .
So were the Phoenicians named after the dye or was the dye associated with the Phoenicians to the point that it became the color of the dye? The reason I ask is because Phut was the father of the Phoenicians and Canaan was the father of the Canaanites. These people also have a distinct Y chromosome of their place in the same family tree both being descendants of Ham the son of Noah. I know people's mind blanks out whenever Noah is mentioned. It happens to be what the evidence, DNA evidence, is.
@CARTHAGETUNISIAHANNIBAL It was the Phoenicians who controlled Mediterranean travel and trade. When Rome became a problem for them their last resort was to flee to Carthage which was where their last stand was.
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At 20:45 he discusses Herodotus' recounting of a story he heard about Phoenicians circumnavigating Africa (and how Herodotus himself doubted the story's veracity). He fails to mention a crucial detail in the story that, to us, confirms the story is true.
Herodotus says the Phoenician explorers sailed south along the east coast of Africa until they turned west to get around what we today would call The Cape of Good Hope. At that point, the Phoenician sailors claimed that the mid-day sun was on their right. Heredotus regarded this as cause to disbelieve the story because, to the European worldview of the time, the sun being on your right when facing west was an impossibility. Of course, nowadays we understand that the Phoenicians had simply sailed into the southern hemisphere, so the mid-day sun appearing on their right when facing west would be perfectly natural and expected.
That detail - one that caused Herodotus to doubt the story's truthfulness - is the very thing that proves the Phoenicians did indeed circumnavigate Africa.
Excellent post! I avoided elaborating on this subject as I couldn't triangulate stuff to do with it too well. The fact that the Phoenicians would potentially have a believable capability to do that was the aim of the paragraph. I wonder if Herodotus' Greek roots would have been enough to outwardly doubt Phoenician capabilities, and I also think that by Herodotus' lifetime, there would have been an active canal linking the Nile to the Red Sea, so the ability to circumnavigate Africa wouldn't have necessarily carried the political stigma that it may have once done if you were anti-Punic. Wonderful discussion though! Thanks for the valuable feedback.
WOW, believe it or not I can help add to that. I was in Morocco recently and, according to everything I saw/read/heard, the Phoenicians would kidnap local Berber men and "conscript" them into the navy on there way south. Months or years later, on occasion, they would release them on upon returning. The Berber are well aware of the exploits of the Phoenicians voyages south.
This is very interesting. There would have definitely been a familiarity between the Carthaginians and the Berbers. They would have definitely been the bosses of the Berbers near to Carthage, but they would have had strong links to the Berbers at places such as Mogador too.
Egyptian king Neco (II 609 B.C. - 594 B.C.) sends his Phoenician ships (611 B.C.) on an over two-year voyage around Africa from the Red Sea through Gibraltar then on to Egypt. See pg. 283 - 284 The Histories (Penguin Classics) Herodotus
@Gary Daniel The whole voyage was a promotional!
Phoenicians are a key culture in understanding the development of our modern world. I had a wonderful time with this video this morning. I don't participate in iTunes, so having access to this History of the World podcast series here on UA-cam is very satisfying. Thanks again, Nick.
Bert Jordan I couldn’t agree with you more! Thanks for your time and your undying support and I hope that things are well with you, your family and friends!
Take a look around the website, Bert. There may be something there that is of use to you. historyoftheworldpodcast.com/
True True! Any Saleman would sell*off; 'er granny for a nice ship! And and An Couple of NUBian Girlz AllRiGHT? SAY NO MORE! Tee he!! 🤔😉😻
I once talked to a Dutch person and he said that the Dutch people were descendants of the Phoenicians, from Tyre
Neither the phoenicians, nor the greeks nor the romans, are key to understanding the modern world. The foundations of the modern world were set in Christian Europe, for example, the year we are in, the use of banks, shops closed on Sunday, etc...etc..etc..the whole world was shaped by Christian Europe. There, I helped you, now understand the world.
Carthage still called Carthage in Tunisia because of the strong and amazing history and culture it has. Thank you for making a part of our history clear to others.
As it should be. I'm absolutely fascinated by the Carthaginian harbour and naval base.
@@historyoftheworldpodcast5234 you should come and visit, Carthage is so amazing, also I recommend you to visit the amphitheatre of El Jem it's the second biggest amphitheatre in the world, it exists in a city called El Jem in Tunisia.
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@@6_alsw Arabs are completely unrelated to this !
@@6_alsw Tous les envahisseurs qui peuplent l’Afrique du nord ne sont là que depuis le 6è-7è siècle de notre ère, suite à l’invasion arabo-musulmane. Les Tunisiens actuels ne connaissent rien des phéniciens , et sont étrangers à tout ce qu’ils ont trouvé en terre Carthaginoise.
Ils peuvent prétendre être des phéniciens, sauf qu’ils ignorent complètement et paradoxalement le 1er élément basique de la culture phénicienne: L’ÉCRITURE ET LA LANGUE PHÉNICIENNE .
C’est ça la vérité qui efface toute vos prétentions
Dude this is beautifully detailed, a real pleasure to watch... I've only got to watch half of it so far but I'm really loving this episode. Thanks for taking out the time and effort to create it. ^^
Glad you enjoyed it! And thanks for your support! For more of his work, check out The History of the World Podcast and let him know that Nick sent you his way!
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 These are excellent resources for those who want to learn history. I've subscribed. Thanks again! AC
Arjun Chatterjee we truly appreciate that! Thank you so much!
Byblos is very interesting, since it plays a role in both the Greek and the Egyptian traditions.
Terrific job as ever Nick. Thank you for putting some visual guidance alongside the podcast. It really does help to illustrate the script! Warmest regards, Chris
History of the World podcast As always it’s a pleasure! I was happy to use video footage in this one and I’ll definitely be doing more in the future. You did an excellent presentation!
hey chris, why don't you have any content here on y/t?
@@nukelaloosh4795 Hello Nuke. I've really just been concentrating on the written word and audio aspect of the podcast as it is quite a new project. I'm no video producer so I'm happy to leave that kind of thing to Nick, but it's certainly not out of the question for the podcast to broaden its scope, so UA-cam watch out!
History of the World podcast I think you would do wonderfully awesome work!
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DNA findings link the Phoenicians+ Canaanites as of Basque Origin. Also, the Indigenous White Berbers, People's of the Canary Islands, and the Irish.
Irish are Gaelics not Celts, although there was the Viking and Norman Germanics (Celts possibly a specific Germanic group)
Genetics is clarifying so much History.
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We DO know who Phoenicians are and where they originate: Lebanon. Phoenician culture is very well evidenced in its evolution from earlier Canaanite people who are Indigenous to Lebanon and what are now Palestine and Israel. Canaanite culture is represented in continuity in that area in the archaeological record. We know that Canaanite villages became the foundation of later city states because we have the archaeological record to prove it. Those early city states began to colonize the Mediterranean in the uniquely Phoenician way . The whole effort was born from trade because Phoenicians had the best goods to sell, and one that was exclusively theirs, namely crimson cloth. Sidon and Tyre were the two city states that initiated this and those two states remained powerful until they were finally consumed by Roman hegemony. They were again powerful post-Roman collapse.
Yes, and they also sacrificed children.
@@alejandromadrid8075 hey Jack, not cool, don't waste your energy on comments like that, you've got to much to offer the world
Liked reading what you had to say. Thanks for sharing your insight!
@@hhunstad2011 Yes its not an easy or satisfactory to point something like that out. But we should not forget important facts about the Phoenicians religion. I am not sure if the Sumerians or Babylonians/Akkadians sacrificed their first born as a thanksgiving offering, but Greeks and Romans do record it as existing in their respective archaic history.
@Sasachiminesh, when you say they were again powerful post roman collapse, what time period are you referring to? Byzantine era? Caliphate era? Ottoman period? When? I would like to learn about this.
I watch/listen to this because it covers a lot of ground in a short space of time and sticks to the subject without going on tangents. I also like that the scope is constrained enough so that the content is meaningful. Thank you - looking forward to what's next.
Thanks so much for posting this. Quite enjoyable to listen to and I really appreciate the maps!
great video. I was skeptical by the long intro but I regress. subscribed. welcome to my elite core of history channel collections.
Absolutely fantastic video. The best work I’ve seen on this channel so far, thank you 🙏
I love listening to people that knows their stuff 👍
This Chanel made me appreciate the idea/value of primary sources for so many of my new formative ideas (what’s old is new again I might add) which I can incorporate into comedic oratory craft.The other day for example I found (on the net )letters from the time of the French Revolution ,A woman’s dinner with Napoleon,Tower of London Torture survivor and a Dragoon’s first hand account of combat at Waterloo.When you read it it’s not like what you see or hear on film which is so stereotypical that it’s bland.
Always liked the historical stuff ,gods and mythology in my youth but never pursued it .Whats is this going to be good for in the real world?Now I know.Keep up the good work.
thanks Nick. You've got good taste, to the point that I've probably watched videos on your channel dozens of times at the least. your work as curator and presenter here is appreciated.
My favorite ancient civilizations!
Some extended analysis of the Carthaginians and Phoenicians would always be appreciated. Thanks for existing.
Wow ! I loved this ! So much info provided in under a hour loved all the Maps some great graphics. It’s amazing of just how much trade was going on between places . Brings me back to Bronze Age Collapse . I think so many things going on from Drought
Plus War , Earthquakes caused trade that was being depending on caused a migration of people in search for new home . Sea Peoples just a part of everything else going on
Phoenicia did not end with Persian conquest. The Persians relied on the Phoenician cities for their navy. Tyre was still a powerful city when Alexander besieged it. The Phoenician people continued on after Alexander's conquest
The Phoenicians or Canaanites are the ancestors of most of the the peoples of the ancient Mediterranean world especially the Eastern side: The Levant, North Africa and part of South of Europe. They didn't disappear but they remained almost the same people till modern days (there are genetic proofs), however, after hundreds of years of invasions and falling under different civilizations and eras they developed a distinct identity. The Phoenician language, Alphabet, words, nouns, all developed into Arabic (and Semitic) and Greek and Latin languages, (the Greeks adopted the Phoenician Alphabet and many Phoenician Gods and Ideas). An essential part of the culture, music and Arts etc which you see it today in the Mediterranean World and West Europe had strong roots in the Phoenician and Arab civilizations.
I know that we are a small Island,but you seem to have forgotten about Malta as part of the Phoenicians / Carthage.
Sorry!!!
Actually the only place left in Europe where the Phoenician language is still more or less spoken, no?
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He forgot that the phoenicians and Cannites are the same, no?
@@munihmuni8814 well... Yes and no, if you are lebanese, particularly a Christian with roots in the rugged twin mountain ranges seperating it from Syria, you would claim the phonecians as your ancestors (mostly out of spite to distinguish themselves from the Palestinians in the open plains to their south). In reality, Phoenician is no more than a dialect which is part and parcel of the Kanaanite language.
PLEASE keep this up! Actually regarding the Herodtus account of the Phoenician's circumnav. of Africa there is an interesting part where Herod. mentions the sun rising from the wrong direction which points to the fact that the phoenicians having been in the southern hemisphere, something impossible if confined to the Mediterranean sea. This added to his description of them keeping the African continent to their right side the entire time in addition to their proven fearlessness lends good credence in my opinion.
Yes, this is an incredibly important and valid point. I find it an absolutely mindblowing achievement when you consider the dangerousness of the waters of the open oceans, but there's no doubt that they were skilled seafarers and the logic of the statements suggest the poosibility.
Firstly, it needs to be considered that during this time period the identity of city-states and nations were not entirely respective of race or ethnicity. For example; to the East in Ptolemaic Egypt, Seleucid Mesopotamia, and Bactrian Afghanistan - all of which were considered 'Hellenized' civilizations following the Achaemenid conquest of Alexander The Great and his Diadochi successors - the ethnic majorities very much remained intact.
The masses of Seleucid Syria were very much Semitic/Persian in their customs, culture and ancestry. However, the key factor is that the ruling class/nobility of Seleucid Syria was Greek. This is important. Why? Because it is the ruling class and sovereign government that defines the people of a society in historical context. It's why the Seleucid Empire was viewed as a classical Greek state, when in reality only a minority of the society was in fact ethnically Greek.
The same can be said for Carthage.
The vast majority of Carthaginian civilization (which encompassed a far more diverse society than even the Diadochi states) was obviously 'indigenous'; meaning largely Libyan, Iberian, Berber, Greek and in some cases (like Alalia) Etruscan. That being said it is quite evident historically that the ruling class and nobility traced their ancestry directly back from Phoenicia in the Levant. Which was a confederation of post Bronze-Age-Collapse city-states drawing much of their direct ancestry from displaced Canaanites. In other words, not 'black' at all. The fact that the Phoenician alphabet gave way to Aramaic, Hebrew and Arab scripts is really all the evidence one needs to confirm cultural lineage to the area.
The Suez Canal did not exist in classical antiquity. The notion of Sub-Saharan Eritreans ('black' people I suppose) sailing around the horn of Africa, up the West African coast, through Gibraltar, across Greek/Phoenician controlled waters and somehow assimilating and outright culturally dominating that ancient culture is absolutely absurd. It is also quite insulting to the already tarnished and fractured history of the Phoenicians.
really going to miss you and you're content! RIP
Phoenician descendants : Lebanese, Tunisians, Cypriots, Sardinians, Sicilians, Maltese.Proud of our blood
It was supposed to have been the Phoenicians who taught the Irish how to refine gold and traded the purple dye for freshwater pearls common at the time in Irish rivers.
I love your enthusiasm!!! Thank you for a great channel
The Carthaginians are also commemorated in the Latin name of the pomegranate, Punica granatum, which means apple of Carthage.
Fleucca ship in West Australia mesuem. Hieroglyphics, Egyptian, found in gosford NSW Australia
Also you can follow the insignia, pottery, ship styles as the changes take place. The Star symbol, star forts, are an example. Star symbol used by multiple country's, companies today🤔
I've tried to search for info on this to no avail , do you have any links? As an Aussie I'm fascinated. Thanks
Awesome Documentary! LIKED and added to my HISTORY playlist. Thanks. Chris Hasler is fun to listen to. His cockney accent is strong, but consistent, and definitely not English, yet understandable. It's better than listening to a Klingon opera, but not as good as an Irish or better yet, an Australian accent. Let's face it. South Africans and New Zealanders are just pretenders, but Canadians claim to be the biggest drunks in the world, and they have the accent to match that claim, and of course, the Scotts have the most entertaining English accent of them all, and their frustration with Alexa is legendary. I found this video looking for info. on the "Say Pay Poes" (translated: Sea Peoples)
Canaanites known as Phoenicians invented the first alphabet - their own idea. We know for sure they are Semitic because we have a ton of text in their language. Punic can be understood from modern Arabic and Hebrew, they are so closely related. It's like the writer never heard of archaeology. We have a ton of stelae and inscriptions that evidence who these people are, not to mention the Torah completely confirms all this.
We love the lore on history .
They did circumnavigate Africa the reason Herodotus doubted this was because they described the way the sun looks when looking from the tip of Africa and he didn’t understand that’s how it actually looked
Good feedback!
Thank you very much
Thanks!
Basically the Romans attempted to remove them from history.
There can be only ONE!... *HIGHLANDER!*
After they taught them so much like ships and language etc... Unfortunatly yes. Humans...
But failed..live long Carthage
That image of the evolution of the Phoenician alphabet is fantastic!
D H yeah I found the video online as a gif. Very cool!
Allyredstar feel free to post mainstream counter sources.
Allyredstar so do you actually have sources and references to validate your stance? And will you post them so we can all read them as well?
Allyredstar so basically you won’t post any mainstream sources and or references that validate your stance?
Allyredstar I’m actually talking about mainstream and credible references. Such as articles published in Journals and by Faculty members of universities and etc.
Yeah! Maps!
Really enjoying it. Thank you.
Pyrrus had a terrible habit of starting something without finishing it, and his life ended on such a sour note. Shoulda just took the throne when he had the chance.
Thank you sir, enjoy the videos.
Timely . enjoyed , sub'd and will look into your entire output. Many Thanks. Phoenician Script is very interesting.
The Phoenician script is incredibly fascinating. It's the crossroads between simple glyphic symbols and modern alphabets. A vital part of the history of writing.
still, I didn't go through the whole video, but good job man. here is a Tunisian Carthaginian man
Very nice podcast though and handy maps 👍🏼
HELL YEAH! Thank you
25:09: Map. One tribe listed, is called Celtiberi. True to their name, they spoke a Celtic language; same with many other tribes in ancient Spain. I am planning an alternate history called CeltWorld, where the ancient Celts ar not overpowered, and Celtic languages, incl. Continental Celtic, remain widely spoken.
Michael Caine should be narrating more historical podcasts really
Not a lot of people know that ?
He mentions the Sea Peoples and the Bronze Age Collapse being in the “10th century BCE”? The Collapse happened around 1200 - 1175 BCE
You're absolutely correct Mike. Certainly the Near East was still reeling in the wake of the collapse during the 10th Century, but yes the 12th Century is the period of the Late Bronze Age Collapse. You're right to point this out.
Thanks again, bruvvah Nick. Cheers -
never gonna get used to him being gone. Immortal, in an odd way.
Does Chris have his own you tube channel?
Only the podcast Sunny.
Ok I see. Thanks for letting me know.
I found your podcast I’m listening now from the beginning
I'm out here camping on mount Shasta listening!!
Awesome stuff! :D
I don't if you have visited Lebanon before making this documentary. I would tell you there is a sarcophagus of byblos king Ahiram in the national museum of Beirut where you find on this sarcophagus of the Phoenician alphabet,
I was curious about some of the styles of war, where they would have a champion from each side to fight to decide a battle and a war, rather than lose so many men and decimate the population and ruin the economy afterwards, such as they are did do in Greece. Was that prevalent all over the area or just coming from the Greek area and brought to them. David and Golioth's fight as an example.
It's an interesting point, but defies logic in my mind. Some have suggested that David versus Goliath is more of a metaphoric story of the battle between the two armies of Israel and Philistia. If my land had lost a war due to my greatest warrior being defeated one-on-one by my opponents' greatest warrior, then I would come back with a whole army and reverse my nation's fortunes.
Hello, I just want to tell you an info which I think it is very true. it is about the French city of Marseille. As far as we know is that this city is originally Phoenician according to its name / Marseille = Marsa El / which mean the port of El in Phoenician and El was a Phoenician God. I hope that this info can help.
You sound kind of like Dan Carlin there in the introduction!!
mauserwaffen 98 that is a compliment I’m happy to take!
Miss this guy :(
Cigar stays alight chain smoking was Neolithic Fire Carrying to new Camp…. Long distance Fire Carriers!
German may not be the source of the word 'kin'
cinn is son of fire is in old Irish and that's just one meaning. anything solar related was deleted here by our two masters.
bel = solar deity to the celts.
baal = phoenician solar deity.
mull is mound or chieftain
mull of kin tyre
tír is land in Irish and scottish Gaelic but the people of tyre 🤔
Tiraz was a style of embroidery in antiquity - catherginians I think.
The main supply of garments came from Tyre in antiquity no?
Phoenicians known for their rich colours particularly purple
the purple dye extracted from murex snails made the phoenicians very wealthy. worth its weight in gold.
it was used in the book of kells.
This was work carried out in scotland or Ireland (all the one to me) - ginga ninjas
It should also trigger a few Scott's that were the kin of Tyre. Mull of kintyre or McIntyre. The etymology of kin is mistaken. Yes, the germans have kinders but the Irish have a whole selection of cinn words and we didnt have K so it's an easy deception. It means clan, spawn or origin. Mul means mound or excellence (as in his or her excellence). maol is crown of head or chief. my name in irish is Maolalaidh. it can also mean speckled but this word is also derived from portal.
look at the map of ireland and spot the placenames beginning with cather cathar caher cathair . cathaoir
cathair
a city, Irish, Early Irish cathair, Old Irish cathir
cathair
a chair, Irish cathaoir, Early Irish catháir
why cheftians called them high seats maybe?
The Greeks referred to hibernia as 'The most ancient' Greece is old as shit! why are we connecting only some dots?
let's get the round towers dated properly. To me they're clearly pre Christian as there isn't one record in the annals of 200 sky scrapers going up! a few damaged by lightning or flood or Danes on there alright but you would think it an important event. unless of course the annals were corrupted by their 4 masters.
who are the sunburnt people today?
In Greek mythology, Europa was a Phoenician princess. Europe was named after her.
As well as other countries whose names have Phoenician origin such as Spain, Britain,... as well as the possibility of Africa being amongst them too !
HAND TO HAND COMBAT
Such a loooooooooong intro. Said "ladies and gentlemen" three times!
Israel, to this day, has a huge slab of glass in Beth She'arim somewhere in Galilee.
I feel like the part of history when Phoenicia becomes Carthage is almost unwritten about in history. It’s just one day a Phoenician colony becomes Carthage and that’s it!
Carthage comes from the words Carta Hague (bad spelling) it means New City/land. The phoenicians founded Thonis (as in Thonis Heracleon now under the waters north of egypt). Over 5000 years ago. When they were kicked out of Thonis after they founded egypt under King Menes (who was born in Thonis). They named the "New City" Thonis, or Tunisia. However everyone just started calling New Thonis, The New City. Or Carthage. That's the very simplified version atleast.
Luv ur books, very impressive.
Does that make Canaan the barbarian?
No the barbarian came later
The term " Phoenicia " is a Greek term.
Correct.
It means the purple people! Tyrian dyes made them prosper
Phoenicians predate the Greek colonial expansion, duh. The first Greek colony near Phoenicians is where the Greeks picked up the alphabet. Akko, Tyre, Sidon were all powerful before the Egyptians conquered them. This is very badly researched. This narrator knows nothing about archaeology. Even the Torah reports that Canaanites were well established when Abraham came west. Canaanites are Indigenous to the Levant. We have deep archaeology showing that.
Naval based empires (carthaginians. British, et al) seem to always fail to proximity land based systems (egyptians. Persians, Romans, mongols, etc.)
What do you believe to be the reasons for this?
podcasts simple answer is water logistics. Water has always been the greatest barrier..ask Xerxes, Alexander, Mark Anthony, Churchill. Next is altitude, i.e., mountains/cold (hard water) ask Hitler and Napoleon. Next is forests (wet/humid)...ask Varus, Genghis and Jayavarman VII
Couple water with universally, incompetent leadership and you have pyrrhic aporia.
Sir Walter Raleigh brought back tobacco from the colonies to England. He was in his home smoking and his servant freaked out and poured a bucket of water over him. He thought his head was on fire. 😂 So smoking must have been unknown to common people in England at that time.
See this video of cannabis residue on a jewish temple alter south of Jerusalem. ua-cam.com/video/Fv5gk9OYAPg/v-deo.html cannabis was known already, but in the east. Canaanites and skythians of Ukraine both used it. Tobacco was only in americas.
I wonder if the minoans had an influence on early phoenician people.
More likely the other way around. It is known the Minoans traded with Egypt and the eastern mediterranean. They also raised, harvested, and traded murex purple fabric dye en mass for bronze manufacturing resouces copper and tin.
ua-cam.com/video/6VMhR6fpC-E/v-deo.html
The origin of the Phoenicians from the Arabian Peninsula migrated to Lebanon and then to North Africa This is what the father of history, Herodotus, Strabo, and others said They are not sucking Search well paul smith
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I talked like this to my wife and she laughed and slapped me. Lmao.
When I think of Phoenicians I think of Phonetics. Any similarities?
I think that this is coincidence, but who am I to say so? You are certainly not the first person to bring this up, so it deserves further discussion.
Not a coincidence. They (jews) are the controllers of trade and creators of our modern English language and governmental institutions. Phoenicians=phonetic=phony, currencies = sea current, your birth=berth place, is your country's citizen"ship", "off shore "banks" ..learn about etymology and you'll see what I mean and beyond...
You have me a bit here due to things that I have learned. I might have missed your point about Jews creating our modern English language, as it doesn't appear to be logical that Semites created English. The words "Phoenician" and "phonetic" eminate from the Indo-European Ancient Greek to my knowledge, so I'm confused about the links to Jewish etymologies.
The Phoenicians invented the first alphabet, hence 'phonetics'. Being traders with an expanding industry, the Phoenicians needed a method to keep record and index of their trade stock: inventing an alphabet was the answer.
Phonetics is derived from Phoenicians, which is the voice of their alphabet/ les voyelles in french / the A/E/U/I/O/Y.
I rather like the intro, well done!
Tell me, how excellent is it?
Please cover the Volcae
As a Tunisian I want to tell you that Carthage is not Phoenician colony . And Phoenicians is a Greek name. We call them the Canaanites.the real story is We the Berbers the original North African people a Canaanite merchants came to us from the east and merged with us in this land and we became a civilization and the first naval fleet in the Mediterranean. Our civilization included peoples from Sicily and Iberia as well. We, the Carthaginians, knew our trade methods, and we were the first to leave the Mediterranean to the African coast in the south. Our sailing and trading with the peoples of Britain included our history, unfortunately forgotten
You are hilarious. Carthage was established by Lebanese people, aka the Phoenicians.
Are you Holly, the computer, from Red Dwarf?
The phoenician history goes on after the Fall of carthage tyros and the Rest of the libanon. When will you Talk about the eastphoenicians under persian ans trek rue till Roman rulership?
Yes, you are absolutely right. Just because a land is conquered, certainly doesn't mean that the ancient bloodlines disappear. Phoenicians would have surely lived on through Persian and Hellenistic times.
@CARTHAGETUNISIAHANNIBAL OK. Dumber IS Not possible. I gues. First of all. I m very Well wäre how Mandy carthages exist and never Said that there are more than one. Saying I die IT IS dumb. I also never Said that there Had ever Bern a Nation called phynica. Saying that ist dumb. However First of all. IT dies Not Matter If the Story ist true. Karthager starten as a collony of tyre and became Independent. Same language, culture Religion. Karthager worschipped Melcard the legendäre cityfounder of tyre. Tyre was and Always Had Ben the Most powerfull easternphoenician City collonized cyprus and was the only City having the resources to collonice. Allessa or Not. Box the way. Here Name was Dido Not allessa. WE have Not much information about easternphoenica. WE know at least in the time of 1000 bc IT was all conquerred by tyre. So the was at least a Shirt time in WHO h an easternphoenician Empire existed. Controller Not bei another City called carthages but by tyre. Period. WE so Not know If this Empire Fall appart later. However whenever someone wanted to conquer this areas the conquerer came for tyre and when tyre was conquerred the war was over. Which seems that this easternphoenician Empire survived for a very Long Time under assyrian, Babylonien, greek and Roman overlordship. And Eve more impotent. I m Well wäre that there was No country colled phoenica. I never Said this. Saying I die IS dumb. A civilisation dies Not necessarily have to bei a Nation. IT can alsobe a feudal organised Organisation that makes ITS own rules. We dont know much about tyre. However WE know that when rome conquerred something IT Dido Not necessarily romanive it. Sometimes they allowed the people to stay officially Independent as vasalstate, that pays Tribute. Judea for example was a vasalstate. Sparte, after the conquest of greece stayed officially Independent and even florrished. Tyre was the Leader of a coalition of 5 phoenician citystates under Roman overlordship and this lege of 5 we're still phoenicians. IT was the Rest of the easternphoenician empire. This Changes in the Seconds half of of the Seconds ventury after christ. This was the time of the end of the phoenicians. 300 years after carthages Fell.
The story of coffee is fascinating. Perhaps a podest topic.
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Is there any way you could tell us how to get the history content from the English narrator without having to put up with you using this channel to post your political ideology?
It's an underground society. Carthage and the farmers continued underground in a 3D world and once In a while pop up in the mountains to leave magical art. They've had granite generated electricity for thousands of years. Check my videos it al starts with Hannibal and the Punic wars. He went to Italy to stall the army there so Hannibal could make a map of the Mediterranean sea and on his way left a one million stone to fuvk with the Romans in baalbeek cause Hannibal knew the Romans claimed Greek architecture by building tempels in top. On his way home he met up with khufu and made a deal. One gets a pyramid the other 10 thousands of his most valuable people for the new society. The inside of khufu is the beginning of the underground granite world, between the gallery walls is blockplanet. Where you are waitless cause you're going down. Hannibal and khufu kept word and after the last FARAO died the farmers teachers and doctors abandoned the gizeh plateau and went underground. Hannibal left a stone undug for the later FARAO he didn't like so much. 1000 ton just like the stone he left undug in baalbeek and just like the obelisk he did erect for khufu. He also left a stone with "translation" to fuck us. He the shaped Italy like a boot like it's kicking the ball to cartage. And left for Jordan with his new society before spreading out in the world eventually shipping to South America where they dominated the continent for a while. I made a scetch of the machine used to tunnel trough ground in granite box that gets dragged on the floor creating friction for the machine. Talking about climate friendly. Anyways hope you check out my vids. And it was also gravity that build the pyramids of Gizeh. the architect created three pyramids next to eachother and recreated the floors downwards. so you attach a two ton stone to another two ton stone on the other side, than they they become weightless. If you want one up, add some small weights on the other side just like on a wait scale and you have the stones drag eachother up, left right left right. No aliens or slaves. Just brains and ancient digging technology. Check out my vids for clear explanation with pictures.
Isn't the overground world a 3D world?
I am unable to find your videos?
Phoenicians, Carthiginians and Canaanites ALL had skin tones that looked like copper pennies
They were black
@@danyelahtabaat4808 YES THEY WERE BLACK AND ALL THE TRUTHS ARE COMING OUT
We wuz KANGZ 😂
FROM WHICH SOURCE?
Their skin is white and tends to be red like the Arabs Because they are from the Arabian Peninsula and they are the ancestors of the present Arabs KonohaTV Network
The rise and sinking of Atlantis
another good'n
I guess 5 links is a variety.
Tartus? omg, need I say more?
The Phoenicians also were friends with the Egyptians not just subjugated by them they had similar things in common and the Phoenicians needed the Egyptian special cloth (i forgotten the name ) for their ships and the ropes also from Egypt . The Pharaoh also organized several trips using the Phoenicians i forgotten which one we studied about him in public school overseas . later i will reveal a huge connection between Phoenicians and Etruscan and the Phoenix Myth , i had revealed it three times before elsewhere
Ha. You seem to do a lot of forgetting for an expert.
Great video despite the error of assuming that the Phoenicians established Carthage and sailed around the Africain Atlantic coast ( based on historians who replicate old theories without real and profound research on the subject ) , this assumption is unfortunately wrong , we as modern Carthaginians have always claimed that we were not Phoenicians but to no avail since all the historical references which were mainly Greek of Romains were of hostile background due to wars between these three civilisations , but today with the fast growing genomic sciences and the DNA tests that local people are making we seldom find any traces of middle eastern genes in our DNA , we find Iberian or Italian traces but no significant middle eastern traces and if they were found they would be small and due mainly to the Arab invasion in the 7th century onwards , before this evidence of DNA came up recently we established our theory on the fact of the major difference between the way Carthaginians lived and the Phoenicians , Carthaginians were warriors
but Phoenicians weren't, the warring tradition is a local aspect of the inhabitants of this land who we believe learned sailing and building ships from the few Phoenicians ( since they don't have any trace of their DNA in our blood today ) who settled in Utique and other settlements and not a migration in large numbers as it should be to the extent to say that they erected one of the most powerful civilisations of antiquity , the idea of this comment is to say that we are working on new information that will be established once the work is done and this will significantly change the history of Carthage that was written by its destructors the Romans .
Because the original Phoenicians originally came from Ireland. Canaan was just one of their colonies.
so where do the pheonicians and the irish merge
Conch shell. Signs for caninites Royal colour purple. Held past resets information. Antiquitech.
750bc big catastrophic event
Translated Egyptian hiraglyphs in Gosford nsw Australia
The first experience of alcohol may have been from fermented fruit falling off trees.
So were the Phoenicians named after the dye or was the dye associated with the Phoenicians to the point that it became the color of the dye? The reason I ask is because Phut was the father of the Phoenicians and Canaan was the father of the Canaanites. These people also have a distinct Y chromosome of their place in the same family tree both being descendants of Ham the son of Noah. I know people's mind blanks out whenever Noah is mentioned. It happens to be what the evidence, DNA evidence, is.
@Ramona Rael Semitic people are from the son of Noah.
@CARTHAGETUNISIAHANNIBAL It was the Phoenicians who controlled Mediterranean travel and trade. When Rome became a problem for them their last resort was to flee to Carthage which was where their last stand was.
That intro nearly drove me of... Why the enormous drama?
The Fukuyamans lol the way he says it 😂
Who?!
I spelled it wrong lol but it was one of the Ancient Greek confederations you referred to
Where is the jewish wars by Josephus.anyway nice video
Hey thanks for commenting and showing your support! Since my channel is monetized I removed all videos that could experience copyright issues, however I am in the process of eventually creating the public domain version into an audiobook, the only downside is that it takes quite a bit of time.
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 oh thank you hope your channel grows
I forgot to mention if you have audible the professional one is on there as well!
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 ok
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Nice presentation. Narrator sounds a bit like Winston Churchill. The smoking comment is like anything else...discovered by accident.
Sounds more like Dick van Dyck
in Mary Poppins..
Eyenshent.....!?!? Dreadful.