Please Stop Losing the Form on the Drums!

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  • Опубліковано 8 січ 2025

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  • @drumqtips
    @drumqtips  3 дні тому +3

    VIDEO TIME STAMPS
    00:00 - My Please to Every Drummer
    00:21 - Playing Intro
    00:27 - Video Introduction
    00:45 - Join my Jazz Drum Set Community!
    01:17 - Lesson Explanation
    01:49 - Let's gooooooo!
    02:02 - Is it YOUR birthday today?
    02:17 - The Lesson
    03:16 - Happy Birthday Song Form
    07:33 - C Jam Blues (blues form, WRONG PDF😔)
    11:05 - Meet the Flinstones (Rhythm Changes form)
    14:42 - Closing RemarQs

  • @tomcarr4630
    @tomcarr4630 3 дні тому +6

    Excellent lesson! I find this takes a lot of practice to become a natural thing to do.We play C Jam Blues on my current gig, so I am looking forward to practicing this more intently!

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому +1

      It takes a lot of dedication for sure, keep at it! So glad you're a part of the Q/munity. Hopefully we get your Zoom sound working ok today. Cheers T 🚗!

  • @mikkovaltonenmusic5058
    @mikkovaltonenmusic5058 День тому

    Great lesson Q!
    My jazz band prof in college would go above and beyond to drill this into people's heads.
    It came in handy on cruise ships, because in our jazz/lounge sets we mostly play off lead sheets and traded 4s a lot.

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому

      That's amazing! All students should have to take a "form" class. That's how important it is.

  • @simonlabrousse
    @simonlabrousse 3 дні тому +2

    I really love these lessons about what to focus on as a drummer while playing in a jazz band. And coming from a professional and experienced drummer, your advices are so valuable, Thank you so much!!

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому +1

      My pleasure Simon! You should come join the Q/munity! It's a supportive group of drummers sharing music, ideas, and having fun Zoom sessions. Check it out: www.skool.com/jazzdrumming/about

  • @markwright5969
    @markwright5969 День тому

    Cracking stuff QD, enjoyed that. 👍🏻🥁

  • @JunkerOnDrums
    @JunkerOnDrums 3 дні тому +4

    Thank you man - I need to work and practice that a lot more. Even though I easily know/feel where 8 and therefore 16 and 32 bars are, I could mess up in the A and B and lose it. Happy New Year! :D

    • @daviewavie112
      @daviewavie112 2 дні тому +2

      Same here. It’s frustrating. One thing I listen out for is the Chord change in the B section. Sometimes people at the jam don’t make it as easy to follow though

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому +1

      I'm with you! Some people don't realize how important that change in tonality is.

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому +1

      We've all be there man! You should come join the Q/munity! It's a supportive group of drummers sharing music, ideas, and having fun Zoom sessions. Check it out: www.skool.com/jazzdrumming/about

  • @半澤剛-p4k
    @半澤剛-p4k День тому

    最高のレッスンありがとうございます😊今年もよろしくお願いします🎉

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому

      いつも見てくれてありがとうございます。こと書も LET'S GOOOOOO!!

  • @shawnbruce6934
    @shawnbruce6934 День тому

    You are such a great teacher Q!

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому

      I appreciate that my man! You should come join the Q/munity! It's a supportive group of drummers sharing music, ideas, and having fun Zoom sessions. Check it out: www.skool.com/jazzdrumming/about

  • @wannabeadrummer
    @wannabeadrummer 2 дні тому

    This advice is priceless, am practicing some tunes and will help massively, cheers Quincy😊

  • @tonybartonemusic
    @tonybartonemusic 3 дні тому +1

    Good lesson. Thank you. Will share with my students.

  • @luigisavoia2401
    @luigisavoia2401 3 дні тому

    Love what you did @5:50 and 6:50. I played in a wedding/dance band. We would have to play 'happy birthday' 3 and 4 times over until the birthday person came up, took bows, and blew out the candles. The last time through I would Billy Cobham it at the end. 😅

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому

      Ha! I would love to hear a Billy Cobham version of happy birthday. LOL!

  • @cjwolfedrums2077
    @cjwolfedrums2077 2 дні тому +1

    Melody, melody, melody💚🥁💜

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому

      And one more time for the people in the back, 'MELODY!' lol

  • @henrytheworst
    @henrytheworst 3 дні тому

    I got the Q jam blues! Keeping the form might be the only reason I’m a fun drummer to play with even though I’m not that good, great lesson

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому

      Much respect for being able to keep the form Oh Henry!

  • @alexk9704
    @alexk9704 2 дні тому

    Great as always Q! I would love to see a video of your mic setup, the drums sound incredible and well balanced

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому

      Thank you Alex! I'm using 2 RODE M5 mics and 1 Shure Beta 52A mic.

  • @StinkerIStheVOID
    @StinkerIStheVOID 2 дні тому

    Hey q, would you consider doing a breakdown of some of the licks/patterns you’re using in the intro (as well as when you’re demonstrating the form and playing more “exotic”textures? I’m particularly interested in some of the “quick actions” you’re using on the snare (drags, fast doubles, single hand buzz) to add interest… that’s something I’ve always had trouble unlocking (or even finding information on). Or if you’ve already done that I’d appreciate a link! You just got a new subscriber, great lesson man!

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому

      I appreciate you hopping on board. I'll consider breaking down the opening licks a little. Cheers my man!

  • @vinsoid8485
    @vinsoid8485 3 дні тому +1

    Great video!

  • @johnnyagisilaoudrums
    @johnnyagisilaoudrums 3 дні тому +4

    yo Q during the blues you got the PDF for the flinstones instead of the C Jam Blues

    • @Gerarddavies1
      @Gerarddavies1 3 дні тому +2

      I was going to mention this to him. Glad you did.

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  3 дні тому +2

      Thanks for point that out Johnny!

  • @dwayneaguiar1148
    @dwayneaguiar1148 День тому +1

    Great video.🥁😎🥁

  • @Manyra15
    @Manyra15 День тому +1

    I lose the form all the time when soloing despite my best efforts. More specifically I lose the melody and have to go back to counting bars in order to stay on track, but then that causes my solo to lose relevance to the tune. For me the issue is more syncopated melodies, specifically monk tunes. I can sing the melody while soloing but that causes me to play to close to the melody. Tunes like billies bounce, Gloria’s step, moose the mooche also give me trouble.

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому +3

      Try focusing on one tune at a time. Spend a week just playing, listening, and singing a tune like Billie's Bounce or other highly syncopated tunes at a slow tempo to deeply internalize it. Once it feels natural, gradually speed it up while experimenting with solo ideas. This will help you lock in the melody and form without overthinking during solos! You can learn anything and get better at anything if you work diligently at it.

    • @Manyra15
      @Manyra15 День тому

      @ thanks Q, I didn’t expect a response but what a nice surprise!

  • @rbrown4431
    @rbrown4431 3 дні тому

    This possibly might have been the best clinic video you've provided, ever. Maybe. But well done and thanks!

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому

      Appreciate that very much Ricky! Great to have you in the Q/munity my man.

  • @Alex-pe6os
    @Alex-pe6os День тому

    Thank you. Very true. It took you about 3 min to get to the point. I m glad you are not a surgeon 😅.

  • @brewstergallery
    @brewstergallery 3 дні тому +1

    Hey Quincy from Ned in Spain and another rolling rollacoaster o rhythm to thank you for. Love all the examples but Meet the Flinstones reminds me of when cartoons used to have some seriously swingin theme songs and some great musicians playing them. Top Cat, Jetsons, Jonny Quest, Space Ghost and Spider-Man. Don't get me started on all the TV themes by greats like Basie, Elmer Bernstein, Lalo Schifrin, Earl Hagen, Jerry Goldsmith... All the best Dr Q

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому

      Nutty! You are totally right. Those themes were all so good and very memorable. Music ain't the same anymore. You should come join the Q/munity! It's a supportive group of drummers sharing music, ideas, and having fun Zoom sessions. Check it out: www.skool.com/jazzdrumming/about. It would be great to have you!

  • @Gerarddavies1
    @Gerarddavies1 3 дні тому +1

    Great lesson Q once again! Drummers lose the form way too much. I think I've been guilty of this a few times...🤣

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  3 дні тому

      We've all been there before GD! lol

  • @vinnyrac
    @vinnyrac 3 дні тому +2

    Q: If you read this comment here's something that messes me up and that's what to play at the end of an 8, 16 or 12 bar phrase WITHOUT LOSING THE TIME! Sometimes I choose to play time right through, but it's those embellishments (or subtle hits) at the end of the phrase that often get me in trouble. I've not only lost the time, but my place in the tune as a result. Got any suggestions? Tx

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому +1

      Great question! Here's a suggestion: start simple. Practice adding small, clear embellishments (like a single snare hit or cymbal crash) at the end of phrases while keeping a steady quarter-note pulse on the hi-hat or ride. This gives you an anchor to stay locked into the time. Gradually experiment with more complex ideas, but always prioritize clarity over complexity. Recording yourself can also help pinpoint where things go off track. Over time, these phrase endings will feel natural and won't disrupt your sense of time or form. Hope that helps!

    • @vinnyrac
      @vinnyrac День тому

      @@drumqtips Thank You Q

  • @dealmommy
    @dealmommy 2 дні тому +1

    So fun and useful - thank you! Any tips for keeping form when the melody is not particularly iconic or memorable and/or you're playing an unfamiliar song (like at a jam session)? :)

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому +1

      Great question! For less memorable or unfamiliar tunes, focus on the form structure rather than the melody. Break it into smaller chunks (like 4- or 8-bar sections) and use harmonic or rhythmic landmarks as guides. Also, try to keep your ideas simple. This is what helps me not lose form on songs I don't know well. Hope that helps! Also, you should come join the Q/munity! It's a supportive group of drummers sharing music, ideas, and having fun Zoom sessions. Check it out: www.skool.com/jazzdrumming/about. It would be great to have you!

  • @fisicobatera
    @fisicobatera 2 дні тому

    Great lesson.

  • @ivanpetrov4206
    @ivanpetrov4206 2 дні тому

    Thanks for a great lesson, Quincy!
    I understand that this is an introductory course with simple examples.
    It is much more difficult to split consciousness into two levels. One half should be autopilot and the other creative. My question is how to balance in this without losing the meaningfulness and logic of the solo and keep the form?

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому

      That's awesome! There should be a class for keeping the form. That's how important it is. Cheers Mikko!

  • @MrLudvigsen
    @MrLudvigsen 3 дні тому

    Thank you🎶🥁

  • @luigisavoia2401
    @luigisavoia2401 3 дні тому

    Hey Q, your Flintstones scat singing is right up there with Ella Fitzgerald. 👍

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому

      Ha! That's VERY kind of you Luigi. Just having a good time. lol

  • @puffinwrangler7557
    @puffinwrangler7557 3 дні тому

    Whoa! what was that coming out at the end of your rhythm changes solo? Wicked, and thanks for the video & inspiration.

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому

      I have no idea. LOL! Just got lucky I guess:)

  • @KaiOwensDrums
    @KaiOwensDrums 3 дні тому

    Great lesson. How do you keep the melody in your head while also trying to be in the moment and react to the other musicians? I find singing the melody to be a little all encompassing for my brain power

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому

      Great question! The key is deeply internalizing the melody so it feels second nature-this way, it’s always in the background without needing your full focus. Instead of singing the whole melody, anchor yourself to key phrases or rhythmic motifs that act as guideposts through the form. Hope that helps KO!

  • @robertomorales6488
    @robertomorales6488 2 дні тому

    Great lesson! Thanks for sharing. How do you deal with interacting with the soloist while you’re singing the melody during the solos?
    Are those drums made of maple or WB?, they sound great!
    Thanks

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому

      Yes those drums are maple. Check the description box for more info about them. Regarding your first question, the key is deeply internalizing the melody so it feels second nature-this way, it’s always in the background without needing your full focus. Instead of singing the whole melody, anchor yourself to key phrases or rhythmic motifs that act as guideposts through the form. Hope that helps Rob!

  • @Aumariii
    @Aumariii 3 дні тому

    Q da 🐐 no 🧢

  • @PeartDisicple481
    @PeartDisicple481 2 години тому

    Form equals function

  • @ChrisHenrick
    @ChrisHenrick День тому

    Hey Quincy I think you're showing a different chart when you're demonstrating the C Jam Blues. Chart title says "3. Meet the Flinstones"

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому +1

      Thanks for catching that Chris! Unfortunately, too late now. It's etched in UA-cam history forever. Lol! Great to have you in the Q/munity btw

    • @ChrisHenrick
      @ChrisHenrick 23 години тому

      Argh! Thanks for having us in the Qmunity, it’s been fun and inspirational so far

  • @Michael127gerard
    @Michael127gerard День тому

    Excuse me if this is a silly question, but say a pianist is soloing, do you sing the form in your head at the same time while listening intently and reacting to their solo ?
    thanks.

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому +1

      Great question! The key is deeply internalizing the melody so it feels second nature-this way, it’s always in the background without needing your full focus. Instead of singing the whole melody, anchor yourself to key phrases or rhythmic motifs that act as guideposts through the form. Hope that helps Mikey!

  • @gastonmunoz142
    @gastonmunoz142 День тому

    Thanks Q, actually it’s my birthday

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому

      HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!! You're the only one who watched this who had a bday apparently😂

  • @paulgilligan372
    @paulgilligan372 2 дні тому

    Does Yoyoka ever lose form on the drums check her out.

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому

      I don't know her. I'll check her out!

  • @johnbonham617
    @johnbonham617 День тому

    I've been playing 30 years, still struggling...

    • @drumqtips
      @drumqtips  День тому +1

      I've been playing for 40 years. Still struggling...:)

  • @paulgilligan372
    @paulgilligan372 21 годину тому

    Hi quincy Yoyoka Japanese drummer Girl now lives in the usa voted top 500 drummer in the world ua-cam.com/video/SfqiglmaCAc/v-deo.htmlsi=aGOdDXXWkCPoZaEe