The Punic Empires of Phoenicia and Carthage

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  • @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449
    @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449  4 роки тому +4

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  • @AbbeyRoadkill1
    @AbbeyRoadkill1 5 років тому +136

    At 20:45 he discusses Herodotus' recounting of a story he heard about Phoenicians circumnavigating Africa (and how Herodotus himself doubted the story's veracity). He fails to mention a crucial detail in the story that, to us, confirms the story is true.
    Herodotus says the Phoenician explorers sailed south along the east coast of Africa until they turned west to get around what we today would call The Cape of Good Hope. At that point, the Phoenician sailors claimed that the mid-day sun was on their right. Heredotus regarded this as cause to disbelieve the story because, to the European worldview of the time, the sun being on your right when facing west was an impossibility. Of course, nowadays we understand that the Phoenicians had simply sailed into the southern hemisphere, so the mid-day sun appearing on their right when facing west would be perfectly natural and expected.
    That detail - one that caused Herodotus to doubt the story's truthfulness - is the very thing that proves the Phoenicians did indeed circumnavigate Africa.

    • @historyoftheworldpodcast5234
      @historyoftheworldpodcast5234 5 років тому +22

      Excellent post! I avoided elaborating on this subject as I couldn't triangulate stuff to do with it too well. The fact that the Phoenicians would potentially have a believable capability to do that was the aim of the paragraph. I wonder if Herodotus' Greek roots would have been enough to outwardly doubt Phoenician capabilities, and I also think that by Herodotus' lifetime, there would have been an active canal linking the Nile to the Red Sea, so the ability to circumnavigate Africa wouldn't have necessarily carried the political stigma that it may have once done if you were anti-Punic. Wonderful discussion though! Thanks for the valuable feedback.

    • @mikesanders3246
      @mikesanders3246 5 років тому +18

      WOW, believe it or not I can help add to that. I was in Morocco recently and, according to everything I saw/read/heard, the Phoenicians would kidnap local Berber men and "conscript" them into the navy on there way south. Months or years later, on occasion, they would release them on upon returning. The Berber are well aware of the exploits of the Phoenicians voyages south.

    • @historyoftheworldpodcast5234
      @historyoftheworldpodcast5234 5 років тому +3

      This is very interesting. There would have definitely been a familiarity between the Carthaginians and the Berbers. They would have definitely been the bosses of the Berbers near to Carthage, but they would have had strong links to the Berbers at places such as Mogador too.

    • @Zebred2001
      @Zebred2001 4 роки тому +8

      Egyptian king Neco (II 609 B.C. - 594 B.C.) sends his Phoenician ships (611 B.C.) on an over two-year voyage around Africa from the Red Sea through Gibraltar then on to Egypt. See pg. 283 - 284 The Histories (Penguin Classics) Herodotus

    • @Zebred2001
      @Zebred2001 4 роки тому +2

      @Gary Daniel The whole voyage was a promotional!

  • @AncientBert
    @AncientBert 5 років тому +31

    Phoenicians are a key culture in understanding the development of our modern world. I had a wonderful time with this video this morning. I don't participate in iTunes, so having access to this History of the World podcast series here on UA-cam is very satisfying. Thanks again, Nick.

    • @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449
      @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449  5 років тому +3

      Bert Jordan I couldn’t agree with you more! Thanks for your time and your undying support and I hope that things are well with you, your family and friends!

    • @historyoftheworldpodcast5234
      @historyoftheworldpodcast5234 5 років тому +3

      Take a look around the website, Bert. There may be something there that is of use to you. historyoftheworldpodcast.com/

    • @mrmarmellow555
      @mrmarmellow555 4 роки тому +1

      True True! Any Saleman would sell*off; 'er granny for a nice ship! And and An Couple of NUBian Girlz AllRiGHT? SAY NO MORE! Tee he!! 🤔😉😻

    • @nickstrickland4751
      @nickstrickland4751 2 роки тому

      I once talked to a Dutch person and he said that the Dutch people were descendants of the Phoenicians, from Tyre

    • @alejandromadrid8075
      @alejandromadrid8075 Рік тому

      Neither the phoenicians, nor the greeks nor the romans, are key to understanding the modern world. The foundations of the modern world were set in Christian Europe, for example, the year we are in, the use of banks, shops closed on Sunday, etc...etc..etc..the whole world was shaped by Christian Europe. There, I helped you, now understand the world.

  • @Reina-in9zk
    @Reina-in9zk 5 років тому +25

    Carthage still called Carthage in Tunisia because of the strong and amazing history and culture it has. Thank you for making a part of our history clear to others.

    • @historyoftheworldpodcast5234
      @historyoftheworldpodcast5234 5 років тому +5

      As it should be. I'm absolutely fascinated by the Carthaginian harbour and naval base.

    • @Reina-in9zk
      @Reina-in9zk 5 років тому +3

      ​@@historyoftheworldpodcast5234 you should come and visit, Carthage is so amazing, also I recommend you to visit the amphitheatre of El Jem it's the second biggest amphitheatre in the world, it exists in a city called El Jem in Tunisia.

    • @6_alsw
      @6_alsw 4 роки тому +1

      Arabs ✔️

    • @primatalogico1162
      @primatalogico1162 3 роки тому +2

      @@6_alsw Arabs are completely unrelated to this !

    • @MG-xx9wk
      @MG-xx9wk 2 роки тому

      @@6_alsw Tous les envahisseurs qui peuplent l’Afrique du nord ne sont là que depuis le 6è-7è siècle de notre ère, suite à l’invasion arabo-musulmane. Les Tunisiens actuels ne connaissent rien des phéniciens , et sont étrangers à tout ce qu’ils ont trouvé en terre Carthaginoise.
      Ils peuvent prétendre être des phéniciens, sauf qu’ils ignorent complètement et paradoxalement le 1er élément basique de la culture phénicienne: L’ÉCRITURE ET LA LANGUE PHÉNICIENNE .
      C’est ça la vérité qui efface toute vos prétentions

  • @arjunchatterjee875
    @arjunchatterjee875 4 роки тому +19

    Dude this is beautifully detailed, a real pleasure to watch... I've only got to watch half of it so far but I'm really loving this episode. Thanks for taking out the time and effort to create it. ^^

    • @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449
      @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449  4 роки тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed it! And thanks for your support! For more of his work, check out The History of the World Podcast and let him know that Nick sent you his way!

    • @arjunchatterjee875
      @arjunchatterjee875 4 роки тому +1

      @@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 These are excellent resources for those who want to learn history. I've subscribed. Thanks again! AC

    • @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449
      @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449  4 роки тому +2

      Arjun Chatterjee we truly appreciate that! Thank you so much!

  • @mver191
    @mver191 4 роки тому +17

    Byblos is very interesting, since it plays a role in both the Greek and the Egyptian traditions.

  • @historyoftheworldpodcast5234
    @historyoftheworldpodcast5234 5 років тому +13

    Terrific job as ever Nick. Thank you for putting some visual guidance alongside the podcast. It really does help to illustrate the script! Warmest regards, Chris

    • @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449
      @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449  5 років тому +3

      History of the World podcast As always it’s a pleasure! I was happy to use video footage in this one and I’ll definitely be doing more in the future. You did an excellent presentation!

    • @nukelaloosh4795
      @nukelaloosh4795 5 років тому +2

      hey chris, why don't you have any content here on y/t?

    • @historyoftheworldpodcast5234
      @historyoftheworldpodcast5234 5 років тому +4

      @@nukelaloosh4795 Hello Nuke. I've really just been concentrating on the written word and audio aspect of the podcast as it is quite a new project. I'm no video producer so I'm happy to leave that kind of thing to Nick, but it's certainly not out of the question for the podcast to broaden its scope, so UA-cam watch out!

    • @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449
      @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449  5 років тому +4

      History of the World podcast I think you would do wonderfully awesome work!

    • @bethbartlett5692
      @bethbartlett5692 2 місяці тому

      ​​@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449
      DNA findings link the Phoenicians+ Canaanites as of Basque Origin. Also, the Indigenous White Berbers, People's of the Canary Islands, and the Irish.
      Irish are Gaelics not Celts, although there was the Viking and Norman Germanics (Celts possibly a specific Germanic group)
      Genetics is clarifying so much History.
      .

  • @sasachiminesh1204
    @sasachiminesh1204 4 роки тому +25

    We DO know who Phoenicians are and where they originate: Lebanon. Phoenician culture is very well evidenced in its evolution from earlier Canaanite people who are Indigenous to Lebanon and what are now Palestine and Israel. Canaanite culture is represented in continuity in that area in the archaeological record. We know that Canaanite villages became the foundation of later city states because we have the archaeological record to prove it. Those early city states began to colonize the Mediterranean in the uniquely Phoenician way . The whole effort was born from trade because Phoenicians had the best goods to sell, and one that was exclusively theirs, namely crimson cloth. Sidon and Tyre were the two city states that initiated this and those two states remained powerful until they were finally consumed by Roman hegemony. They were again powerful post-Roman collapse.

    • @alejandromadrid8075
      @alejandromadrid8075 Рік тому

      Yes, and they also sacrificed children.

    • @hhunstad2011
      @hhunstad2011 Рік тому

      ​@@alejandromadrid8075 hey Jack, not cool, don't waste your energy on comments like that, you've got to much to offer the world

    • @hhunstad2011
      @hhunstad2011 Рік тому

      Liked reading what you had to say. Thanks for sharing your insight!

    • @alejandromadrid8075
      @alejandromadrid8075 Рік тому

      @@hhunstad2011 Yes its not an easy or satisfactory to point something like that out. But we should not forget important facts about the Phoenicians religion. I am not sure if the Sumerians or Babylonians/Akkadians sacrificed their first born as a thanksgiving offering, but Greeks and Romans do record it as existing in their respective archaic history.

    • @alejandromadrid8075
      @alejandromadrid8075 Рік тому

      @Sasachiminesh, when you say they were again powerful post roman collapse, what time period are you referring to? Byzantine era? Caliphate era? Ottoman period? When? I would like to learn about this.

  • @hewhoisdom
    @hewhoisdom 3 роки тому +1

    I watch/listen to this because it covers a lot of ground in a short space of time and sticks to the subject without going on tangents. I also like that the scope is constrained enough so that the content is meaningful. Thank you - looking forward to what's next.

  • @GreyhoundsHavingFun
    @GreyhoundsHavingFun 5 років тому +7

    Thanks so much for posting this. Quite enjoyable to listen to and I really appreciate the maps!

  • @Brandazzo22
    @Brandazzo22 5 років тому +10

    great video. I was skeptical by the long intro but I regress. subscribed. welcome to my elite core of history channel collections.

  • @steelegreenland6634
    @steelegreenland6634 3 роки тому +1

    Absolutely fantastic video. The best work I’ve seen on this channel so far, thank you 🙏

  • @andrewanderson5948
    @andrewanderson5948 3 роки тому +4

    I love listening to people that knows their stuff 👍

  • @oscarsusan3834
    @oscarsusan3834 4 роки тому +1

    This Chanel made me appreciate the idea/value of primary sources for so many of my new formative ideas (what’s old is new again I might add) which I can incorporate into comedic oratory craft.The other day for example I found (on the net )letters from the time of the French Revolution ,A woman’s dinner with Napoleon,Tower of London Torture survivor and a Dragoon’s first hand account of combat at Waterloo.When you read it it’s not like what you see or hear on film which is so stereotypical that it’s bland.
    Always liked the historical stuff ,gods and mythology in my youth but never pursued it .Whats is this going to be good for in the real world?Now I know.Keep up the good work.

  • @IndigoSpeaker
    @IndigoSpeaker 3 роки тому

    thanks Nick. You've got good taste, to the point that I've probably watched videos on your channel dozens of times at the least. your work as curator and presenter here is appreciated.

  • @garrethgoodworth2494
    @garrethgoodworth2494 4 роки тому +10

    My favorite ancient civilizations!

  • @idgeofreason8630
    @idgeofreason8630 3 роки тому

    Some extended analysis of the Carthaginians and Phoenicians would always be appreciated. Thanks for existing.

  • @richardsparks7051
    @richardsparks7051 2 роки тому

    Wow ! I loved this ! So much info provided in under a hour loved all the Maps some great graphics. It’s amazing of just how much trade was going on between places . Brings me back to Bronze Age Collapse . I think so many things going on from Drought

    • @richardsparks7051
      @richardsparks7051 2 роки тому

      Plus War , Earthquakes caused trade that was being depending on caused a migration of people in search for new home . Sea Peoples just a part of everything else going on

  • @martinkudlacek9915
    @martinkudlacek9915 3 роки тому +5

    Phoenicia did not end with Persian conquest. The Persians relied on the Phoenician cities for their navy. Tyre was still a powerful city when Alexander besieged it. The Phoenician people continued on after Alexander's conquest

  • @baberos8834
    @baberos8834 Рік тому +1

    The Phoenicians or Canaanites are the ancestors of most of the the peoples of the ancient Mediterranean world especially the Eastern side: The Levant, North Africa and part of South of Europe. They didn't disappear but they remained almost the same people till modern days (there are genetic proofs), however, after hundreds of years of invasions and falling under different civilizations and eras they developed a distinct identity. The Phoenician language, Alphabet, words, nouns, all developed into Arabic (and Semitic) and Greek and Latin languages, (the Greeks adopted the Phoenician Alphabet and many Phoenician Gods and Ideas). An essential part of the culture, music and Arts etc which you see it today in the Mediterranean World and West Europe had strong roots in the Phoenician and Arab civilizations.

  • @charlesborg4552
    @charlesborg4552 5 років тому +11

    I know that we are a small Island,but you seem to have forgotten about Malta as part of the Phoenicians / Carthage.

    • @historyoftheworldpodcast5234
      @historyoftheworldpodcast5234 5 років тому +1

      Sorry!!!

    • @sbadaro
      @sbadaro 3 роки тому

      Actually the only place left in Europe where the Phoenician language is still more or less spoken, no?

    • @bullterror5
      @bullterror5 3 роки тому

      👑💜👑

    • @munihmuni8814
      @munihmuni8814 3 роки тому +3

      He forgot that the phoenicians and Cannites are the same, no?

    • @sbadaro
      @sbadaro 3 роки тому +3

      @@munihmuni8814 well... Yes and no, if you are lebanese, particularly a Christian with roots in the rugged twin mountain ranges seperating it from Syria, you would claim the phonecians as your ancestors (mostly out of spite to distinguish themselves from the Palestinians in the open plains to their south). In reality, Phoenician is no more than a dialect which is part and parcel of the Kanaanite language.

  • @amrev2.020
    @amrev2.020 4 роки тому +1

    PLEASE keep this up! Actually regarding the Herodtus account of the Phoenician's circumnav. of Africa there is an interesting part where Herod. mentions the sun rising from the wrong direction which points to the fact that the phoenicians having been in the southern hemisphere, something impossible if confined to the Mediterranean sea. This added to his description of them keeping the African continent to their right side the entire time in addition to their proven fearlessness lends good credence in my opinion.

    • @historyoftheworldpodcast5234
      @historyoftheworldpodcast5234 4 роки тому

      Yes, this is an incredibly important and valid point. I find it an absolutely mindblowing achievement when you consider the dangerousness of the waters of the open oceans, but there's no doubt that they were skilled seafarers and the logic of the statements suggest the poosibility.

  • @ImperialLegionTV
    @ImperialLegionTV 2 роки тому +3

    Firstly, it needs to be considered that during this time period the identity of city-states and nations were not entirely respective of race or ethnicity. For example; to the East in Ptolemaic Egypt, Seleucid Mesopotamia, and Bactrian Afghanistan - all of which were considered 'Hellenized' civilizations following the Achaemenid conquest of Alexander The Great and his Diadochi successors - the ethnic majorities very much remained intact.
    The masses of Seleucid Syria were very much Semitic/Persian in their customs, culture and ancestry. However, the key factor is that the ruling class/nobility of Seleucid Syria was Greek. This is important. Why? Because it is the ruling class and sovereign government that defines the people of a society in historical context. It's why the Seleucid Empire was viewed as a classical Greek state, when in reality only a minority of the society was in fact ethnically Greek.
    The same can be said for Carthage.
    The vast majority of Carthaginian civilization (which encompassed a far more diverse society than even the Diadochi states) was obviously 'indigenous'; meaning largely Libyan, Iberian, Berber, Greek and in some cases (like Alalia) Etruscan. That being said it is quite evident historically that the ruling class and nobility traced their ancestry directly back from Phoenicia in the Levant. Which was a confederation of post Bronze-Age-Collapse city-states drawing much of their direct ancestry from displaced Canaanites. In other words, not 'black' at all. The fact that the Phoenician alphabet gave way to Aramaic, Hebrew and Arab scripts is really all the evidence one needs to confirm cultural lineage to the area.
    The Suez Canal did not exist in classical antiquity. The notion of Sub-Saharan Eritreans ('black' people I suppose) sailing around the horn of Africa, up the West African coast, through Gibraltar, across Greek/Phoenician controlled waters and somehow assimilating and outright culturally dominating that ancient culture is absolutely absurd. It is also quite insulting to the already tarnished and fractured history of the Phoenicians.

  • @TheBeforewebegin
    @TheBeforewebegin 2 роки тому +1

    really going to miss you and you're content! RIP

  • @gicicemina
    @gicicemina 3 роки тому +4

    Phoenician descendants : Lebanese, Tunisians, Cypriots, Sardinians, Sicilians, Maltese.Proud of our blood

  • @jboylan6970
    @jboylan6970 4 роки тому +3

    It was supposed to have been the Phoenicians who taught the Irish how to refine gold and traded the purple dye for freshwater pearls common at the time in Irish rivers.

  • @whoops8412
    @whoops8412 3 роки тому

    I love your enthusiasm!!! Thank you for a great channel

  • @colly7963
    @colly7963 3 роки тому +3

    The Carthaginians are also commemorated in the Latin name of the pomegranate, Punica granatum, which means apple of Carthage.

  • @thescientistschurch
    @thescientistschurch 3 роки тому +2

    Fleucca ship in West Australia mesuem. Hieroglyphics, Egyptian, found in gosford NSW Australia
    Also you can follow the insignia, pottery, ship styles as the changes take place. The Star symbol, star forts, are an example. Star symbol used by multiple country's, companies today🤔

    • @musaka2022
      @musaka2022 3 роки тому

      I've tried to search for info on this to no avail , do you have any links? As an Aussie I'm fascinated. Thanks

  • @3D6Space
    @3D6Space 4 роки тому +3

    Awesome Documentary! LIKED and added to my HISTORY playlist. Thanks. Chris Hasler is fun to listen to. His cockney accent is strong, but consistent, and definitely not English, yet understandable. It's better than listening to a Klingon opera, but not as good as an Irish or better yet, an Australian accent. Let's face it. South Africans and New Zealanders are just pretenders, but Canadians claim to be the biggest drunks in the world, and they have the accent to match that claim, and of course, the Scotts have the most entertaining English accent of them all, and their frustration with Alexa is legendary. I found this video looking for info. on the "Say Pay Poes" (translated: Sea Peoples)

  • @sasachiminesh1204
    @sasachiminesh1204 4 роки тому +5

    Canaanites known as Phoenicians invented the first alphabet - their own idea. We know for sure they are Semitic because we have a ton of text in their language. Punic can be understood from modern Arabic and Hebrew, they are so closely related. It's like the writer never heard of archaeology. We have a ton of stelae and inscriptions that evidence who these people are, not to mention the Torah completely confirms all this.

  • @BrionWatling
    @BrionWatling 4 роки тому +1

    We love the lore on history .

  • @Cgl3g3nd
    @Cgl3g3nd 5 років тому +3

    They did circumnavigate Africa the reason Herodotus doubted this was because they described the way the sun looks when looking from the tip of Africa and he didn’t understand that’s how it actually looked

  • @veronicalogotheti5416
    @veronicalogotheti5416 2 роки тому

    Thank you very much

  • @karljebailey3656
    @karljebailey3656 Рік тому

    Thanks!

  • @mckfc7193
    @mckfc7193 5 років тому +9

    Basically the Romans attempted to remove them from history.

    • @tommyodonovan3883
      @tommyodonovan3883 4 роки тому +2

      There can be only ONE!... *HIGHLANDER!*

    • @alexhage8092
      @alexhage8092 3 роки тому +2

      After they taught them so much like ships and language etc... Unfortunatly yes. Humans...

    • @krakenbyte7377
      @krakenbyte7377 3 роки тому

      But failed..live long Carthage

  • @FiddlerForest
    @FiddlerForest 5 років тому +6

    That image of the evolution of the Phoenician alphabet is fantastic!

    • @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449
      @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449  5 років тому +1

      D H yeah I found the video online as a gif. Very cool!

    • @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449
      @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449  5 років тому

      Allyredstar feel free to post mainstream counter sources.

    • @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449
      @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449  5 років тому

      Allyredstar so do you actually have sources and references to validate your stance? And will you post them so we can all read them as well?

    • @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449
      @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449  5 років тому

      Allyredstar so basically you won’t post any mainstream sources and or references that validate your stance?

    • @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449
      @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449  5 років тому

      Allyredstar I’m actually talking about mainstream and credible references. Such as articles published in Journals and by Faculty members of universities and etc.

  • @theConquerersMama
    @theConquerersMama 5 років тому +4

    Yeah! Maps!
    Really enjoying it. Thank you.

  • @rigulur
    @rigulur 4 роки тому +1

    Pyrrus had a terrible habit of starting something without finishing it, and his life ended on such a sour note. Shoulda just took the throne when he had the chance.

  • @dirkdiggler3747
    @dirkdiggler3747 5 років тому +2

    Thank you sir, enjoy the videos.

  • @strongangel
    @strongangel 5 років тому +1

    Timely . enjoyed , sub'd and will look into your entire output. Many Thanks. Phoenician Script is very interesting.

    • @historyoftheworldpodcast5234
      @historyoftheworldpodcast5234 5 років тому +1

      The Phoenician script is incredibly fascinating. It's the crossroads between simple glyphic symbols and modern alphabets. A vital part of the history of writing.

  • @noureddinerezgui6996
    @noureddinerezgui6996 5 років тому +4

    still, I didn't go through the whole video, but good job man. here is a Tunisian Carthaginian man

  • @Oghar999
    @Oghar999 5 років тому +1

    Very nice podcast though and handy maps 👍🏼

  • @Sebastian_Gecko
    @Sebastian_Gecko 5 років тому +4

    HELL YEAH! Thank you

  • @justushall9634
    @justushall9634 2 роки тому +1

    25:09: Map. One tribe listed, is called Celtiberi. True to their name, they spoke a Celtic language; same with many other tribes in ancient Spain. I am planning an alternate history called CeltWorld, where the ancient Celts ar not overpowered, and Celtic languages, incl. Continental Celtic, remain widely spoken.

  • @captainskrips
    @captainskrips 5 років тому +3

    Michael Caine should be narrating more historical podcasts really

  • @mikeappleget482
    @mikeappleget482 5 років тому +6

    He mentions the Sea Peoples and the Bronze Age Collapse being in the “10th century BCE”? The Collapse happened around 1200 - 1175 BCE

    • @historyoftheworldpodcast5234
      @historyoftheworldpodcast5234 5 років тому +7

      You're absolutely correct Mike. Certainly the Near East was still reeling in the wake of the collapse during the 10th Century, but yes the 12th Century is the period of the Late Bronze Age Collapse. You're right to point this out.

  • @DanWotanBarrett
    @DanWotanBarrett 5 років тому +2

    Thanks again, bruvvah Nick. Cheers -

  • @nowthenzen
    @nowthenzen День тому

    never gonna get used to him being gone. Immortal, in an odd way.

  • @sunnydime7212
    @sunnydime7212 5 років тому +2

    Does Chris have his own you tube channel?

  • @Liphted
    @Liphted 5 років тому +4

    I'm out here camping on mount Shasta listening!!

  • @audacity5911
    @audacity5911 4 роки тому

    Awesome stuff! :D

  • @amalmc
    @amalmc 3 роки тому +1

    I don't if you have visited Lebanon before making this documentary. I would tell you there is a sarcophagus of byblos king Ahiram in the national museum of Beirut where you find on this sarcophagus of the Phoenician alphabet,

  • @walterdebnam8021
    @walterdebnam8021 4 роки тому

    I was curious about some of the styles of war, where they would have a champion from each side to fight to decide a battle and a war, rather than lose so many men and decimate the population and ruin the economy afterwards, such as they are did do in Greece. Was that prevalent all over the area or just coming from the Greek area and brought to them. David and Golioth's fight as an example.

    • @historyoftheworldpodcast5234
      @historyoftheworldpodcast5234 4 роки тому +1

      It's an interesting point, but defies logic in my mind. Some have suggested that David versus Goliath is more of a metaphoric story of the battle between the two armies of Israel and Philistia. If my land had lost a war due to my greatest warrior being defeated one-on-one by my opponents' greatest warrior, then I would come back with a whole army and reverse my nation's fortunes.

  • @dannyelkassis1466
    @dannyelkassis1466 3 роки тому +2

    Hello, I just want to tell you an info which I think it is very true. it is about the French city of Marseille. As far as we know is that this city is originally Phoenician according to its name / Marseille = Marsa El / which mean the port of El in Phoenician and El was a Phoenician God. I hope that this info can help.

  • @mauserwaffen982
    @mauserwaffen982 5 років тому +3

    You sound kind of like Dan Carlin there in the introduction!!

  • @bUwUmer1260
    @bUwUmer1260 Рік тому

    Miss this guy :(

  • @kizzabrowski9858
    @kizzabrowski9858 2 роки тому

    Cigar stays alight chain smoking was Neolithic Fire Carrying to new Camp…. Long distance Fire Carriers!

  • @lallyoisin
    @lallyoisin 4 роки тому +1

    German may not be the source of the word 'kin'
    cinn is son of fire is in old Irish and that's just one meaning. anything solar related was deleted here by our two masters.
    bel = solar deity to the celts.
    baal = phoenician solar deity.
    mull is mound or chieftain
    mull of kin tyre
    tír is land in Irish and scottish Gaelic but the people of tyre 🤔
    Tiraz was a style of embroidery in antiquity - catherginians I think.
    The main supply of garments came from Tyre in antiquity no?
    Phoenicians known for their rich colours particularly purple
    the purple dye extracted from murex snails made the phoenicians very wealthy. worth its weight in gold.
    it was used in the book of kells.
    This was work carried out in scotland or Ireland (all the one to me) - ginga ninjas
    It should also trigger a few Scott's that were the kin of Tyre. Mull of kintyre or McIntyre. The etymology of kin is mistaken. Yes, the germans have kinders but the Irish have a whole selection of cinn words and we didnt have K so it's an easy deception. It means clan, spawn or origin. Mul means mound or excellence (as in his or her excellence). maol is crown of head or chief. my name in irish is Maolalaidh. it can also mean speckled but this word is also derived from portal.
    look at the map of ireland and spot the placenames beginning with cather cathar caher cathair . cathaoir
    cathair
    a city, Irish, Early Irish cathair, Old Irish cathir
    cathair
    a chair, Irish cathaoir, Early Irish catháir
    why cheftians called them high seats maybe?
    The Greeks referred to hibernia as 'The most ancient' Greece is old as shit! why are we connecting only some dots?
    let's get the round towers dated properly. To me they're clearly pre Christian as there isn't one record in the annals of 200 sky scrapers going up! a few damaged by lightning or flood or Danes on there alright but you would think it an important event. unless of course the annals were corrupted by their 4 masters.
    who are the sunburnt people today?

  • @aeolus75
    @aeolus75 4 роки тому +1

    In Greek mythology, Europa was a Phoenician princess. Europe was named after her.

    • @primatalogico1162
      @primatalogico1162 3 роки тому +1

      As well as other countries whose names have Phoenician origin such as Spain, Britain,... as well as the possibility of Africa being amongst them too !

  • @saigonmonopoly1105
    @saigonmonopoly1105 2 роки тому

    HAND TO HAND COMBAT

  • @l0new0lf000
    @l0new0lf000 4 роки тому

    Such a loooooooooong intro. Said "ladies and gentlemen" three times!

  • @JungleJargon
    @JungleJargon 3 роки тому

    Israel, to this day, has a huge slab of glass in Beth She'arim somewhere in Galilee.

  • @stevee5598
    @stevee5598 3 роки тому

    I feel like the part of history when Phoenicia becomes Carthage is almost unwritten about in history. It’s just one day a Phoenician colony becomes Carthage and that’s it!

    • @krift1716
      @krift1716 2 роки тому

      Carthage comes from the words Carta Hague (bad spelling) it means New City/land. The phoenicians founded Thonis (as in Thonis Heracleon now under the waters north of egypt). Over 5000 years ago. When they were kicked out of Thonis after they founded egypt under King Menes (who was born in Thonis). They named the "New City" Thonis, or Tunisia. However everyone just started calling New Thonis, The New City. Or Carthage. That's the very simplified version atleast.

  • @masada2828
    @masada2828 3 роки тому

    Luv ur books, very impressive.

  • @AnnhilateTheNihilist
    @AnnhilateTheNihilist 5 років тому +5

    Does that make Canaan the barbarian?

  • @virgiljjacas3955
    @virgiljjacas3955 5 років тому +5

    The term " Phoenicia " is a Greek term.

  • @sasachiminesh1204
    @sasachiminesh1204 4 роки тому +2

    Phoenicians predate the Greek colonial expansion, duh. The first Greek colony near Phoenicians is where the Greeks picked up the alphabet. Akko, Tyre, Sidon were all powerful before the Egyptians conquered them. This is very badly researched. This narrator knows nothing about archaeology. Even the Torah reports that Canaanites were well established when Abraham came west. Canaanites are Indigenous to the Levant. We have deep archaeology showing that.

  • @elysianfields6350
    @elysianfields6350 5 років тому

    Naval based empires (carthaginians. British, et al) seem to always fail to proximity land based systems (egyptians. Persians, Romans, mongols, etc.)

    • @historyoftheworldpodcast5234
      @historyoftheworldpodcast5234 5 років тому

      What do you believe to be the reasons for this?

    • @elysianfields6350
      @elysianfields6350 5 років тому +1

      podcasts simple answer is water logistics. Water has always been the greatest barrier..ask Xerxes, Alexander, Mark Anthony, Churchill. Next is altitude, i.e., mountains/cold (hard water) ask Hitler and Napoleon. Next is forests (wet/humid)...ask Varus, Genghis and Jayavarman VII
      Couple water with universally, incompetent leadership and you have pyrrhic aporia.

  • @BuyingSpace
    @BuyingSpace 4 роки тому +1

    Sir Walter Raleigh brought back tobacco from the colonies to England. He was in his home smoking and his servant freaked out and poured a bucket of water over him. He thought his head was on fire. 😂 So smoking must have been unknown to common people in England at that time.

    • @NormBoyle
      @NormBoyle 3 роки тому

      See this video of cannabis residue on a jewish temple alter south of Jerusalem. ua-cam.com/video/Fv5gk9OYAPg/v-deo.html cannabis was known already, but in the east. Canaanites and skythians of Ukraine both used it. Tobacco was only in americas.

  • @skipjackjohnson5528
    @skipjackjohnson5528 4 роки тому +2

    I wonder if the minoans had an influence on early phoenician people.

    • @paulsmith-gi5vm
      @paulsmith-gi5vm 4 роки тому

      More likely the other way around. It is known the Minoans traded with Egypt and the eastern mediterranean. They also raised, harvested, and traded murex purple fabric dye en mass for bronze manufacturing resouces copper and tin.
      ua-cam.com/video/6VMhR6fpC-E/v-deo.html

    • @Sami00888
      @Sami00888 4 роки тому +1

      The origin of the Phoenicians from the Arabian Peninsula migrated to Lebanon and then to North Africa This is what the father of history, Herodotus, Strabo, and others said They are not sucking Search well paul smith

    • @paulsmith-gi5vm
      @paulsmith-gi5vm 4 роки тому

      @@Sami00888 ?

    • @Sami00888
      @Sami00888 4 роки тому

      ما الامر !!!؟؟🤐@@paulsmith-gi5vm

    • @paulsmith-gi5vm
      @paulsmith-gi5vm 4 роки тому

      @@Sami00888 اعتقدت أن تأثير الفينيقيين على المينويين أكثر من تأثير المينويين على الفينيقيين وقد قدمت مصدري لهذا السبب.

  • @cmasterson
    @cmasterson 3 роки тому

    I talked like this to my wife and she laughed and slapped me. Lmao.

  • @aspiceoflife
    @aspiceoflife 5 років тому +4

    When I think of Phoenicians I think of Phonetics. Any similarities?

    • @historyoftheworldpodcast5234
      @historyoftheworldpodcast5234 5 років тому +1

      I think that this is coincidence, but who am I to say so? You are certainly not the first person to bring this up, so it deserves further discussion.

    • @ninjareflex
      @ninjareflex 4 роки тому +2

      Not a coincidence. They (jews) are the controllers of trade and creators of our modern English language and governmental institutions. Phoenicians=phonetic=phony, currencies = sea current, your birth=berth place, is your country's citizen"ship", "off shore "banks" ..learn about etymology and you'll see what I mean and beyond...

    • @historyoftheworldpodcast5234
      @historyoftheworldpodcast5234 4 роки тому

      You have me a bit here due to things that I have learned. I might have missed your point about Jews creating our modern English language, as it doesn't appear to be logical that Semites created English. The words "Phoenician" and "phonetic" eminate from the Indo-European Ancient Greek to my knowledge, so I'm confused about the links to Jewish etymologies.

    • @ljones7293
      @ljones7293 4 роки тому +1

      The Phoenicians invented the first alphabet, hence 'phonetics'. Being traders with an expanding industry, the Phoenicians needed a method to keep record and index of their trade stock: inventing an alphabet was the answer.

    • @dannyelkassis1466
      @dannyelkassis1466 3 роки тому

      Phonetics is derived from Phoenicians, which is the voice of their alphabet/ les voyelles in french / the A/E/U/I/O/Y.

  • @TheKsk1997
    @TheKsk1997 4 роки тому

    I rather like the intro, well done!

  • @tombrown9460
    @tombrown9460 2 роки тому

    Tell me, how excellent is it?

  • @stevenwallace5456
    @stevenwallace5456 3 роки тому

    Please cover the Volcae

  • @malekaltayari3936
    @malekaltayari3936 3 роки тому +5

    As a Tunisian I want to tell you that Carthage is not Phoenician colony . And Phoenicians is a Greek name. We call them the Canaanites.the real story is We the Berbers the original North African people a Canaanite merchants came to us from the east and merged with us in this land and we became a civilization and the first naval fleet in the Mediterranean. Our civilization included peoples from Sicily and Iberia as well. We, the Carthaginians, knew our trade methods, and we were the first to leave the Mediterranean to the African coast in the south. Our sailing and trading with the peoples of Britain included our history, unfortunately forgotten

    • @freepagan
      @freepagan 10 місяців тому

      You are hilarious. Carthage was established by Lebanese people, aka the Phoenicians.

  • @franciscofranco4520
    @franciscofranco4520 3 роки тому +1

    Are you Holly, the computer, from Red Dwarf?

  • @kkkkkkkkkkk6313
    @kkkkkkkkkkk6313 4 роки тому +2

    The phoenician history goes on after the Fall of carthage tyros and the Rest of the libanon. When will you Talk about the eastphoenicians under persian ans trek rue till Roman rulership?

    • @historyoftheworldpodcast5234
      @historyoftheworldpodcast5234 4 роки тому

      Yes, you are absolutely right. Just because a land is conquered, certainly doesn't mean that the ancient bloodlines disappear. Phoenicians would have surely lived on through Persian and Hellenistic times.

    • @peterzapfl7439
      @peterzapfl7439 Рік тому

      @CARTHAGETUNISIAHANNIBAL OK. Dumber IS Not possible. I gues. First of all. I m very Well wäre how Mandy carthages exist and never Said that there are more than one. Saying I die IT IS dumb. I also never Said that there Had ever Bern a Nation called phynica. Saying that ist dumb. However First of all. IT dies Not Matter If the Story ist true. Karthager starten as a collony of tyre and became Independent. Same language, culture Religion. Karthager worschipped Melcard the legendäre cityfounder of tyre. Tyre was and Always Had Ben the Most powerfull easternphoenician City collonized cyprus and was the only City having the resources to collonice. Allessa or Not. Box the way. Here Name was Dido Not allessa. WE have Not much information about easternphoenica. WE know at least in the time of 1000 bc IT was all conquerred by tyre. So the was at least a Shirt time in WHO h an easternphoenician Empire existed. Controller Not bei another City called carthages but by tyre. Period. WE so Not know If this Empire Fall appart later. However whenever someone wanted to conquer this areas the conquerer came for tyre and when tyre was conquerred the war was over. Which seems that this easternphoenician Empire survived for a very Long Time under assyrian, Babylonien, greek and Roman overlordship. And Eve more impotent. I m Well wäre that there was No country colled phoenica. I never Said this. Saying I die IS dumb. A civilisation dies Not necessarily have to bei a Nation. IT can alsobe a feudal organised Organisation that makes ITS own rules. We dont know much about tyre. However WE know that when rome conquerred something IT Dido Not necessarily romanive it. Sometimes they allowed the people to stay officially Independent as vasalstate, that pays Tribute. Judea for example was a vasalstate. Sparte, after the conquest of greece stayed officially Independent and even florrished. Tyre was the Leader of a coalition of 5 phoenician citystates under Roman overlordship and this lege of 5 we're still phoenicians. IT was the Rest of the easternphoenician empire. This Changes in the Seconds half of of the Seconds ventury after christ. This was the time of the end of the phoenicians. 300 years after carthages Fell.

  • @dr.barrycohn5461
    @dr.barrycohn5461 3 роки тому

    The story of coffee is fascinating. Perhaps a podest topic.

  • @alexhage8092
    @alexhage8092 3 роки тому +2

    🇱🇧💜🇱🇧💜🇱🇧💜🇱🇧💜🇱🇧

  • @columbasaint465
    @columbasaint465 3 роки тому +1

    Is there any way you could tell us how to get the history content from the English narrator without having to put up with you using this channel to post your political ideology?

  • @rbenm
    @rbenm 4 роки тому +2

    It's an underground society. Carthage and the farmers continued underground in a 3D world and once In a while pop up in the mountains to leave magical art. They've had granite generated electricity for thousands of years. Check my videos it al starts with Hannibal and the Punic wars. He went to Italy to stall the army there so Hannibal could make a map of the Mediterranean sea and on his way left a one million stone to fuvk with the Romans in baalbeek cause Hannibal knew the Romans claimed Greek architecture by building tempels in top. On his way home he met up with khufu and made a deal. One gets a pyramid the other 10 thousands of his most valuable people for the new society. The inside of khufu is the beginning of the underground granite world, between the gallery walls is blockplanet. Where you are waitless cause you're going down. Hannibal and khufu kept word and after the last FARAO died the farmers teachers and doctors abandoned the gizeh plateau and went underground. Hannibal left a stone undug for the later FARAO he didn't like so much. 1000 ton just like the stone he left undug in baalbeek and just like the obelisk he did erect for khufu. He also left a stone with "translation" to fuck us. He the shaped Italy like a boot like it's kicking the ball to cartage. And left for Jordan with his new society before spreading out in the world eventually shipping to South America where they dominated the continent for a while. I made a scetch of the machine used to tunnel trough ground in granite box that gets dragged on the floor creating friction for the machine. Talking about climate friendly. Anyways hope you check out my vids. And it was also gravity that build the pyramids of Gizeh. the architect created three pyramids next to eachother and recreated the floors downwards. so you attach a two ton stone to another two ton stone on the other side, than they they become weightless. If you want one up, add some small weights on the other side just like on a wait scale and you have the stones drag eachother up, left right left right. No aliens or slaves. Just brains and ancient digging technology. Check out my vids for clear explanation with pictures.

  • @konohatvnetwork
    @konohatvnetwork 5 років тому +3

    Phoenicians, Carthiginians and Canaanites ALL had skin tones that looked like copper pennies

    • @danyelahtabaat4808
      @danyelahtabaat4808 5 років тому

      They were black

    • @matiusbond6052
      @matiusbond6052 5 років тому

      @@danyelahtabaat4808 YES THEY WERE BLACK AND ALL THE TRUTHS ARE COMING OUT

    • @Tomas-ml9nv
      @Tomas-ml9nv 4 роки тому +6

      We wuz KANGZ 😂

    • @MegaBaddog
      @MegaBaddog 4 роки тому +1

      FROM WHICH SOURCE?

    • @Sami00888
      @Sami00888 4 роки тому

      Their skin is white and tends to be red like the Arabs Because they are from the Arabian Peninsula and they are the ancestors of the present Arabs KonohaTV Network

  • @benquinney2
    @benquinney2 4 роки тому +1

    The rise and sinking of Atlantis

  • @staticdynamic1605
    @staticdynamic1605 4 роки тому +1

    another good'n

  • @s.l.2227
    @s.l.2227 4 роки тому

    I guess 5 links is a variety.

  • @juniorberns
    @juniorberns 4 роки тому +1

    Tartus? omg, need I say more?

  • @hanikaram3351
    @hanikaram3351 4 роки тому +1

    The Phoenicians also were friends with the Egyptians not just subjugated by them they had similar things in common and the Phoenicians needed the Egyptian special cloth (i forgotten the name ) for their ships and the ropes also from Egypt . The Pharaoh also organized several trips using the Phoenicians i forgotten which one we studied about him in public school overseas . later i will reveal a huge connection between Phoenicians and Etruscan and the Phoenix Myth , i had revealed it three times before elsewhere

    • @Marshall_Stacks
      @Marshall_Stacks 10 місяців тому

      Ha. You seem to do a lot of forgetting for an expert.

  • @yacinezaier9641
    @yacinezaier9641 Рік тому

    Great video despite the error of assuming that the Phoenicians established Carthage and sailed around the Africain Atlantic coast ( based on historians who replicate old theories without real and profound research on the subject ) , this assumption is unfortunately wrong , we as modern Carthaginians have always claimed that we were not Phoenicians but to no avail since all the historical references which were mainly Greek of Romains were of hostile background due to wars between these three civilisations , but today with the fast growing genomic sciences and the DNA tests that local people are making we seldom find any traces of middle eastern genes in our DNA , we find Iberian or Italian traces but no significant middle eastern traces and if they were found they would be small and due mainly to the Arab invasion in the 7th century onwards , before this evidence of DNA came up recently we established our theory on the fact of the major difference between the way Carthaginians lived and the Phoenicians , Carthaginians were warriors
    but Phoenicians weren't, the warring tradition is a local aspect of the inhabitants of this land who we believe learned sailing and building ships from the few Phoenicians ( since they don't have any trace of their DNA in our blood today ) who settled in Utique and other settlements and not a migration in large numbers as it should be to the extent to say that they erected one of the most powerful civilisations of antiquity , the idea of this comment is to say that we are working on new information that will be established once the work is done and this will significantly change the history of Carthage that was written by its destructors the Romans .

    • @chrisnewbury3793
      @chrisnewbury3793 Рік тому

      Because the original Phoenicians originally came from Ireland. Canaan was just one of their colonies.

  • @hidden6ix742
    @hidden6ix742 4 роки тому

    so where do the pheonicians and the irish merge

  • @thescientistschurch
    @thescientistschurch 3 роки тому

    Conch shell. Signs for caninites Royal colour purple. Held past resets information. Antiquitech.
    750bc big catastrophic event

  • @gruboniell4189
    @gruboniell4189 4 роки тому

    Translated Egyptian hiraglyphs in Gosford nsw Australia

  • @gabrielalexanderkhoury73
    @gabrielalexanderkhoury73 4 роки тому +3

    The first experience of alcohol may have been from fermented fruit falling off trees.

  • @JungleJargon
    @JungleJargon 3 роки тому

    So were the Phoenicians named after the dye or was the dye associated with the Phoenicians to the point that it became the color of the dye? The reason I ask is because Phut was the father of the Phoenicians and Canaan was the father of the Canaanites. These people also have a distinct Y chromosome of their place in the same family tree both being descendants of Ham the son of Noah. I know people's mind blanks out whenever Noah is mentioned. It happens to be what the evidence, DNA evidence, is.

    • @JungleJargon
      @JungleJargon 3 роки тому +1

      @Ramona Rael Semitic people are from the son of Noah.

    • @JungleJargon
      @JungleJargon Рік тому

      @CARTHAGETUNISIAHANNIBAL It was the Phoenicians who controlled Mediterranean travel and trade. When Rome became a problem for them their last resort was to flee to Carthage which was where their last stand was.

  • @Oghar999
    @Oghar999 5 років тому +2

    That intro nearly drove me of... Why the enormous drama?

  • @sunnydime7212
    @sunnydime7212 5 років тому

    The Fukuyamans lol the way he says it 😂

  • @michaelmoore4043
    @michaelmoore4043 5 років тому +6

    Where is the jewish wars by Josephus.anyway nice video

    • @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449
      @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449  5 років тому +3

      Hey thanks for commenting and showing your support! Since my channel is monetized I removed all videos that could experience copyright issues, however I am in the process of eventually creating the public domain version into an audiobook, the only downside is that it takes quite a bit of time.

    • @michaelmoore4043
      @michaelmoore4043 5 років тому +2

      @@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 oh thank you hope your channel grows

    • @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449
      @studyofantiquityandthemidd4449  5 років тому

      I forgot to mention if you have audible the professional one is on there as well!

    • @michaelmoore4043
      @michaelmoore4043 5 років тому

      @@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 ok

  • @TheLionFarm
    @TheLionFarm 3 роки тому

    18:35

  • @dr.barrycohn5461
    @dr.barrycohn5461 3 роки тому +1

    Nice presentation. Narrator sounds a bit like Winston Churchill. The smoking comment is like anything else...discovered by accident.

    • @2msvalkyrie529
      @2msvalkyrie529 3 роки тому

      Sounds more like Dick van Dyck
      in Mary Poppins..
      Eyenshent.....!?!? Dreadful.