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  • @abhishekjadhav8319
    @abhishekjadhav8319 8 місяців тому +7903

    It's mobile responsive 😂

    • @CZghost
      @CZghost 8 місяців тому +363

      Well, your web is automatically mobile responsive if it doesn't have a stylesheet :D

    • @nobbyfirefly57
      @nobbyfirefly57 8 місяців тому +32

      @@CZghostwhat’s a stylesheet?

    •  8 місяців тому

      @@nobbyfirefly57code to beautify the page (colors, sizes, etc...) instead of leaving it as pure text

    • @VOID_4487
      @VOID_4487 8 місяців тому

      ​@@nobbyfirefly57a stylesheet is used to improve the visuals of html and ejs. Common stylesheet extensions are .css and .scss

    • @loreenzo2120
      @loreenzo2120 8 місяців тому +163

      @@nobbyfirefly57basically the design. There’s this thing you use with HTML called CSS. CSS affects the design so like the color the font size what images can be shown hence, the name Cascading Style Sheet. It isn’t that complicated imo. It’s fun to play around with considering I’m dogwater at Java script.

  • @cee4985
    @cee4985 8 місяців тому +4844

    And they don't implement cookies 🙂

    • @paskky913
      @paskky913 8 місяців тому +213

      Cookies are the things that automatically log you in so you don't need to retype your password every time. Some cookies are good.

    • @ExodiumTM
      @ExodiumTM 8 місяців тому +150

      ​@@paskky913 pretty sure that ain't safe...

    • @fantik86
      @fantik86 8 місяців тому +111

      ​@@ExodiumTMonly if someone steal your cookies

    • @paskky913
      @paskky913 8 місяців тому +236

      @@ExodiumTM It's impressive how you're "pretty sure" while simultaneously know nothing about how that works.
      The cookie stores a session key generated ad-hoc and stored by the server and it will have an expiry date.
      Non cross-site cookies are inaccessible by any other website besides the ones that generated it.
      This key can be rendered invalid remotely if needed and it decays once you log out. The only way you can get hacked with it is if you already have RAT (Remote Access Trojan - a kind of virus) in your pc or literally share the key yourself somehow. A RAT will have full control on the target machine so that's obvious it can steal everything on it.
      Avoiding viruses is trivial nowadays.

    • @Gameplayer55055
      @Gameplayer55055 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ExodiumTMdepends on the app developer. If it has cookies, with many not so complex security measures like JWT, CORS, HTTPS, HSTS, and ip address check it's 100% safe
      However beware of browser password auto fill. It isn't encrypted and stored plaintext in a directory anyone can access

  • @eve__________
    @eve__________ 7 місяців тому +859

    You forgot the Heaven’s Gate cult website from 1997 that’s still up. One member is still alive that maintains it

    • @ArcangelZero7
      @ArcangelZero7 6 місяців тому +119

      Now THAT is (morbidly?) fascinating. You need more upvotes.

    • @KanyeKetchup
      @KanyeKetchup 5 місяців тому +28

      That's wack bruh

    • @leodeciofilho4946
      @leodeciofilho4946 5 місяців тому +61

      Shouldn’t that be illegal? Also, whoever is maintaining that didn’t go all the way with the group, so that’s kinda suspicious. They could say he’d be left behind to “share the word” but hey, the comet is gone.

    • @MINUSENN
      @MINUSENN 5 місяців тому +8

      I thought theres 2 people running it?

    • @allways8782
      @allways8782 5 місяців тому +3

      Oh wow😬

  • @oltro15
    @oltro15 8 місяців тому +1100

    “Over time it has evolved and this is what it looks like now”
    👴🏻->👴🏻

    • @lorenzrosenthal119
      @lorenzrosenthal119 7 місяців тому +27

      I was blown-away by the redesign! So old-school 😲

    • @SiPakRubah
      @SiPakRubah 7 місяців тому +8

      Maybe the guy who runs the sites just stops caring about it for another years

    • @flowinsounds
      @flowinsounds 7 місяців тому +12

      maybe the old school look is the brand@@SiPakRubah

    • @joshuacurtis2591
      @joshuacurtis2591 7 місяців тому +18

      More like 😀->😃

    • @Klutech
      @Klutech 7 місяців тому +7

      If you update something old a heck of a long time ago.... it's still gonna be old.

  • @asperganoid
    @asperganoid 8 місяців тому +2963

    I miss the old internet.
    I used to read and read and read like crazy before I had access to much books.

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis 8 місяців тому +112

      Me too, was a really exciting time to be alive.

    • @ventiankraus980
      @ventiankraus980 8 місяців тому +151

      I still read like crazy but the mess you have to wade through is insane nowadays. I remember a teacher saying there's no such thing as a dumb question, but that was stated before web 2.0.

    • @ventiankraus980
      @ventiankraus980 8 місяців тому +51

      @13.ghaniziyadsagiansyah66 Mostly nostalgia paired with rose colored glasses tbh. I'm probably happier (on scale) now than I've ever been, but I like to look back on the good things from back when.

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis 8 місяців тому +92

      @@13.ghaniziyadsagiansyah66 _"Wtf are people so OBSESSED with the past"_
      Wtf do you not understand the difference between NOSTALGIA and obsession?

    • @ventiankraus980
      @ventiankraus980 8 місяців тому +9

      @13.ghaniziyadsagiansyah66 I understand that. It's definitely to be taken in moderation. Best to learn from the past, not live in it.

  • @davidnotonstinnett
    @davidnotonstinnett 7 місяців тому +161

    My theory is that someone pays the server costs for these sites to make sure that new JavaScript, HTML and CSS engines are backwards compatible.

    • @Stoy981
      @Stoy981 5 місяців тому +4

      I was going to like your comment but I didn’t want to change the 69 likes.

    • @kklol07
      @kklol07 5 місяців тому +2

      As a "reference checkpoint" ? So that we don't sway away from the original syntax? Pretty cool thought I'd say

    • @langelle1
      @langelle1 4 місяці тому

      Why? Is there some law that says that browsers have to be able to load old web pages?

    • @user-fm4mt7rz5u
      @user-fm4mt7rz5u 4 місяці тому +5

      @@langelle1 no but because it would be insane if html or css wasnt backwards compatible

    • @dallysinghson5569
      @dallysinghson5569 4 місяці тому +4

      Imagine the havoc if sites started morphing into fugly unreadable making the Internet useless.

  • @milescarter7803
    @milescarter7803 8 місяців тому +459

    Please can we go back? I hate it when I need a couple kilobytes of text information on a congested or spotty data link and the website is loading 100MB of mixed media before it will show me anything. The browser should honestly be allowed to block all scripts so I can grab just the important info I need

    • @oyveygoy
      @oyveygoy 7 місяців тому +51

      This is possible though, you can block javascript and you can even block CSS with Tor. Unfortunately most modern websites break if you enable these settings, especially cloudfare websites

    • @JohnCoffins
      @JohnCoffins 6 місяців тому +6

      ​@@oyveygoyI'm pretty sure you can load any website as html

    • @Fermion.
      @Fermion. 6 місяців тому

      I use the NoScript extension in firefox to do that very thing. Has worked great for me for years now.

    • @traversal6881
      @traversal6881 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@JohnCoffinsThey never said you couldn't.

    • @yashbutno
      @yashbutno 5 місяців тому +18

      Unfortunately most modern websites rely too heavily on JavaScript and render nothing without it.

  • @CodingWithLewis
    @CodingWithLewis  8 місяців тому +540

    When Dreamweaver is new technology, that’s how you know it’s old.

    • @souryasoni2050
      @souryasoni2050 8 місяців тому +7

      Sir I need your help
      Can we talk

    • @cedrictheveneau9141
      @cedrictheveneau9141 8 місяців тому

      my manager told me about DreamWeaver a week ago, it felt like I got back to Stone Age, and I’m a dude who still codes his newsletters by hand !

    • @ElectricRainbowClouds
      @ElectricRainbowClouds 8 місяців тому +10

      Hahaha I made my first website with dreamweaver!!

    • @birsingh5388
      @birsingh5388 8 місяців тому

      ​@@ElectricRainbowCloudssame here

    • @DMC888
      @DMC888 8 місяців тому

      I’d completely forgotten about Dreamweaver, and I used it a lot. Strange because all you needed back then was notepad.

  • @ivanc9087
    @ivanc9087 5 місяців тому +180

    On the old internet you’d just read and there was no feed. No doom-scrolling, no cookies, no algorithm. You came there with a mission, an interest and could genuinely explore and have that feeling of discovering and learning new things yourself. Shit wasn’t spoonfed to you by some corporate designed algorithm. Now the internet is no different than the TV. Minimal self decided interaction. Everything gone for the sake of convenience. People don’t realize that the difficulties it took to overcome was what made it fun in the first place. You had to figure it out. It wasn’t annoying in the way ads are. It was just something you had to try and find out how to operate. Finding obscure websites randomly and being the first one in your circle to know about them was a crazy pioneer type of feeling. Exploring links and reading up on stuff you never knew about, finding new interests and fascinations. That’s what really made the old internet what it was. Now we have apps. They all suck ass bc you don’t have any freedom. Everything is compartmentalized and there is no explorable overlap or common layers under the surface. No mystery. You always know what expects you and it’s trash

    • @janhob7250
      @janhob7250 5 місяців тому

      What you are looking for still exists and it has a name: wikipedia. It has none of the bullshit you critize and can suck you in for hours for true satisfaction

    • @solomondees.4632
      @solomondees.4632 5 місяців тому +17

      I mostly agree but there are actually small fragments and bastions of the old web that still exist. Corporations have indeed ruined more than 95% of it with their trash and monetization of everything.

    • @professional.commentator
      @professional.commentator 5 місяців тому +12

      I'm not sure if it's just me but I feel like the "old Internet" died around 2012. Because I remember before then how there was a stark contrast between TV and the Internet. Then it somewhat quickly melded into becoming the very thing it was trying to destroy.

    • @curseofsasuke
      @curseofsasuke 5 місяців тому +4

      Facebook was a big hit in part, because there were no ads.

    • @ftroop2000
      @ftroop2000 4 місяці тому +2

      Wow! This took me back. The best way I've heard "the Internet used to be so much better".

  • @ABW941
    @ABW941 8 місяців тому +57

    Those 80s "websites" were not on the www, and used something else but HTML.

    • @flowinsounds
      @flowinsounds 7 місяців тому +1

      explain.

    • @ABW941
      @ABW941 7 місяців тому +17

      @@flowinsounds It was not really on the internet as we know it, it didnt use the Hypertextmarkuplanguage, the the transfer protocolls, the same way to refer to data, or a webbrowser. All this came later, in 89' allthough some adresses existed in a different way.

    • @flowinsounds
      @flowinsounds 7 місяців тому

      i'm asking for details. I used news groups, and remote file sharing over the JANET/KAREN networks in the early 90s,so lots of command line unix access, but would like to know more of the websites of the time. This was with BNC terminated networking, before switched tcp/ip@@ABW941

    • @X85283
      @X85283 3 дні тому

      @@ABW941 He did not show any "websites" from the 80s. He mentioned business that were founded in the 80s... Not the same thing.

    • @normanross3422
      @normanross3422 День тому

      @@flowinsounds html & http protocol weren't invented until 1989 and were subsequntly released for general public use in 1991.
      Typically before that "web" sites were actually bulletin board systems - sometimes the code was open source, sometimes proprietry (e.g. in the UK - Prestel, Micronet, etc).
      Precursors to html were (e.g.) text formattinmg and markup "languages" like Runoff and LaTeX.

  • @Thunderwolf666
    @Thunderwolf666 7 місяців тому +123

    No websites existed prior to 1991, as the HTTP protocol didn't exist. The domain names existed, but they were used for older technologies like WAIS and Gopher, FTP etc. Just because the domain was registered in the 80s and there's an outdated webpage there now, doesn't mean that webpage has existed since the 80s.

    • @SilverWolf89936
      @SilverWolf89936 5 місяців тому +22

      You’re correct. This video is misleading.

    • @EmperorMegas
      @EmperorMegas 5 місяців тому +13

      Gopher! Holy shit, I'm old.

    • @Thunderwolf666
      @Thunderwolf666 5 місяців тому +9

      @@EmperorMegas you and me both man

    • @UkeCan1
      @UkeCan1 5 місяців тому +5

      I've been on internet email since 1980.

    • @RecoveryTurtle
      @RecoveryTurtle 5 місяців тому +12

      @@UkeCan1the internet is older than the web (http)

  • @travelchic908
    @travelchic908 13 днів тому

    I miss this era of the internet. It was created by all of us, not corporations. No spam. No ads. No pop ups. No cookies.

  • @the-np4mr
    @the-np4mr 8 місяців тому +414

    Back when the Internet was worth exploring

    • @kaynkayn9870
      @kaynkayn9870 7 місяців тому +33

      Oh yeah, so terrible that we have search engine and aggregate sites now... oh dear me having them all in the same place for me to easily find. No more exploring for me as I only watch videos on youtube short instead of going through blogs after blogs for content.

    • @the-np4mr
      @the-np4mr 7 місяців тому

      @@kaynkayn9870 yep

    • @inendlesspain4724
      @inendlesspain4724 7 місяців тому

      @@kaynkayn9870 Most modern search engines, especially Google's, are absolutely busted and useless. UA-cam is highly restrictive with its content and very draconian towards its content creators, and the other major websites in which all the surface/mainstream level content is concentrated (Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, Tiktok, etc.) aren't any better.

    • @wilfreddv
      @wilfreddv 6 місяців тому

      ​@@kaynkayn9870enjoying the globohomo slop?

    • @JatPhenshllem
      @JatPhenshllem 6 місяців тому

      ​@@kaynkayn9870All the sites I search up are shit. Reused and AI generated, it seems

  • @50LightSabersInAPack
    @50LightSabersInAPack 7 місяців тому +41

    Better than most of the silly overdesigned websites today lol

    • @proto_arkbit3100
      @proto_arkbit3100 7 місяців тому +5

      I miss the old skeumorphic design, minimalist/fluent corporate design is the graphical version of a cold hospital waiting room

    • @ArcangelZero7
      @ArcangelZero7 6 місяців тому +8

      ​@@proto_arkbit3100Don't forget all the wacky "diverse public" green, purple, and blue people with their tiny skewed heads and gargantuan king kong arms on indiscernible bodies riding unicycles and planting gardens while doing handstands.
      "Teehee we're so unique and quirky and relatable. We represent everyone by depicting no one!" --Every tech company since like 2008

    • @djperryboy
      @djperryboy 6 місяців тому +4

      Overdesigined today. Hahahahaha. Dude. Internet were filled with internet designs in the 90's. It used to be millions of private web pages looking cool. Today there is not much web pages existing anymore. Social media ruined internet.

  • @_hepl
    @_hepl Місяць тому +2

    "its mobile responsive" got me super bad 😂

  • @X-Gen-001
    @X-Gen-001 7 місяців тому +13

    The net still feels like a recent thing.

    • @hamdelsun68
      @hamdelsun68 4 місяці тому +2

      It's cuz we're old😂

    • @X-Gen-001
      @X-Gen-001 4 місяці тому

      @@hamdelsun68 _Sigh_ I know.😂

  • @tacky4237
    @tacky4237 8 місяців тому +232

    i miss the old internet.
    So much

    • @XMehrooz
      @XMehrooz 7 місяців тому +10

      Old internet, win98, netscape browser, 5-10 kbps modem, runescape, flash games... All gone :(

    • @zacharysherry2910
      @zacharysherry2910 7 місяців тому +2

      The old Internet was the mail 📬

    • @tardwrangler
      @tardwrangler 7 місяців тому +4

      Why are we still here? Just to suffer…?

    • @halguy5745
      @halguy5745 7 місяців тому +9

      before it was overtaken and monopolized/centralized by corporations

    • @miguelelgueta5830
      @miguelelgueta5830 7 місяців тому +1

      yup

  • @yellowjackboots2624
    @yellowjackboots2624 7 місяців тому +15

    Megadeath were the first musical artists to have an official website

  • @TheCerealHobbyist
    @TheCerealHobbyist 8 місяців тому +275

    “CLAIMS to be the first website”. Tell me you don’t know internet history without telling me you don’t know about internet history.

    • @charlie.on.youtube
      @charlie.on.youtube 7 місяців тому +17

      Came for this comment

    • @butwhytharum
      @butwhytharum 6 місяців тому +10

      thought the internet was invented to be used at Cern.

    • @charlie.on.youtube
      @charlie.on.youtube 6 місяців тому +65

      @@butwhytharum I think one of the general recurring issues in the video and in the comment section is the idea that “internet” and “world wide web” are synonymous. Tim Berners-Lee invented the web at CERN (but not necessarily _for_ CERN) and it was designed to work on the already-established internet.

    • @Deadpanable
      @Deadpanable 6 місяців тому +10

      Don't forget "made with TABLES"

    • @AndersJackson
      @AndersJackson 5 місяців тому

      ​​@@charlie.on.youtube The web was made for CERN, at CERN. So his site IS the first.
      So NOTHING on the web is older then that, which is 1991.
      Before that we had other systems, based on the internet. Like ftp-sites and Gopher.
      By the way, I started/worked on websites back in 1992/1993 is still there. Both the computer association Update, Uppsala Swrden.
      And University of Gävle/Sandviken. It they are still running. But neither are so retro.

  • @thehowerd8634
    @thehowerd8634 6 місяців тому +12

    Honestly these need to be kept around just for the sheer historic/nostalgic value

    • @strykertron232
      @strykertron232 19 годин тому

      probs would have an entry in the Library of Congress at least.

  • @georgehelyar
    @georgehelyar 7 місяців тому +18

    Fun fact, if you want to write html for emails you still need to use tables. In fact only a small subset of html 4 works at all in non-browser email clients like outlook. Think maybe it's because outlook uses IE? Wrong, it's because outlook uses word as it's html engine. Also things like Gmail remove style tags so all styles need to be inline, and pretty much every span needs to repeat all its font styles. I work at a company that processes 100m emails a day and this is my personal hell.

    • @djperryboy
      @djperryboy 6 місяців тому

      IE is a browser.

    • @MisterRod
      @MisterRod 2 місяці тому +1

      @@djperryboy I believe he meant IE's rendering engine, Trident. But yeah, Outlook uses WORD's engine lol Literal hell.

  • @emmafountain2059
    @emmafountain2059 7 місяців тому +161

    Honestly being a systems company with one of the oldest websites is one hell of a marketing move

    • @Not_interestEd-
      @Not_interestEd- 7 місяців тому +15

      Can't really fix what ain't broke, that's for sure.

    • @Eduardo_Espinoza
      @Eduardo_Espinoza 7 місяців тому +6

      They're bringing something to the table

    • @IsraelCountryCube
      @IsraelCountryCube 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Eduardo_Espinozasi viva la revolution carajo!

  • @monad_tcp
    @monad_tcp 8 місяців тому +6

    a site made with tables, that's why it still works

    • @spencer5028
      @spencer5028 5 місяців тому +1

      Had a job moving those to divs in the early 2010s

  • @mariuszmoraw3571
    @mariuszmoraw3571 5 місяців тому +1

    Am I only one who wish simple web design would return?

  • @bland9876
    @bland9876 5 місяців тому +9

    As someone who loves sporks I can't believe I never knew about that website.
    Sports are awesome for eating soup because you can scoop like normal but you can also stab specific pieces from the soup.
    That's about the only time I use them but I love them for that purpose.

  • @Rishi2015
    @Rishi2015 7 місяців тому +18

    I want to go back to 2013

  • @elkabong6429
    @elkabong6429 7 місяців тому +2

    1987 is when I first went online and I haven’t stopped since! My first log-in was with a group called “ECHO” which stands for East Coast Hang Out; based in New York City, originating at NY University computer studies dept (don’t recall exactly). After that I joined Compuserve and then AOL. It’s been quite a ride!

  • @magnushultgrenhtc
    @magnushultgrenhtc 8 місяців тому +14

    I maintain that not recognising the blink tag was how Internet Explorer won the browser wars.

  • @muskreality
    @muskreality 8 місяців тому +153

    HTML can truly stand the test of time

    • @DeeegerD
      @DeeegerD 8 місяців тому +3

      And ruined the internet by letting dolts use it. I liked it much better before browsers.

    • @residentgrey
      @residentgrey 8 місяців тому +9

      ​@@DeeegerDNope, that is what makes it shine! Without those "dolts" the net would be only in niche places.

    • @Leipaa
      @Leipaa 7 місяців тому

      ​@@DeeegerDI think the Internet was better when it was clay tablets and pictograms. These stupid alphabets allow any moron to read and write, cringe.

    • @gauthamnair6075
      @gauthamnair6075 7 місяців тому +7

      Rip

    • @Leonard_MT
      @Leonard_MT 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@gauthamnair6075Agreed when used properly (it almost never was) it was extremely useful.

  • @murilovsilva
    @murilovsilva 7 місяців тому +6

    Old times website give off such nostalgic vibes

  • @deathdrivesapontiac752
    @deathdrivesapontiac752 День тому

    And yet they still choose not to support flash games.

  • @ChristopherSibert
    @ChristopherSibert 4 місяці тому +1

    As a web developer who started in the 1990s, yes, all websites used to be made with tables. 'Twas a simpler time...

  • @artrix909
    @artrix909 6 місяців тому +7

    "based in california"
    *zoom on hawaii intensifies*

  • @gustavocortico1681
    @gustavocortico1681 7 місяців тому +5

    The old internet, so earnest and unfiltered. Felt like wilderness.

  • @mrsbluesky8415
    @mrsbluesky8415 7 місяців тому +1

    Al Gore invented the internet so his page should be in the mix.

  • @shaileshparekh2607
    @shaileshparekh2607 5 місяців тому +1

    So according to tech burner Indian people are successful 😂😢

  • @user-se7es6uc8v
    @user-se7es6uc8v 8 місяців тому +14

    If you've eaten military ration packs, sporks become important.

    • @BuruKyu
      @BuruKyu 8 місяців тому

      im not solid snake

    • @mazzysmainframe
      @mazzysmainframe 6 місяців тому +1

      @@BuruKyu Well, whose fault is that?

  • @nelejanbbi4616
    @nelejanbbi4616 8 місяців тому +6

    "you already know about this one" ... no, i wasn't born yet

    • @djperryboy
      @djperryboy 6 місяців тому +1

      I think this dude wasn't born yet either. He's just guessing

  • @blaircox1589
    @blaircox1589 7 місяців тому +1

    So April 30, 1993, was when the "Internet" became available to the general public. So how can you have business "websites" before then? Anything that came before would have been BBS-related and not true sites as related to the WWW.

  • @SierraYankee7
    @SierraYankee7 5 днів тому +1

    Ahh yes.. lets skip over Heaven's Gate cult website.

  • @rproctor83
    @rproctor83 6 місяців тому +3

    I remember being 10 and installing a hit counter on my geocities website with animated pentagrams. Those were the good ol days.

  • @angharadhafod
    @angharadhafod 8 місяців тому +156

    An actual web site from the 1980s That's pretty cool, considering the web and HTML1 wasn't invented until 1991. Whoever made those pages needs to be employed as a futurist now.

    • @leiilo
      @leiilo 6 місяців тому

      😂😂 Fr

    • @larsjonasson2959
      @larsjonasson2959 6 місяців тому +40

      Before HTML there were GML (IBM), SGML (CERN) and HyperMedia (Apple). Each with their own browser.

    • @angharadhafod
      @angharadhafod 6 місяців тому +27

      @@larsjonasson2959 Fun fact: The term "web site" was first used in 1993 (2 years after its "invention"), and used in the context of the WWW.

    • @MichaelEricMenk
      @MichaelEricMenk 5 місяців тому

      ​@@larsjonasson2959HTML is SGML.

    • @mitchyoung93
      @mitchyoung93 5 місяців тому

      ​@@larsjonasson2959No one ever called s hypercard deck a 'website'

  • @jordanw8382
    @jordanw8382 5 місяців тому +1

    The Government of Canada website is almost as ancient as these.

  • @xxczerxx
    @xxczerxx 5 місяців тому +2

    I love the DIY quality of the old internet. It had a defined aesthetic and artistic/creative quality. Everything is homogenised by service providers now so the internet is just this massive corporate extension.

  • @t.dominey4150
    @t.dominey4150 7 місяців тому +9

    I was looking for info on how to repair an accordion and I ended up in a forum entry from the 90s

    • @WTFBOOMDOOM
      @WTFBOOMDOOM 7 місяців тому

      Google preserved many old forums, usenet groups and even bulletin board systems, not only by allowing us to find them, but even by actually hosting them on Google Groups. The companies that ran them couldn't make money out of them by the late 90s because the internet had become relatively widespread, so most were archived, some were even lost. Google bought such archives and preserved a lot of (pre-)internet history that way.
      A few years ago I read a BBS thread from 1982 where they talk about "that new E.T. Atari game that had just come out" (that came to be known as one of the worst games of all time). It felt so interesting reading it.
      As for forums, I used to find forum posts from 1997-1999 from time to time until a couple of years ago. I have interests in video games from that era and troubleshooting them sometimes leads to such old sources. I don't consider them all that ancient because you can easily find user reviews on IMDb from '99. Not that I used the internet back then, I was born in 1990 and started using the internet in 2002, but there are slightly older people for whom life on the internet in the early 2000s doesn't feel ancient yet - nostalgic, yes, but it wasn't 60 years ago.
      I'd say a more significant watershed between old and new internet is 2005-2008 or so, when UA-cam, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit etc took over. Of those UA-cam seems to be the most significant time capsule, not that people commonly watch personal videos from 15 years ago, but when you watch the official upload of an older song it's usually from 2008-09 when Vevo was initiated so music labels could profit from UA-cam rather than allowing random people to amass tens and later hundreds of millions of views.

    • @sandasturner9529
      @sandasturner9529 7 місяців тому +1

      😆

    • @SilverWolf89936
      @SilverWolf89936 5 місяців тому +1

      How is that possible?

  • @punstress
    @punstress 8 місяців тому +322

    Using tables was the second strategy I learned. The first was using a 1-pixel transparent GIF and resizing it so, for example, you could indent text or insert space between sections.

    • @nickfifteen
      @nickfifteen 8 місяців тому +34

      Oh MAN I remember using 1x1 "pixel.gif" files! Back when "width = 10px" didn't always equal ten pixels, and you had to force it.

    • @danbo967
      @danbo967 8 місяців тому +26

      tables are still commonly used its just that they are often heavily stylized with CSS.

    • @Gameplayer55055
      @Gameplayer55055 8 місяців тому +9

      Btw how would you center div without flex, transform or margin auto

    • @robbirobson7330
      @robbirobson7330 8 місяців тому

      @@Gameplayer55055 with percentage

    • @nickfifteen
      @nickfifteen 8 місяців тому

      @@Gameplayer55055 Center tag, or align=center .... it took me YEARS to deprogram myself from that.

  • @cisumevolneblok
    @cisumevolneblok 5 місяців тому +1

    The cutting skills here are beyond anything

  • @wolfetteplays8894
    @wolfetteplays8894 5 місяців тому +1

    Ah, back when websites actually had good aesthetics instead of being “postmodern” garbage

  • @thatdrh
    @thatdrh 5 місяців тому +4

    I come from the BBS days. I was just telling a story the other day about I managed to get my parents a $430 phone bill in 1989

    • @UkeCan1
      @UkeCan1 5 місяців тому +3

      I knew how to make free international phone calls in the early '80s.

  • @kapandi7763
    @kapandi7763 8 місяців тому +127

    Someone is beating the time despite this oldnesses 😮

  • @ktldon
    @ktldon 5 місяців тому +1

    Hahaha these sites looks like a high school assignment

  • @TheFitzy93
    @TheFitzy93 5 місяців тому +1

    I think his uncle’s webpage is still up there.. baby Jesus came back for that one

  • @TheTechAdmin
    @TheTechAdmin 5 місяців тому +2

    I remember visiting the milk website and reading his statement about how he will only accept email offers in the 10's of millions.
    So i emailed him and said,
    "You should never make public your sale price, when it's more than a Platinum grade ( $100,000 ) hitman. This isn't a threat, it's advice."

  • @AgentSmith911
    @AgentSmith911 7 місяців тому +26

    Sometimes I just miss the 90s, so I can just turn on some 90s music and visit these websites 😂

    • @walterbrunswick
      @walterbrunswick 5 місяців тому

      What's stopping you from doing this now?

  • @willcook1530
    @willcook1530 5 місяців тому +1

    The little milk figure guy looks like one of the graphics from the original Lollapalooza.

  • @Sayurjoel
    @Sayurjoel 5 місяців тому +2

    Caine Farber really has a weird logo , makes you wonder what it's really about.

  • @chrisharshman5838
    @chrisharshman5838 8 місяців тому +6

    I'm amused the computer they picture in this video is an old IBM PC Jr. It's older than any of these websites, from the mid 1980's.

  • @carminone
    @carminone 7 місяців тому +4

    The old web was so exciting.

  • @freddjie3097
    @freddjie3097 24 дні тому +1

    There’s another called Betty Lou Music. It started in the late 90’s, and is still up

  • @Hell.Kaiser
    @Hell.Kaiser 5 місяців тому +1

    This got me. I thought "Hello World" would be the first one

  • @CMDR_John_Crichton
    @CMDR_John_Crichton 7 місяців тому +4

    My favorite old website that's still online is an ancient Pokemon fanfiction and fanart website named The Pokemon Tower. Came online in the early 2000s and lasted until 2012 when it just simply stopped getting updates. Didn't get shut down or anything, there's even still a contest running to win a 3DS. Just simply abandoned.

    • @knife-wieldingspidergod5059
      @knife-wieldingspidergod5059 7 місяців тому

      It needs a plug-in.

    • @CMDR_John_Crichton
      @CMDR_John_Crichton 7 місяців тому

      @@knife-wieldingspidergod5059 If you're referring to the flash player that shows up on the first page, that's the only thing about the site that no longer works. There's a link below it to go to the main page.

  • @sodakk17
    @sodakk17 8 місяців тому +67

    Berkshire Hathaway isn't that old, but it still maintains a very retro look.

    • @adawg3032
      @adawg3032 8 місяців тому +11

      facts, i love the retro look, reminds you of when your flash plugin for your browser stops working and all the stuff is in HTML

  • @Crytkee
    @Crytkee 12 днів тому

    CERN doesn’t claim to be the first website, they developed the World Wide Web at CERN.

  • @berczigabor
    @berczigabor 15 днів тому

    All websites were originally mobile responsive, as basic HTML used all dynamic layouts. Then came fixed with tables, and that's when we lost responsivity, until it returned in the late 2000s and beyond.

  • @onrir
    @onrir 8 місяців тому +119

    What do you mean "claims"? İts literally the first website made to test the internet

    • @agoogleuser2619
      @agoogleuser2619 8 місяців тому +26

      Probably didn't check for any source confirming it and realised that during recording or editing.

    • @Nathan-mu1pz
      @Nathan-mu1pz 8 місяців тому +8

      He literally mentioned two older websites after it

    • @Nathan-mu1pz
      @Nathan-mu1pz 8 місяців тому +3

      He literally named 2 older websites after it

    • @bigbread3
      @bigbread3 8 місяців тому +11

      @@Nathan-mu1pzbut they arent older

    • @Nathan-mu1pz
      @Nathan-mu1pz 8 місяців тому +5

      @@bigbread3 how is 1987 and 1986 not older than 1991?

  • @cc_snipergirl
    @cc_snipergirl 8 місяців тому +79

    My family owns a domain that my dad bought in the 90s. We used it as a family blog until social media came around

    • @laus9953
      @laus9953 7 місяців тому +10

      interesting. I thought they were still "free" to obtain then, and nothing was commercial on the Internet back then

    • @cc_snipergirl
      @cc_snipergirl 7 місяців тому

      @@laus9953 Honestly could be the case. The domain is older than I am

    • @flowinsounds
      @flowinsounds 7 місяців тому

      you've always had to pay for domains@@laus9953

    • @kasrakh86
      @kasrakh86 7 місяців тому +5

      Do you guys still have the site? If so, have you tried doing other things with it?

    • @cc_snipergirl
      @cc_snipergirl 7 місяців тому +25

      @@kasrakh86 I've actually considered reviving it myself. It's still up technically, but hasn't been used in over a decade. I'm taking some pretty intense college classes right now, but will probably pick it back up in the summer. We have a very big family with a lot of history, and I think it would be nice to preserve that somewhere.

  • @rainyeyesparty
    @rainyeyesparty 4 місяці тому +1

    Crazy how all of this were online before i was even born lol

  • @yashbutno
    @yashbutno 5 місяців тому

    The web is both responsive and accessible by default. Bad developers with massive javascript libraries have ruined it.

  • @truth-12345.
    @truth-12345. 8 місяців тому +6

    Wow! Space Jam actually still existed.

    • @askjeevescosby2928
      @askjeevescosby2928 8 місяців тому +6

      No it's gone. Its now a modern site for the stupid new movie with LeBron James. I was pissed when they did it.

    • @redsynister4836
      @redsynister4836 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@askjeevescosby2928 no, it's still there. I was just on it a minute ago. Just dig a little deeper.

  • @ryanmigliori660
    @ryanmigliori660 8 місяців тому +6

    You should cover ham radio repeaters like 10 meter repeaters and 440 mhz repeaters and 2 meter repeaters and old analog radios vs new digital sdr rtl radios.

  • @WindowsXP_logon_sound_25yrsago
    @WindowsXP_logon_sound_25yrsago 13 годин тому

    90s internet was just special
    Ahh i miss it 😓😅

  • @synthetism
    @synthetism 5 днів тому

    Tables and HTML bring back to highschool.

  • @VOTE_REFORM_UK
    @VOTE_REFORM_UK 7 місяців тому +16

    “You already know about this one.”
    No. No I didn’t…

  • @colevilleproductions
    @colevilleproductions 7 місяців тому +55

    “the most basic website”
    about:blank has entered the chat

    • @Tilde_Shii
      @Tilde_Shii 7 місяців тому +2

      I knew nothing about about:blank and honestly was thoroughly disappointed it wasn't just a white page with only the word "blank" on it.

    • @Eduardo_Espinoza
      @Eduardo_Espinoza 7 місяців тому +1

      ‏‏‎

    • @colevilleproductions
      @colevilleproductions 7 місяців тому +1

    • @BlazeYT_
      @BlazeYT_ 7 місяців тому +1

      ‏‏‎

    • @pimphatwaggoner1655
      @pimphatwaggoner1655 7 місяців тому +6

      that's not a website zoomer

  • @jamesmcinnis208
    @jamesmcinnis208 5 місяців тому

    He said "literally," so I'm convinced.

  • @davidmil15
    @davidmil15 4 місяці тому

    Incredulously: this website is made out of tables.

  • @yaroslavpanych2067
    @yaroslavpanych2067 8 місяців тому +5

    When they think that table is sing of oldness, and you your whole life knew knew that tables is sign of perfection

  • @AlfredoAntonioMartinez
    @AlfredoAntonioMartinez 8 місяців тому +5

    Only some bunch of my fellas will understand the hype that we feel when we read ALOT of a web and then see a blue word that means A LINK to another page XD

    • @UkeCan1
      @UkeCan1 5 місяців тому

      "Hype" 😂

  • @bravo1oh1
    @bravo1oh1 6 днів тому +1

    CFG logo looks sus

  • @cktooshort
    @cktooshort 5 місяців тому

    people yapping about minimalism nowadays when the boys in 1986 had it figured out already

  • @MyCodingDiarie
    @MyCodingDiarie 8 місяців тому +34

    I always look forward to your videos. They're both educational and entertaining!

  • @lorenzi97
    @lorenzi97 8 місяців тому +11

    I'm supposing the ones before 1994 weren't WWW, but existed as something like a BBS or a newsgroup before they actually became a website. Or is there something I don't know?

    • @absalomdraconis
      @absalomdraconis 8 місяців тому +3

      If I recally correctly, 94 is just when the WWW started getting big, the most basic of it's technologies (e.g. the Mosaic browser) were present in the late 80s if I recall correctly.

    • @stevebabiak6997
      @stevebabiak6997 8 місяців тому

      The University of Minnesota had developed a hyperlinked text based technology that was called gopher (after the school’s sports teams name); port 70 on the servers handled that protocol. Port 80 became the port for the servers designed to work with HTML.
      The key takeaway is to understand that one technology took advantage of and used some earlier technology while adding features.

    • @smoguli
      @smoguli 7 місяців тому

      The Internet and the World Wide Web are 2 distinct things. The www dates to the mid 90’s but the Internet was already 20 years old at that time. I’ve been on the Internet before www. Sites used gopher to present information, it was the precursor of html.

    • @charlie.on.youtube
      @charlie.on.youtube 7 місяців тому +2

      The CERN site from 1991 is the first web site. They released the underlying software in 1993. It exploded after that.

  • @balthasar6091
    @balthasar6091 5 місяців тому +1

    Ah yes, Sporks. The greatest invention in human history, right after the flamethrower, which has been proven to be the greatest invention right after the AMC Gremlin.

  • @Vesta32
    @Vesta32 4 місяці тому +1

    if you don't use any css additionally it is still responsive 😂

  • @SomeDudeInBaltimore
    @SomeDudeInBaltimore 8 місяців тому +8

    It's crazy to think none of this existed when I was born and now there are adults with children of their own who are younger than some of these websites.

    • @zacharysherry2910
      @zacharysherry2910 7 місяців тому +3

      Yeah it's really weird to tell my son (aren't I still a kid?) that the internet didn't exist and neither did "phones" as they do now.

    • @matthiaslastname9019
      @matthiaslastname9019 6 місяців тому +4

      I tell my son I'm older than Google. He thinks I'm joking.

  • @starstheengine
    @starstheengine 8 місяців тому +34

    Berkshire Hathaway's website iirc has been last updated in 1997 and hasn't changed since.
    Edit: The sad part is it's not responsive.

    • @khabeesschool9919
      @khabeesschool9919 8 місяців тому +2

      I know how to make websites responsive but I don't know to connect them to the databases

  • @bigboydrz
    @bigboydrz 4 місяці тому

    Talking about HTML tables like it’s dinosaur talk

  • @rachitshukla30
    @rachitshukla30 6 місяців тому

    Why are the older websites easier to read, no distractions. And no annoying ads popping up while reading

    • @djperryboy
      @djperryboy 6 місяців тому +1

      Probably because it is alot smaller. They were made for alot less powerful computers than today. They are simple with less moving objects. But they are also much worse in graphic and not as clean design as today.

  • @BeachcomberNZ
    @BeachcomberNZ 8 місяців тому +3

    Microsoft Frontpage, for the win!

    • @TonyHamlyn
      @TonyHamlyn 5 місяців тому +1

      I only had frontpage express on my windows 95 machine :)

  • @JJ-cy2fi
    @JJ-cy2fi 8 місяців тому +91

    The fact that they made the most basic website mobile responsive while adding nothing else is another level of trolling🤣

    • @cat47
      @cat47 8 місяців тому +45

      no, the thing is, really simple websites that are just ,like, text fit well automatically onto mobile web browsers, because they are really easy to render. so, the joke is that he is complimenting them for a feature they didn't go out of their way to implement.

    • @grossteilfahrer
      @grossteilfahrer 8 місяців тому +4

      ​@@cat47... Or you know the average computer in 1994 was like 640x480 pixels resolution, so a modern phone would be a top end CAD workstation costing $50k

    • @__christopher__
      @__christopher__ 8 місяців тому +12

      Well, they wrote the web site the way it was originally intended. The idea being that you only deliver the content and leave the presentation to the device displaying it.

    • @absalomdraconis
      @absalomdraconis 8 місяців тому +7

      ​@@grossteilfahrer : Relative speeds aren't relevant here, it's literally responsive just bwcause old sites didn't usually try to set the width for anything other than padding. Except for really large screens, there's rarely an actual reason to set a width for things, graphics design types and the folks that really abused tables (often the same group...) just keep doing the wrong thing because they aren't properly adjusting to the technology.

    • @Jivvi
      @Jivvi 8 місяців тому

      And the fact that they wrote their email address with "at" and the wrote "replace at with @", just so it wouldn't turn into a link.

  • @Thebonesoftrees
    @Thebonesoftrees 4 місяці тому +2

    That logo. The spinning triangle. Thats a symbol used by people who traffic and prey in children…

    • @Fisherofmen144k
      @Fisherofmen144k 4 місяці тому

      I was looking for this comment i thought i was the only one that noticed

  • @JennTN411
    @JennTN411 5 місяців тому

    Remember the commercials that used to air in the 90s??
    'Can you read a book from a library on the other side of the world? You will.'
    I'm having some flashbacks with this short! 😮😮

  • @DeeegerD
    @DeeegerD 8 місяців тому +21

    These kids think the internet started with web pages 😂😅

    • @DwightLivesMatter
      @DwightLivesMatter 7 місяців тому +1

      Ikr lol

    • @thornback5641
      @thornback5641 7 місяців тому +1

      Also if they talking websites Hampster Dance should be included with a honorable mention its been going since 98 unchanged.

    • @sirllamaiii9708
      @sirllamaiii9708 7 місяців тому +1

      Doesn't mention BBS or IRC or anything like that. Sad!

    • @deus_ex_machina_
      @deus_ex_machina_ 7 місяців тому

      ​@@sirllamaiii9708Read the title.

    • @sirllamaiii9708
      @sirllamaiii9708 7 місяців тому

      @@deus_ex_machina_ I don't care about what's right or applicable to the context. I just want to feel like I'm in the know.

  • @kaksoispistev5403
    @kaksoispistev5403 8 місяців тому +24

    This is wrong . The oldest website is actually Oracle website for java

    • @CodingWithLewis
      @CodingWithLewis  8 місяців тому +17

      That's why it runs on billions of devices 🤯

    • @privy15
      @privy15 8 місяців тому +13

      Not sure if sarcastic, but HTML/WWW was invented at CERN...

    • @mcnugget3851
      @mcnugget3851 8 місяців тому +11

      @@privy15the joke is that oracles website is extremely outdated

    • @_drivEN_
      @_drivEN_ 8 місяців тому +3

      ​@mcnugget3851 I think they updated it last year

    • @tawonat7
      @tawonat7 8 місяців тому

      ​@@_drivEN_they updated it now its only outdated by a decade

  • @samsanimationcorner3820
    @samsanimationcorner3820 5 місяців тому

    One of my favorite 90s websites is Wet Leather. It's actually an cookbook ran by a bunch of bikers.

  • @user-jx1th8jz6y
    @user-jx1th8jz6y 5 місяців тому +2

    Funny looking triangle symbol they got there.

  • @SimonClarkstone
    @SimonClarkstone 8 місяців тому +4

    How could those oldest websites have been websites before the invention HTTP, HTML, and URLs? Or were they something else first and later became websites?

    • @stevebabiak6997
      @stevebabiak6997 8 місяців тому +4

      The earliest website technology was developed at two places in the very early 1990s: CERN in Europe and the University of Illinois at Urbana Champlain. Nuclear physics was being exchanged between those two. They each wrote their own web server software, the one from the USA evolved into the web server software known as Apache.

  • @theghost9362
    @theghost9362 8 місяців тому +4

    Goooood old times

  • @Zak_Nike
    @Zak_Nike 5 місяців тому

    They have utterly ruined the internet

  • @tippy651
    @tippy651 5 місяців тому +1

    Anyone else saving the vidoe so they can check them out later? 😅