What if Germany unified in 1850? AOTR2 LORE VIDEO

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  • Опубліковано 14 вер 2023
  • What if the 1848 Revolutions happened differently? That is what Aftershocks of the Revolutions Redux, a Hearts of Iron IV mod and a comprehensive alternate history timeline dares to answer.
    In this video, we will be looking at how a single point of divergence, "Nicholas Gamble", cascades into a radically different outcome for Germany, and Europe.
    Subscribe to stay tuned for more Lore Breakdowns of popular Alternate History Scenarios, and original timelines made by me! Your estranged Lore Dad!
    This is my first video, so any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated in the comments!
    Links:
    AOTR2 Discord: / discord
    LoreDad's Discord: / discord
    Credits:
    "Compilation of QBAM Historical Maps" - Public Google Doc, Various
    docs.google.com/document/d/14...
    Lore Authors - Jubs, Nicol, Loredad
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  • @bukanIqbal375
    @bukanIqbal375 7 місяців тому +45

    I love how this video is about what if Germany was united in 1850 and the video is 18:50 long, lol

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  7 місяців тому +9

      Wow that was completely unintentional, good eye!

  • @nutfromvs3933
    @nutfromvs3933 8 місяців тому +60

    Kinda surreal to see all this coming to fruition! Loved witnessing every step along the way and super happy to see this video!

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  8 місяців тому +4

      Thanks a lot Nut! I feel the same way. Really appreciated your feedback. Looking forward to the next one!

  • @shadowderper8930
    @shadowderper8930 7 місяців тому +17

    I LOVE how you actually made a mod with your alt history video! I needed these things!

    • @theweirdclasher3955
      @theweirdclasher3955 6 місяців тому +1

      the mod came first lmao hes a dev on the mod

    • @shadowderper8930
      @shadowderper8930 6 місяців тому +1

      @@theweirdclasher3955 naw really?

    • @theweirdclasher3955
      @theweirdclasher3955 6 місяців тому

      @@shadowderper8930 yeah theyve been working on it since 2019

    • @shadowderper8930
      @shadowderper8930 6 місяців тому

      @@theweirdclasher3955 whens it gon be out??

    • @theweirdclasher3955
      @theweirdclasher3955 6 місяців тому

      @@shadowderper8930 they havent set a release date yet since its still in development

  • @Nallo500
    @Nallo500 7 місяців тому +20

    Very interesting scenario. I will definitely download the mod later and play it!

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  7 місяців тому +3

      Thanks for your comment!
      The mod is still in development, feel free to check out our discord!

  • @sicdrake1627
    @sicdrake1627 6 місяців тому +12

    Me as a hungarian saw Greater Hungary in alt history 🤩

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  6 місяців тому +3

      Hungary becomes a major power in this scenario! I hope you check out our discord!

    • @v1be2007
      @v1be2007 2 місяці тому +2

      @@LoreDad this ending is also quite nice for us poles too lol

  • @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
    @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 5 місяців тому +2

    The gutter crown comment wasnt his direct response, the response went along the line that hes honored but he cant accept it without the approval of his brother monarchs. The gutter crown comment was added as publicity as the parliament fell

  • @synthviking844
    @synthviking844 7 місяців тому +42

    Tommy says hallo

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  7 місяців тому +8

      Hallo Tommy hallo synth Viking!

  • @Axolotl3823
    @Axolotl3823 8 місяців тому +14

    Love the editing, and with a great and fun scenario. Good job

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  8 місяців тому

      Thanks so much! I’m glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @princebunnynutz8082
    @princebunnynutz8082 6 місяців тому +4

    How did South and west germany, along with hungary, manage to hold off prussia, north italy, russia and france. I could understand if it was just prussia, france and italy, but including russia makes this a complete cerb-stomping of the central powers.

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  6 місяців тому

      Thanks for your comment. There are different factors that are playing into the central powered victory that aren’t covered in this video because it was specifically focusing on Germany. I will be making more videos to help explain these factors. Hope you have a good day

    • @princebunnynutz8082
      @princebunnynutz8082 6 місяців тому

      @@LoreDad okay! Hope you have a nice day too

  • @rezaganjizadeh4263
    @rezaganjizadeh4263 4 місяці тому +2

    There is no way crippled Austria could have beaten Prussia, Bavaria, Denmark and Saxony

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  4 місяці тому +2

      As mentioned in my other comment, they weren’t alone

  • @KiraiKatsuji
    @KiraiKatsuji 5 місяців тому +1

    I would love for it to get a part 2

  • @nexustheninja1927
    @nexustheninja1927 7 місяців тому +6

    Im assuming this is a hoi4 mod right? If so this is flippin awesome.

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  7 місяців тому +3

      Yes, it will be and thank you! Check out the discord to stay up to date with development!

    • @nexustheninja1927
      @nexustheninja1927 7 місяців тому

      @@LoreDad I sure will :D
      Such an unusual, but welcome premise for a Alt Hist scenario. You may have a shot at the next Kaiserriech with this.

  • @JPPAS
    @JPPAS 3 місяці тому +3

    hungary capitulating russia is crazy

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  3 місяці тому

      It’s definitely not Hungary alone! Wallachian led Romania movement, Serbia, and German troops all backed up the Hungarians. Hungary alone wouldn’t have managed it

  • @lionstar1992
    @lionstar1992 6 місяців тому +4

    Bürgerkrieg not Burgerkrieg Bürger are People in a country Burgers are what you eat

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  6 місяців тому +3

      Thanks for the note! I will be sure to add the umlauts and pronoune it properly next time!

  • @groggroggus7298
    @groggroggus7298 7 місяців тому +1

    Nice video

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  7 місяців тому

      Thank you!

    • @groggroggus7298
      @groggroggus7298 7 місяців тому

      np fam thought you would need it dawwggggggg ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤fr fr homie@@LoreDad

  • @hardbassmonkey
    @hardbassmonkey 5 місяців тому +4

    Does Germany have colonies?
    Also, is the city of Dresden split?

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  5 місяців тому +1

      Yes, Germany has colonies
      Dresden is split
      Thanks for your comment, be sure to check out the discord!

  • @user-zo7ql4gg8o
    @user-zo7ql4gg8o 8 місяців тому +3

    Good work!! You have a great voice for the narration!

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  8 місяців тому

      Thank you so much!

  • @lunalingo4461
    @lunalingo4461 4 місяці тому +3

    13:10 to 13:16 never in my life did I think I would hear that

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  4 місяці тому

      I had to retake the line so many times because I kept saying entente like it was in our history!

    • @lunalingo4461
      @lunalingo4461 4 місяці тому +1

      Keep up the good work man, keep posting interesting alt history videos like these. U have also earned urself a sub

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  4 місяці тому

      @@lunalingo4461 will do, thanks!

    • @lunalingo4461
      @lunalingo4461 4 місяці тому

      @@LoreDad man I just binge watched ur stresa series, god I love this thing man. Please tell me the Soviets win.

  • @oooshafiqooo
    @oooshafiqooo 6 місяців тому +2

    Alternative title: Germany but instead of Austria being left out, it was Prussia who were left out

    • @johnshelton1141
      @johnshelton1141 3 місяці тому

      Or a German without Austria and without Prussia.

  • @lama_101
    @lama_101 8 місяців тому +5

    Love how much love was put here

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks so much Lama! I really did do my best to capture the world that me and my friends made together in the best way possible. I am glad you could see the passion that we all put into it!

  • @robertmorse3275
    @robertmorse3275 Місяць тому +1

    There just is no way that the north German Confederation losses in that timeline. Prussia by it's self crushed Austria Hungary and the southern German states. Then they crushed frace a few years later. No way they Stand a chance

    • @apineapple3177
      @apineapple3177 17 днів тому +1

      This is not Austria Hungary, as the Hungarian Held Austria from militarizing in addition they lost The Poor Ethnically diverse lands in the east for Rich Industrialize German states and They still have a puppet over Lombard and Venice

  • @rezaganjizadeh4263
    @rezaganjizadeh4263 4 місяці тому +1

    Many details ignired like how austria couldn't put down a militia on their own let alone beat another great power with allies who in reality humiliated practically the rest of germany ob their own in 1866

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  4 місяці тому +1

      It isn’t the Hapsburg armies alone, the 1848 revolutionary zeal spreads to the rest of the German states, leading the reactionary alliance not being able to properly organize a counteroffensive
      Thanks for the feedback though

  • @lljkgktudjlrsmygilug
    @lljkgktudjlrsmygilug 6 місяців тому

    This is a big Germany that I can get behind.

  • @Drief229
    @Drief229 7 місяців тому +1

    Very nice video my friend!

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  7 місяців тому +1

      Thank you very much!

    • @Drief229
      @Drief229 7 місяців тому +1

      You're welcome! I really want to see how you're content will evolve. Keep up the work, you have potential!

  • @paulinalevina9690
    @paulinalevina9690 Місяць тому

    So Dresden is the Berlin of your timeline, right?

  • @bloxycola4496
    @bloxycola4496 6 місяців тому +3

    how the hell did hungary beat russia

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  6 місяців тому +3

      There’s a lot more stuff happening off screen so just remember it’s not just Hungary vs Russia

    • @bloxycola4496
      @bloxycola4496 6 місяців тому +3

      @@LoreDad so who else is invading russia

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  6 місяців тому +3

      To be revealed ;)@@bloxycola4496

  • @porkypinecraig8594
    @porkypinecraig8594 7 місяців тому +1

    the mod is not showing up when i search for it on steam

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  7 місяців тому

      Mod is still in development, check the description for more info!

  • @Autistsons
    @Autistsons 7 місяців тому +7

    I just have a one question: why prussia or austria Almost every timeline not in the germany?

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  7 місяців тому +4

      Gotta balance out Europe!
      It wasn’t depicted in this video, but Germany in this timeline was restricted to annex all of Prussia by Britain, because Britain was scared of the economic power of a unified Germany.
      Other alternate history scenarios probably have the same precautions

    • @Autistsons
      @Autistsons 7 місяців тому +3

      @@LoreDad thanks. And the idea:
      What if austro-prussian war never happened?

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  7 місяців тому +1

      I will definitely consider a video on that. Thanks a lot!@@Autistsons

    • @Autistsons
      @Autistsons 7 місяців тому +4

      @@LoreDad *_☭OUR IDEA☭_*

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  7 місяців тому +2

      Da, comrade@@Autistsons

  • @parm2900
    @parm2900 6 місяців тому

    It is more likely that Bavaria would have joined the German Confederation than Prussia

  • @Mr.Viridian
    @Mr.Viridian 7 місяців тому +1

    Hey dude nice Video but I can't find the mod.

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  7 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the comment! The mod is in development. You can check out the progress on our discord. Link in the description!

  • @SretroOfTheNortheast
    @SretroOfTheNortheast 2 місяці тому

    Is ze mod out

  • @mathiaspoelman1493
    @mathiaspoelman1493 7 місяців тому

    Will there be a sequel?

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  6 місяців тому +2

      Yes there will be another lore video after stresa as a series is complete!

    • @mathiaspoelman1493
      @mathiaspoelman1493 3 місяці тому

      @@LoreDad One more question: are you going to cover the colonies as well? I am so curious to see how Germany and Prussia would try to expand their Empires overseas. Maybe even Hungary establishes colonies!

  • @cingenedovenaugustus4558
    @cingenedovenaugustus4558 Місяць тому +1

    Ending makes no sense. In that war, Russia is defeated and pushed out of Poland and Baltics. Prussia is also defeated and could as well be blamed for the war. There is literally no reason for the Habsburgs not to annex Prussia. Besides, considering this war started in 1914 like otl, Habsburgs would be the Emperor of the German Confederation for more than half a century. Habsburg and German Nationalists would have common grounds and ambitions by that point. What actually would happen is that Austrians would simply annex the entire Prussian Kingdom and then guarantee the Polish independence.

    • @apineapple3177
      @apineapple3177 17 днів тому

      Balance of power and north General federation Surrendered early In exchange for not getting fully destroyed

    • @cingenedovenaugustus4558
      @cingenedovenaugustus4558 7 днів тому

      @@apineapple3177 And you think Austrians would listen? It goes to my point that the ending made no sense. Conquering Prussia would be the top most priority for the Austrians. They would just refuse surrender. Prussians could be easily blamed for the war.

  • @jubs5700
    @jubs5700 8 місяців тому +2

    AOTRbros we're SO BACK

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  8 місяців тому

      We so back

  • @5nhyfiery
    @5nhyfiery 7 місяців тому

    da hell🥶

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  7 місяців тому

      Hi, I’m guessing by your reaction you aren’t a fan? May I ask why? I’m looking to make the best content I can and any feedback is greatly appreciated

  • @taffingtonboathouse5754
    @taffingtonboathouse5754 7 місяців тому +1

    6:43 im hungry

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  6 місяців тому +1

      It’s been 3 days I hope you’ve eaten

    • @taffingtonboathouse5754
      @taffingtonboathouse5754 6 місяців тому +1

      @@LoreDad yeah I eaten at burgerkrieg.

  • @ankard4
    @ankard4 3 місяці тому

    it look like hoi4 mod pax britanica

  • @sahilhossain8204
    @sahilhossain8204 7 місяців тому

    Lore of What if Germany unified in 1850? AOTR2 LORE VIDEO momentum 100

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  7 місяців тому

      Uhh, thanks, I think?

  • @PepeChadIsDaGoat
    @PepeChadIsDaGoat 7 місяців тому +2

    No Romania?

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  7 місяців тому +1

      Romanian lore and background can be found on our discord server! Check the description!

  • @m1ntv1p3r9
    @m1ntv1p3r9 6 місяців тому

    Burgerkrieg

  • @chrisgaming9567
    @chrisgaming9567 7 місяців тому +2

    10:39 So I assume the Paris Commune is pretty much the exact same in this timeline?

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  7 місяців тому

      It actually had went differently! Its the subject of the next AOTR2 Lore Video!

  • @baronbrummbar8691
    @baronbrummbar8691 7 місяців тому +3

    i will be honest ther is no way that this monstrosity is beating prussia in a war
    espacily not if hanover, bavaria & denmark side with prussia

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  7 місяців тому

      Thanks for your comment
      I had tried to illustrate that the hapsburg Germans had the upper hand through non compliance with prussian reaction and armed revolts. I’m sorry that I failed to properly illustrate the severity. Hope you have a good day

  • @chrisgaming9567
    @chrisgaming9567 7 місяців тому +3

    Why didn't the Russian Revolution happen?

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  7 місяців тому +1

      It did, but for reasons, Lenin was Pro-War instead of Anti-War, so the Bolsheviks got less traction, and lost to the white movement.

    • @chrisgaming9567
      @chrisgaming9567 7 місяців тому

      @@LoreDad for reasons?

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  7 місяців тому

      Yes, to be revealed in the next lore video!

  • @reddstar-starsir
    @reddstar-starsir 7 місяців тому +1

    w

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  7 місяців тому

      Thanks king

  • @blaizakin90
    @blaizakin90 7 місяців тому +2

    this alternate history is just saying things to say things. The german military was strong because of prussia not simply because it was german. The Austrian military was dog shit just giving them germany lands doesn't reform their military.

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  7 місяців тому

      Thanks for your comment, sorry you didn’t like it.

    • @blaizakin90
      @blaizakin90 7 місяців тому

      @@LoreDad I think a better way to have gone is just have the prussian king accept the crown. Changing decisions is a better way to do alternate history than just say oh this nation will take over the world because I like them and they are super op because i said so. It changes it from a fantasy to a what-if. What if Germany unified in 1850 - "well the easiest way for that to happen is if the prussian monarch accepted the crown of Germany" what you did "the Austrians accepted the crown of Germany and then despite losing war after war they were able to win a world war against the russians french and Prussians crazy.

  • @uzaynazisi8279
    @uzaynazisi8279 7 місяців тому +2

    mod link?

    • @g-man2351
      @g-man2351 7 місяців тому

      No mod yet

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  7 місяців тому

      Discord link is in description to keep up with development!

    • @uzaynazisi8279
      @uzaynazisi8279 7 місяців тому

      @@LoreDad ok