Slight tangent: Those blue dampeners are available online on the usual sites (Amazon, eBay etc. or your local e-waste recycler). You might be aware already but they were used in many non-laptop HP systems for who knows how many years, so they ought to still be plentiful. I bought some for an HP mini-tower I had years ago.
It was a good tech in the days of trying to make mechanical drives faster.. but these days you can get a brand new 500gb nvme with 5 year warranty for 25 usd.. 39Aud here in australia.
Optane is GOLD, but what you show in video only supported up to Z590 M2 16/32/64gb. Buy 900/905/4800/5800 disk and use them as cache on all new platforms with Primocache and you will have same results !.
It started out simple and then when I tried to reproduce things and make it easy it went south. I figured though that if it was something available as an option I should report on it.
i have been using since the beginning, i have 64gb versions, i use with WD Black drive, but i use as secondary storage, i have all my games or files on it, now i use some, with Primo Cache Pro, as the L2 drive. they work great to speed up a 22tb red pro also. they are still useful.
Interesting. I received one of these for free and always wondered how it worked. I do not have a system that would take advantage of it though. So at this point it will have to be turned into a keychain LOL.
Optane is/was a crutch, not an answer. I've found that it helped with some day-to-day computer operations, but extensive HD writes were not among them. Boot times improved because Optane stored the relevant files in what amounted to a fast but small SSD. Save yourselves the time and trouble our content provider expended getting the Optane system to work - get an SSD. Better yet, get some NVMe drives and build some wind chimes using the platters from your HDDs.
@@handmedowntech they also speed up normal ssd`s to 16000mb/s !. So its kinda sad they stopped making these drives. Currently im on a z690 platform and i have some 900p optane ssd`s 280gb, and with the little optane m2 in front of optane 900p i can get insane speeds like 30000mb/s with primocache. So its not only HDD drives !.
@@handmedowntechIt definitely can. Intel's drivers only support Optane-SATA pairs, but with PrimoCache you could also use it to accelerate USB SSDs and HDDs. That can be a big advantage, especially on mini systems without a ton of slots/ports.
You're just asking/answering a different question. Optane is still an answer - and probably the best answer - for a lot of builds. Servers running lots of docker containers and/or NAS builds will benefit from Optane caching far beyond what can be accomplished once your NVME slots are full. And NVME is still slower than Optane on random read-write. The only way to get all the advantages is with both NVME and Optane.
Just put i some teamextreme, 4000 ddr4 64gin system, (max 3466) Lots of ram for ebooster (n ram drive) prefetch, and primocache, still leaving 16g free
I have a Dell Inspiron 3891 with Intel Quad and video. I got it without a HDD or SSD, etc. I installed a 480gb SSD via a USB adapter and have a 500gb NVMe installed (It's a new project). Am I assuming correctly that I do not need Intel Optane.
Wow, just get an SSD...end of problem. Too much nonsense to try and wade through to get it working. This is probably why Optane is dead! Just like SLI and CrossFire
It was not a pleasant experience but I wanted to try it out. Some viewers appear to like the Optane. Well now I have a tiny SATA m.2 drive to play with.
i was looking at the price of an 8T ssd and erm...$600, maybe in 20 years it will be better. i had a question on what size of optane to use for a Seagate BarraCuda Pro 12TB(refurb) which is $120 on amazon im seeing a lot of 16G optane drives for $8 but the 32G versions are $50+ so is the 32G largely better than the 16G?
Optane is faster than NVME SSDs for some operations, so a SATA SSD still isn't approaching the performance of Optane. "The problem" is that Intel didn't support more interesting configurations. Things get a lot more interesting with higher Optane capacities. Then you can use PrimoCache (or Linux) to put a crazy fast cache in front of multiple SATA HDDs and/or SSDs.
i love your videos, thanks so much for making them. really really useful.
Thanks. You made my day!
Slight tangent: Those blue dampeners are available online on the usual sites (Amazon, eBay etc. or your local e-waste recycler). You might be aware already but they were used in many non-laptop HP systems for who knows how many years, so they ought to still be plentiful. I bought some for an HP mini-tower I had years ago.
I've been thinking of grabbing a few off of eBay but since I just use the SATA SSDs I mostly need them for the G2s
It was a good tech in the days of trying to make mechanical drives faster.. but these days you can get a brand new 500gb nvme with 5 year warranty for 25 usd.. 39Aud here in australia.
They tried...
Optane is GOLD, but what you show in video only supported up to Z590 M2 16/32/64gb. Buy 900/905/4800/5800 disk and use them as cache on all new platforms with Primocache and you will have same results !.
@@perhansen3959 I'll have to look into primocache
Quite the adventure! 😎
It started out simple and then when I tried to reproduce things and make it easy it went south. I figured though that if it was something available as an option I should report on it.
Slap it in a pcie adapter and use it as a cache drive for something like primocache
i have been using since the beginning, i have 64gb versions, i use with WD Black drive, but i use as secondary storage, i have all my games or files on it, now i use some, with Primo Cache Pro, as the L2 drive. they work great to speed up a 22tb red pro also. they are still useful.
What type of computer are you using it on?
@@handmedowntech pc of course, X299, Z590
Interesting. I received one of these for free and always wondered how it worked.
I do not have a system that would take advantage of it though.
So at this point it will have to be turned into a keychain LOL.
You could use it as a tiny 16GB M.2 drive, fairly useless.
Optane is/was a crutch, not an answer. I've found that it helped with some day-to-day computer operations, but extensive HD writes were not among them. Boot times improved because Optane stored the relevant files in what amounted to a fast but small SSD. Save yourselves the time and trouble our content provider expended getting the Optane system to work - get an SSD. Better yet, get some NVMe drives and build some wind chimes using the platters from your HDDs.
You kinda feel sorry for the engineers that put in all that time for a tech that had such a limited lifetime.
@@handmedowntech they also speed up normal ssd`s to 16000mb/s !. So its kinda sad they stopped making these drives. Currently im on a z690 platform and i have some 900p optane ssd`s 280gb, and with the little optane m2 in front of optane 900p i can get insane speeds like 30000mb/s with primocache. So its not only HDD drives !.
So you're saying the optane helps with SATA SSDs?
@@handmedowntechIt definitely can. Intel's drivers only support Optane-SATA pairs, but with PrimoCache you could also use it to accelerate USB SSDs and HDDs. That can be a big advantage, especially on mini systems without a ton of slots/ports.
You're just asking/answering a different question. Optane is still an answer - and probably the best answer - for a lot of builds.
Servers running lots of docker containers and/or NAS builds will benefit from Optane caching far beyond what can be accomplished once your NVME slots are full.
And NVME is still slower than Optane on random read-write.
The only way to get all the advantages is with both NVME and Optane.
Just put i some teamextreme, 4000 ddr4 64gin system, (max 3466)
Lots of ram for ebooster (n ram drive) prefetch, and primocache, still leaving 16g free
That's the second mention of primocache. I'll have to look into it. Can't be out of the loop 😉
I have a Dell Inspiron 3891 with Intel Quad and video. I got it without a HDD or SSD, etc. I installed a 480gb SSD via a USB adapter and have a 500gb NVMe installed (It's a new project).
Am I assuming correctly that I do not need Intel Optane.
Correct, Optane was a way to help get performance from mechanical drives when SSDs were much more expensive.
@@handmedowntech Thank you for the fast response.
Primo cache...faster, on a z68 2700k, and 6700k z270
Wow, just get an SSD...end of problem. Too much nonsense to try and wade through to get it working. This is probably why Optane is dead! Just like SLI and CrossFire
It was not a pleasant experience but I wanted to try it out. Some viewers appear to like the Optane. Well now I have a tiny SATA m.2 drive to play with.
SLI and Crossfire died because deferred rendering became the norm in game development, which is inherently incompatible with the tech.
i was looking at the price of an 8T ssd and erm...$600, maybe in 20 years it will be better.
i had a question on what size of optane to use for a
Seagate BarraCuda Pro 12TB(refurb) which is $120 on amazon
im seeing a lot of 16G optane drives for $8 but the 32G versions are $50+ so is the 32G largely better than the 16G?
Optane is faster than NVME SSDs for some operations, so a SATA SSD still isn't approaching the performance of Optane.
"The problem" is that Intel didn't support more interesting configurations. Things get a lot more interesting with higher Optane capacities. Then you can use PrimoCache (or Linux) to put a crazy fast cache in front of multiple SATA HDDs and/or SSDs.