Sorry for the delay on Ororon video should be out tomorrow currently moving houses so things are a mess rn Check out Hgc’s video here: ua-cam.com/video/UP_FiD9engU/v-deo.html
About the Aloy section Couldnt she just, you know, ignore the infusion completely and play like a quick swap reverse melt dps?. I never built her, but looking at her kit i felt like that was the better playstyle for her than infusion dps IIRC(havent played GI in awhile), her multiplier is slightly higher than Chongyun at C6 I mean she's still shit esp for a 5s even after that playstyle change dont get me wrong, but not like, super shit which i notice people tend to exaggerate her as such
But Flip, Eula's best realistic team doesn't have a single character who was present during her debut. I think it's pretty unfair to say that she got barely any buff compared to her release state.
True. Raiden, Furina, Mika didn't exist. Alot of enemies have physical resistance or elemental shields these days, Mika doesn't apply cryo and has his buff tied to the amount of enemies you hit which doesn't help when most chambers only have single target.
mika + furina was 10% team dps increase compared to a team she had access to in 2.0 for xiao faruzan was 50% and same with hu tao and yelan, look at all the good supports and suppoprt sets none of them work with physical she has recieved the least amount of improvements since her release out all the carries
the good old days when we could live in blissful ignorance believing siegwinne is gonna be some 4* hydro healer with a hydro critdmg c6 just at the thaught of it this alone couldve given her more reasons to be used even you kept everything else in her kit the exact same makes it even more depressing
She's still much better than albedo chiori dehya jean diluc keqing eula yoimiya qiqi ayato etc She's decent b-a tier , she have the same usage rate as mualani
@@kingdoom5022 that usage rate is by ppl who own her , who obviously wanted the character for non meta reasons and would find reasons to play her even if she's trash .. i"m not even gonna acknowledge that first line
@@kingdoom5022 "she's still much better than.. " Huh?? You're kidding right.. - Albedo is a sub dps, does more dmg than her.. - Chiori is basically albedo on crack, higher dmg.. - Dehya is in a greatvslot now with mualani, kinich, - - Lyney and even Neuvillette if you dont have Zhongli.. - Jean is one of the best healer to be paired with Furina - Diluc is on of the best plunge character with Xianyun after Xiao and Gaming - Keqing aggravate is nice and now with Xilonen (especially C2) she can do unlimited burst work.. - Yoimiya still does high NA Vape dmg, and once was a meta pick.. - Ayato is basically an easier to play childe in Xiangling Vape team, and has the most flexible team.. She is fun, and heals decently, but in every spot she wants, there's a better character that.. And for furina, there's better healer on her team than sigewinne.. I agree with Qiqi and Eula tho.. And Usage Rate does not mean anything..
Can't be a "worst units in genshin history" video without Eula being mentioned 😭. Our poor queen needs some love, and I sure hope that anything in Natlan can save her.
If I remember correctly the double geo buff wasn't even that good UNTIL they changed it at the same time the zhongli buff came out so double geo wasn't even that popular during zhongli's initial release. It was dark times back then for geo.
This is the first time I’ve actually seen someone describe what the hell aloy does, I’ve been playing consistently since 3.6 which was a year and a half ago and this is the first time anyone has ever explained wtf aloy does to me LMAO
True, vocal bad players don't know how to play Dehya makes her reputation bad. They don't know about overburgeon, strong Dehya team since day 1. But yeah easy clickbait for easy money, typical youtuber with no substance.
Yeah, I remember how this other guy banned me from his old channel for daring to say Kazuha is better than Zhongli :DDDD Just to be clear, he argued that Kazuha isn't as universal as the latter, because you can put Zhongli in every team and he buffs every element. Its just that he forgot "universality" doesn't narrow down to quantity, but also quality, and Zhongli is rarely the BiS option in the many teams he can be played in. Either way, its pretty amusing thinking back at it, but everyone can change! I mean, surely...
I remember when Eula came out all the clickbait was about how her C6 was too powerful, over time we learned that it was if anything the other way around, all her other cons were way too far behind.
Dehya being a standard character would lead me to believe that Hoyo intends for you to get her C6 in order for her to work. C2 is already a substantial improvement giving her essentially 100% uptime (technically theres a 1 second delay but thats virtually nothing). Trying to make her a dps is a fools errand. She clearly works better as an off field pyro applicator.
I used Golden Troupe at C2 then went back to Emblem for C3 because you want to use her burst when it's available. She's my best pyro unit but I have invested a lot and no dead stats in my artifacts and both HP% and Atk% are good. Unfortunately I know she's be powercrept by C0 Maivuka in a few weeks. Or maybe my future team with her might be EmilieC1-DeyhaC3-MaivukaC???-Furina C6.
Don't forget his shield was barely stronger than Diona's shield, a 4 star character released on his own banner that also heals, generates energy, and applies elements for reactions, all of which he doesn't have.
Zhongli also needs the same constellation that Diona does to even be able to heal co-op teammates, which is really bad given he was a 5* and this was back when it wasn't as hard to get a 4* and their cons compared to today
eula's case is the great example no matter how strong your kit is how high your multipliers are supports carry the game not even neuvilette would be a good physical dps obviusly actual nevilette has hydro resonance furina doesnt lose 2/3 of her dmage on his team, there no dps black hole in the form of the electro slot, has vv has scroll has xilonen and kazuha like so on If they are smart they don't release another phys carry until they fix the million issues the damage type has, and they should start with the electro slot
Remember a certain guidemaker running defense for Sigewinne becauseeveryone said she was an easy skip by saying shes an upgrade over Kokomi in the mono hydro comp anc fhat was like the most damned by feint praise defense ive ever seen. Lol
Dehya isnt too bad anymore. She's not top tier but she's not trash tier anymore at least until Mavuika comes out and even she does completely steam roll Dehyas role I rather have Dehya as my 2nd team off field pyro than play xiangling
Well, cool thing that you got a collab, but the other guy was on my list to not watch again. Nothing against him personally, but from the few videos I saw, I felt that they were just done to make videos where most of the facts aren't even checked and then used to make a point. For example saying that the biggest HP pool in Inazuma abyss was 1.6M which even I as a non-TC guy knew was just straight up wrong. I would have said it was just a small error, but when you want to release one video per day, it's clear that he doesn't care much about quality control.
@@Modie noway I found similar opinion. Same, this guy got on my not to watch list too. His TC facts are just wrong. Like one of those takes "neuvillette is very easy to build cs he scales on 3 stats".. no, that doesn't work like that. The least stats you scale on the longer you have to farm to get the same amount of subs. That's also one of big mualani upsides, she scales on em. There also was hella lot of other wrongs in that single video so I could see he understands nothing he's talking about(and yes, I watched more then one vid just to get sure). I wanted to correct him on every single point but before writing 50 page essay I got to conclusion that no-one cares and decided just not to watch him.
Video is really good. Just kinda weird seeing footage of other characters when talking about someone in particular. (Aloy section had a bloom team without her and zhongli part had a cryo team without him)
i know this might sound knitpicky but i was looking forward to hearing both of you bounce ideas off of each other, im subbed to both of you, and yeah while this is a collab, it felt more like 2 separate videos on the same topic spliced together which for me made the collab feel kinda pointless, but im a prick so who cares what i think
Post-buff Zhongli is a great unit, but yeah, pre-buff was dark times. I accidentally pulled him while building pity on his first banner in 1.1 and was absolutely pissed. Even after the buff, I was skeptical; thankfully things worked out for him in the end.
Aloy bomb can be qctivated with furina summons so you can actually get your Infusion really consistently fast the problem shes still alloy i found melt alloy with furina has really good damage but it atleast it works thats why i still believe she still not the worst shes fun and i like how the bomb works
As a eula lover myself I use eula, raiden, furina and xilonen and she beats everything pretty much with no issue, though it is mostly due to furina and xilonen increasing her damage ( xilonen is c2 so 60 percent more crit damage). And my highly invested set(s) of marchues artifacts. But she can work which makes me happy as she is one of the best normal attack animation characters in the game up there with arlechinno and raiden.
Albedo ... during he's first run I buil my pitty on his banner to be prepare for Xiao first banner. First time and last time I build a pitty for a character
Albedo was my favorite character in the early days in low AR when the overworld was hard and not having good builds on my other characters. I got Cinnabar Spindle and he was providing most of the damage on the team in a passive way. He'd still be good if his construct wasn't so fragile and so easily destroyed by large or boss enemies.
Sigewinne's one time to shine was being the _3rd_ resistance shredder in a shielded Golem 1 shot team. A funny niche, but a niche of niches nonetheless.
I feel so so bad for my queen Eula (my first limited DPS), her burst is hard to use and does less damage than a single Mualani vape. With her being this backloaded, she can’t control her timing, can’t hit bosses that move slightly and can’t get a 2nd burst for boss immune phases/multiwave to save her life without multiple favs from mika and Rosaria and has to rely on average normal attacks (C0 shogun is cope). This is worsened by annoying mobile enemies, high phys res all over the place and very few ways to buff phys dmg and not much support compared to someone like dilec and keqing. Guess we just hope that Citlatli is a Zhongli powercreep that provides a massive phys shred, energy regeneration and phys buff for the incoming Capitano phys carry so Eula can get some breadcrumbs from his supports and his artefact set. (High on copium) On the other hand, if sigewinne in her current state was a 4 star, it would make her power level more understandable, but well it is what it is.
I have used Dehya in my recent abyss clears since 5.0 as hyper carry and she clears just fine. Compared to some 5 stars who have a higher rating then her.
7:06 I dont remember what the geo rework did besides buff the double geo resonance, why did this mechanic stop working? Anyway, I still like Albedo. His kit seems confusing back then and in hindsight but I think it was just the hoyo devs balancing a character too hard at the time without realizing they did it to a flawed Element that was unpopular. They gave the options to make him a Nuke burster if you go for attack and an offield sub dps with def. Obviously that didnt age well and lacked foresight, but I understand the thought process. They also made zhongli on Release this way but as we know changed it. Albedo mostly got buffs through other means, the geo res core Was good after rework, his damage got better with gorou, Spindel and an artifact set, which still does decent damage to this day if you have it. If you dont have spindle there is now finally a def craftable in natlan. It is kinda sad he is more of the neglected characters, especially lore wise, but I am used to gacha being loooong so I can sit out the redemption.
HP scaling on the metior and pillers,interruption resistance when using hold version of his skill and a 20% universal resistance shred for every element when his shield is up. tbh as someone who was running his as a shield bot sense he came out the only thing that really mattered was in the interrupt resistance everything else was a nice bonus and didn’t really change him all that much his damage is still pretty low so I never understood the zhongli slander
@@Hibiki_Io His launch was quite literally the shield version of Qiqi. You have to be intentionally obtuse to not realize that, and having a 20% res shred lets him compete with VV holders against most typical 10% all res enemies.
@@sweetillusions5495 a 10% doesn’t really do a whole lot at the end of the day. and people use him for the same thing now as they did back then. the shield. the only thing the update really did was was some QOL that should have been then and increase his personal damage witch still isn’t great at the end of the day. I happy with the zhonglu changes but I’m not gonna sit here and pretend he was this god awful unit some shitty tester made him out to be when they literally said themselves they didn’t test him with HP
@@Hibiki_Io Except he was pretty damn awful on launch and was changed specifically for that reason, as they definitely wouldn't let an archon be bad. A unit being a shield and nothing else is just rather useless unless you manage to be so bad at the game that a shield is necessary to cover your mistakes. A 20% all res shred is quite a big deal because its an outright 15% final damage boost against 10% res enemies, not too far behind VV set at 25% but applies to the whole team rather than whatever your anemo swirled. Throw in Petra set and he can nearly match Kazuha's buff power only being slightly weaker and more defensively oriented.
@ 1. he wasn’t changed because he was awful he was changed because hoyo stocks got hit from the news coverage and rage. 2. They wouldn’t let a archon be bad? Really? They literally designed mobs in a way to completely kill ventis viability. It was so bad they literally had to go back and nerf mobs all throughout 2.X updates 3. The shield is the main reason people use him to this day res shred or not he would still be used for the shield that was the main thing I was getting at. 4 Petra doesn’t work the way u think it does unless you’re telling me u pick up crystalize drops with zhogli himself. I was there when zhogli came out. I had him level 80 day one I’ve seen how his sheild worked out the gate. People said it was worse than dionas and that’s flat out wrong. these were people trying to max out his damage and not his HP so yes his shield would break
Also another thing, I have no clue what makes Dehya better nowadays as I personally don't see any significant changes that makes her suddenly good, she just becomes an alternative enabler or option for the most part but definitely nothing to the point I can say I would slot her into the team. The only teams rn I could reasonably say that she would be pretty good with is Lyney Bennett Dehya comps, Mualani Comps, and an odd HyperBurgeon comp. She still has the weakness of how her skill works meaning its not a replacement for either healer or shielder, nor is her damage output strong enough to consider being good enough. Enlighten me though cause I explored Dehya to her grave and my rating of her was niche and underwhelming.
I have no doubt in my mind she will be forgotten again after the archon releases, but right now she’s good because she’s not Xiangling… she applies Pyro off-field while not being energy hungry. Without dendro this wouldnt be the case
Dehya was never a replacement for a healer. She's a shieldless shielder though. So those consecrated beasts will pop everything, even a Zhongli shield, but she'll keep going. It's also skill based. Every other off field pyro unit is burst focused. She's great for Kinich and Mualani. She's better for Chasca for being one of the squishiest characters around and wanting pyro units while avoiding the struggles of aiming Chasca + spinning Xiangling. She's not a split scaler, she's a dual scaler. She doesn't force you to build one stat for half her kit to work like Albedo or Xinyan, she just let's you have less dead stats because she uses both atk and hp, and em is always an option. Why are you downplaying the use of an enabler? Hydro is considered the best element in the game precisely because it enables other elements. She offers slower application for other slower characters. That's why she's good for Mualani. Besides, it's the same timing as Furina's application. The timing isn't the issue; players just hate on her numbers. If you really want a good "Dehya bis" team, you want Raiden and Chev. It actually makes use of her entire kit and can't slot out for someone like Xiangling, because you want her defensive utility and shorter field time dps period to pair off with Raiden (or Clorinde/Navia for alternatives of 2 short dps teams with Dehya). The flex slot can be anyone from Bennett to the many electro 4*. It's a fairly strong team but also one of the comfiest to boot. Dehya just got better synergy with other characters than before. And people figured out she decent without trying to shove her into the typical pyro dps niche. She's better than half of the character list if you actually sit down and look at the characters. She's just that flexible of a unit that will grant you a lot of success of you work with her.
Unless Capitano is the Eula powercreep with modern competitive scalings and Dmg. If we are gonna make another phys support might as well bust out the big guns and have then give phys dmg like 60% DEF ignore or sth like that. If Eula is supposed to stay the sole Phys dps in the game she really could use it. But on the other hand who except eula mains would pull a phys specific support no matter how big their buffs are unless they come after or before new updated phys dps
before i watch i just want to say that i just got c6 dehya and with mona furina bennett she us one of the strongest carries in the game. and the best part is the team works fine with her only needing c1 albedo was awful at release and still awful, sad bc he was my first limited pull... started in november 2021. if his flower became invincible hed still be mid not one abyss clip showing the characters discussed is certainly a decision
No abyss footage today cs noone have those units lol. Also they were switching a lot between performance on release and today, more on release what can't really be tested today(imagine building albedo on 1.2 set)
Is this a safe place to say xiao.....as a xiao haver.... Like hear me out😭 Hes such a high investment character both in team building and character build(lack of f2p weapons for him). Youd ideally need c6 faruzan for him to do decent dmg AND xianyun for dmg increase and healing,while compared to a character like mualani who can js needs pyro on field to clear content. Like dont get me wrong,I rly do love xiao as a character but hes a really expensive character to build and navigate around which is kinda bad choice design imo😭 And doesnt rly help the fact that i kinda find his gameplay clunky as well
Probably to avoid Tectone's deranged fans. Enviosity hasn't posted on UA-cam in like half a year, yet still to this day they continue to harass his comment section.
Genshin designs have the worst designs of all hoyoverse games, not only designs even their gameplay and kits, even though genshin dont have powercreep, they made the characters feel worst as a unit like why did they put dehya in standard after her first release? Why not klee, albedo, and eula? They are older units than dehya and even tighnari is way better than them, tighnari should not go to standard, he is too good to put on standard. Genshin devs really dont know how to make a proper unit and just put all to natlan characters. The only powercreep i see in genshin is more likely an exploration powercreep more than how well they are as a dps/support units.
Limited units cannot be moved to standard due to gatcha laws. Tighnari and Dehya were advertised from the beginning as going to switch to standard. Dehya isn't cracked, but she's a much better character than people give her credit for. She's very flexible of a unit and is a strong yet comfy choice in many teams now.
about dehya, the character itself is not bad, she has a nice design, and she has an interesting (in theory) kit.. her actually kit, on the other hand, is very badly executed.. her damage is lame, and the ult-cancelling jump is the cherry on top of the shit sandwich.. and I'm just using her as a placeholder in my mualani team (dehya c1, xilonen c2r1, mualani c2r1, sigewinne), as her pyro infusion helps mualani a lot.. also, she's a placeholder bc mavuika will take this spot, ofc.. as for sigewinne, she's not bad at all.. she's one of only two healers who heals the entire team with her skill, rather than having to ult, or having to rotate the party to be able to heal everyone.. the other one is baizhu, but he's a garbage character (and heals from half to 2/3 of what sigewinne does).. my melusine is using the sacrificial bow r5, so she can cast her skill twice.. sigewinne worked flawlessly in my hyperbloom team (furina c0r1, raiden, nahida c2r1, sigewinne/kokomi) and in my bloom team (kirara c6, nilou c0r1, nahida c2r1, sigewinne).. in the hyperbloom, she counters furina's hp drain faster than furina herself can drain it (so, fanfare galore); in bloom, she heals while the bountiful cores explode like a new year's eve (so my nahida never gets her hp to the red line, like in the video lol); in my mualani team, she heals, gives a bit of particles, adds to xilonen's samples, AND the cherry on top: she doesn't steal mualani's vapes.. all of this while having from ~22.5k to 45k of healing for each member in the party (my melusine heals ~4.5k for each bounce of the bubble, as it has 5 bounces: 22.5k, or 45k with the sacrificial's reset), while my kokomi have 60k of healing for the character that is active at the moment (my does ~6k per bounce/pulse/spasm of the jellyfish, as it bounces/pulses/spasms 10 times: 60k).. I do agree her ult is pointless, however, I only use it to gain time during the CD of the team.. so, in the end, it doesn't make a difference.. "but this mualani team, what about other units??" sure, jean: idk, I don't use; qiqi: idk, I don't use; diona: idk, I don't use; dori: who?? barbara: tested, her ring steals the vape as it touches the enemy while mualani is still marking them; yaoyao: tested, nice healing, but the element doesn't match xilonen's samples; sayu: tested, heals ok-ish but doesn't synergize with mualani or xilonen; kuki: tested, nice damage and healing, but only heals the current character while lowering her own hp in the process; charlotte: tested, nice healing, and good in furina freeze, but doesn't synergize with mualani; chevreuse: tested, but she's on my overload team (raiden, clorinde, arlecchino, chevreuse), and her buff makes my c6 chevreuse even better for this.. although she does work in other teams, she was made for overload, so in my overload team she is; arlecchino: tested, has an amazing damage, but doesn't synergize with any healers, as it'd consume her BoL; yoimiya: tested, although I love her, she needs to be in my zhongli team, so I pair her with zhongli, yelan and some healer.. here tho, she just keeps getting interrupted.. "but xilonen heals!!" yea, but that's not her role.. furina also heals, but you don't see ppl leaving the singer with an uptime higher than the salon members.. also, I only pulled for xilonen bc of her res shred and, as my is c2r1, she also gives a lot of buffs for the team, which made my mualani's single-hit damage went from 400-600k to 500-850k.. also also, my xilonen has 4.116 DEF, with both skill and ult at lvl9, this means her ult's healing output (176,8% DEF + 1.018) would be around 8.3k per second, in a 12-second duration (tested and confirmed while writing this part).. that's a total of almost 100k, but it only heals the active character.. so, again, gotta be rotating to be able to heal everyone, while sigewinne, I just need to press E, everybody is healed at once, and I can go back to action while the bubble is bouncing.. if I didn't mention anyone, I either indeed forget it, or don't like it (thus, I won't be using, like bennett, xiangling, xingqiu, thoma), or I don't have it (baizhu, childe, ayato).. "wait, didn't you say you tested baizhu?? how did you test him without having him??" I tested in a friend's account, he is c4 (for some reason) and r2 (even worse), and his healing still is outperformed by my sigewinne c0 with sac. bow r5 (something around 15% worse).. anyway, thanks for coming to my ted talk..
You know you could replace Sigewinne with Candice and Dehya with XL for better damage and buffing. Replacing Dehya with XL because Deyha can't keep up with Candice. Sigewinne is doing nothing in that team unless you are you are using the Song set which is lower than what Candice offers with less field time. Mind you XL needs at least over 250 er on Fav.
@@robinj4286 I can't 'replace' bc they are in the same team.. the team is dehya, xilonen, mualani, sigewinne.. candace in sigewinne's place would be a healing loss.. and she's not even leveled up, she's 20 bc I don't use her.. also, she has nothing to offer, doesn't heal nor shields.. in this line of thought, my furina would be better.. but then, who heals the entire team at once?? no, sigewinne is using 2p/2p millelith/vourukasha for the +40% hp.. it might've passed under your radar, but I said my xilonen is c2r1.. it wouldn't make any sense removing her signature weapon for a 4*.. and with this team, they kill large enemies between 1 and 2 cycles of dehya's skill, and bosses between 3 and 4, so basically, I don't even ult with them.. meaning, ER is a dead stat.. but if you're interested, their ER is: dehya 140.8%; xilonen 116.2%; mualani 122%; sigewinne 189.5%..
Flip, is it me or wanderer feels a little underwhelming dmg-wise? He’s good :3 I’m not saying he’s bad at all (I clarify this because the video is about bad characters, but I don’t think wandy is bad). But I’ve noticed that he struggles to deal as much damage as my other DPSs, and I was wondering if it was a me thing or if he doesn’t deal as much as other DPSs Or maybe his teams aren’t that good at the moment (compared to other characters that have really synergistic teams, like Xiao)
Yk, i've felt the same ever since "finished" building my Wanderer c0r0. As a hypercarry, i understood that his damage heavily depends on having the right supports and investment. But, something i've learned is that Wanderer specifically has a lot of skill expression that can hinder your dps if you dont know about it, like his best combos (changes depending on his attackspeed and weapon), multiwave rotation tricks to have the best uptime with buffs, the use of support vs a shielder, efficiently using the hydro swirl, using the dash effectively, etc. There's also the thing that a lot of his highest damage is locked behind constelations (it sounds obvious but other dps's dont gain as much as Wanderer does with cons) and artifact quality, since he deals the majority of the damage in the teams he's in. I do think he feels weaker to most recent dps's and teams, but learning a bit more about him might help you get to his max potential :3. GxG Noir and SevenPls might help you learn a thing or 2 you didnt know or consider, check them out if you're interested
Honestly yes. I do have a C3 Faru which probably skews things but compared to my Mono Hydro, Clorinde, Mualani and hell even my RaiFischl or Lynette plunge teams he feels very lacklustre. And despite the fact he needs a shield to feel comfortable to play his damage suffers a lot from it. Bennet Faruzan Furina seems to give him perfect coverage though so Im not really sure how much stronger he can get from this.
Dehya is only "good" if you have kinich or mualani. Otherwise she's still as useless as ever and she's probably gonna get powercrept by Mualani in both of those teams 😂
She's decent bc burning teams exist. Burnmelt/Burnvape are good and Dehya just so happens to provide the most comfort in those teams. Also how is supposed Mualani to powercreep Dehya XD? You probably mean Mavuika.
She works really well with mualani and kinich. Mualani can vape all her hits with dehya without dehya needing to build any er. And on kinich as well where she has good pyro aplication for the burning effect to be always up for kinich
Burning and Burnvape/burnmelt teams are really good with her, beacuse her skill can maintain pyro aura without ER, has defensive utility and her negligible damage makes her more flexible with artifact sets and stats.
Sorry for the delay on Ororon video should be out tomorrow currently moving houses so things are a mess rn
Check out Hgc’s video here: ua-cam.com/video/UP_FiD9engU/v-deo.html
About the Aloy section
Couldnt she just, you know, ignore the infusion completely and play like a quick swap reverse melt dps?. I never built her, but looking at her kit i felt like that was the better playstyle for her than infusion dps
IIRC(havent played GI in awhile), her multiplier is slightly higher than Chongyun at C6
I mean she's still shit esp for a 5s even after that playstyle change dont get me wrong, but not like, super shit which i notice people tend to exaggerate her as such
At least Zhongli got fixed. And because he is the archon he is the only one who will
calling eula "backloaded" is a good way to compliment her derriere.
Derriere is elite vocabulary
@@FliponYT being creative to avoid being filtered by youtube bots.
@@FliponYTFrench word RAAAAH 🗣️
i've added that to my vocabulary lol
So I can just talk in French and I'm elite? Hohoho
But Flip, Eula's best realistic team doesn't have a single character who was present during her debut.
I think it's pretty unfair to say that she got barely any buff compared to her release state.
True. Raiden, Furina, Mika didn't exist. Alot of enemies have physical resistance or elemental shields these days, Mika doesn't apply cryo and has his buff tied to the amount of enemies you hit which doesn't help when most chambers only have single target.
mika + furina was 10% team dps increase compared to a team she had access to in 2.0 for xiao faruzan was 50% and same with hu tao and yelan, look at all the good supports and suppoprt sets none of them work with physical she has recieved the least amount of improvements since her release out all the carries
Eula's best team: Xingqiu Nahida Kuki
@@agadexis Trade for Freminet for similar results lmao
I want to know which hoyoverse employee looked at Sigewinnes kit and decided she should be a limited 5 star
They accidentally made the inazuma 4 star character designer work on a 5 star
the good old days when we could live in blissful ignorance believing siegwinne is gonna be some 4* hydro healer with a hydro critdmg c6
just at the thaught of it this alone couldve given her more reasons to be used even you kept everything else in her kit the exact same makes it even more depressing
She's still much better than albedo chiori dehya jean diluc keqing eula yoimiya qiqi ayato etc
She's decent b-a tier , she have the same usage rate as mualani
@@kingdoom5022 that usage rate is by ppl who own her , who obviously wanted the character for non meta reasons and would find reasons to play her even if she's trash .. i"m not even gonna acknowledge that first line
@@kingdoom5022 "she's still much better than.. "
Huh?? You're kidding right..
- Albedo is a sub dps, does more dmg than her..
- Chiori is basically albedo on crack, higher dmg..
- Dehya is in a greatvslot now with mualani, kinich, - - Lyney and even Neuvillette if you dont have Zhongli..
- Jean is one of the best healer to be paired with Furina
- Diluc is on of the best plunge character with Xianyun after Xiao and Gaming
- Keqing aggravate is nice and now with Xilonen (especially C2) she can do unlimited burst work..
- Yoimiya still does high NA Vape dmg, and once was a meta pick..
- Ayato is basically an easier to play childe in Xiangling Vape team, and has the most flexible team..
She is fun, and heals decently, but in every spot she wants, there's a better character that..
And for furina, there's better healer on her team than sigewinne..
I agree with Qiqi and Eula tho..
And Usage Rate does not mean anything..
Can't be a "worst units in genshin history" video without Eula being mentioned 😭. Our poor queen needs some love, and I sure hope that anything in Natlan can save her.
Citlali physical support trust.
Snezhnaya physical meta trust
@@slecchi4366 i'm laughing but i'm full of hopium !
@@slecchi4366 praying bro😭 🙏
If I remember correctly the double geo buff wasn't even that good UNTIL they changed it at the same time the zhongli buff came out so double geo wasn't even that popular during zhongli's initial release. It was dark times back then for geo.
it was dark times for geo for a very long time. even navia was accused of not being a "true" geo unit lol.
@@_mako Zajenda have some... questanable takes.
14:42 dead _child._ that would be like beating a dead _child,_ flip
I… good point
This is the first time I’ve actually seen someone describe what the hell aloy does, I’ve been playing consistently since 3.6 which was a year and a half ago and this is the first time anyone has ever explained wtf aloy does to me LMAO
Dehya in thumbnail, unsubscribed and blocked
he took that blow so that soul didnt have to, its true love guys 🥺
Same
True, vocal bad players don't know how to play Dehya makes her reputation bad.
They don't know about overburgeon, strong Dehya team since day 1.
But yeah easy clickbait for easy money, typical youtuber with no substance.
@@Richkero1995 What's the difference between normal burgeon and over version
@@sudiptaday7875it's copium after all.
🗿 Alercchino the best Pyro unit
The collab no one asked for, but we all needed.
Yeah, I remember how this other guy banned me from his old channel for daring to say Kazuha is better than Zhongli :DDDD
Just to be clear, he argued that Kazuha isn't as universal as the latter, because you can put Zhongli in every team and he buffs every element. Its just that he forgot "universality" doesn't narrow down to quantity, but also quality, and Zhongli is rarely the BiS option in the many teams he can be played in.
Either way, its pretty amusing thinking back at it, but everyone can change! I mean, surely...
So that's why Mr_Leech_HGC's voice sounds so familiar, of course it's Soul. About time for a collab I'd say.
It was written in his channel discretion or bio whatever you call it was there I accidentally found out
@@sudiptaday7875 same, that's where I saw it too
did the internet just like, forgive him or something, what happened
@@Internextion forgive for what
@@sudiptaday7875 verbally assaulting his brother live on stream to the point he cried (which was apparently a regular thing)
amber wasnt even good enough to be mentioned
Wasn't expecting a collab between you two but I watch you both, love your channels.
12:25 I'm a simple person. I see Sigewinne slander, I like. I hate that little demon.
I like that little demon but i also like for slander because i love slander.
Dude her skill dmg buff is ridiculously niche. It only works for off-field skills for one and it applies no hydro for a wet status.
I remember when Eula came out all the clickbait was about how her C6 was too powerful, over time we learned that it was if anything the other way around, all her other cons were way too far behind.
Oh hey flip is no longer procrastinating
I WAS NEVER
I think that Sigewinne will always, ALWAYS be on this list. Hard to powercreep her on the shite department.
Dehya being a standard character would lead me to believe that Hoyo intends for you to get her C6 in order for her to work.
C2 is already a substantial improvement giving her essentially 100% uptime (technically theres a 1 second delay but thats virtually nothing).
Trying to make her a dps is a fools errand. She clearly works better as an off field pyro applicator.
hold my beer
I used Golden Troupe at C2 then went back to Emblem for C3 because you want to use her burst when it's available. She's my best pyro unit but I have invested a lot and no dead stats in my artifacts and both HP% and Atk% are good. Unfortunately I know she's be powercrept by C0 Maivuka in a few weeks.
Or maybe my future team with her might be EmilieC1-DeyhaC3-MaivukaC???-Furina C6.
flip voice sounds high when soul starts talking
Ah yes. 1.1 Zhongli was truly something. You just had to be there.
Don't forget his shield was barely stronger than Diona's shield, a 4 star character released on his own banner that also heals, generates energy, and applies elements for reactions, all of which he doesn't have.
@@Raldphium It was incredible. I pulled him on the first day of his release and was so goddamn disappointed 😂
Zhongli also needs the same constellation that Diona does to even be able to heal co-op teammates, which is really bad given he was a 5* and this was back when it wasn't as hard to get a 4* and their cons compared to today
OMG MY BOYS COLLABED??? NO WAY!
Dehya is dual scaling, not split scaling
eula's case is the great example no matter how strong your kit is how high your multipliers are supports carry the game not even neuvilette would be a good physical dps obviusly actual nevilette has hydro resonance furina doesnt lose 2/3 of her dmage on his team, there no dps black hole in the form of the electro slot, has vv has scroll has xilonen and kazuha like so on
If they are smart they don't release another phys carry until they fix the million issues the damage type has, and they should start with the electro slot
Remember a certain guidemaker running defense for Sigewinne becauseeveryone said she was an easy skip by saying shes an upgrade over Kokomi in the mono hydro comp anc fhat was like the most damned by feint praise defense ive ever seen. Lol
It's it jello
BTW, I heard the Rooftop Run ost in the background. NOICE
I usually forget that Aloy even exists in the game unless someones reminds me.
Dehya isnt too bad anymore. She's not top tier but she's not trash tier anymore at least until Mavuika comes out and even she does completely steam roll Dehyas role I rather have Dehya as my 2nd team off field pyro than play xiangling
Well, cool thing that you got a collab, but the other guy was on my list to not watch again. Nothing against him personally, but from the few videos I saw, I felt that they were just done to make videos where most of the facts aren't even checked and then used to make a point. For example saying that the biggest HP pool in Inazuma abyss was 1.6M which even I as a non-TC guy knew was just straight up wrong.
I would have said it was just a small error, but when you want to release one video per day, it's clear that he doesn't care much about quality control.
@@Modie noway I found similar opinion. Same, this guy got on my not to watch list too. His TC facts are just wrong. Like one of those takes "neuvillette is very easy to build cs he scales on 3 stats".. no, that doesn't work like that. The least stats you scale on the longer you have to farm to get the same amount of subs. That's also one of big mualani upsides, she scales on em. There also was hella lot of other wrongs in that single video so I could see he understands nothing he's talking about(and yes, I watched more then one vid just to get sure). I wanted to correct him on every single point but before writing 50 page essay I got to conclusion that no-one cares and decided just not to watch him.
Traveler isn't on the list, GEO MC mains rise up
Notice how Mika isn't on this list? Another Mika victory.
>4 stars were excluded
Video is really good. Just kinda weird seeing footage of other characters when talking about someone in particular. (Aloy section had a bloom team without her and zhongli part had a cryo team without him)
i know this might sound knitpicky but i was looking forward to hearing both of you bounce ideas off of each other, im subbed to both of you, and yeah while this is a collab, it felt more like 2 separate videos on the same topic spliced together which for me made the collab feel kinda pointless, but im a prick so who cares what i think
"Al-bed-oh"
Please make a court on Juice
3:08 we still get her birthday mail lol. not sure if people who dont have her get it tho
Post-buff Zhongli is a great unit, but yeah, pre-buff was dark times. I accidentally pulled him while building pity on his first banner in 1.1 and was absolutely pissed. Even after the buff, I was skeptical; thankfully things worked out for him in the end.
Im here for the hate energy.
Aloy bomb can be qctivated with furina summons so you can actually get your Infusion really consistently fast the problem shes still alloy i found melt alloy with furina has really good damage but it atleast it works thats why i still believe she still not the worst shes fun and i like how the bomb works
As a eula lover myself I use eula, raiden, furina and xilonen and she beats everything pretty much with no issue, though it is mostly due to furina and xilonen increasing her damage ( xilonen is c2 so 60 percent more crit damage). And my highly invested set(s) of marchues artifacts. But she can work which makes me happy as she is one of the best normal attack animation characters in the game up there with arlechinno and raiden.
Albedo ... during he's first run I buil my pitty on his banner to be prepare for Xiao first banner. First time and last time I build a pitty for a character
Albedo was my favorite character in the early days in low AR when the overworld was hard and not having good builds on my other characters. I got Cinnabar Spindle and he was providing most of the damage on the team in a passive way. He'd still be good if his construct wasn't so fragile and so easily destroyed by large or boss enemies.
09:13 LYNEY MENTIONED!
"King deshirt"
My C5 R1 Dehya slaps. 50k slams when ulting in mono pyro.
so my c2 out damages yours yipeee cant wait for c6 then
My two favorite genshin youtubers lezzzgoo
Sigewinne's one time to shine was being the _3rd_ resistance shredder in a shielded Golem 1 shot team. A funny niche, but a niche of niches nonetheless.
For the people who built dehya as em y I used her for my cyno team when I needed stagger resistance and to half the dmg on cyno
Thoma is better than her for our Cyner boy.
@@manday2267 never lvled him and haven’t used so I’ll just keep that I enjoy using dehya even before the new artifacts
Release Zhongli showed me people lied when they said they played who they liked and not how strong said character is.
Back loading Eula 😏
I feel so so bad for my queen Eula (my first limited DPS), her burst is hard to use and does less damage than a single Mualani vape. With her being this backloaded, she can’t control her timing, can’t hit bosses that move slightly and can’t get a 2nd burst for boss immune phases/multiwave to save her life without multiple favs from mika and Rosaria and has to rely on average normal attacks (C0 shogun is cope). This is worsened by annoying mobile enemies, high phys res all over the place and very few ways to buff phys dmg and not much support compared to someone like dilec and keqing. Guess we just hope that Citlatli is a Zhongli powercreep that provides a massive phys shred, energy regeneration and phys buff for the incoming Capitano phys carry so Eula can get some breadcrumbs from his supports and his artefact set. (High on copium)
On the other hand, if sigewinne in her current state was a 4 star, it would make her power level more understandable, but well it is what it is.
They don’t know about macro aloy smh
I respectfully want to stay clueless 🙏
you did NOT make a "beating a dead horse" joke woth Qiqi 💀
my goats finally collabing 😖
I used to use Eula. Her burst was the first to hit 1 million.
Poor Qiqi. The one subpar character I actually Like.
I'm a simple man. I expect Eula in a video, I click.
I'm gonna find your house 😊
I have used Dehya in my recent abyss clears since 5.0 as hyper carry and she clears just fine. Compared to some 5 stars who have a higher rating then her.
What Dehya team do you play out of curiousity
7:06 I dont remember what the geo rework did besides buff the double geo resonance, why did this mechanic stop working?
Anyway, I still like Albedo. His kit seems confusing back then and in hindsight but I think it was just the hoyo devs balancing a character too hard at the time without realizing they did it to a flawed Element that was unpopular. They gave the options to make him a Nuke burster if you go for attack and an offield sub dps with def. Obviously that didnt age well and lacked foresight, but I understand the thought process. They also made zhongli on Release this way but as we know changed it. Albedo mostly got buffs through other means, the geo res core Was good after rework, his damage got better with gorou, Spindel and an artifact set, which still does decent damage to this day if you have it. If you dont have spindle there is now finally a def craftable in natlan.
It is kinda sad he is more of the neglected characters, especially lore wise, but I am used to gacha being loooong so I can sit out the redemption.
HP scaling on the metior and pillers,interruption resistance when using hold version of his skill and a 20% universal resistance shred for every element when his shield is up. tbh as someone who was running his as a shield bot sense he came out the only thing that really mattered was in the interrupt resistance everything else was a nice bonus and didn’t really change him all that much his damage is still pretty low so I never understood the zhongli slander
@@Hibiki_Io His launch was quite literally the shield version of Qiqi. You have to be intentionally obtuse to not realize that, and having a 20% res shred lets him compete with VV holders against most typical 10% all res enemies.
@@sweetillusions5495 a 10% doesn’t really do a whole lot at the end of the day. and people use him for the same thing now as they did back then. the shield. the only thing the update really did was was some QOL that should have been then and increase his personal damage witch still isn’t great at the end of the day. I happy with the zhonglu changes but I’m not gonna sit here and pretend he was this god awful unit some shitty tester made him out to be when they literally said themselves they didn’t test him with HP
@@Hibiki_Io Except he was pretty damn awful on launch and was changed specifically for that reason, as they definitely wouldn't let an archon be bad. A unit being a shield and nothing else is just rather useless unless you manage to be so bad at the game that a shield is necessary to cover your mistakes.
A 20% all res shred is quite a big deal because its an outright 15% final damage boost against 10% res enemies, not too far behind VV set at 25% but applies to the whole team rather than whatever your anemo swirled. Throw in Petra set and he can nearly match Kazuha's buff power only being slightly weaker and more defensively oriented.
@ 1. he wasn’t changed because he was awful he was changed because hoyo stocks got hit from the news coverage and rage.
2. They wouldn’t let a archon be bad? Really? They literally designed mobs in a way to completely kill ventis viability. It was so bad they literally had to go back and nerf mobs all throughout 2.X updates
3. The shield is the main reason people use him to this day res shred or not he would still be used for the shield that was the main thing
I was getting at.
4 Petra doesn’t work the way u think it does unless you’re telling me u pick up crystalize drops with zhogli himself.
I was there when zhogli came out. I had him level 80 day one I’ve seen how his sheild worked out the gate.
People said it was worse than dionas and that’s flat out wrong. these were people trying to max out his damage and not his HP so yes his shield would break
Good meowning Flip nation 😻
We are NOT doing this
@@FliponYT ニャゼ？(=ﾟωﾟ=)
Why Zhongli doin' the Bully Maguire pose in the thumbnail?
Also another thing, I have no clue what makes Dehya better nowadays as I personally don't see any significant changes that makes her suddenly good, she just becomes an alternative enabler or option for the most part but definitely nothing to the point I can say I would slot her into the team. The only teams rn I could reasonably say that she would be pretty good with is Lyney Bennett Dehya comps, Mualani Comps, and an odd HyperBurgeon comp. She still has the weakness of how her skill works meaning its not a replacement for either healer or shielder, nor is her damage output strong enough to consider being good enough.
Enlighten me though cause I explored Dehya to her grave and my rating of her was niche and underwhelming.
I have no doubt in my mind she will be forgotten again after the archon releases, but right now she’s good because she’s not Xiangling… she applies Pyro off-field while not being energy hungry.
Without dendro this wouldnt be the case
Dehya was never a replacement for a healer. She's a shieldless shielder though. So those consecrated beasts will pop everything, even a Zhongli shield, but she'll keep going. It's also skill based. Every other off field pyro unit is burst focused.
She's great for Kinich and Mualani. She's better for Chasca for being one of the squishiest characters around and wanting pyro units while avoiding the struggles of aiming Chasca + spinning Xiangling.
She's not a split scaler, she's a dual scaler. She doesn't force you to build one stat for half her kit to work like Albedo or Xinyan, she just let's you have less dead stats because she uses both atk and hp, and em is always an option.
Why are you downplaying the use of an enabler? Hydro is considered the best element in the game precisely because it enables other elements. She offers slower application for other slower characters. That's why she's good for Mualani. Besides, it's the same timing as Furina's application. The timing isn't the issue; players just hate on her numbers.
If you really want a good "Dehya bis" team, you want Raiden and Chev. It actually makes use of her entire kit and can't slot out for someone like Xiangling, because you want her defensive utility and shorter field time dps period to pair off with Raiden (or Clorinde/Navia for alternatives of 2 short dps teams with Dehya). The flex slot can be anyone from Bennett to the many electro 4*. It's a fairly strong team but also one of the comfiest to boot.
Dehya just got better synergy with other characters than before. And people figured out she decent without trying to shove her into the typical pyro dps niche. She's better than half of the character list if you actually sit down and look at the characters. She's just that flexible of a unit that will grant you a lot of success of you work with her.
wheres cyno
right he suckss
7th
venti never fell off & was always good TRUE (copium)
Definitely! Always the best!
Unless Capitano is the Eula powercreep with modern competitive scalings and Dmg. If we are gonna make another phys support might as well bust out the big guns and have then give phys dmg like 60% DEF ignore or sth like that. If Eula is supposed to stay the sole Phys dps in the game she really could use it. But on the other hand who except eula mains would pull a phys specific support no matter how big their buffs are unless they come after or before new updated phys dps
a good phys support would make all your characters good phys dps, like cloud retainer maing good plunge teams
Love your videos flip but what the actual fuck is Mr Leech talking about?
That winnie giant 💉 should make enemies have slow movement or confused like tighnari skill.
But they decided to make her dps like neuvilette 🎉
About to dislike but then I heard majestic Zhongli and Chiori’s stepping stool slander so I immediately liked and subbed
God I love mr leech’s accent ❤
Why they change zhong li's kit but not with his signature? Are they forget or it's just their law?
before i watch i just want to say that i just got c6 dehya and with mona furina bennett she us one of the strongest carries in the game. and the best part is the team works fine with her only needing c1
albedo was awful at release and still awful, sad bc he was my first limited pull... started in november 2021. if his flower became invincible hed still be mid
not one abyss clip showing the characters discussed is certainly a decision
No abyss footage today cs noone have those units lol. Also they were switching a lot between performance on release and today, more on release what can't really be tested today(imagine building albedo on 1.2 set)
@@ferend4038 defending no effort
i forget how bad dehya c0 is since i never had to play her with it, i got 3 dehyas in 60 pulls and her weapon twice in the same 10 pull
Crazy aura feat
@@FliponYT I'm just dehays biggest fan and she knows
bro where is hydro traveler? they reverse powercreeped the meta
Another Flip banger #Sponored #KingFlip
i'll go inside you because of dehya in thumbnail
Pause? 😭 (Im ready)
The real worst character in Genshin History is the player obviously
Zhongli on release was one of the worst character 😂 so bad that mihyo had to buff him like 2 or 3 times
Is this a safe place to say xiao.....as a xiao haver....
Like hear me out😭
Hes such a high investment character both in team building and character build(lack of f2p weapons for him). Youd ideally need c6 faruzan for him to do decent dmg AND xianyun for dmg increase and healing,while compared to a character like mualani who can js needs pyro on field to clear content. Like dont get me wrong,I rly do love xiao as a character but hes a really expensive character to build and navigate around which is kinda bad choice design imo😭
And doesnt rly help the fact that i kinda find his gameplay clunky as well
Fischl better be on this list
Hating
Yoimiya didn't make it to the list, saved 😎
Another Yoiya W
Why did soul change his name?
Probably to avoid Tectone's deranged fans. Enviosity hasn't posted on UA-cam in like half a year, yet still to this day they continue to harass his comment section.
How about made the 4 star version?
I've forgotten Aloy existed,who the fuck remembers her 😭
FLIP SLANDERING HER GIRL?? Wait...AND FURINA???? 🤨🤨
Noooo
Not slandering my girl eula 😢
She will be in our hearts forever
Seriously hoyo do something For this girl already
Nice video BTW
Don’t lie, Hu Tao was not confirmed until very late
HOW DARE YOU PUT DEHYA IN THE THUMBNAIL I WILL PROCEED TO LEAVE AN ANGRY COMMENT WITHOUT WATCHING THE VIDEO
“Dehya is pretty solid”
Lmaoo
She’s a great Kinich and Burnvape Mualani teammate, both of which are some of their most comfy teams don’t disrespect the goat💢
@@FliponYT I use her more than xiangling 😂
@@MrSquishy0True, I find her way more comfortable to use than xiangling in both my kinich and mualani teams
I got Dehya at C2 and really suprised how universal she is
Why are you banging your lips on your mike flip??????
3:45
Not eula 😢😢😢
I’m sorry but why is Zhongli in the list ? It makes no sense ? doesn’t he provide the strongest sheild in the game?
They were talking about when he first released, yes he had a shield. But literally basically nothing else
At least Eula has no enemies that are immune to her "Element". I am not coping, you are, shut up...
Genshin designs have the worst designs of all hoyoverse games, not only designs even their gameplay and kits, even though genshin dont have powercreep, they made the characters feel worst as a unit like why did they put dehya in standard after her first release? Why not klee, albedo, and eula? They are older units than dehya and even tighnari is way better than them, tighnari should not go to standard, he is too good to put on standard. Genshin devs really dont know how to make a proper unit and just put all to natlan characters. The only powercreep i see in genshin is more likely an exploration powercreep more than how well they are as a dps/support units.
Limited units cannot be moved to standard due to gatcha laws. Tighnari and Dehya were advertised from the beginning as going to switch to standard.
Dehya isn't cracked, but she's a much better character than people give her credit for. She's very flexible of a unit and is a strong yet comfy choice in many teams now.
about dehya, the character itself is not bad, she has a nice design, and she has an interesting (in theory) kit.. her actually kit, on the other hand, is very badly executed.. her damage is lame, and the ult-cancelling jump is the cherry on top of the shit sandwich.. and I'm just using her as a placeholder in my mualani team (dehya c1, xilonen c2r1, mualani c2r1, sigewinne), as her pyro infusion helps mualani a lot.. also, she's a placeholder bc mavuika will take this spot, ofc..
as for sigewinne, she's not bad at all.. she's one of only two healers who heals the entire team with her skill, rather than having to ult, or having to rotate the party to be able to heal everyone.. the other one is baizhu, but he's a garbage character (and heals from half to 2/3 of what sigewinne does).. my melusine is using the sacrificial bow r5, so she can cast her skill twice..
sigewinne worked flawlessly in my hyperbloom team (furina c0r1, raiden, nahida c2r1, sigewinne/kokomi) and in my bloom team (kirara c6, nilou c0r1, nahida c2r1, sigewinne)..
in the hyperbloom, she counters furina's hp drain faster than furina herself can drain it (so, fanfare galore);
in bloom, she heals while the bountiful cores explode like a new year's eve (so my nahida never gets her hp to the red line, like in the video lol);
in my mualani team, she heals, gives a bit of particles, adds to xilonen's samples, AND the cherry on top: she doesn't steal mualani's vapes..
all of this while having from ~22.5k to 45k of healing for each member in the party (my melusine heals ~4.5k for each bounce of the bubble, as it has 5 bounces: 22.5k, or 45k with the sacrificial's reset), while my kokomi have 60k of healing for the character that is active at the moment (my does ~6k per bounce/pulse/spasm of the jellyfish, as it bounces/pulses/spasms 10 times: 60k)..
I do agree her ult is pointless, however, I only use it to gain time during the CD of the team.. so, in the end, it doesn't make a difference..
"but this mualani team, what about other units??" sure,
jean: idk, I don't use;
qiqi: idk, I don't use;
diona: idk, I don't use;
dori: who??
barbara: tested, her ring steals the vape as it touches the enemy while mualani is still marking them;
yaoyao: tested, nice healing, but the element doesn't match xilonen's samples;
sayu: tested, heals ok-ish but doesn't synergize with mualani or xilonen;
kuki: tested, nice damage and healing, but only heals the current character while lowering her own hp in the process;
charlotte: tested, nice healing, and good in furina freeze, but doesn't synergize with mualani;
chevreuse: tested, but she's on my overload team (raiden, clorinde, arlecchino, chevreuse), and her buff makes my c6 chevreuse even better for this.. although she does work in other teams, she was made for overload, so in my overload team she is;
arlecchino: tested, has an amazing damage, but doesn't synergize with any healers, as it'd consume her BoL;
yoimiya: tested, although I love her, she needs to be in my zhongli team, so I pair her with zhongli, yelan and some healer.. here tho, she just keeps getting interrupted..
"but xilonen heals!!" yea, but that's not her role.. furina also heals, but you don't see ppl leaving the singer with an uptime higher than the salon members.. also, I only pulled for xilonen bc of her res shred and, as my is c2r1, she also gives a lot of buffs for the team, which made my mualani's single-hit damage went from 400-600k to 500-850k.. also also, my xilonen has 4.116 DEF, with both skill and ult at lvl9, this means her ult's healing output (176,8% DEF + 1.018) would be around 8.3k per second, in a 12-second duration (tested and confirmed while writing this part).. that's a total of almost 100k, but it only heals the active character.. so, again, gotta be rotating to be able to heal everyone, while sigewinne, I just need to press E, everybody is healed at once, and I can go back to action while the bubble is bouncing..
if I didn't mention anyone, I either indeed forget it, or don't like it (thus, I won't be using, like bennett, xiangling, xingqiu, thoma), or I don't have it (baizhu, childe, ayato)..
"wait, didn't you say you tested baizhu?? how did you test him without having him??" I tested in a friend's account, he is c4 (for some reason) and r2 (even worse), and his healing still is outperformed by my sigewinne c0 with sac. bow r5 (something around 15% worse)..
anyway, thanks for coming to my ted talk..
You know you could replace Sigewinne with Candice and Dehya with XL for better damage and buffing. Replacing Dehya with XL because Deyha can't keep up with Candice. Sigewinne is doing nothing in that team unless you are you are using the Song set which is lower than what Candice offers with less field time. Mind you XL needs at least over 250 er on Fav.
@@robinj4286 I can't 'replace' bc they are in the same team.. the team is dehya, xilonen, mualani, sigewinne..
candace in sigewinne's place would be a healing loss.. and she's not even leveled up, she's 20 bc I don't use her.. also, she has nothing to offer, doesn't heal nor shields.. in this line of thought, my furina would be better.. but then, who heals the entire team at once??
no, sigewinne is using 2p/2p millelith/vourukasha for the +40% hp..
it might've passed under your radar, but I said my xilonen is c2r1.. it wouldn't make any sense removing her signature weapon for a 4*..
and with this team, they kill large enemies between 1 and 2 cycles of dehya's skill, and bosses between 3 and 4, so basically, I don't even ult with them.. meaning, ER is a dead stat.. but if you're interested, their ER is: dehya 140.8%; xilonen 116.2%; mualani 122%; sigewinne 189.5%..
Flip, is it me or wanderer feels a little underwhelming dmg-wise?
He’s good :3 I’m not saying he’s bad at all (I clarify this because the video is about bad characters, but I don’t think wandy is bad). But I’ve noticed that he struggles to deal as much damage as my other DPSs, and I was wondering if it was a me thing or if he doesn’t deal as much as other DPSs
Or maybe his teams aren’t that good at the moment (compared to other characters that have really synergistic teams, like Xiao)
Yk, i've felt the same ever since "finished" building my Wanderer c0r0. As a hypercarry, i understood that his damage heavily depends on having the right supports and investment. But, something i've learned is that Wanderer specifically has a lot of skill expression that can hinder your dps if you dont know about it, like his best combos (changes depending on his attackspeed and weapon), multiwave rotation tricks to have the best uptime with buffs, the use of support vs a shielder, efficiently using the hydro swirl, using the dash effectively, etc. There's also the thing that a lot of his highest damage is locked behind constelations (it sounds obvious but other dps's dont gain as much as Wanderer does with cons) and artifact quality, since he deals the majority of the damage in the teams he's in.
I do think he feels weaker to most recent dps's and teams, but learning a bit more about him might help you get to his max potential :3.
GxG Noir and SevenPls might help you learn a thing or 2 you didnt know or consider, check them out if you're interested
Honestly yes. I do have a C3 Faru which probably skews things but compared to my Mono Hydro, Clorinde, Mualani and hell even my RaiFischl or Lynette plunge teams he feels very lacklustre. And despite the fact he needs a shield to feel comfortable to play his damage suffers a lot from it. Bennet Faruzan Furina seems to give him perfect coverage though so Im not really sure how much stronger he can get from this.
where's qiqi?
Dehya is only "good" if you have kinich or mualani. Otherwise she's still as useless as ever and she's probably gonna get powercrept by Mualani in both of those teams 😂
She's decent bc burning teams exist. Burnmelt/Burnvape are good and Dehya just so happens to provide the most comfort in those teams.
Also how is supposed Mualani to powercreep Dehya XD? You probably mean Mavuika.
@@arigatiu Cope harder 💀
im not gonna watch ther vid but omega based for the thumb
So what exactly makes current Dehya decent?
The appearance of characters, taking advantage of her HP manipulation, specifically Furina
She works really well with mualani and kinich. Mualani can vape all her hits with dehya without dehya needing to build any er. And on kinich as well where she has good pyro aplication for the burning effect to be always up for kinich
Burning and Burnvape/burnmelt teams are really good with her, beacuse her skill can maintain pyro aura without ER, has defensive utility and her negligible damage makes her more flexible with artifact sets and stats.
Low investment Pyro application for characters that can't use Thoma that effectively. She's at least got a use now although still rather few.
No Klee?
Omg hi son, I'm here early :3