Lindy Fralin Pickups - Vintage Output Tele Replacements vs. Overwound
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- In this video, famed guitar pickup winder Lindy Fralin personally demonstrates a set of his stock output Tele style replacement pickups against a set of his 5%/2% overwinds. This comparison is not scientific but it was recorded in a controlled environment with virtually no enhancement. The signal path for this demo was as follows:
Guitar, VVT Lindy Fralin model amp with 1/15", SM57 mic'ed about 18" off the grill cloth, RNC Compressor, Mackie XDR preamp, Apogee Duet, Logic Pro on a Macbook Pro. The signal was recorded dry although a very slight amount of compression was added to reduce clipping and a slight plate reverb was added in Logic Pro for spatial enhancement. Otherwise the sound you hear is the pure, unaltered sound of the pickups through the amp with the volume set on about "3". Learn more about these pickups at www.fralinpickups.com
Folks, to clear up some confusion, BOTH sets of pickups in this video are Fralins. When Lindy says "stock set" here, he's referring to his stock replacement set. The purpose of the video is to compare his stock output set against his +5%/2% overwinds. Sorry about the confusion. ~VW
I love hearing someone demo a product that they made / designed themselves. Adds another level of depth to the artistry. Great sounding pups!
This is pure sweetness. I never liked the twangyness of the bridge pickup on a tele, but the clarity on these are just unmatched. It's a very pleasant kind of brightness without sounding shrill.
I like how you flipped the control plate so the volume was closer to your hand.Its a simple thing that makes a massive difference.
Thanks Lindsy I've building a Tele and think I've heard every video in the known universe and yours was clean and impressive, thank you.
Many commenters don’t notice that both sets of pick ups are Fralins, the fist set is standard and the 2nd is overwound 5% on bridge and 2% on neck
right when i heard that first mexican tele, i went to the website to order my fralins. VERY pleased. this audio clip in this video is very true to their tone
Good point, but actually BOTH guitars have Fralin pickups. When Lindy says "stock set" he's referring to his stock output tele set. Lindy uses cheap chinese and mexican fenders as his test mules and many of em sound surprisingly good with the replacement pickups. The ash tele is one of his personal instruments.
They both sound beautiful! ❤
I setup my swamp ash, and put a great Emerson wiring in along with the Fralin’s and very happy . . . But so many other factors kick in, like the Boat-Neck; Great saddles; Good nut; The strings; My fingers
Good job Lindy 🤘🏻
Fralin's are a bit thickerr, no doubt, but the MIM Tele sounded mighty sweet as well... thanks for the comparison.
I believe when he says stock, he means his stock aka normal/vintage output set. Not MIM stock.
lkb3rd Correct.
+billder999 Vintage pickups all day long. The problem with those high output pickups is that the guitar doesn't sound musical anymore. I'm not sure why anyone likes high output pickups, unless you're into death metal, black metal, etc.
In truth, my ear is refined for acoustic guitars, not so much for electric... I am hearing the player, not the pickups. Hate to admit, but I don't know the difference between "vintage" and "high output"... can you provide a good link where I can learn?
Vintage means low output. It will not be as loud with all else being equal compared to a "hot" or high output pickup, and it will interact differently with an amp. In this video, you can hear the second pickup set overdriving the amp a tiny bit more, and it sounds "fatter" as Lindy says. Those are the hotter pickups.
I have to say that both instruments sound great, which baffled me until I read in the comments that both guitars had Fralin pickups. Your pickups are amazing.
There is no MIM Stock PU´s..(dhaaaaaa!!!) The comparation is betwin Fralin STOCK and Fralin Overwound!!!
Thanks from Europe, Fralin! I love your PU´S!!
Sounds like the definition of a tele. I have a 65' Fender and hope I can approximate this with my tele copy that's on the way. I can't afford the big guns but this one presumably comes close. The pickups are mid output 6K.
I agree. I have a Mexican 50's Esquire with a Seymour Duncan pickup swapped in and it sounds great. It plays and feels great too. I am thinking of going with a Fralin however...
thanks man. glad to know some people are paying attention! ; )
i LOVE LOVE LOVE the sound of that swamp ash tele!
the red tele has the stock set. the blackguard has the 5over/2over set. Thanks for watching!
He's got the same prob I have of hitting adjacent strings while playing a riff. Makes me feel better!
I just bought a Fralin Brad Paisley for a Koa FrankenTele I'll be putting together as a test axe for my guitar repair shop. It should be done around Xmas 2011. It's going to have a Lollar 52T in the neck pos. I'm hoping these pups will play nice together. We'e working out some interesting wiring for it, something unusual maybe with a super 5-way Strat switch and two push-pulls. I'll make a video of it going together and after it's done.
Love my L. Fralin Blues Special - it bites really hard. it is used on all the videos I have posted on my channel - I never even use the other two.
I watched this video a few days ago and haven't used a pick since
Those are Fralin stock tele replacement pickups. Thanks for asking!
I think I'm going to have to give up a body part to get one of these amps - man, they sound awesome!! Pickups are certainly nothing to sneeze at either, stock sound great!
Gre8!! I've just placed my order to upgrade my MIM Tele. Thank you!!
Body material does make a difference. The neck and the body affect the vibration of the strings by accentuating or attenuating specific frequencies. The levels of accentuating or attenuation, as well as the frequencies affected, depends on the neck and body materials. The pickup "picks up" the vibration of the string, which is directly affected by the neck and body. It's basic physics.
Even if it was true the difference is negligible. Don't. Talk about things you don't understand.
I recently bought a Fender Baja Tele, Mexican made, and it sounds great right out of the box.
Well I guess I have to switch to the MIM Tele because Lindy made it sound absolutely great here :). The ash Tele with the overwinds were a bit too bright for my taste on this video. I have the Blues versions in one of my Tele's and love them. Doing a new build and looking for the next pickup set. Soo many Tele's
as many have stated here, there is a more pronounce clarity of the notes on the overwound pickups. albeit that the less than 5 percent overwound, defines more clarity to the tone. without disrupting its original presence.
These exact Fralins OR Seymour Duncan quarter pound pickups? Vote now!!
i prefer the vintage set.to my ears they seem to have more clarity. i have the texas blues set in my strat and i wish i had gone for the real 54's for the same reason, but i still like them.
Fender's pick ups have come a long way since I bought my American Standard Stratocaster in 194. However, the Lindy Fralin pickups a in that guitar are still the best sounding pickups I've experienced in any guitar.
I'm looking for an American Special Telecaster. I will put Lindy Fralin's 5%/2% over wounds in that. I will have the Texas Special to put into my Mexican Telecaster. The Mexican Pickups may go into a Chinese Telecaster.
BTW; That amplifier sound awesome. That needs to be taken into account.
I love seeing Lindy Fralin himself and the fact that he's playing basically the same Mexican tele I've got. But I have to say, there's a big tonal difference between ash and alder, as well as brass and steel saddles.
Great playing with just your thumb.
Clean man I like those,
About 2 years ago I built a Tele starting with a Fender 50's RI body and neck. Used Callaham vintage hardware and wiring.The body is ash and Lindy suggested the 5%/2% overwinds as played here. Absolutely love the way my "Lindycaster" turned out and get frequent compliments. FYI, I play DR Pure Blues on this setup.
@cgravier
Nope. It's a very well done copy. One of Lindy's favorites.
sounds wicked.
@gator19482005 I'd start off with putting that Texas Special in the middle position, and if you don't like that, then look to change it out. The American Standard Nashville Tele has a Texas special in the middle, although it is specifically a middle pickup. I imagine that the bridge is a little hotter, but you've already got it, so why not give it a try? You could try lowering it away from the strings to cool it off some too.
I noticed a difference in saddles, the second Tele using the old 3 brass saddles. That may alter the tone.
It doesnt
@VirtualWoodshed I was about to say that "Mexican" tele sounds pretty damn good!
hello, is it possible to demonstrate your pickups with the squier 50's tele classic vibe? i'd love to hear what those lipsticks could do for jazz. they sound utterly clear. beautiful tone right there. and thanks for the demo! (:
@orangewizard
That might be a bit of a reach, but you make a good point. I would say throw in a set of good pickups AND new electronics AND a pro setup and then you'd really be getting somewhere. ; ) check out this interview with Lindy for more on that: virtualwoodshed[dot]com/a-glimpse-into-the-world-of-lindy-fralin/
Nice T-shirt man!
Hell yeah man! A few years ago my guitar teacher and I A/B'd our Telecasters. Mine was Mexican, and his was an American-standard. There was little-to-no difference in the sound, and both had their original stock pickups. Needless to say, he was kinda Pissed. Anyone who talks shit about a MIM Telecaster obviously hasn't spend enough time with one. Can't even imagine the sonic potential, if you upgraded the pickups/electronics.
The Mexican Tele was incredibly righteous. That's all I have to say.
I like the first ones better
+DiegoVT91 Vintage pickups all day long. The problem with those high output pickups is that the guitar doesn't sound musical anymore. I'm not sure why anyone likes high output pickups, unless you're into death metal, black metal, etc.
I find that the stock neck was the "fuller warmer' of the two.
I would really like to hear the overwound neck pickup with no cover if possible. I prefer the cover off tele neck pickups.
***** The sound wouldn't be any different.
The body wood was different, but also the country of origin. The Mexican Tele actually sounded better than the "improved" American counterpart. The better comparison would be to take the same guitar and demonstrate the stock pickups, and then install the aftermarket ones. Of course, most modern Fenders come with adequate pickups, so changing them would not necessarily to improve them but to better achieve what the player has in mind.
ok, i've got to ask. it is probably a personal preference for putting the volume / tone knobs in front rather than the switch,.... right? most tele's are reversed.. just wondering . Thanks by the way i had my tele bridge changed out to a Fralin.. like it a lot.
Woul;d the stock pickups in the tele not be ceramic and the ones you stuck in the ash tele be alnico ?, as alnico always sound thicker to ceramic magnets, at least that is my take on them ?, I had a MIM tele a year ago, only reason I sold it was the maple neck, I nevere seem to get on with maple fret boards, I am a rosewood kind of guy, loved how bright the MIM tele was though,
Isn’t the blues special bridge pickup just a 5% overwound stock tele? So isn’t the second one a blues special?
Hello,
I `ve got exactly same model You`ve played first (2005` MIM Std Telecaster in burgundy wine). I`m playing it on a Fender (red knob) The Twin. I`m looking for creamy bluesy tone of a bridge pickup.
Please, what bridge pup would You recommend me? Would LF Blues special do the thing?
Cheers from Serbia
This is how pickups should be demod.....guitar...lead...amp...not with loads of effects between
even if any effects are off they still affect tone giving a false representation.
my experience with teles is that they twang better with pickups set low..gets rid of any unwanted attack artifacts....dont forget...way back when...small amps ...low output pickups...probably set low to even out dynamics....(the same sound lots of people chase with big amps...high output pickups set too high up...then tame it all or try to..with graphic eq and compressor)
No real substitute for one man and his amp
Skol
Wulf
How do you think a telecaster would sound with a combination of the two? Like 2% neck and stock bridge or vice versa?
Was going to ak you a simple quistion, do you beleave that a maple fret board tele is brighter sounding than a rosewood telecaster ?, I know acousticly it will sound a fraction different, but how at higher volumes jacked in could it b picked up by the magnetic field ? it's a big long debate I know, but scinece suggests their would be no tonal effects through an amp, I have a rosewood strat that is brighter than any maple I have played, I personally dont think it changes the tone, how about you ?
Some online sellers advertise a Lindy Fralin "Broadcaster set". I cannot find any info on Lindy's website on that one, so I'm thinking some sellers have just given that name to the overwound set. Can anyone confirm that? Thanks!
Dominik Wallerius I can’t confirm that but you should call Lindy and ask about it. 804-358-2699.
I use my thumb just like that and I dont see many that do it that way
Definitely the blond one. 🔥
I liked the first one with the stocks more. Sounds kinda punchy.
Hi lindy what would extending the pole pieces of a pickup to beyond the baseplate do to the tone of a pickup.Added tone and output?
Pinch loaf Hi there pinch, this is not Lindy’s channel and he doesn’t read these comments. Please check out the Fralin pickups YT channel. Lindy personally responds to comments there. Cheers!
Is the first guitar a midnight wine mexican tele?
Yeah it is! :)
How come you never play the bridge 2% by itself??
The MIM Tele has a sweeter sound and more bite to it.
Reversed control layout in that tele; is that custom?
Robert Whitcomb yes. Lindy customizes most of his Teles this way.
the first one sounds LOTS better IMO.
My friend, no offense, but there is a difference between "fuller" and "deader" sounding pickups. The ash body on the second tele makes the notes pop with more presence or brightness to them, and Lindy's neck pickup is voiced to pick up more harmonic qualities (i.e.- higher frequencies) that are absolutely LOST in the Mexi-pickups. So, what you hear is a classic Tele "twang" that most modern guitars do not capture. If you play more vintage teles, you'll get a feel for what I mean.
preferred vintage output, seemed bitier and niceier :b
+PipeSmokingBearGuzzlingBassist Vintage pickups all day long. The problem with those high output pickups is that the guitar doesn't sound musical anymore. I'm not sure why anyone likes high output pickups, unless you're into death metal, black metal, etc.
Reggae Fan No offense man, but your statement has little to no logic. The video specifically said that the Frailin pickups are 5% and 2% overwound ( not very overwound). I bet those pickups have only half the output of a PAF style humbucker! A bit of extra output never killed anybody.
P.S. Metal players normally use HIGH output HUMBUCKERS!!
the problem is you can find many pickup demos that have been recorded on some bullshit laptop mic in horrible conditions or by someone who can't set a decent EQ on an amp and you end up with bullshit demos of these pickups that really don't present their true sound.. it's better to see you guys at the shop making sound clips like this..
Without a prick make me feel SO BAD indeed
I think a Fender is a Fender...no matter where it's made... Seriously,...could you tell the difference on a recording?...if you didn't know?...
I like the stock mexican better . it sounds more fender
steven falk BOTH sets are Fralins. When Lindy says “stock” set he’s referring to the output. This vid compares his stock output pickups with the overwounds.
@JackDawsonRMS haha never mind
Lindy, I love your pickups, but you pickin' at the neck doesn't tell me a whole lot about how that pickup''s gonna sound....
I gotta say, I like the stock better, fuller sounding & warmer
Sorry Lindy, I preferred the MIM to be honest.
Andy D those were his pickups as well. Nothin to be sorry about
@JackDawsonRMS you dont have to shoud..
yes you can play like this but its not realy pratical
...what?
i see p90s :D lots of them in the back
101th comment nice video
Difference: Played his set with stronger Dynamics, hence louder thicker souncd. Excellent, but sooooo overpriced. My Fender Tex mex are 49$ on sale, Duncan Hots $89, Wilkinson 60's 39 bucks. All sound just as good as Fralin, Lollars, etc. Not taking Anything away from these pickups.....just overpriced, but if you like them, and have the cash, go crazy!
William Seling BOTH sets in this vid are Fralins. When he says “stock” he’s referring to the output. Fralins are an incredible bargain for what you get IMHO. Got them in almost all of my guitars and the difference in clarity and articulation is noticeable. $.02. 🍻
These PUs are great but WAYYYYY too expensive. I personally do not believe that pickups should cost this much. There are much less expensive pickups that are quality in construction and sound. If you make your living as a professional guitarist, then pay what you need to in order to make your wage. But for 99% of the guitarist community; I don't think it's worth the investment. But that's just my opinion.
You're entitled to your opinion. However, I have to respectfully disagree. At $200 for a set of stock replacement Tele pickups, I think Fralins are a bargain. You can't put a price tag on inspiration and that's what these pickups delivered for me. The first time I installed a set of Fralins in my Telecaster it was as if someone had removed a felt curtain from in front of my amp and I could actually hear the true tone and resonance of my guitar for the first time. It was a revelation to say the least. I was instantly inspired and they truly helped me become a better player. After that I installed Fralins in almost all of my guitars as my budget would allow.
As to your comment of how much pickups "should" cost, that's pretty subjective. Lindy is a friend of mine and I promise you he doesn't drive a Ferrari or live an exotic lifestyle. Boutique builders like Fralin don't have the advantage of economy of scale like Fender, Gibson, etc. But then again, his products are far superior in my humble opinion. Lindy charges what he needs to charge in order to make a fair profit while still staying competitive in the marketplace. He treats his employees very well and some have been there many, many years. Compared to some other boutique builders, his pickups are far from the most expensive. I hope you get the chance to play a set for yourself one day and perhaps you'll understand what I'm talking about. Cheers, VW
@@VirtualWoodshedwell said.
What a horrible technique playing with you thumbs!!
If my teacher saw you playing... aah!
But i like your revieuw by the way. You helped my decide!
and I always thought lindy was a girl. hmm.
I use my thumb just like that and I dont see many that do it that way