I studied wing chun for a couple years but I've never seen these applications or explanations. This video and the other demonstrating the before, after, and during approach of Pak Sao are amazing and have given me a fresh persepective on these techniques.
Did a ton of this in Arnis. Various versions from the outside and inside with different striking angles targeting and follow up movements. Footwork is important. I’ve seen pro fighters use variations of this.
I’ve used this technique in live sparring the angle is off line of the opponents attack and you can use the bong sau as a destruction as well when you are being attacked his fist will run into your elbow
@@axelstone3131wingchun is great for defense. But the counter attacks are weak. This martial art is just specialization in parrying. It has its advantages and its limitations as well. But then again so does everything else. Intercepting a attack is advantageous for certain conditions. The obvious is it allows transition to grappling. The most efficient use of wingchun are these techniques. Which is why they are used by law enforcement. The other aspect is that it's a great skill to have when defending yourself against knife attacks. This interception of the attack is used in Filipino knife martial arts all the time. I also see a lot of value in training this way, for improving reaction and coordination. In a area where your opponent has his back against the wall and you are both very close. You would dominate him with this style.
Because you can follow through with a grapple or a strike, it trains you to block then strike. Or better yet, block and strike at the same time. Notice how fast he strikes after blocking, as though it is one solid movement. JKD was made for bare knuckle street fighters.
Note: Brian is not being a good training partner because his punches are not aimed at the target. Rather, they are aimed where they would end up once the bong sau is applied. An easy mistake to make, but if repeated over time, it becomes a bad habit and no good for anyone.
Great stuff, but when showing how to do the technique properly you should do it much slower, instead of just exploding with speed. The hands are quicker than the eyes.
Doing it slower would demonstrate how ineffective it is. This is just sloppy fight choreography. The other applications are almost elbows or Philly shell defense. Watch a real Wing Chun practitioner instead of “JKD” because it was used more as an energy drill than actual application in the curriculum.
What I like to do is fight out of a mother and son setting to go in loaded. Using two hands in to split the arms up with more actions and shifting. Always two elbows in and two hands inside and out. Fencing the hands from further away would be my VIPER KUEN method. Staying further away and landing heavy while being loose and fluffy.” 😉💯☑️😎that PAK DA to BUI GUA was sick. #sifusingh ❤referring to 1. STAYING FURTHER OUT line one being the attack limb hand arm. 2. ISOLATION begins while facing. My left lead on a righty. My left threads through the wrist to the outside closest eye on that right side. Over his hand. Now my right rear hand goes inside up the sleeve and we end on a left lead. 💡😎👈🏻💯outside entry goes inside and back outside.” ❤
you only back fist so its easy to defend. you use your shoulder more the your elbow. your stance has to much weight forward. the lap sao should disrupt your opponent. your just trying to look like Bruce, Like water..
'The flowing transitional BONG SAU' eh ? ......Try that if you are a 120 lb guy and the guy you are doing it on is a 6ft 4 260 lb guy......Is this another Tommy story ? ......Hopefully Mr. Gilmore hasn't invented ANOTHER one...
I think he did a great job of explaining the application and the shape of the bong sao in a real situation. At the end of the video he uses it in the basic form of defense without turning it into an offense
It has NEVER (EVER) worked in a REAL FIGHT. And I train/Instruct JKD. But I’m sick of the BS movie Ip-man stories. Bruce moved AWAY from WC (FACT!) once he had REAL FIGHTS! (This JKD & his growing obsession with Ali & Western Boxing)
@@MasterSly10 yes and you believe in leprechauns with a pot of Gold at the end of the rainbow and a genie 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Unless you are iron Mike Tyson, this would take most boxers out before they start swinging
@@MikeReplukJKD evolved from 1967. By the 70’s JKD according to Inosanto, “Looked more like kickboxing” and it has hardly any wing chun, some people say none at all. Bruce found more effective and streamlined methods. By 1971 he took trapping and chi sao out of the curriculum and stopped doing it himself around 1968/1969. He went beyond technique. All these guys are stuck in the 60’s training an outdated curriculum Bruce stopped teaching and moved beyond.
@@axelstone3131@axelstone3131 JKD is subjective, and if you look at the Paul Vunak camp, wing Chun is very much the core concept. I have trained with many JKDers and Wing Chun is still an active part of the art
Wrong, Bruce Lee just stopped teaching hand trapping to all the newer guys. He was still doing chi sao and teaching basic trapping in 1968 and 1969 with Joe Lewis. Wing Chun is a huge part of JKD. Not everything, but it's still important. Apparently you've never did a pak da on an opponent in live sparring.
@@MikeReplukno. This is the problem. When Bruce taught JKD it was JKD. Now thanks to all this “interpretation” nonsense nobody knows what JKD is anymore. Vanuk employs no JKD principles in his supposed “interpretation” of JKD. JKD has a strong emphasis on mobility, fencing principles and footwork as well as primary targets, eyes, groin etc. JKD works because of the principles and the footwork. Vanuk doesn’t utilise JKD footwork or principles, therefore none of these “concepts” guys look like a JKD practitioner because they aren’t doing JKD. This is NOT Bruce Lee’s JKD. This is some sort of Filipino/mma wing chun hybrid system Inosanto teaches and passes off as JKD “concepts” “JKD concepts” did not exist when Bruce was around because it wasn’t a thing. Bruce’s method has structure, specific footwork to get in and out fast, its own principles (which are similar to wing chun) but the application is completely different, and the progressive weapons chart which is longest weapon to nearest target, and what tool (punch/kick etc) to use given the distance. JKD is NOT wing chun. Bruce moved past all this. This is stuff Bruce abandoned. He found more simple, direct and efficient methods and his training outside of martial arts training, such as isometrics, callisthenics, etc gave him the power, speed and explosive ability to pull it off. There is almost nobody that trains like Bruce did, so they never develop the attributes like Bruce did to be able to effectively use JKD as Bruce did. So what you have is guys like this. Concepts guys, practicing some sort of wing chun/kali hybrid system than bears little resemblance to anything Bruce did or taught later on. The majority of people have no idea what JKD even is. This false narrative it’s a bunch of mixed arts cobbled together into some sort of system that has no real structure and is a complete mess lacking any sort of simplicity or directness or that it’s “just a name” or it can be “whatever you want it to be” is complete bs. Or that it’s just Bruce’s “interpretation of wing chun” is nonsense. Bruce started modifying his wing chun the moment he got off the boat in America. “People fail to realize Bruce moved beyond technique. Once you understand the goal is to hit primary targets in the shortest time possible. All the fluff can be cut away. So you don't have to learn new techniques. You find better safer direct and indirect ways to attack these points. The rest of your time is spent training your body to refine this process. Tommy has shown us the way. I want to do my best to display the art the way Bruce intended it to be.” - John Paul Daily JKD instructor “The majority of people who practice Jeet Kune Do are mixed up, they think it should be a part of Wing Chun, a part of MMA, a part of Thai boxing, a part of wrestling, you know, a part of Wing Chun, which this is completely incorrect. You don't go from style to style, you go from distance to target or target to distance. Longest weapon to the nearest target and the most direct and efficient route possible, that is Jeet Kune Do.” - Tommy Carruthers JKD instructor You shook look him up. He teaches JKD the way Bruce practised it.
Why, so they can murder all the Jews? We both know if the wall around Gaza came down, who would be initiating the carnage. The Palestinians suffering is their own fault for supporting Hamas, instead of trying to live in peace. This is supposed to be a martial arts and self defense channel, not a political channel, show some respect.
Hahahahaaaaaaaa so your admitting your way Is wrong?? Your way ain’t right or wrong, it’s bullshit, if a man with skills attacked you with combos this rubbish would not work and you know it
I've long loved the Bong Sao and used it for years.
On dummy’s?
Pugay, Sifu. At last, a clear definition I can understand the application of Bong Sao.
I studied wing chun for a couple years but I've never seen these applications or explanations. This video and the other demonstrating the before, after, and during approach of Pak Sao are amazing and have given me a fresh persepective on these techniques.
Did a ton of this in Arnis. Various versions from the outside and inside with different striking angles targeting and follow up movements. Footwork is important. I’ve seen pro fighters use variations of this.
Love this sifu!!! Shows a true way of bringing the art into practical use
Great coverage of the various potential applications of the Bong Sau . Never heard this before. Love it.
I’ve used this technique in live sparring the angle is off line of the opponents attack and you can use the bong sau as a destruction as well when you are being attacked his fist will run into your elbow
Once you strike you can follow through with a hold or a grapple.
Proper framing!
I'm absolutely knackered just watching this!
Thanks excellent instruction.
Well explained
1. Attacker moves in
2. Snap fist to attacker's' face
3. Follow up with quick chop to neck
4. Complete move with crushing blow to windpipe.
#5 you wake up in a wet spot..
Impressive
1:17 Why waste time blocking before you strike?
These guys can’t move past wing chun
@@axelstone3131wingchun is great for defense. But the counter attacks are weak. This martial art is just specialization in parrying. It has its advantages and its limitations as well. But then again so does everything else.
Intercepting a attack is advantageous for certain conditions. The obvious is it allows transition to grappling. The most efficient use of wingchun are these techniques. Which is why they are used by law enforcement.
The other aspect is that it's a great skill to have when defending yourself against knife attacks. This interception of the attack is used in Filipino knife martial arts all the time. I also see a lot of value in training this way, for improving reaction and coordination. In a area where your opponent has his back against the wall and you are both very close. You would dominate him with this style.
there will not always be times to strike. there's time's where you jam up, or there's times to mix it up and not do the same thing all the time.
Because you can follow through with a grapple or a strike, it trains you to block then strike. Or better yet, block and strike at the same time. Notice how fast he strikes after blocking, as though it is one solid movement. JKD was made for bare knuckle street fighters.
@@jkdfighter4964 you “jam up” you disengage. Next time don’t go spreading likes and fabricating bullshit you can’t back up.
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Bong Sao its quick ,its hard and it strike like a cobra and the surprise element I wouldn't want to end of it !!
Hits from the Bong.....Sau. Make Gung fu great again!
Flow like water. Thank you, Sifu.
I like this cause it's boxing and no kicking
Note: Brian is not being a good training partner because his punches are not aimed at the target. Rather, they are aimed where they would end up once the bong sau is applied. An easy mistake to make, but if repeated over time, it becomes a bad habit and no good for anyone.
Can we see you do this in the ring with a professional boxer?
Master
Don't know why, but I can hear the muk yun whenever I see the bong sau.
Better direct albow strike on punch.knuckle will be stud..
Great stuff, but when showing how to do the technique properly you should do it much slower, instead of just exploding with speed. The hands are quicker than the eyes.
Doing it slower would demonstrate how ineffective it is. This is just sloppy fight choreography. The other applications are almost elbows or Philly shell defense. Watch a real Wing Chun practitioner instead of “JKD” because it was used more as an energy drill than actual application in the curriculum.
But if you step to the blind side while executing a bong sau you wont be overwhelemed.
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Technically you could use bong sao in boxing.
Can be modified to hit the neck😅
What I like to do is fight out of a mother and son setting to go in loaded. Using two hands in to split the arms up with more actions and shifting. Always two elbows in and two hands inside and out. Fencing the hands from further away would be my VIPER KUEN method. Staying further away and landing heavy while being loose and fluffy.” 😉💯☑️😎that PAK DA to BUI GUA was sick. #sifusingh ❤referring to 1. STAYING FURTHER OUT line one being the attack limb hand arm. 2. ISOLATION begins while facing. My left lead on a righty. My left threads through the wrist to the outside closest eye on that right side. Over his hand. Now my right rear hand goes inside up the sleeve and we end on a left lead. 💡😎👈🏻💯outside entry goes inside and back outside.” ❤
Bruce lee main person actor
Slow down with the moves ..so I know how to do it ..
Go to settings and slow down the speed
@@joeprime1164 which setting
Slow down sir..
Left hook right hand drops you
Very hard to do. If someone nos how to box. I mean really no hows to box. This sort of thing dont work very well. And believe me I've tried.
Very true. But notice he says in the video that this is a training exercise to keep you from getting overwhelmed by rapid succession of punches.
Nice video however, when your opponent is throwing a jab, he’s leaving his right hand down
this is look wing chun
that move look legitimate, but seem like it would work well against skilled fighter
Uppercut and you don’t have to waste you time 😂😂 blocking his jab
you only back fist so its easy to defend. you use your shoulder more the your elbow. your stance has to much weight forward. the lap sao should disrupt your opponent. your just trying to look like Bruce, Like water..
'The flowing transitional BONG SAU' eh ? ......Try that if you are a 120 lb guy and the guy you are doing it on is a 6ft 4 260 lb guy......Is this another Tommy story ? ......Hopefully Mr. Gilmore hasn't invented ANOTHER one...
Scroll down to my comment. Some moron making up more fake stories about Tommy getting beat up by nobody else the no name
Now show the footage of this used in a real fight against a solid opponent. In a drill ANYTHING works.
I think he did a great job of explaining the application and the shape of the bong sao in a real situation. At the end of the video he uses it in the basic form of defense without turning it into an offense
It has NEVER (EVER) worked in a REAL FIGHT. And I train/Instruct JKD. But I’m sick of the BS movie Ip-man stories. Bruce moved AWAY from WC (FACT!) once he had REAL FIGHTS! (This JKD & his growing obsession with Ali & Western Boxing)
try this against a real boxer just for fun
It works, clearly you don’t understand the speed and strength here, the boxer will not see anything coming as if try to strike
What do you mean by a real boxer??? This will take anyone out instantly, you can block an attack and strike like lightning with this!
😂😂😂😂 you believe in unicorn
@@MasterSly10 yes and you believe in leprechauns with a pot of Gold at the end of the rainbow and a genie 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Unless you are iron Mike Tyson, this would take most boxers out before they start swinging
@@ShadowsOfTheBeast1 it's obvious that your not a fighter and you watch too many movies
How about sparring with Jeff chan? Then i believe you.
How about you not subscribing instead? To offer sarcasm out of earning attention displays your stupidity.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This guy can not fight.
@@brucele2776 😂 so nothing to be afraid of. Do it.
@@redeyezgenoc2346 he is only look good in demo with his partner. Imagine him in a fight vs paquiao, loma, mayweather and other pro boxer.
Find Sifu Sing and challenge him then. See how that works out for ya.
Wing chun. Not JKD.
Wong Chun is a core concept for jkd
@@MikeReplukJKD evolved from 1967. By the 70’s JKD according to Inosanto,
“Looked more like kickboxing” and it has hardly any wing chun, some people say none at all. Bruce found more effective and streamlined methods. By 1971 he took trapping and chi sao out of the curriculum and stopped doing it himself around 1968/1969. He went beyond technique.
All these guys are stuck in the 60’s training an outdated curriculum Bruce stopped teaching and moved beyond.
@@axelstone3131@axelstone3131 JKD is subjective, and if you look at the Paul Vunak camp, wing Chun is very much the core concept. I have trained with many JKDers and Wing Chun is still an active part of the art
Wrong, Bruce Lee just stopped teaching hand trapping to all the newer guys. He was still doing chi sao and teaching basic trapping in 1968 and 1969 with Joe Lewis. Wing Chun is a huge part of JKD. Not everything, but it's still important. Apparently you've never did a pak da on an opponent in live sparring.
@@MikeReplukno. This is the problem.
When Bruce taught JKD it was JKD. Now thanks to all this “interpretation” nonsense nobody knows what JKD is anymore. Vanuk employs no JKD principles in his supposed “interpretation” of JKD. JKD has a strong emphasis on mobility, fencing principles and footwork as well as primary targets, eyes, groin etc. JKD works because of the principles and the footwork. Vanuk doesn’t utilise JKD footwork or principles, therefore none of these “concepts” guys look like a JKD practitioner because they aren’t doing JKD. This is NOT Bruce Lee’s JKD. This is some sort of Filipino/mma wing chun hybrid system Inosanto teaches and passes off as JKD “concepts” “JKD concepts” did not exist when Bruce was around because it wasn’t a thing.
Bruce’s method has structure, specific footwork to get in and out fast, its own principles (which are similar to wing chun) but the application is completely different, and the progressive weapons chart which is longest weapon to nearest target, and what tool (punch/kick etc) to use given the distance. JKD is NOT wing chun.
Bruce moved past all this.
This is stuff Bruce abandoned. He found more simple, direct and efficient methods and his training outside of martial arts training, such as isometrics, callisthenics, etc gave him the power, speed and explosive ability to pull it off. There is almost nobody that trains like Bruce did, so they never develop the attributes like Bruce did to be able to effectively use JKD as Bruce did.
So what you have is guys like this. Concepts guys, practicing some sort of wing chun/kali hybrid system than bears little resemblance to anything Bruce did or taught later on.
The majority of people have no idea what JKD even is. This false narrative it’s a bunch of mixed arts cobbled together into some sort of system that has no real structure and is a complete mess lacking any sort of simplicity or directness or that it’s “just a name” or it can be “whatever you want it to be” is complete bs. Or that it’s just Bruce’s “interpretation of wing chun” is nonsense.
Bruce started modifying his wing chun the moment he got off the boat in America.
“People fail to realize Bruce moved beyond technique. Once you understand the goal is to hit primary targets in the shortest time possible. All the fluff can be cut away. So you don't have to learn new techniques.
You find better safer direct and indirect ways to attack these points. The rest of your time is spent training your body to refine this process. Tommy has shown us the way. I want to do my best to display the art the way Bruce intended it to be.” - John Paul Daily JKD instructor
“The majority of people who practice Jeet Kune Do are mixed up, they think it should be a part of Wing Chun, a part of MMA, a part of Thai boxing, a part of wrestling, you know, a part of Wing Chun, which this is completely incorrect. You don't go from style to style, you go from distance to target or target to distance. Longest weapon to the nearest target and the most direct and efficient route possible, that is Jeet Kune Do.”
- Tommy Carruthers JKD instructor
You shook look him up. He teaches JKD the way Bruce practised it.
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Why, so they can murder all the Jews? We both know if the wall around Gaza came down, who would be initiating the carnage. The Palestinians suffering is their own fault for supporting Hamas, instead of trying to live in peace. This is supposed to be a martial arts and self defense channel, not a political channel, show some respect.
@philipp2676 make me ..I'd show u who I am
A palestina nunca será livre enquanto o Hamas estiver dominando a região. Com terrorista não existe diálogo.
Stop the murders. Both sides.
1:07
Wat a load of crap!!
Where is your video showing us the proper way?
Hahahahaaaaaaaa so your admitting your way Is wrong?? Your way ain’t right or wrong, it’s bullshit, if a man with skills attacked you with combos this rubbish would not work and you know it
Boxing is much better
Yeah I would like to see your moves, you would be out cold before you can even see any of this, hypocrite!
Usually people who can't find their ass with both hands and a roadmap, criticize people with great skill.
Bufff is too easy 😂 dear Mr Kalvin