BEFORE you run a generator: mistakes that cost $$$ What you need to know!
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- Generators aren't cheap, and the dealers don't tell you about a lot of these do's and don'ts. Learn from Brad's mistakes! We found the Honda EU 7000 at Home Depot USA: homedepot.sjv.io/QOO6VM Sometimes it's also at Amazon USA: amzn.to/2NGxfZJ
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Tells you right in the manual what oil to run in the winter.
Oh boy, I'm so glad you did this video to help all of us out here I appreciate it so very much.
My pleasure, happy to have helped!
Excellent vid! Thank you. 579 hours on mine that I purchased 4 years ago. Recently I had some issues with the auto-start - I think some components inside got wet? I had to pull-start it a couple of times, and even that seemed sticky. But after I pull-start it and run it for a couple of hours, the auto-start works ok next day or so. Yes, great generator. Used it fulltime for 9 mos when living in RV building house. Now have used it w manual hookup for house a few times. I need the 7000 watts to start my well pump which is big cuz big tank etc for livestock; so my power allows me to turn that on or turn house on; inside house, I can use circuits selectively which I think is also a smart idea.
Hi Brad,
Great Review Brad 👍
I have the same generator, however you need to tell folks that the continuous run watts is actually 5500 watts. The surge is another 1500 watts. That would be for cold load pick up or cycling of the appliance on & off. It’s an awesome generator! I have used it three times already for back up power at my house. Each time it performed flawlessly. Your right in telling folks that it needs to operate outside the home. Never in an enclosed space. Carbon monoxide is no joke. It’s totally invisible & will kill occupants of a home very easily if they don’t have a working carbon monoxide detector in the house. I had mine professionally wired by a licensed electrician for my house with an interlock. One feature you forgot to mention was that there is a ground stud on the bottom of the generator on the same side as the oil dip stick. This is critical because if it’s not connected to a ground rod? Static electricity will build up throughout the unit while it is running & may shock anyone touching it? That shock might be enough to stop a heart? Mine is grounded to a separate driven 8’ ground rod just for the generator. We have a 2200 sqft house with central air. I modified my 2-1/2 ton condenser so I can pick it up with my generator. Then with careful manipulation back feed my entire house as well in the summer time. Just note that the more load on a generator the more gasoline it burns. With the central A/C on. I had to have the economy mode OFF. I got 8 hours run time with 3800 watts continuous load with everything on.
Just so everyone understands what the reviewer is talking about? Brad refers to really clean power? He is referring to 60 cycle power. That is a component of electricity that is never mentioned. Power companies are required to provide this when providing power. Portable generators don’t provide this unless it’s an inverter generator. Dirty power can & will destroy anything that is micro processor controlled. Most every new appliance today has this built into them. Usually after big storms, people need to replace their appliances because they burned them up with a cheap mass merchant retailed generator.
I would like to hear more about grounding. I recently moved my generator from outside on the dirt up onto my deck under a porch roof...
@@janepipkin8139 You may not know this but a generator can make static electricity by virtue that it makes power. To dissipate that, most have a grounding lug on the chassis. I ground mine to a ground rod driven completely into the earth. I use sturdy wire to provide a path to ground. The last thing you need is to have a spark while your refueling your generator. Or getting belted off the case while touching the controls? Or plugging a device into an outlet on your generator.
If you have a small portable under 3000 watts? It may not have one?
@@johnclyne6350 thank you; I have a bigger one, IS7000EU, and I'll figure out how to ground it.
@@janepipkin8139
Congradulations on buying the BEST rollout generator money can buy! You won’t be disappointed by it!
If you need help grounding your generator?
I would hire an electrician.
The other option which is cheaper is to use the ground rod at your meter can. Depending on the size of your electric service? You might have 2? I would have a piece of wire long enough to reach your generator location. Connect your wire to one ground rod. The other to the chassis of the generator. Make sure your connections are tight!
Hence why I recommend an electrician. The electrician could install an inlet for your generator cord nearest your generator. Either an interlock or a transfer switch should be installed as well. Generators can make lethal voltage & current if not installed correctly.
I have a inverter generator from Briggs and Stratton
Thanks for your time and excellent instruction: well worth watching.
thank you, and thanks for watching!
Thanks for sharing your video. Real good info.
The Honda EU7000is has an optional Hanger/Lift Kit that clamps onto the top rails to pick it up from a single balanced central point that makes winching/craning it up much safer.
good to know, thanks!!
I use nylon straps to lift mine. Pace them right in the middle and it will perfectly balance.
I wheel mine sidewise into loader bucket of tractor and then.... It is still a task. Need to tilt and raise bucket slowly (fortunately can do from the ground).
When you're using your adapter that plugs into that 240 volt twist lock, it sounds like you're only using 120 volt tools on it. So you should actually leave your 120/ 240 switch in 120 mode. That will evenly spread the loads across both of the inverters and the inverters will sink up a 120 volt signal instead of a split phase 240
Thanks Brad. Bought one today.
It's a workhorse!
Have had one of these for 3 years now. Some things of interest, those side doors lift up and come off very easily in case you have one that's swinging shut on you while you're either doing an oil change or spark plug/filter change. And if you're only going to use it intermittently, use ethanol free fuel. It will stay stabilized longer (6 months), especially if you also add a fuel stabilizer (up to a year) and prolong the fuel system parts. Finally, if you do leave the key on accidentally, you don't need to change or charge the battery. Just open the side door and pull start it. It will recharge the dead battery while it runs over about an hour.
I have a whole home hookup here in Texas and have used it for the last 3 years for multi-day power outages.
Nice! It really is an awesome unit. I don’t think I’ll ever need to buy a new one.
Thanks for watching
Great video. Thank you for your time and sharing!
You can put a lanyard on your key and not leave it in when your not using it. If it's not hanging you might have the key in the on position. I have the same generator. They are excellent. I use mine for power outages and only use high octane fuel that is Ethanol free. It's more expensive but doesn't go stale. There is a heater kit for cold weather operation you can install on your generator from Honda. There is also a way to use the generator's own heat to keep it warm during cold weather so it doesn't ice up. Read the owner's manual.
Thanks for your video!!! Great explanation much appreciated.👏👏👏👏
Good info.
Thanks and blessings to you all 🙏🙏👍👍👍
I run one as a backup generator (generac quoted $11k for their smallest unit, and if I moved it would have to stay) just make sure using the 240v side each leg is balanced. Yes I run my whole (1500 sqft bungalow) house including Ac. However the stove, dryer and HWT are gas. I also wired the generator with a proper generator panel. Most important when doing a house backup.
Generac does provide a auto transfer switch and runs on natural gas which would be nice, but to me it wasn’t worth the extra costs.
I use two of these at work. One of them is at 7200 running hours now and still works great.
That’s great to hear! I love them, especially how quiet they are
Thank you. Great information. Have a great day!
Thanks 😊 you as well
Bro you need to have your Honda hooked up to a battery tender jr! Battery will never die. Have had mine for 10 years and never changed battery
You’re right! Thx. , I’m going to get one right away
Cheers
Yep! Fully agree! Bought a battery maintainer from Scrappy Tire for 50 $ plus tax when I bought my EU 7000is. When I start my generator, the battery is always full with the battery maintainer. Interestingly, if I only use the generator for about 20 min., when I hook back up the battery maintainer, its charge level gauge tells me that the battery is only at about 75% of its capacity. Said otherwise, the generator starting process consumes a lot of energy and it’s going to take a while for the generator to charge its battery back up to a full charge. So, a battery maintainer is a must.
Thanks for the time you put in!
Thanks David
Outstanding video. Thanks.
Thank you!!
"Dirty power" damages batteries? Have you told all the contractors across the country that use non-inverter generators to charge their batteries?
Great video . Good job
Thank you and thanks for watching!
Muchas gracias por este gran vídeo
Thanks for the video.
You are welcome! thanks for watching
Very informative thank you so much
Glad it was helpful!
I have had the generator for 3 days now, it runs my Fronius welding inverter better than any welding generator I've ever ran. Thank you again for your thorough review and tutorial.
I WILL be putting premium fuel in her 😉
Thanks!
You’re welcome 👍
Great video. I hope Dewalt sponsors you. You could be a museum for their products.
😂
Thanks for the real world experiences, thoughts on oil, etc. What fuel grade does Honda suggest?
87 Octane.
Thanks for the video !!!
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
Great video. Thank you.
You’re welcome, thanks for watching!
Great content. Helpful. I think you left the key in the on position. You'll drain the battery.
That’s very true and I have done that in the past 😬 cheers
From page 50 of the manual, this unit is certified to run on regular fuel; you don't need premium fuel.
Yeah I don’t know why they told me premium.
Cheers
I use premium because where I live it's the only grade that's ethanol free. No corn!
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Nice. Thanks
What type of oil do you suggest to use for the winter? Also what type of battery does this use?
Looks like a great generator.
it sure is, thanks for watching
Thanks.
You're welcome
I bought one of these last March. I learned a few things from your video. But why do you use premium gas? Did you find a reference that this generator needs it? I just use ethanol free gas even then I put STA-BIL in it just in case. Thank you.
Honda told me that it would prolong the engine and I think I saw it in a video as well.
@@hammerandhome a lot of bikers will drive to the gas stations that have ethanol free fuel. Makes these small engines run better and longer.
Do you have the valve clearance adjusted every 300 hours and have you had the combustion chamber cleaned after 3000 hours?
FYI... It's not that little lighted screen that kills the battery when you leave the switch on. When the switch is on the entire ignition system is on. That is why the battery will drain.
that makes more sense , thank you for that!
@@hammerandhome The VA setting for the display shows the current generator load. It's almost the same as watts, so your 7000w generator can handle 7000VA
Good job
thank you!
where did you get the extender cap?
Thanks for the video. I am debating purchasing the 2021 model. Am I wrong or is the pull cord frayed by defect and rubbing inside? I note that it appeared to be worn and black? Another YT video on the EU2200i had the same issue. Thanks
Mine is 3 years old and in perfect condition.
I looked into it, and I like my Harbor Freight Predator 9500 more than the Honda (it's much cheaper, but great value and awesome competition).
Good to know. I haven’t used that brand
On your champion, check to be sure your knuckle didn't push the rest switch. It won't start if that button is pushed.
Nice video and generator. Manual clearly says 86 octane or higher nothing about premium gas. It won’t make any difference. People who put premium in there cars where it is not specified because they think it makes it better do that too
I’ve used my DeWalt battery charger just fine on my generator. It all comes down to THD and most generators are fine from that perspective in my experience. 5k is a lot but that’s a great generator
yeah since i posted this video i no longer use premium, not sure why the sales guy told me too.
Cheers
What size generator would i need to run my hvac on my house? I have a plug in to plug up a generator to my houses electric needs
Over filling can cause major issues if fuel gets into the breather pipe and evaporator canister. You also talked about not leaving the power switch on, and then you immediately leave the power switch on in the video. LOL. There's also nasty gunk/fuel on top of the tank...that Honda deserves an exterior cleaning. I'm keeping mine in like new condition as long as I can. Great genny!
yeah LOL, I noticed i did that in the vid. do as I say not as I do haha, and it definitely needs a good cleaning, thanks for watching
@@hammerandhome Not sure how old your model is, but mine is about 18 months old, doesn't have the new Co-minder technology or the output covers, but the display does turn off after about a minute if the switch is left in the on position without the generator running.
@@browsedeweb8834 they must have fixed that problem. Mine is 5 years old.
Curious if over filling could end up with fuel In the oil? Over filled mine last weekend but didn't think anything about. Had a no start issue today and noticed the oil was FULL of fuel. Changed the oil and checked everything and eventually got it fired back up but pretty concerned about how that much fuel got in the oil
You could use Battery Tender to keep the battery fresh and ready. Also you could use gasoline with gasoline stabilizer. I like to store the generator with an empty tank if possible so gas in the tank doesn't get old. Storing the gas in exyernal 5 gallon cans means that you can cycle through those cans fueling your car so you'll always have fresh gas ready when the power fails and you need to start the generator. The hanger lift kit is highly recommended. I use it to lift the generator by a hook and chain attached to the front loader of my little Kubota tractor.
Nice 👍 all great tips,
have a good one
Thumbs up !
And it reminds me of my honda three wheelers, still run. But newer equipment is much nicer.
Thanks!
I do like the new Bluetooth model they have of this. But bottom line for me is it’s dependable and fairly quiet. That’s the problem with the Honda generator, it never dies, so you don’t have a reason to get the new model 😂
Cheers
@@hammerandhome you're almost talking me into buying one. But i already have a 8000 generac and a 4500 champion (no honda). My favorite gen is was actually a little 2100 i could carry around. Convenience compared to trailering the 8000 remarkable.
I see some dialogue about the fuel in the comments. 86 or higher is what's recommended. Higher octane is its inability to burn. Those are used in higher compression engines to prevent early detonation caused by the heat during compression. Also, run that generator on eco mode all of the time. There's nothing in your household that requires it to be taken off of eco. Your generator will spool right up. I like the auxiliary tank add on. That Honda generator has fuel pump in it which is why that can be done. Not sure why you had an issue with the Champions. I have 4 of them for 13 years. As long as you shut the fuel off after each run and let the carburetor drain, although not an issue with fuel injection.
Nice review.
It's not wise to fill a running/hot genny..... Its very hard to put the fire out! Trust me I'm speaking from experience.... If you must fill it then make damn sure you don't over fill or spill any petrol... This goes for any petrol generator.... Always have a blanket and water or a fire extinguisher within reach its easier than you think to set the thing on fire. This goes for any petrol motor really..... Petrol is the real issue.
One more reason to run a diesel unit. Yes, I know there are drawbacks.
I have an auxiliary fuel tank on my set up. The EU 7000is has a fuel pump that siphons fuel from the auxiliary first before it uses fuel from the main tank in my experience. I only fill the auxiliary which is at ground level. The fuel transfer pump I use is a HMC 30 gallon. It’s specifically set up to transfer gasoline. (They make a diesel & one for hydraulic oil). The tank is grounded through a wire & alligator clip to a ground rod. The hose has a wire ground in it as well bonded to the inside of the tank. I can pump at any speed fuel from the transfer tank to the auxiliary tank by way of a manual pump. It will siphon fuel by turning the handle backwards just as well. I’ve done my homework, HMC makes THE BEST FUEL TRANSFER PUMP. Infact when I ordered mine there was a 12 week back order. Hurricane Maria had hit Puerto Rico a few months before. HMC was the vendor providing pumps to FEMA in Puerto Rico. As well as Honda generators. It took my dealer 12 weeks to find one buried in the basement of another dealer’s business out of state. Honda was indefinitely out of stock for the same reason. I was very lucky to have had a dealer that resourceful.
Have you tried heat tape on the aux gas line to keep it from icing up?
One thing I would say is about the eco mode
About the only time it shouldn't be on is if your load is rapidly being turned on and off for exsample a jack hammer
Other than that even if you're using a skill saw for exsample eco mode is compleatly fine
Totally agree
The EU7000is has a 12V fuel pump underneath the silver plastic corner piece on the top of the fuel tank.
another great tip!
Yeah, I found this, thought it was just held in place with friction clips and the 10mm bolt on the side/roll bar. Then trying to get the cover off for troubleshooting it wasn't coming off. Then thanks to UA-cam another video showed that the black rubber peels back exposing the 2 other 10mm nuts. Then it gives you access to the fuel pump/ filter, which by the way isn't a bad idea to keep a spare filter on hand!!! I didn't have one, but do now! Great generator though, can't beat the noise or lack of while running. Also 1 other quick note, the 2 front feet are held on with 2 metric bolts (12mm I think). They can vibrate loose and fall out, I had that happen and when loading on my Harbor Freight wheelchair rack, the foot twisted and got stuck in the slot. So they got pulled out and they were put back in with loctite.
Hi, can you use a welding machine with it?
I am a Canadian too. Bought this unit a year ago along with the Generlink. Still have 0 hours on it because we haven't had a power outage. Lol. I am wondering if I should just run it for 5 hours and do the break in oil change or just do that once I actually use it in a real power outage scenario.
I would run it, break it in now before you actually need it.
You might want to run it to remove any stale fuel in the tank? Unless you don’t fill it until you need to use it? I use Stabil marine grade fuel stabilizer with Star Tron fuel enzyme because mine has to be available 24/7 in case of a power outage. Nine times out of ten I’m not home & at work when the power goes out. I want my wife to be able to rely on it to get the house back on. Last thing I need to hear is it won’t start? I test mine about every other month. One month without load. The other with it connected to the house load. You need to exercise it to make sure it works. Leaving it without starting could lead to a dead battery or worse.
I own the Honda EU6500 with 93 hours on it and it is as you say a superb generator. I only use synthetic oil in it which ensures it doesn't thicken during cold weather, and change it once a year regardless of the amount of usage on it. Never tried an auxiliary tank and don't think I will as it runs long enough just as it is.
This generator has superb resale value. I bought it used but almost new for $3700 Canadian and know I can sell it for more if I so choose. It is my home backup power source through a Reliance transfer switch and has saved the day many times.
Long after the price is forgotten, the quality lives on.
right on, thanks for sharing. i definitely feel more comfortable knowing i have one of these. losing power in the winter or any time can be an awful time.
Use synthetic oil like for cars? And gas unleaded 87? It’s my first time to touch this kind of generator soon
@@joylitz2477 Yes Joy. Most synthetic oil makes the motor run smoother and more efficient because they lubricate better and don't gum up in cold weather. Depending on your area 05-30 Mobil 1 synthetic will work well in cold and hot weather. Also run super unleaded and Sta Bil Marine 360 which cleans the fuel injectors and stabilizes the gas for cold weather...
Keep that EU6500, it's much simpler and robust compared to the newest model. Leave it to your grandchildren!😆
@@bruceeverett5372 Well, it and my Generlink transfer switch are part of my permanent power backup solution. It's paid for; it's quiet as hell; it generates far more power than I need and only the 220 volt clothes dryer max's it out for output. When the huge storm came through a while ago, I used the generator for 117 hours total run time, for about a $1 a litre cost which was nothing really. I had four neighbours plugged in as well and the Honda handled all the loads with power to spare. Saved one neighbour about $1000 worth of meat in his freezer (he bought me a large bottle of my favourite whiskey..) Only turned it off when i went to bed and locked it up firmly hidden from view in an out building. I drain the carb gas and use stabilizer in the gas, plus keep the battery on a tender permanently, plus run it once a month to distribute the synthetic oil through the engine parts.
In total it cost me half the price of a Generac permanent solution with no concerns about placement or noisy operation....win win....
The excess fuel will end up in the crank case when you move the generator around, based on passed experience. Remove the excess fuel before moving.
Good to know, I do drive around with this in a trailer a lot. Never had an issue with it.
Add: Magnetic drain plug and a magnetic dipstick, always use synthetic oil, mine ran well over three months non stop except for fuel/maintenance after a hurricane. Also, I replaced the battery with a lithium one, and when not in use, connected to a battery tender. another addition was an iridium spark plug, they last a lot longer. Been like that since 2017, no issues. Update: got a second Honda EU7000is, this one 2021. Even better than the older, has remote start from the phone. Already added a magnetic dipstick, as soon as I do the first oil change , I'll replace the drain plug with a magnetic one. Forgot to mention, I have used synthetic oil since my first generator in 1999. Brand new: conventional oil for the first 20 hours, afterwards, Mobil One 10W30 or if it is for winter use, whatever grade you use in the north, but use synthetic.
Great tips!! thanks
I did a lithium battery on my EU6500IS. Glad I did.
Jose,
Thanks for the great tips on your generator! I’m always looking for others with great tips on their application! Like you I don’t go for out of the box set ups. I strive for better / less disappointments down the road. 👍🏻👊🏻
Is there a link you can provide for the magnetic dip stick & drain plug? I already run full synthetic motor oil in mine after the break in period.
Also where did you find the lithium battery for yours? I went with a straight replacement battery from Interstate. My original was 3 years old. Even though I have a trickle charger for my battery. I don’t like taking chances. If you could provide the link for that as well? All of it would be greatly appreciated! Thank you in advance for your assistance!
Magnetic drain plugs principal is great idea, I've heard of the magnet coming off and ruining the engine, so I wouldn't go there.
@@antpart7998 A large magnet stuck to the bottom of the sump works well for keeping ferrous materials down there , although it's nearly all alloy dust in these motors .
Just to set it straight, modern chargers and power supplies are switchers. What ever you feed it is immediately rectified and filtered into unregulated HVDC then the switcher turns this into a rock stabile output for the device. Look on the charger label and you see any voltage from 80-240 volts is fine. It will even run on DC in this range. The sine wave problem was with those old HEAVY, transformer input power supplies that went crazy spiking a noisy, non-sine input like a spark coil. New power bricks are very light and have no transformer. They're fine on any old waveform but the old wives tale persists. Your laptop power supply runs fine on any genset.
Great info, thanks Larry!
My Honda EU6500i ran for a lousy 32 hours until the inverter went out. I bought it new. It was past warranty date, so even though almost brand new… Honda declined to give me any kind of break or discount on the $1,750 repair bill.
Ouch! Thats brutal!
What oil recomend is the best to use for this generator?
Thank you
I run Amsoil small engine 5w30. Good for 200hrs. Check it out!!!
I live in Washington State so the normal winter temp is around 28 to 30 degrees f. will I still need to replace oil with a thinner grade?? Thanks for your tips!
I think if you notice it having trouble starting when its cold you might want to put some thinner oil in. but I think you will be ok with out, especially if your using synthetic thanks for watching
What does the manufacturer recommend?
It's in the OWNER MANUAL
question can you plug anything into the 120/240 plug in Im afraid to use it. Im thinking its too much power
You can connect anything you wish without fear.
The load you plug in will take only the power it needs, no more. As long as you're using the right connectors (ones that fit correctly) and manufactured, you'll be fine. If you make your own cords, you could do that incorrectly if you're not already well versed on that wiring.
can i use this (Honda generator diesel eu7000is) for desktop computer (500W, 240V, 4A, or above) with no problem? if there's problem, what solution/s? using a AVR or something? .
I think you can, using an inverter generator is all about clean sine wave energy, that being said it couldn't hurt to investigate a bit more.
Question can you tell me is that unit mouse proof is that unit case tight so mouses can get in and eat wires. Great review thank you
It’s pretty tight. I can’t see a mouse wanting to get inside unless there was food in it. Lol, I can’t see any issues and if there was a small hole, you could plug it with steel wool.
Had a mouse and start of a nest in EU7000is. She got in through exhaust port. Good God I hate mice! Got her in time!
Did anyone else notice at the end of the video, he left the switch on. I guess he likes buying batteries....lol
Thanks for watching the entire video!!
the newer version of this model generator looks quite a bit different with the Bluetooth option, plug covers and other upgrades.
Fun fact: The Bluetooth version isn't available in Canada for some reason. I bought EU2200 model last year thinking it was available with Bluetooth but it wasn't. We still don't have it here.
FYI you still have to buy and install (plug n play) an additional $300 remote start kit which includes the Bluetooth receiver (transmitter only is installed out of the box!) to use the Bluetooth capability. It doesn't pair up right out of the box without additional hardware.
Would you recommend using fuel stabilizer to mitigate the effects of ethanol or is this not a problem with this unit since it is fuel injected?
good question, i dont have the answer for you. you could call honda service and i bet they could help.
Lucas sell a product that neutralizes the ethanol. I use it just in case.
I use Stabil in all my small engines especially the ones that use gas that has been sitting around awhile. I can routinely keep ethanol based fuels for over a year easily with Stabil in them...available in Canada here at Candian tire.
@@TOURMANBOB Stabil Marine 360 is the best product in the Stabil line... I've run it for years and have yet to have any issues with my carburetors/fuel injectors in cold or hot weather. I also only use super unleaded.
@@petedetraglia4776 Yes, I run medium grade unleaded in my boat, generators(3), snowblower, and pressure washer without any trouble as long as I add Stabil to the gas. Gas lasts easily over a year
ehhh, the types of loads are resistive, capacitive and inductive loads (capacitive and inductive are almost always together). You can charge your batteries just fine on modified sine wave inverters, because those are resistive loads. All 120/240vac generators have inverters. Some of the generator inverters are pure sine wave, and most generator inverters are modified sine wave inverters.
You *should* use pure sine wave inverters to power anything with an AC electric motor, like your AC, blenders, AC corded electric drills, or your refrigerator. Your fridge has an AC powered electric scroll compressor in it, and it does not like the square wave output of a modified sine wave inverter. It's not that it is feeding it dirty power, its that the power it is getting doesn't cycle smoothly; it is a [mostly] square wave. A cheap Chinese modified inverter generator might put out "dirty" power, but most of your electrical equipment wouldn't know it.
All that being said, a modified sine wave will power things like LEDs and incandescent bulbs, electric blankets, your laptop, your battery chargers for your milwaukee, your dewalt, yada yada. In fact, it will do it more efficiently than a pure sine wave inverter generator. With a pure sine wave inverter you get a real sine wave, a smooth sine wave to power inductive/capacitive loads, but it does so at a cost. There's more loss, more heat loss in the circuits creating that perfect sine wave. *In a perfect world, you would use two generators: one for your inductive loads that have ac powered electric motors, and one for your resistive loads that do not have motors or moving parts in them.* But, many people get confused, have short attention spans or care about what is required for what, and most people would not want to have to hassle with two generators, and knowing in which to type to plug their AC powered goodies. A pure sine wave inverter can power anything and everything AC.
Great info! thanks for sharing you knowledge!! it's definitely confusing for most.
Thanks 🙂
@@hammerandhome It was to me, sort of. I am just lucky I have formal education and training in electronics. Think of the way an AC electric motor turns; it needs that smooth alternating current swooping up and down to make it rotate nice and smoothly. Feeding those motors a square wave or modified sine wave makes them heat up, make noise, and run poorly and inefficiently.
Cheers Brad!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🚀🚀🚀
Thanks 😊
Is the eu 2200 Honda and inverter generator?Providing clean sine wave power?
I haven’t used the 2200. Check with a Honda dealer and they will answer any questions you have
Great video. However, just to point out, this Honda is 7,000 STARTING WATTS, but only 5,500 running watts. Just keep that in mind as you determine whether or not it can run your house. There are cheaper inverter generators (predator, duromax) that are more powerful (each around 7.6kw running) and cheaper that might fit the bill.
Good to know, cheers,
Great great info! Thanks. (Also, I’m pretty sure I’d die in a Canadian winter🥶 ).
Yeah we don't recommend them lol
Outstanding comparison! I am convinced I'll go for the Predator, after all i can buy 2 Predators for the price of 1 Honda. Loved how you showed how to change the oil. Thought the CO test in the tent was also great! Loved also the perfect sine test, who has demostrated that? Harbor Freight prices rock! Thank you.
Your handle on UA-cam starts as “audiophile”. I’m an audiophile myself. I desire to get the best generator on the market. Just like I expect to get the best sound within my price range. Honda generators are not as expensive as a McIntosh amplifier.
You talk about summer and winter weight oils. The owners manual only recommends 5W30 or 10W30 and that chart only goes down to about 5 degrees farenheit. Is there other guidance for colder temps that I'm missing.
Admittedly, I’m a Florida boy and we don’t have artic conditions, but a synthetic 5W30 has good cold flow properties down to really cold. If it’s super cold, you could run a synthetic 0W30 oil. In Florida , we lose power in hurricane season when it’s 95 degrees outside … I’d personally bump the viscosity up to a SAE40 or 15W40 for my location .
The first number (before W) stands for "Viscosity Winter". So a lower number is better for cold start. The 30 is the "warm viscosity"
Is it ok to use ethanol- free gas in it ? And would ethanol-free be better than premium gas ?
Yes and yes, but typically that won't be important. Other things will make more difference than that.
I just went through the manual, on page 54 it said octane rating 86 or higher and no more than 10% ethanol. With fuel price high and premium fuel cost $2 dollars more than regular, it's a huge difference. I would take some serious points off the unit if only premium fuel required when 85% of the country is living pay check to pay check.
How can I buy this Honda generator 10000 kw in Pakistan.
Thanks for the info! Cheers
I agree, there's no need to run higher octane fuel in a generator unless you've added a turbocharger or otherwise increased the compression ratio for some odd reason. It doesn't give more power or leave less residue or anything like that, it prevents detonation in the combustion chamber from higher compression engines (also known as pinging or engine knock).
If you store fuel a while, it's better to have higher octane, ideally non-oxy (along with stabilizer), since octane will lower over time. If you're putting it in to use right away, then of course the 87 is fine.
If the difference between e free premium and road gas 86 with 10% is going to break you on a generator burning less than half a gallon per hr then you probably shouldn't be buying a $5k generator
Has anyone bridged two of these yet? There’s a Honda kit to do it but can’t find much on it and my application is alittle heavier than average.
Your switch is still on!
You left your key turned on again to kill your battery.
We need one for our church, used but in good condition. Must be quiet not too loud because we use it for speakers and music.
the honda Generators are very quiet, you can have a regular conversation while standing beside them
What do you think of Dewalt tools?
I love them , but I also love a lot of other brands. To many choices
My new predetor 9500 inverter is awesome. But this honda is the holy grail. I wish mine had a screen showing how many watts and amps your using. Is there anything i can get to show this info?
I was getting a Predator but a Honda showed up (new) in the Facebook market. This is my number 2.
Iam looking for the samething too....
Buy yourself two of these - DROK AC Power Meter, AC 80-300V 100A Voltage Current Color LCD Display Panel - make your own project box. Works great less than $50.!!
@@markhunt6573 Buy yourself two of these - DROK AC Power Meter, AC 80-300V 100A Voltage Current Color LCD Display Panel - make your own project box. Works great less than $50.!!
I have this generator but it's not putting out power to the outlets. I thought of changing the regulator but I cant find it. Any help would be appreciated.
Check fuses
Can I ask a question? How long does that generator last if u take good care of it? How many hours?
Probably for ever. They are built very well, I have a few thousand hours on mine and it still runs perfect
I wonder if you could tell me the difference from a inverter generator and a generator powering your home? I was told a generator powering your home is an alternating current generator with alternating since wave of positive and negative cycling otherwise known as alternating current. The inverter generator takes the alternating sine wave (positive and negative) and converts it to a steady line sine wave otherwise known as direct current for 12 volts or more. This is the way I understand the difference between both generators. Does that make any sense to you?
Both generator types put out AC (alternating current). The difference is how that ac power is made. On a non inverter generator, the engine turns the rotor of the generator (this time the electrical part, not the gas engin + electrical combo) with the exact speed to produce 60hz, meaning the engine has to run at (in most types) 3000 rpm. This causes a higher fuel consumption, but can handle loadspikes better. (Think of letting a car clutch come at idle, where you can stall the engine vs stepping slightly on the gas pedal to have higher engine rpm and more torque available).
The inverter generator has a simelar gas engin + electrical generator combination but after that is also an inverter which takes an arbitrary voltage and frequency (depending on the engine speed) and converts that to a sine wave (AC) with 60Hz and 120V. (Or 2x120v for 240v in larger generators). This allows the engine to run slower and thus use less fuel in low load conditions, but has the drawbach that the enginge can't handle huge load spikes, resulting in a stalling motor. If you switch off the eco throttle, the engine will run constantly at higher rpm, use more fuel but can handle the load spikes.
One example is a huge arconditioner or fridges. (My fridge i.e. uses 50w when it runs but neeeds 1000w to start.)
The benefit of traditional generators is that they don't have complicated electronics inside (aka the inverter portion) so they can handle more abuse (voltage spikes produced from switching off large motors etc.), so if you're using it for a job side, a standard generator may be better. If you want to power your house an inverter generator can be quieter, use less fuel and produce cleaner power, so that sensitive electronics like led light bulbs won't get damaged so easily.
Inverters (just the electronics) are also availabe in a form that can ve powerd from batteries. That option is used to hook up solar panels, for batteries in campers to keep noise down and many other cases. These are fed with dc current from the batteries or solar panel etc. and convert that to ac (i.e. 120v 60hz).
Concerning the steady line sinus thing:
All ac power is more or less a sine wave. The issue is how much that sine wave is deformed, has sudden spikes etc.
These voltage spikes, and other deformations cann damage i.e. led light bulbs, TVs, etc.. An inverter generator normaly does not produce these spikes and thus will be safer for delicate electronics.
A good standard generator also shouldn't produce these spikes but ceap ones can do that.
An inverter generator produces direct current & then converts it to 60 cycle alternating current. The power coming out is perfect 60 cycle sine wave power. With modern homes with virtually every house having appliances with micro-processors built into them. Anything other than pure sine wave will damage the sensitive electronics within them. So for folks buying all purpose generators to power up their homes? Good luck. I have heard these same people are shopping for new appliances after major storms.
I was at a customers business for a planned outage on a Friday afternoon. He didn’t want to pay the power company to provide a generator for the weekend while his electrician was performing scheduled work at his business. He went on the cheap & used two roll out conventional generators from his home. As soon as I cut the power at the building. He started up his generators & connected them with his electrician to his router for internet sales. Well guess what? It wouldn’t turn on? The following Monday I returned to replace the service drop & hook it up. The business owner was virtually crying because he could only take phone orders. He figured he lost $10,000 in internet sales over the weekend? Penny wise & pound foolish. He operated a lumber business.
I like my 6500 but I'm wondering where you came up with the "premium fuel only" if you want it to last a long time. My unit is 9 years old & runs fine. What octane is recommended in your owner's manual?
the honda tech told me to only run Premium
@@hammerandhome That's likely only because the lower the alcohol content, the longer the gas will remain stable and usable, since generators are stored long periods of time with no use.
I've had mine since '15 and only ran 82 octane and honda oil. Oil changes and duty cycle are all that matter
I just went through the manual, on page 54 it said octane rating 86 or higher and no more than 10% ethanol. With fuel price high and premium fuel cost $2 dollars more than regular, it's a huge difference. I would take some serious points off the unit if only premium fuel required when 85% of the country is living pay check to pay check.
@@foodparadise5792 86 or higher is the recommended octane rating. but anyone with this generator is not living paycheck to paycheck and personally use 93 octane for mine. cheaper brands of generators out there
Hey isn’t that true hing fuel injected?
Which is the most quieter generator in the 5 to 7000 watts
Eu7000is
This Honda generator looks like it might be water resistant with the plastic enclosures. I guess with all of the plastic enclosures the unit will not overheat is that correct? I know it's air cooled so, how does the air get in?
The air inlet is in the front below the control panel.
do you use just the regular 87 grade gasoline in the gas station?
The manual says.....
@@georgekatsinis5224- says >86 octane
I got 3 of these and still have 2. Had nothing but trouble with them. Honda had a unit in and out of the shop several times. Had one in for 3 MONTHS and Honda would NOT change it out. They also did not record some of the problems it had so they didn’t have to cover it or have record of it.
that sounds super shady! sorry you had to go through that!
You were unlucky! You got the lemons from the assembly line. Doubt that anyone here has used theirs like I did. Mine ran almost 24/7 for 4 months right after a cat 5 hurricane. We were without power for over 4 months. That Honda performed flawlessly. So good that I bought a second one.
@@jvazquez53 glad you didn’t have same experience I did. However Honda did not stand behind it even when it was under warranty. They were terrible to deal with on phone and customer paid for it.
@@Baseballisbest67 yikes! So what do you have now, if you don't mind?
@@Baseballisbest67 What were the problems please ?
My Honda dealer said the EU7000 was designed for regular gas.
thats what im finding too, thanks for watching
dam... I've been charging all my tools with mine
Can someone tell me how I can get a replacement key for my eu7000 . I list my key . Please help
Call up Honda
Can you run this unit on propane gas?
There are after market kits you can find on the internet. I have seen them however just note you’ll burn more propane compared to gasoline. Gasoline has more power per gallon except compared to diesel. Propane has more power than natural gas though.
“No one tells you what kinda oil to put it” he’s answer put in good winter oil for winter......?
Do you use any of the tools behind you ? Or is it advertising for DeWalt
Yes I use my tools 🤣 , I have no affiliation with any brands unfortunately