Stephen A. can’t believe Max Kellerman is defending Myles Garrett | First Take

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  • Stephen A. Smith and Louis Riddick debate Max Kellerman about whether Cleveland Browns DE Myles Garrett deserves a severe suspension for hitting Pittsburgh Steelers QB Mason Rudolph in the head with his own helmet.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 2,6 тис.

  • @bradpitt1263
    @bradpitt1263 4 роки тому +1453

    That's what you call a moderator do you see how she calmly control the conversation Molly would scream yo yo yo guys guys guys

    • @LiteDnBFnatic
      @LiteDnBFnatic 4 роки тому +54

      She is the bestest

    • @kucciku3213
      @kucciku3213 4 роки тому +36

      I dont like how shes controlling it for her narrative or what she thinks right

    • @wack...
      @wack... 4 роки тому +35

      she still interrupts and interjects way too much

    • @issuancecars973
      @issuancecars973 4 роки тому +15

      Ross is starting to interrupt alot more too bad

    • @michaelwatkins9479
      @michaelwatkins9479 4 роки тому +12

      They both suck to be honest.

  • @showout2982
    @showout2982 4 роки тому +2089

    If Myles hit Brady the NFL would’ve replaced the Browns organization with Ohio state

    • @Dqwerty71465
      @Dqwerty71465 4 роки тому +23

      Show Out tOSU might win a SuperBowl

    • @countrykid_204
      @countrykid_204 4 роки тому +9

      No tf they would not people like u are dumb asf

    • @nicholsdeshan
      @nicholsdeshan 4 роки тому +32

      But what if JJ Watt did this to Lamar Jackson would we even be having this conversation I don't think so people would be jumping for joy and saying that's how football is supposed to played this screams racism to me

    • @Lucy-tf1cw
      @Lucy-tf1cw 4 роки тому +2

      Bro you was waiting for this day looks like you got jokes stored up for every one of these vids for browns/myles Garrett

    • @Terror832
      @Terror832 4 роки тому +43

      *Myles hits Brady*
      Sentenced to 25 to life

  • @MannyManhattanMusic
    @MannyManhattanMusic 4 роки тому +1117

    Stephen A looks like he’s about to swing a helmet at Max head

  • @TrapNerdRob
    @TrapNerdRob 4 роки тому +445

    Max theme song for this topic: Its me against the world by tupac

    • @samueldiaz645
      @samueldiaz645 4 роки тому +24

      Agree with him too... you can’t go rob a dude and then get mad cause he robs you instead

    • @antoriojohnson4189
      @antoriojohnson4189 4 роки тому +10

      Robert Wilson going by SAS logic if I see Deontay Wilder, or Tyson Fury I should slap them as they shouldn’t defend themselves because their bigger and stronger.
      Sure he shouldn’t have hit the dude with a helmet. He also shouldn’t have gotten kicked at or had anyone try to take of his helmet.

    • @emceeace6851
      @emceeace6851 4 роки тому +3

      Oooh ooOohhh it’s just me against the world baby, woooaahhhuuuuahhwooahhhh 🎶🎶🎶

    • @ATX-js1to
      @ATX-js1to 4 роки тому +1

      Robert Wilson 💀

    • @montychambliss6254
      @montychambliss6254 4 роки тому

      @Ernest Frazier I do too

  • @Dave1854
    @Dave1854 4 роки тому +185

    This host is amazing... Molly would have messed that up

    • @nuckymancini7013
      @nuckymancini7013 4 роки тому +20

      Molly wouldve intervened: "BUT ITS TENNIS!?!... I PLAYED TENNIS & I WORE @SKIRT?!?"...

    • @Dave1854
      @Dave1854 4 роки тому

      Nucky Mancini hahahahaha

    • @islandman1370
      @islandman1370 4 роки тому

      Nucky Mancini lol

    • @J_Braz_
      @J_Braz_ 4 роки тому

      Molly would have slapped the sh!t out his mouth.

    • @jrozay3788
      @jrozay3788 4 роки тому

      Who is she?

  • @Spidey7747
    @Spidey7747 4 роки тому +657

    This man Stephen A. out here looking like O.J's lawyer.

    • @johnvargasiv2886
      @johnvargasiv2886 4 роки тому +5

      😂😂👌

    • @jordan12118
      @jordan12118 4 роки тому +6

      Spidey7747 Johnnie Cochran

    • @MrGenexxx
      @MrGenexxx 4 роки тому +5

      @@jackiecook5864 😂😂😂😂

    • @yattaguru
      @yattaguru 4 роки тому +1

      Johnnie Cochrine is turning over in his grave

    • @jakeman202
      @jakeman202 4 роки тому +2

      Chewbacca defense

  • @kenjixiong12
    @kenjixiong12 4 роки тому +275

    max is used to reporting fights so of course he sees this differently 😂😂😂

  • @michaelwatkins9479
    @michaelwatkins9479 4 роки тому +397

    SAS saw the internet calling Skip "Drip Bayless" and decided to pull out the turtle neck on yall.

    • @RobOn85South
      @RobOn85South 4 роки тому +8

      HUGEEEEEEEE L

    • @Kevjohno
      @Kevjohno 4 роки тому +2

      Turtle Neck Soup 🐢🐢

    • @sofiarune3124
      @sofiarune3124 4 роки тому

      Whats the name of the big titties woman?

  • @igbokwenu4934
    @igbokwenu4934 4 роки тому +145

    Why does Stephen A look like he got a Shakespeare neck brace on ?
    🤔🤔

    • @nuckymancini7013
      @nuckymancini7013 4 роки тому +3

      That'd be pretty fucking BOSS if he did!?!...

    • @igbokwenu4934
      @igbokwenu4934 4 роки тому +5

      Nucky Mancini
      Shakespeare: to be or not to be
      Stephen A: You’re right but here’s why you’re wrong.

    • @user-op1tq9ur3t
      @user-op1tq9ur3t 4 роки тому +2

      TURTLE NECKING

    • @louis3141
      @louis3141 4 роки тому +1

      "Have the weed or Lay off the weed, That is the question"

    • @guysumpthin2974
      @guysumpthin2974 4 роки тому +3

      As mentioned in the other comment : steven A is going for the COUNT CHOCULA LOOK and he nailed it

  • @NandanMusic
    @NandanMusic 4 роки тому +156

    Somehow Vontaze Burfict is going to get fined for this

    • @tshearn624
      @tshearn624 4 роки тому +8

      Not before Josh Gordon somehow gets suspended for it.

    • @yaahlabanyamyan144
      @yaahlabanyamyan144 4 роки тому

      Can't forget Odell

    • @blackgt9264
      @blackgt9264 4 роки тому

      Not before Clay Matthews lol

    • @davidyacko699
      @davidyacko699 4 роки тому

      Sorry but....
      Pacman Jones is second in line to get one
      Playing or not lol

  • @tkdanny
    @tkdanny 4 роки тому +523

    I hate how people based their opinions on “what if’s”

    • @rodericksampson4272
      @rodericksampson4272 4 роки тому +8

      Danny Rangel fax 💯💯💯

    • @Valid925
      @Valid925 4 роки тому +64

      Lol oh really? So if you are out in the street and someone aims a gun at your head, pulls the trigger but the bullet just grazes your ear and you survive, are you gonna say the "what if" doesn't matter? Are you really this stupid?

    • @rodericksampson4272
      @rodericksampson4272 4 роки тому +90

      Valid925 bruh that doesn’t correlate😂😂😂

    • @bennyubub1582
      @bennyubub1582 4 роки тому +33

      Valid925 what?

    • @jackiecook5864
      @jackiecook5864 4 роки тому +55

      @@Valid925
      It would appear that someone already did that to you, and blew away the thinking part of your brain!

  • @smoovfrmda8
    @smoovfrmda8 4 роки тому +299

    I wouldn’t mind Max being my lawyer

    • @SimpIguess
      @SimpIguess 4 роки тому +4

      JaKodi Williams bro I was thinking the same exact thing 🤣

    • @3MrNiceGuy15
      @3MrNiceGuy15 4 роки тому +10

      He is terrible at making his point though.

    • @shielagray693
      @shielagray693 4 роки тому +7

      Me to Max is so intelligent and so smart I hate that Steven 8 constantly Cuts him off it's like it's the Stephen a show I don't know what why it is because Steven A he really hates black people and He will throw a black person under the bus with the quickness

    • @greenkidd529
      @greenkidd529 4 роки тому +2

      How would he get you off this case? In a court of law myles garret would still lose. Lol there is no "instigation" that factors in if thay were the case guys who best their GFs in self defense would get off would good lawyers and it never happens lol

    • @LegionOfEclaires
      @LegionOfEclaires 4 роки тому +16

      Max's argument essentially is: My client is guilty. He did commit the crime he is accused of but what about that guy, he started it.

  • @makanathomas2088
    @makanathomas2088 4 роки тому +179

    Moderator: let’s focus on the actions and what actually happened
    Same Moderator: but WHAT IF his head split open

    • @JarellLavender89
      @JarellLavender89 4 роки тому +5

      The action of swinging the helmet..smh c'mon your not listening or cant comprehend

    • @Wavy_Godd96
      @Wavy_Godd96 4 роки тому +4

      Makana Thomas But did that happen? No it didn’t! He should be thankful it didn’t happen! He should be punished for trying a man after he clearly stopped

    • @ur_really_salty
      @ur_really_salty 4 роки тому +3

      Makana Thomas
      she’s about as dumb as molly she just needs to sit there and STFU

    • @JarellLavender89
      @JarellLavender89 4 роки тому +2

      @@ur_really_salty dont call someone dumb and you cant comprehend..she is talking about the swinging of the helmet action..and what could of happened because of that action..if I shoot yall in the head and you dont die..still my action of shooting you in the head could of killed you..i can go to prison for that..with yall logic why does someone go to jail for just attempting?why do you still go to jail for attempted murder? It's the action

    • @robo9876
      @robo9876 4 роки тому +9

      People don't seem to understand self defense

  • @Illmatic75712
    @Illmatic75712 4 роки тому +12

    Max is absolutely right

  • @Themikelawry
    @Themikelawry 4 роки тому +215

    MAX IS THE ONLY ONE IN ESPN THAT HAS NUTS !

    • @timocruz510
      @timocruz510 4 роки тому +14

      lol He picked the Browns to the playoffs and doesn't want Garrett out the rest of the year... it's clear as day

    • @EasyShurts
      @EasyShurts 4 роки тому +10

      not really, they have to debate so thats his side and he rides it

    • @vincentjames7210
      @vincentjames7210 4 роки тому +1

      You mean Will Cain

    • @Themikelawry
      @Themikelawry 4 роки тому

      @@timocruz510 right cause Max is so worried about being wrong ....... Lol that sounds crazy

    • @newbct666
      @newbct666 4 роки тому +1

      Peter Nunez 💀 goteem

  • @DavidBagga
    @DavidBagga 4 роки тому +95

    Max “WHEN IT MATTERS MOST!” Kellerman 😂
    First take LIT AF today man 😂🔥

  • @jjones9210
    @jjones9210 4 роки тому +5

    Max is the ONLY commentator with sense on this matter. Everyone looking at the reaction and not the full situation

  • @pdboomin2
    @pdboomin2 4 роки тому +310

    If u come for the smoke be ready for the smoke smh

    • @billysummers1616
      @billysummers1616 4 роки тому +27

      If you get upset about a late hit, be prepared to get your skull bashed with a helmet?

    • @f1ves961
      @f1ves961 4 роки тому +22

      @@billysummers1616 Some wannabe thug is what the guy who made that idiotic comment is

    • @Shenzy17
      @Shenzy17 4 роки тому +26

      @@billysummers1616 No, but if you try to take my helmet off don't get mad when I don't let you and take yours off through TWO of your linemen and still get a hit in

    • @derekfreeman1505
      @derekfreeman1505 4 роки тому +39

      Max isn’t wrong

    • @CheckCeeOut
      @CheckCeeOut 4 роки тому +3

      The action was wrong, but the intention matters.

  • @GoreTechs
    @GoreTechs 4 роки тому +6

    I agree with max 100%

  • @RFinch44
    @RFinch44 4 роки тому +105

    Why are you talking about "what ifs" talk about what actually happened..

    • @JayTheRealest1
      @JayTheRealest1 4 роки тому +2

      *Facts*

    • @greastestever5549
      @greastestever5549 4 роки тому +13

      Richard Fincher So if someone intends to shoot you in the head, but just grazes your skull, you feel there shouldn’t be a comparable degree of punishment?

    • @Darealclem
      @Darealclem 4 роки тому

      Facts

    • @Darealclem
      @Darealclem 4 роки тому +2

      @@greastestever5549 if that person is coming for me I am going to go at them harder. Keep it in context no what ifs it's a helmet.

    • @SuperGamer87
      @SuperGamer87 4 роки тому

      @@greastestever5549 Well, come back if someone tries to actually kill you.
      Two dudes scrapping at the end of a game isn't the same situation.

  • @wolfwang8464
    @wolfwang8464 4 роки тому +47

    Max: if the glove doesn’t fit, you must acquit

  • @dylanstouffer7670
    @dylanstouffer7670 4 роки тому +50

    I agree with max you can’t start a fight and continue to attack someone and be mad when they fight back.

    • @elijahelmore942
      @elijahelmore942 4 роки тому +2

      Garrett started the fight

    • @kingasif9265
      @kingasif9265 4 роки тому +4

      he shouldn't have tackled him like that in the first place with only 8sec left..

    • @hazegaming100
      @hazegaming100 4 роки тому +4

      KING ASIF same thing my coach said you dont stop playing till its 00:00 on the clock

    • @kingasif9265
      @kingasif9265 4 роки тому +1

      @@hazegaming100 The game was over 7-21 no reason to hit the QB that hard to ground. Well his not going to play any games rest of the season.

    • @marcus_fields
      @marcus_fields 4 роки тому

      @@kingasif9265 u tripping

  • @tburrell23
    @tburrell23 4 роки тому +32

    I agree with Max 100%

  • @R3DRAIN89
    @R3DRAIN89 4 роки тому +42

    Max 💯 about this. I agree with max 100%

    • @Cohdiboi
      @Cohdiboi 4 роки тому +1

      R3DRAIN89 imagine a 270 man drove you to the ground long after you got rid of the ball with 8 seconds left in a 2 TD game and then proceeded to just lay on you and not get off. Would you have just laid there and done nothing? Sorry but you’re wrong. Any self respecting human would have done what Rudolph did.

    • @R3DRAIN89
      @R3DRAIN89 4 роки тому

      @@Cohdiboi Thats why theres refs. Which clearly were poorly executed that entire game. But doesnt get talked about cause that makes league look bad. But is what it is. Dont start nothing. Wont be nothing.

  • @jacksonsantaniello7630
    @jacksonsantaniello7630 4 роки тому +6

    The girl has no idea what a 100 mph fastball can do to someone

    • @randytwilson5473
      @randytwilson5473 4 роки тому

      Ion know y they hire all these women anyway that dont know nothing bout nothing

  • @GurtonBuster07
    @GurtonBuster07 4 роки тому +28

    MAX A REAL ONE !

  • @dominiccampbell181
    @dominiccampbell181 4 роки тому +113

    I love how this is just like a domestic case, when all anyone is looking at is the action, and not what led up to it. Not saying Garrett was any where close to right, but it's obvious Mason started that altercation.

    • @joemcgiven8711
      @joemcgiven8711 4 роки тому +8

      Bs

    • @billsmith7642
      @billsmith7642 4 роки тому +4

      They were both going at it, just a regular heated scuffle, but once we(well average people who have never seen real violence in their lives) saw Rudolph without his helmet, with that crazy look on his face, and his nose so red, it gave an element of shock value, making it seem worse than it really was, just because it was caught on live tv....Miles ultimately took it way too far....he could have, or should have at least been able to manhandle that dude with his bare hands, but he went and played dirty.....That said, im sure it was the result of being caught off guard by Rudolph actually wanting a piece of him, as most QBs would not be nearly that crazy/stupid to think they could take him out, being much smaller and weaker most of the time, so he reacted without thinking by using the helmet....The helmet aside, if they had kept it clean, it wouldve been no different than fights that break out during practice all the time....The media(big surprise) has blown this totally out of proportion.

    • @yessiryousir
      @yessiryousir 4 роки тому

      And?? What's your point?

    • @mosehlewi3081
      @mosehlewi3081 4 роки тому +2

      No its not obvious.

    • @jobdoneright5934
      @jobdoneright5934 4 роки тому +2

      @@billsmith7642 football is real violence? Lol

  • @daronyarber9886
    @daronyarber9886 4 роки тому +56

    There goes that old saying, "Son don't start the fight, finish it"......

    • @jhaz89
      @jhaz89 4 роки тому +1

      Then lose millions of dollars and potentially your nfl career. Is that what those extra dots are?

    • @thecrow4597
      @thecrow4597 4 роки тому +2

      Yes. But the saying isn’t. When two men fight on a sports field you should end it by swinging a blunt weapon at his head

    • @jhaz89
      @jhaz89 4 роки тому +1

      @@thecrow4597 he's just trying to sound cool

  • @_The_Journey
    @_The_Journey 4 роки тому +60

    MAX IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT💯

    • @Reel___
      @Reel___ 4 роки тому +3

      nope sorry bud

    • @bigbigearsss
      @bigbigearsss 4 роки тому +3

      Robert French yep max is speaking facts and why are the Steelers throwing the ball with 8 seconds left on the clock this could have been prevented if the Steelers would have kneeled the ball to end the game

    • @Reel___
      @Reel___ 4 роки тому +5

      @@bigbigearsss so that justifies Myles trying to kill him?

    • @hummdog1212
      @hummdog1212 4 роки тому

      @@Reel___ all for a game no less

    • @bigbigearsss
      @bigbigearsss 4 роки тому +2

      Robert French so mason innocent? He tried to take off Myles helmet off first and he also kick Myles in the nuts and still rushed him when he didn’t have a helmet they both should be suspended not just Myles

  • @Marcel16DM
    @Marcel16DM 4 роки тому +49

    Stephan a and them just talking what ifs, max talking actual facts

    • @thlt524
      @thlt524 4 роки тому +1

      Max talked about the fact but he is talking about the truth. QB already throws the ball to the back. He does not have the ball, Myles comes in and try hard to take him down to the ground to make point?? Max does not want to talk about it.

    • @fear7126
      @fear7126 4 роки тому +1

      @@thlt524 RIGHT

    • @fear7126
      @fear7126 4 роки тому

      @@thlt524 pure truth

  • @enthronn1
    @enthronn1 4 роки тому +43

    Stephen A is completely wrong the QB still needs to held accountable for his actions too

    • @elainehenderson3915
      @elainehenderson3915 4 роки тому +8

      R u high he goes up to Garrett pissed that theres 8 seconds left and hes still pounding him into the ground then that man gunna rip his helmet off and smacks him this 100% on Garrett

    • @timocruz510
      @timocruz510 4 роки тому +2

      If Watt had done that to baker Max would lose his mind saying the hit was unnecessary looool

    • @ryanrich7133
      @ryanrich7133 4 роки тому +2

      Roughing the passer with 8 left. Id be pissed too

    • @tomwitner874
      @tomwitner874 4 роки тому +1

      What actions?

    • @tomwitner874
      @tomwitner874 4 роки тому +2

      @@timocruz510
      Imagine if Watt did it to a black QB. Max would want Watt executed.

  • @dhj_1843
    @dhj_1843 4 роки тому +13

    I agree with Max.

  • @recardog7202
    @recardog7202 4 роки тому +51

    For once I actually AGREE 💯% with Max Kellerman!
    There I said it

    • @sherqyanstromain9580
      @sherqyanstromain9580 4 роки тому +4

      @@burrman8366 u have to be an idiot if u cant understand where his coming from if u fought we grown men on a street and a weapon in ur hand i hope u let them cave ur head in cuz thats what ur human nature

    • @Kozette007
      @Kozette007 4 роки тому

      troll eze That’s unfair. 😂 I agree with Max and I don’t like him. Also I’m a law abiding citizen.

    • @bankcounsel
      @bankcounsel 4 роки тому

      @@Kozette007 It's good to be in the very vocal, provocatively incorrect minority, I guess. Carry on.

  • @coreyporter9751
    @coreyporter9751 4 роки тому +4

    Thank u Max

  • @daswolio3204
    @daswolio3204 4 роки тому +45

    It’s good to know that one person at this table actually has a pair

    • @Dkintaudi
      @Dkintaudi 4 роки тому +2

      That's how Kellerman's brother felt about the Hammer....defended him to no end. How'd that work out for him?

    • @CheckCeeOut
      @CheckCeeOut 4 роки тому

      Delondi Ngoma Kintaudi that’s fucked up

  • @jgreed5
    @jgreed5 4 роки тому +35

    I commend max for stating his opinion. You believe something say it.

  • @JamesTechJackin
    @JamesTechJackin 4 роки тому +12

    I'm with Max. If I START a fight and I try to grab a brick and I'm unsuccessful grabbing said brick and the person that I am fighting is able to grab a brick and clocks me with it as I'm charging towards him then that's on me. I should've been able to grab the brick in the first place and if I wasn't successful then I most certainly shouldn't have charged towards the other person who had the brick. This isn't hard, it's fighting 101. Mason should get 2-3 games for starting the fight, Garrett should 6-10 games for the helmet hit and let's move on.

    • @abrahamwatson8040
      @abrahamwatson8040 4 роки тому

      GOOFY

    • @thefuzzypickle8277
      @thefuzzypickle8277 4 роки тому

      If you can't grab the brick legally you are 'unarmed' and its straight assault if you get beat down

    • @JamesTechJackin
      @JamesTechJackin 4 роки тому +1

      @@thefuzzypickle8277 not if you run up on someone with the intent to continue the fight. Mason wanted smoke. He kept coming. He could've ran away, but he didn't. Bottom line is that he started the fight and they both should be suspended. There is no place for groin kicks with your cleats up and there is no place for swinging a helmet. Garrett should get 10-16 games and Mason should get 2-3. Let's move on.

  • @treysince21
    @treysince21 4 роки тому +51

    When people get in their feelings they lose the ability to think. I side with Max on this one. Suspend both players w Garrett getting the bigger punishment

    • @supastar25
      @supastar25 4 роки тому +2

      Exactly...it's so clear what needed to happen to BOTH players...if all emotion is removed from it you'll see both players were wrong and should have both been suspended. How Rudolph weaseled out of this one is quite something.

    • @fear7126
      @fear7126 4 роки тому +1

      @@supastar25 so Mason gets hit late (which most quatherbacks and ol get mad when they get hit late) and being down 2 touchdowns with only 7 seconds. I see Mason actions as a normal act of a quatherbacks that gets hit after throwing the ball. And legit Garrett could of killed a man and ya sure let's shorten his suspension and let him come back sooner. Bc I bet if u look up videos there will be a ton of quatherbacks trying to protect themselves after getting hit.

    • @chrissimon3790
      @chrissimon3790 4 роки тому

      Exactly, that’s what common sense people are saying

    • @Cohdiboi
      @Cohdiboi 4 роки тому

      Elliott W imagine a 270 man drove you to the ground long after you got rid of the ball with 8 seconds left in a 2 TD game and then proceeded to just lay on you and not get off. Would you have just laid there and done nothing? Rudolph deserves nothing. Any self respecting human would have done exactly what he did.

  • @everdash
    @everdash 4 роки тому +60

    Max is using logic.
    That’s why he’s not fitting in here.

    • @anthonybrooks8599
      @anthonybrooks8599 4 роки тому +2

      Logic says that if you have a helmet in your hand and violently swing it at a guy's head, who is not wearing his helmet, then you are trying to seriously hurt him. I guess you come from the same school of idiocy as Max

    • @tylergathers7174
      @tylergathers7174 4 роки тому

      Anthony Brooks Logic says if you’re in a fight you should be ready for what happens, and if a bigger guy has a weapon and he’s being restrained by teammates of yours already then you don’t go and follow him.

  • @MiamiHeat305
    @MiamiHeat305 4 роки тому +4

    Max was right

  • @theimmaculated6480
    @theimmaculated6480 4 роки тому +51

    Rudolph wanted all the smoke, he got all of it. *shrugs*

    • @tomwitner874
      @tomwitner874 4 роки тому +4

      People with this mindset are genuine threats to society.

    • @MikeBNumba6
      @MikeBNumba6 4 роки тому +9

      then cries victim. Typical what guys like him do

    • @user-pn9un3dc8y
      @user-pn9un3dc8y 4 роки тому +6

      Tom Witner it’s called defending yourself you weak fool

    • @captainkirk197
      @captainkirk197 4 роки тому +2

      So that’s wasn’t a roughing a passer to begin with ?

    • @dennis9351
      @dennis9351 4 роки тому +4

      @@captainkirk197 it wasn't lol, watch the game dumbfq

  • @alealejandro9696
    @alealejandro9696 4 роки тому +129

    How is swinging a hockey stick at a guys head an "in-game action"?

    • @alealejandro9696
      @alealejandro9696 4 роки тому +26

      @abc def You seem to have missed the part where I said "at a guys head"

    • @alealejandro9696
      @alealejandro9696 4 роки тому +10

      ​@abc def I or Max didn't say just swinging a stick. He said swinging a stick at a guys head which only happens when a fight breaks out in hockey. Therefore, I don't see it as an in-game action and do not agree with the distinction you're making.

    • @alealejandro9696
      @alealejandro9696 4 роки тому +8

      @abc def LOL chillax I get it. But like I said I'm distinguishing "swinging a stick" and "swinging a stick at someones head". In baseball a pitch might go high and in by a guys head which is understandable. At no point in hockey should your stick be swinging by a guys head unless a brawl breaks out so I don't see it as an in game action.

    • @alealejandro9696
      @alealejandro9696 4 роки тому +4

      @abc def Again I've agreed with you from the start. You do swing a stick in hockey LOL. Just nowhere even close to someones head and theres no reason too unless youre fighting which clearly isnt part of the game

    • @symbolic503
      @symbolic503 4 роки тому +2

      @abc def so youd rather get hit in the head with a baseball goin 90, than have someone swinging a football helmet at you, while youve got 3 other 300 pound teammates right next to you ready to jump in and defend you? ...ok then.

  • @vincentpurperhart5623
    @vincentpurperhart5623 4 роки тому +7

    2 black men and max is the real brother 😉🙏🏿

  • @Gatorfan_Cavon
    @Gatorfan_Cavon 4 роки тому +16

    I never thought I ever say this but I'm on team Max on this topic. Everyone is acting like Garrett killed Mason but he didn't. He should get a suspension and a heavy fine but that's it

  • @gorillasinthecoupe8124
    @gorillasinthecoupe8124 4 роки тому +49

    Mediator: I think were moving away from the action by focusing on etc...
    The same mediator: but what if there was a different result?
    ........okay

    • @phyliso
      @phyliso 4 роки тому +1

      😂😂

  • @donaldwayne
    @donaldwayne 4 роки тому +22

    Ryan Clark and Max have been the most logical about this topic so far today

  • @randytwilson5473
    @randytwilson5473 4 роки тому +10

    Max is absolutely right, can b running up to someone, u never know wht u gone get,

  • @otisyoungblood
    @otisyoungblood 4 роки тому +33

    Totally get what max saying dont hit me and when i hit u back then cry foul

    • @j2323j
      @j2323j 4 роки тому

      💯

    • @jonolly8629
      @jonolly8629 4 роки тому

      True..if he would've connected and killed the guy it's all good coz hes defending himself
      /s

    • @JayTheRealest1
      @JayTheRealest1 4 роки тому +1

      *Agreed but you know how society works. They never care about the aggression/antagonizer, they only care about who gets fucked up during the retaliation.*

  • @atomicpiano
    @atomicpiano 4 роки тому +29

    I love Max because more often than not he goes against what everybody else says.

    • @BrockLanders
      @BrockLanders 4 роки тому +5

      An usually everyone else is right, and he’s wrong

    • @RustyWells2
      @RustyWells2 4 роки тому

      And that's why you like him?

    • @ericday4505
      @ericday4505 4 роки тому +3

      Max does seem to do that, but he is correct this time. Clearly.

    • @JustAnEverydayMF
      @JustAnEverydayMF 4 роки тому

      Most of the time it's just for the show goofy

  • @TayKingOver247
    @TayKingOver247 4 роки тому +22

    I respect Max period. He definitely not thinking with his emotions. He thinking logically because he explains exactly what happens not “what ifs” but that’s why both teams got fined . SAS just want to yell and take up for his Steelers . Man sit down

  • @ericday4505
    @ericday4505 4 роки тому +25

    Max is kinda making sense here, I agree.

  • @shastamarckerman
    @shastamarckerman 4 роки тому +11

    Thank you Max for defending people who deserve to be defended

  • @jaydub5449
    @jaydub5449 4 роки тому +5

    Max is a boxing commentator, it's common sense. Don't attack a man if you don't want be f*cked up.. period

  • @juniorm853
    @juniorm853 4 роки тому +33

    Usually Max be having dumb arguments but i can’t disagree with him on this one haha

    • @joshuanguyen.
      @joshuanguyen. 4 роки тому +2

      Junior M completely the opposite. mason rudolph is dumb for charging him. myles garrett is wrong for doing that

    • @gphiltv9444
      @gphiltv9444 4 роки тому +2

      @@joshuanguyen. both at fault but it got to the helmet part because Randolph pursued garrett after he was restrained by othet players . in a fight u being and the person who u was fighting tried to run up on u in that moment let me see ur reaction. Garrett did go to Randolph and try to swing the helmet on him. Randolph ran to him. It would of been done if he didn't

  • @GoldRanger1
    @GoldRanger1 4 роки тому +23

    The fact that they’re trying to defend and stand up for Rudolph is the issue

    • @andreray9951
      @andreray9951 4 роки тому

      The fact they trying to defend it with " what if" is the problem. How bout talk about what THE VIDEO shows what actually happened. Everyone but Max exaggerating what Garrett actually did. Right down to the initial tackle. SAS the sell out ring leader

    • @GoldRanger1
      @GoldRanger1 4 роки тому

      andre ray big sell out

  • @icecoldfunktrain
    @icecoldfunktrain 4 роки тому +8

    Thank you MAX!! You are right!!

  • @a_willy_will4554
    @a_willy_will4554 4 роки тому +53

    Ros Gold fine self back love her

    • @gphiltv9444
      @gphiltv9444 4 роки тому +1

      Fax bro

    • @christianzuniga002
      @christianzuniga002 4 роки тому +4

      She's mine. You can have molly.

    • @billsmith7642
      @billsmith7642 4 роки тому +1

      @@christianzuniga002 Id settle for a golden shower from either one of them.....nice way to relax and keep warm during the cold of winter

    • @cesareantonio8833
      @cesareantonio8833 4 роки тому +2

      @@billsmith7642 😂😂

    • @javieraguila7356
      @javieraguila7356 4 роки тому

      bill smith that’s very r kelly of u

  • @PokeJakee
    @PokeJakee 4 роки тому +10

    Hold it down for the few the agree with you Max Kellerman. I'm with you brother.

  • @flyingspacerock8968
    @flyingspacerock8968 4 роки тому +51

    Max got Fighting Facts

    • @Reel___
      @Reel___ 4 роки тому

      nope he doesn't

    • @Wavy_Godd96
      @Wavy_Godd96 4 роки тому +4

      Robert French yes he does! You haven’t fought anyone have you?

  • @jlarnaut
    @jlarnaut 4 роки тому +3

    I agree with Max here

  • @josefhviding3741
    @josefhviding3741 4 роки тому +61

    No one:
    Max Kellerman: It's human nature to look at the consequence

  • @Skullyman89
    @Skullyman89 4 роки тому +59

    Max should be a Dahm agent or lawyer 🤣. I agree with Max though.

    • @poolside123canadian7
      @poolside123canadian7 4 роки тому +1

      He’s the whistleblower ;)

    • @BrockLanders
      @BrockLanders 4 роки тому +1

      That’s because Max is using hood logic - the black man is always innocent even when he assaults someone

    • @palmanzar13
      @palmanzar13 4 роки тому

      @@BrockLanders how is it assault when the guy is charging at you. It's a fight.

  • @Baldinosalvador
    @Baldinosalvador 4 роки тому +44

    Mason had no business in that fight. Leave that to your linemen

    • @petebutkus3
      @petebutkus3 4 роки тому +3

      You the type of guy that gets pick on by a bigger guy???

    • @petebutkus3
      @petebutkus3 4 роки тому +5

      Never let another man take care of your biz.... Don't be a Coward

    • @Infinityflow0
      @Infinityflow0 4 роки тому +1

      he had every business. Miles Garrett attacked him first by pushing Him into the ground illegally.

    • @fabioj-
      @fabioj- 4 роки тому +2

      Peter Nunez Rudolph did nothing regardless. He’s not tough, he didn’t take care of business. He threw 4 picks that game, he’s been terrible all year. Rudolph acts like a tough guy when he isn’t.

    • @elijahelmore942
      @elijahelmore942 4 роки тому

      The dude was slammed to the ground well after his involvement in the play was over. I'd question if he DIDNT get in Garrett's face over that. He's a grown man, he can defend himself. Which he did. Then Garrett turned into a violent maniac over something he truly initiated

  • @5000jetadam
    @5000jetadam 4 роки тому +90

    Gonna be honest, didn't even watch this game

    • @nahor88
      @nahor88 4 роки тому +4

      You didn't miss much... I half wish as a Steelers fan I didn't watch it. TNF games are already whack cuz you're asking men who just took a beating 3 days ago to lace up again, on top of that, an already lethargic Steelers offense loses it's starting RB and two starting WRs, with a rookie QB trying to make plays.

    • @joejones8454
      @joejones8454 4 роки тому

      nahor88 bro I didn’t watch it cause i was tired af but i had a dream we lost and come to find out we did😑

    • @jonhohensee3258
      @jonhohensee3258 4 роки тому +1

      Packers Nation - So what?

    • @reaper7actual135
      @reaper7actual135 4 роки тому

      😂😂😂😂😂 I had no fantasy players in this game and it’s the Steelers and browns 😂😂😂😂

    • @evbone5558
      @evbone5558 4 роки тому

      😂😂

  • @misters4022
    @misters4022 4 роки тому +14

    So what wouldve happened if rudolph sucessfully took of garretts helmet and rudolph kept his on?

    • @desmundlighten3603
      @desmundlighten3603 4 роки тому +1

      I mean since these fools are bringing in hypotheticals that's a valid question

  • @mightymikeY2K
    @mightymikeY2K 4 роки тому +6

    Max is right on this one.

  • @remo3400
    @remo3400 4 роки тому +7

    Max is right!!

  • @thatncboi201
    @thatncboi201 4 роки тому +7

    Rolling with Max on this one, dude kicked him between the legs, tried to rip his helmet off and then chased him down. Anything he got he brought upon himself. But Myles was wrong for swinging the helmet... but dude deserved it

  • @jukemjamie5878
    @jukemjamie5878 4 роки тому +21

    SAS has taken over the show. He's changing alot.

    • @sirdavidr6064
      @sirdavidr6064 4 роки тому +14

      Jacob Davis he isn’t making sense here. Rudolph instigated both events.

    • @tilleryjohnson8045
      @tilleryjohnson8045 4 роки тому +5

      When Max broke out the rule book on this Stephen A cut him off. If Mason would never tried ripping off that helmet we wouldn't be having this discussion.

    • @thefuzzypickle8277
      @thefuzzypickle8277 4 роки тому +1

      @@sirdavidr6064 and? The dude had a d lineman on top of him. And the matter of fact isn't the helmet being taken off from either player. Its the fact that it was used as a WEAPON and thats what the problem is

    • @razorallen
      @razorallen 4 роки тому

      @@thefuzzypickle8277 if you watch the play again dumbass rudolph was the one who landed on top of myles garrett, not the other way around

  • @Masterpsflood
    @Masterpsflood 4 роки тому +47

    This was a 2 sided fight that looked like a beating because Rudolph was so outmatched

    • @jonhohensee3258
      @jonhohensee3258 4 роки тому +4

      You're ignoring the part where a helmet was swung by a big strong professional athlete at another man's naked head - and made full contact.

    • @GoBirdsFdallas
      @GoBirdsFdallas 4 роки тому +1

      3 on 1 at start of fight...

    • @chuckchuckerson5364
      @chuckchuckerson5364 4 роки тому +8

      @Breon Mitchell I would argue that Garrett started it. He takes a cheap late hit on a QB who had already thrown the ball, and then proceeds to stay on top of him rubbing his head into the ground for the entire duration of the play. Rudolph then trying to get up begins trying to take Garrett's helmet off out of frustration, and the whole thing goes crazy from there. Rudolph is an idiot for pursuing a monster of a man wielding a weapon without a helmet on, but he didn't start the fight.

    • @chuckchuckerson5364
      @chuckchuckerson5364 4 роки тому +1

      @abc def Yeah, I agree. I was responding to the other guy who literally said "He started it". Max is also trying to say that in every clip I've seen. It doesn't matter who started it, but if that is the basis of someones argument to try to justify the attempted murder, I would argue that Garret in fact DID start it.

    • @TJ-lu1eb
      @TJ-lu1eb 4 роки тому +4

      @@chuckchuckerson5364 Please go back and look at the play. Garrett did NOT drive Rudolph's head into the ground. The tackle was not rough and they LANDED ON GARRETT's BACK when they fell. Garrett didn't drive him into the ground. You could possibly argue that it was late, but it was not malicious. He pulled Rudolph down with him as he fell back. Rudolph went berserk and started trying to rip Garrett's helmet off AND kicked him in the nuts! I totally understand what Kellerman is saying. Everyone is outraged because Garrett's crazy was worse than Rudolph's crazy. That doesn't mean Rudolph wasn't crazy.

  • @justaction
    @justaction 4 роки тому +17

    Max "I will address that." Kellerman

  • @hazegocrazy404
    @hazegocrazy404 4 роки тому +32

    Max has to be the only person who’s been in a fight

    • @Jof_
      @Jof_ 4 роки тому

      Mist GoCrazy he covers boxing. He’s been in a lot of fights. Lol

    • @MateusHenrique-of4bc
      @MateusHenrique-of4bc 4 роки тому

      @@Jof_ boxing on HBO

    • @natejt
      @natejt 4 роки тому

      and in creed

    • @fear7126
      @fear7126 4 роки тому

      Boxing isn't hitting someone with a helmet with only 7 seconds on the clock and fighting??? Bro Mason pissed he got hit late with let me say it again 7 SECONDS LEFT and hes losing.

  • @michaelbobadilla
    @michaelbobadilla 4 роки тому +55

    cant wait to watch his 30 for 30 in 10 years. "The Trials of Myles"

  • @BlackMan-qg1ch
    @BlackMan-qg1ch 4 роки тому +16

    Probably a rare time when I agree with max when I seen the replay I said oh naw Rudolph started that 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @barryhallsack2434
      @barryhallsack2434 4 роки тому +2

      Facts the more I look at it the more I agree with Max

    • @shatukiki
      @shatukiki 4 роки тому

      That's how a child defends his actions. "He started it". It doesn't matter. What matters is what Rudolph actually did and what Garrett actually did. And there is no evidence Rudolph's intent was to hit Garrett in the head with a helmet had he been successful in removing it.

  • @MsRami2012
    @MsRami2012 4 роки тому +41

    S.A. smith should never wear that sweather again

  • @337boy4
    @337boy4 4 роки тому +29

    What if Mason got off Myles Helmet when he tried and hit him with it. then would everybody still be overreacting

    • @smithnwesson990
      @smithnwesson990 4 роки тому

      Umm he did that AFTER myles slammed him in the ground after the ball was gone.

    • @elijahelmore942
      @elijahelmore942 4 роки тому

      Yes. Yes they would...
      Next.

  • @bitnissan
    @bitnissan 4 роки тому +10

    lol max the only one talking like a man, the rest of em talking like desk jockeys.

  • @jeanothelus4473
    @jeanothelus4473 4 роки тому +6

    I feel you Max

  • @Benj722
    @Benj722 4 роки тому +7

    I’m with Max here

  • @erikhopkins9307
    @erikhopkins9307 4 роки тому +5

    Max = Facts
    SAS and DW = Emotion

  • @wydjohnny
    @wydjohnny 4 роки тому +13

    Max is right. Everyone is being too emotional

  • @marka.1130
    @marka.1130 4 роки тому +14

    I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I actually agree with Max...

  • @chrisruhmann9109
    @chrisruhmann9109 4 роки тому +23

    It's somewhere in between the two, Max is underplayin it and Stephen A is overplaying it probs cuz he's a Steelers fan

  • @giokinarf7384
    @giokinarf7384 4 роки тому +6

    Bruh I agree with Max 100% all he basically saying is Rudolph started a fight and loss n that's all I saw and for everybody saying wat if he open Rudolph head I say wat if Rudolph got Garrett's helmet off 1st

  • @gamedaytb8338
    @gamedaytb8338 4 роки тому +6

    Low key I agree with max and I don’t do that very often

  • @powderedtoastfacekillah734
    @powderedtoastfacekillah734 4 роки тому +21

    Rudolph initiated the fight
    SAS doesn’t want him to held accountable at all
    Why is that? 🤔🤔🤔 Very disappointing

    • @emmanuelcalderon1982
      @emmanuelcalderon1982 4 роки тому +1

      Nope the late hit started the fight

    • @powderedtoastfacekillah734
      @powderedtoastfacekillah734 4 роки тому +3

      Emmanuel Calderon no a late hit will get a flag. Rudolph pulling Myles’ helmet started the fight try again

    • @OB-xf3jz
      @OB-xf3jz 4 роки тому

      @@powderedtoastfacekillah734 doesn't matter who started the fight, the action was uncalled for and deserves whatever punishment he receives. this isn't the third grade where you can say "he started it". these are professionals. when one athlete acts unprofessional, you don't get the right to assault them.

    • @powderedtoastfacekillah734
      @powderedtoastfacekillah734 4 роки тому +2

      Omar if you start a fight with someone trust me the cops will care. You will face repercussions
      Only children think there are no consequences for their actions. Rudolph should be penalized for his actions as well stop being ridiculous

    • @crawfish19
      @crawfish19 4 роки тому

      PowdaToastFace Killah I agree but so should Garrett.

  • @cameronray1387
    @cameronray1387 4 роки тому +2

    Max is right, everyone else is just too emotional

  • @rakeembowdry4040
    @rakeembowdry4040 4 роки тому +3

    Max made some great points

  • @mckaybrown7949
    @mckaybrown7949 4 роки тому +4

    I’m shocked at how many people take Max’s side on this

  • @Smvelie1
    @Smvelie1 4 роки тому +12

    “Game action” is intentionally throwing a 95 mph fastball at someone’s head? Her point is stupid. Max is right.

  • @mtatom3
    @mtatom3 4 роки тому +4

    I’m convinced he Max the only one who been in a street fight besides the fact he commentates on boxing ......you can’t come looking for smoke and then get upset when you suffocate from it

  • @kenshinhimura9154
    @kenshinhimura9154 4 роки тому +18

    Max is right for once

  • @DB333DB
    @DB333DB 4 роки тому +16

    I totally agree with Max on this one

  • @kierong8196
    @kierong8196 4 роки тому +23

    I’m with Max!

  • @bgooddna
    @bgooddna 4 роки тому +3

    Yeah Max i feel u king thanks for ur insight

  • @chikanojuarez816
    @chikanojuarez816 4 роки тому +9

    It's bad sportsmanship on both party's point blank 💯😎

  • @manuelyanez4417
    @manuelyanez4417 4 роки тому +14

    I’m with max

    • @Amb252
      @Amb252 4 роки тому

      And your an idiot

  • @nefspeaks1983
    @nefspeaks1983 4 роки тому +4

    1st time i agree with Max

  • @kingpin201
    @kingpin201 4 роки тому +2

    They could also go by another "what if" in this arguement..... even though it means nothing since it did not happen. But what if Rudolph could have snapped the neck of Miles Garret????? Is he not going to be punished for that.... plus Rudolph did make the incident go further than it needed to by trying to twist the helmet of Miles Garret. It's just that everyone is looking at it like a classic schoolyard fight, all about the final blow and overlooking how it got to that point, beside Mile overpowering Rudolph all game. Every arguement does not need to be one-sided, because (even though it didn't happen) it could have went another way and be just as bad. There are still two sides to this issue. If this were a crime scene, the arguments would be different.

  • @backyardbullies9105
    @backyardbullies9105 4 роки тому +18

    Y’all act like these quarterbacks aren’t grown men too! The quarterback is a professional athlete as well. Stay in your lane!

    • @gphiltv9444
      @gphiltv9444 4 роки тому

      Fax

    • @gphiltv9444
      @gphiltv9444 4 роки тому +1

      Fax what if the qb was built like cam it would not of had the same reaction. They both are men like u said

    • @MrShitfire
      @MrShitfire 4 роки тому +3

      Thats the problem with the pussification of this sport QBs get babied and coddled so much that they get this sense of entitlement "like how dare you hit me I'm a QB". Miles Garrett hit on Mason Rudolph well within the rules thats why the ref didn't throw the flag. But because of this so called entitlement Mason Rudolph felt it necessary to attack Miles Garrett for playing football