What a sad thing to see david. Me and my frends went up from the netherlands to belle isle every year for a pike fishing trip. But sinds we know about the pike culling we stayed at home. We can only catch jacks. So sad for such beautifull place to fisch. Keep up the nice vids mate💪👍
I've mates who I served in Afghanistan with who were all Dutch forces they keep on at me to come to Holland to fish with them, after this covid19 shit it sorted I'll definitely get across to Holland even if its for a weekend on the beer to party.
Another masterpiece of actual fishing and of all the struggles that us anglers see but those who make higher decisions don’t see . How anyone can gill net something what has survived thousands and thousands of years should be brought to task . Keep up the fabulous videos and highlighting angling pressures
Same in the Republic. Pike is regarded as vermin and trout killer and the trout lobby is heavily influencing fishing bylaws in Ireland. The research stating that pike predominantly feed on brown trout is from the 60s and 70s. There have been studies done in 2018 in Lough Corrib on the feeding behavior of pike by Inland Fisheries Ireland, that show that they mainly feed on roach, simply because it is what is most abundant in the lakes and rivers nowadays. Similar studies have been done in Scotland and England, providing similar results. Removing the pike does not only create an increase in jack population, but it also increases the population of perch and roach - which again leads to an imbalance.
@@DavidScobie thats it mate feel the same way myself fish control should be left to mother nature big 20s and 30s control the water with these fish eliminated the water run wild with perch and Jack's having the lakes to themselves
I have to give you credit for highlighting and talking about discussions about fishing that are so important and valid bringing awareness to these dark actions of the minority l always say everything happens for a reason that guy pulling them nets out in front of you will bring change in some way or another in the future. People being aware of that still going on now is very important l am aware some people know not all and your channel is a outlet and voice of the people that care about the environment can’t wait until you show that video of the culprits
When I get a copy of the video I'll be showing it even if I have to blur out the guys face. If I name them or identify them then they can say to UA-cam I'm harassing them and UA-cam will cancel my channel.
Love your attitude, everyone else driving down a lane in snow would be snail pace you where full send 😂 another class video you may hurry up and get new ones added as I'm near caught up... top bloke 👍
I,ve just watched the video the whole way through. The last few minutes when you were panning the camera around the lough as the sun went down was a really moving piece of angling journalism. Incredibly sad that this still goes on. Your right, this water could so easily become the jewel in the crown of angling in the north of Ireland. I have a black and white photo from an old guide book of a dead pike hanging from a set of scales taken in the 1960,s. It was netted from one of your favourite spots Scobes. It weighed 45 pounds and you can clearly see its a huge dead pike. Nothing has changed in all those years. Truly sad.
Gav it's heartbreaking mate please feel free to share the video to get the issue out there so more folk know this is happening and it needs to be stopped
Netting North or South should be banned, I really can't believe what you just highlighted it's just so wrong but videos like yours David hopefully will bring a change but I won't hold my breath. Keep up the good work and the content is what keeps me watching as it's real pike fishing.
Nice bit of incar footage from the circuit of Ireland rally 😂, I’m not surprised you’re struggling to catch a pike there though mate with that netting going on, such a shame, that body of water looks massive so it should be able to sustain a lot of different species, some of the biggest/best trout fisheries have some brilliant pike fishing too, they can go hand in hand if managed properly, no need to destroy one species in the hopes it’ll make another better , such a shame 👍👍
@@DavidScobie yeah , they are fun , my Subaru’s were always fun in the snow , the shogun can be if I leave it in rear wheel drive 😁, but nothing is as much fun as a MK2 escort 😁
Hi David, a massive problem. Try and get some facts about the netting operation and the effects of removing the pike ( Apex predators) from the lough. It may be helpful to contact Chew valley fisheries near Bristol. There has been a huge amount of research done there about pike and the effects if any on trout fisheries. I know that the research found that the pike in Chew feed mainly on coarse fish mainly roach, perch and smaller pike ( jacks) and not trout, even stockies .Armed with this information it may be possible to get support and lobby Stormont to either ban or greatly reduce the netting. The chap doing the netting didn't like being filmed, notice how he kept looking in your direction. It's a crap excuse to say that the trout anglers want the pike removed when, the water has other fish eating predators such as birds. Also gill netting does not discriminate between pike or trout, if this netter landed trout in the film wouldn't he be breaking the law? Taking of game fish out of season.
Paul the people who issue licences don't care about facts the net men don't care about the damage they do and the trout anglers pushing for this love it. Dosent matter how much fact or logic we use these types are immune to fact and logic amego.
Alright Dave... that was a hard watch mate n am ragin for you.. it’s staggering that that’s allowed I mean proper staggering n the trout angler in me is ashamed that practice can happen in Ireland. Most fisheries need a head of predatory fish to maintain a healthy system and it’s crazy they think they know better than nature the pike are there for a reason n sure the system was much healthier before anyone started messing with it..! Do want to say I appreciate you showing real fishing not the catch a specimen dream fish every trip.. that’s why I watch like and try comment on every video. Till the next one mate 👍🏻🇬🇧
scobie there is a big reservoir near me that served for decades as a popular trout venue, but for the last 15 years the venue has been abandoned for being unprofitable and forgotten, only owned by a tiny coarse fishing club that I doubt performs any maintenance whatsoever and offers barely any information on it beyond 'pike are present' do these venues make good pike waters?
It has potential to be a very good Pike venue. If there's a decent head of coarse fish in there then it could be a good place. Only one way to find out amego.
£100 for a year isn't bad mate there's Salmon clubs near me that it's £200 for new anglers and that is from April to end of October so it's not even a years angling.
It's a annual thing on the Erne there's legal nets on lower lough Erne from 1 December to 28 February every year to satisfy the trout anglers who demand culls.
I could see you holding ur thoughts bk about netting .. I'm a matchman in england ,I love all fish ,hence I watch your videos mate .. id be livid and absolutely gutted about netting..haye that type of fishing wether it's the river, sea ,lakes etc .. anyway keep trying mate and good luck.. maybe try another peg or venue .. U know best .. thanks for vids ..
It's taken alot of time down south to realise that pike angling provides both a removal of damaged ,small and diseased fish .With ,removal to other areas if need be , but not killing ,as pike angling is also a very lucrative financial provider of fishing tourism .As I have witness the growth in the Midlands of Belgium, French,and English etc fisherman ,coming winter and summers to specifically fish for Pime and Perch.With the odd ferox turning up.Trout fisheries will benefit from these activities not because of the loss of predation. Keep at it
The pike he kills goes to pet foods mate Pike meat goes for literally pennies on the pound its not commercially viable to do this as a business but he's doing it because he says the lough shouldn't have Pike in it as its a Trout fishery. Were dealing with a real smooth brained idiot here.
Always great to see and be on the Erne, I don't think I've seen it snow covered like that, looking forward to getting back out on it again in warmer weather , you're hardier than I for sure. It's about an hour and a half drive for me not including packing and hitching up the boat so I don't get there as often as I'd like to, good to see the videos of the conditions though. It's a pity about the commercial fishing, politics and shortsightedness I think. Anyway, I was interested to hear that you're about to spend quite a lot of money (a couple of grand I think you said) refurbishing your boat? Unless it's a labour of love, wouldn't it be better to invest that dosh in a newer boat? Check out John Flood of Flood Marine just down the road from you in Omagh, he usually has a few decent boats with trailer and engines for not a lot more, I got quite a good deal from him myself. Or Chris McAlinden of McA Boats in Newry, top class fella and a Pike Fisherman as well.
The boat is more a labour of love it's the first boat I've ever owned so I'd like to fix the old girl up and get her back on the lough again. I could do it on the cheap but I'd like to do it up so that when it comes to buying a new one I've got something to use to part fund it buddy.
that same man in the boat has been on Tv programmes regarding the safe guarding of wild life and fishing on the Erne , Also has done talks in local library regarding the same subjects , And if you were chatting him he would come out with the big story of how he loves the erne and was brought up on it , His family present and past have been commercial men all there lives , and think it is part off the heritage to keep at it ..
It's just to get a few trout out the place in turn killing the pike and other aninals that get stuck . Nothing consevationalist about it at all. He's lowering stocks of trout and making huge shouls of roach and bream take over the food source. Look how skinny those trout are.
I was only going under 20mph on the road amego. Thing with snow if you go too slow you just sit there spinning going nowhere so you need to get a bit of speed to push through the snow but not enough that you'd end up in the hedge hahaha
Well done Dave for highlighting this problem. As you say people spend thousands to visit your wonderful Loughs, they wont though if they know all the fish are being netted. I spend well over one thousand pounds on each trip. After these netters spending money on the fuel and time the value of a few poor pike surely wont even cover their costs so why do it ? Professor Barrie Rickards studies proved pike netting actually increases pike biomass. Do the trout men realise this ? Its time for everyone to join the P.A.C. who specialise in pike protection. Its only £ 25.00 to join and they really do get stuff like this sorted. Its just about education really.
Bill you have to take into account that the real knuckle head game anglers are backing culls to them everything other than Trout and Salmon don't deserve to be in the lough that's the attitudes we're up against here. Unfortunately the commercial netter have been doing this for years and getting it stopped requires political change and that's not going to happen. Maddening stuff watching a place you love being destroyed for no good reason.
Dear David, Thank you for your reply, this whole situation is completely bonkers, David, are you in the P.A.C. if not i will still report your valuable filming to the authority covering Ireland, but only if you want me to, I wont do anything unless you are happy for me to do so, or perhaps you already have been in touch with PAC.
Pet food for the most part or ground up and added to cattle feeds. When you weigh up what a Pike to an angler is worth V what some net man gets for it its a vastly different sum of money. Tourists spend millions here to fish net men make pennies on the pound. Time things change.
subbed mate , great video in a gorgeous place . i agree with you totaly on netting it should be banned full stop there wont be any fish left soon the way they are carrying on , take care mate be safe
Hey Tony thanks for the comment buddy glad your enjoying the videos. It's heartbreaking watching somewhere you love being destroyed by greedy people who are only concerned about filling their pockets regardless of how much damage they do to the lough.
I’ve watched the same boat last week doing the same carnage in too different locations in that area and fish to 18 lb plus was put into a blue barrel, f_____g shit thing to watch and legally he’s aloud to do it , so f---g wrong. I share the same thoughts as you Dave on this.
It's maddening stuff he's doing this as a hobby it's not a job to him he does it for a laugh because his family did this years and years ago. My family worked down coal pits dosent mean I break out a shovel and start digging its the same thing.
Driving in the snow is a strange thing go to slow and you end up spinning going nowhere so the trick is get up through the gear box so you have a bit of speed to get down the road nothing to mad. Believe it or not I wasn't going any harder than 20mph.
@@DavidScobie yeah it's always deceiving on video, cold weekend, just the 2 to the net for me from Friday to Sunday but 1 each day so can't complain. Fingers crossed you get one next time, you're not do anything different to anyone else so they will come
Can not believe this is still happening. Them net's will catch any thing that swims into it. Including diving birds and otters. Needs to stop. Sad to see are beloved pass times being killed off
Adds fuel to the anti bragade, game fish are not exempt from the net! This level of stupidity has to be highlighted on as many public platforms as possible. Well done dig guy.
John the agency don't care about coarse anglers mate they have made that clear. And boycotting the lough leaves it open for those who'd cull the system and those like some game anglers who don't want Pike or Coarse Anglers on "their lough".
This is normal fishing mate we don’t catch all the time , my local river here in uk is fishing the same mate can’t get a bite at the moment from the pike
Hi David I have witnessed huge shoals of fish around that particular jetty, many thousand strong, Roach, Bream, Hybrids very few small fish in the shoals, huge huge Roach September October time over the last couple of years, it is a highway for the fish as they move round the lough, they follow that boat channel left and right, always on the move though never stopping, if you have tackle with you, you will catch a few, they come right into the shallows under the jetty, you won't see the bottom for the fish, amazing sight, that whole bay to the left under the jetty and as far as you can see into the water, its after that when you realise, i've just put 10 medium feeders in to feed the swim? Maybe its to much ? Hahaha. Mrs Scott owns the island in front slightly right and the next two bays to the right, both very shallow to. Beautiful spot, where commersial anglers rape the shit out of it, and funnily enough, the Troutmen do think the lough is a trout only lake, remember the dividing line on the old angling maps keeping 2/3 rds of the lough trout only what a laugh eh, if you course or piked it they bitched like hell, demanding you licence no to report you. Anyway Take care Stay safe and keep it lit.👍 my man.
Doing fek all for trout anglers either, restocking genetically pure fish has stopped. More or less one politicians salary was all it cost. Game anglers pay triple in licence and permit fees to fish 2 rods than a coarse angler so getting shafted as well. I catch and release all fish and pisses me off the way the Lough is run. Sewage in town where you coud have caught 100lb coarse fish on a good day , effluent run offs from fields causing algae and weed blooms, 1000's of cormorants eating 2lb+ of fish each every day, Cruisers dumping bags of rubbish as there are no bins at jetties as people bust and burn them etc etc . sigh, time for a whiskey!
Totally disgusting. I hear they had a 30lb pike this time last year. I thought they sold them? Apparently 10 tonnes netted a year. People need to lobby tourism ni and dcal to remove those commercial licences people spend so much money on fishing for these idiots to ruin it.
DCAL not DEARA dont care about coarse anglers mate they see keeping commercial netting as keeping both net men and Trout men happy the Pike anglers can get fucked apparently
Absolutely shocked to see legal netting taking place. Surely this has no place in this day and age, freshwater fish stocks are fragile enough without this crap going on. Often seems to me that many conservationists are only interested in creatures that have feathers or fur (such as bloody otters), fish are out of sight and out of mind. Sickening.
Richard its maddening to see. For 3 months a year its legal to run a the fishery into the ground. And what's worse the rod and line anglers who pay DEARA permits fund it as the net men get cash every year for grants
No need to apologise for real fishing. I'll be 5 sessions in without a nudge but it's being out there that helps. Keep 🎣 and saying here lil fishy fishy 😂🤟
What aload of bollocks David you need a go fund me page to get your own boat on the water maybe with a boat sinking harpoon attached if you ever come to the UK I'd show you some good spots in the lake District that's taken me and my dad years to find good luck on your next trip dude
Yes well there in is the issue amego they believe they do have control over the loughs, they have pushed and been successful in having Pike culled for decades on the Erne. Sad times.
Commercial netting is licensed from start of December to end of February so he's legally allowed to do this. Way I see it whale hunting was legal we hunted them to the point where they were near wiped out. Didn't make it right it's wrong.
Commercial freshwater fishing is an absolutely appalling practice given the sad state our fisheries. Unfortunately it's the same old story with the powers that be in Northern Ireland... money rules whilst our environment suffers. Should be banned! A disgrace 🤬🤬
This is tough the place I learned to fish is just being ruined 😡 I’m so annoyed why can’t this be illegal there protecting there trout they say ha u could bet ur bottom dollar if they caught one they will just hit on the head and bring it home
That's public water controlled by the DEARA governmental body the net man will be licenced to do this for 3 months a year. He will likely be getting every grant going from government to do it. Sick thing is the rod and line angler who pays his licence funds this in a round about way.
What a bronze age view to hold. The eco-system is better off without these counter productive measures. They keep the roach , bream and other fish populations balanced for the trout to thrive. This senseless strangling of fish needs to stop !! What a cowboy way of extermination.
Hi bub, I'd say good vid. But iam speechless. Murdering ##@(£&, but still netted troat. DUM ASH.But the rest of the vid was sound. Do you always drive that fast in snow, or is it because your excited to be going piking. Lol
Very wrong 😑 very wrong 😑 pike keep the small roach numbers down otherwise food that trout eat would be decimated in every environment top apex predators keep the balance always whatever the place in the world how dumb are these people
What aload of bollocks David you need a go fund me page to get your own boat on the water maybe with a boat sinking harpoon attached if you ever come to the UK I'd show you some good spots in the lake District that's taken me and my dad years to find good luck on your next trip dude
What a sad thing to see david. Me and my frends went up from the netherlands to belle isle every year for a pike fishing trip. But sinds we know about the pike culling we stayed at home. We can only catch jacks. So sad for such beautifull place to fisch. Keep up the nice vids mate💪👍
Thanks for the comment Eric it's heartbreaking watching the beautiful place I love being systematically destroyed by greedy people
@@DavidScobie it sure is espaccelly when its your one country. Once i wil be back with my one boat to chase the pike up there.
I've mates who I served in Afghanistan with who were all Dutch forces they keep on at me to come to Holland to fish with them, after this covid19 shit it sorted I'll definitely get across to Holland even if its for a weekend on the beer to party.
Another masterpiece of actual fishing and of all the struggles that us anglers see but those who make higher decisions don’t see . How anyone can gill net something what has survived thousands and thousands of years should be brought to task . Keep up the fabulous videos and highlighting angling pressures
Thanks for the compliment Dusty but your right it's heartbreaking to see this shit in this day and age
Same in the Republic. Pike is regarded as vermin and trout killer and the trout lobby is heavily influencing fishing bylaws in Ireland. The research stating that pike predominantly feed on brown trout is from the 60s and 70s. There have been studies done in 2018 in Lough Corrib on the feeding behavior of pike by Inland Fisheries Ireland, that show that they mainly feed on roach, simply because it is what is most abundant in the lakes and rivers nowadays. Similar studies have been done in Scotland and England, providing similar results.
Removing the pike does not only create an increase in jack population, but it also increases the population of perch and roach - which again leads to an imbalance.
Culling simply dosent work but the lobby who want all Pike dead aren't the sharpist knives in the drawer.
Could be the jewel dave glad your highlighting this fair play fella
It's heartbreaking mate makes me wonder what fishery will be left for me to pass onto my children
@@DavidScobie thats it mate feel the same way myself fish control should be left to mother nature big 20s and 30s control the water with these fish eliminated the water run wild with perch and Jack's having the lakes to themselves
I have to give you credit for highlighting and talking about discussions about fishing that are so important and valid bringing awareness to these dark actions of the minority l always say everything happens for a reason that guy pulling them nets out in front of you will bring change in some way or another in the future. People being aware of that still going on now is very important l am aware some people know not all and your channel is a outlet and voice of the people that care about the environment can’t wait until you show that video of the culprits
When I get a copy of the video I'll be showing it even if I have to blur out the guys face. If I name them or identify them then they can say to UA-cam I'm harassing them and UA-cam will cancel my channel.
@@DavidScobie no way thats madness you would be showing what really going on
Love your attitude, everyone else driving down a lane in snow would be snail pace you where full send 😂 another class video you may hurry up and get new ones added as I'm near caught up... top bloke 👍
I,ve just watched the video the whole way through. The last few minutes when you were panning the camera around the lough as the sun went down was a really moving piece of angling journalism. Incredibly sad that this still goes on. Your right, this water could so easily become the jewel in the crown of angling in the north of Ireland. I have a black and white photo from an old guide book of a dead pike hanging from a set of scales taken in the 1960,s. It was netted from one of your favourite spots Scobes. It weighed 45 pounds and you can clearly see its a huge dead pike. Nothing has changed in all those years. Truly sad.
Gav it's heartbreaking mate please feel free to share the video to get the issue out there so more folk know this is happening and it needs to be stopped
Seen about 6 sets of them nets around them islands in front of you that morning!..God knows how many more are there
Imagine a system with no nets left alone it could be a cracking fishery up there with the best in the world
You asked us to excuse your language - No need to do that when its well justified.
Netting North or South should be banned, I really can't believe what you just highlighted it's just so wrong but videos like yours David hopefully will bring a change but I won't hold my breath. Keep up the good work and the content is what keeps me watching as it's real pike fishing.
Cheers Oliver it's heartbreaking mate it's just disgusting watching the place I love get destroyed by morons.
Nice bit of incar footage from the circuit of Ireland rally 😂, I’m not surprised you’re struggling to catch a pike there though mate with that netting going on, such a shame, that body of water looks massive so it should be able to sustain a lot of different species, some of the biggest/best trout fisheries have some brilliant pike fishing too, they can go hand in hand if managed properly, no need to destroy one species in the hopes it’ll make another better , such a shame 👍👍
I'd love to still have the landrover defender on the go its so much fun driving through snow hahaha
@@DavidScobie yeah , they are fun , my Subaru’s were always fun in the snow , the shogun can be if I leave it in rear wheel drive 😁, but nothing is as much fun as a MK2 escort 😁
Hi David, a massive problem. Try and get some facts about the netting operation and the effects of removing the pike ( Apex predators) from the lough.
It may be helpful to contact Chew valley fisheries near Bristol. There has been a huge amount of research done there about pike and the effects if any on trout fisheries. I know that the research found that the pike in Chew feed mainly on coarse fish mainly roach, perch and smaller pike ( jacks) and not trout, even stockies .Armed with this information it may be possible to get support and lobby Stormont to either ban or greatly reduce the netting.
The chap doing the netting didn't like being filmed, notice how he kept looking in your direction.
It's a crap excuse to say that the trout anglers want the pike removed when, the water has other fish eating predators such as birds.
Also gill netting does not discriminate between pike or trout, if this netter landed trout in the film wouldn't he be breaking the law? Taking of game fish out of season.
Paul the people who issue licences don't care about facts the net men don't care about the damage they do and the trout anglers pushing for this love it.
Dosent matter how much fact or logic we use these types are immune to fact and logic amego.
Alright Dave... that was a hard watch mate n am ragin for you.. it’s staggering that that’s allowed I mean proper staggering n the trout angler in me is ashamed that practice can happen in Ireland.
Most fisheries need a head of predatory fish to maintain a healthy system and it’s crazy they think they know better than nature the pike are there for a reason n sure the system was much healthier before anyone started messing with it..!
Do want to say I appreciate you showing real fishing not the catch a specimen dream fish every trip.. that’s why I watch like and try comment on every video.
Till the next one mate 👍🏻🇬🇧
Cheers John it's fucking heartbreaking mate and it had to stop before there's nothing left to pass onto the next generation
scobie there is a big reservoir near me that served for decades as a popular trout venue, but for the last 15 years the venue has been abandoned for being unprofitable and forgotten, only owned by a tiny coarse fishing club that I doubt performs any maintenance whatsoever and offers barely any information on it beyond 'pike are present' do these venues make good pike waters?
It has potential to be a very good Pike venue.
If there's a decent head of coarse fish in there then it could be a good place.
Only one way to find out amego.
@@DavidScobie good to hear thanks a lot, 100 quid for a year membership :) will cough up the cash in the spring and give it a go next winter
£100 for a year isn't bad mate there's Salmon clubs near me that it's £200 for new anglers and that is from April to end of October so it's not even a years angling.
I have to watch my blood pressure dave but that f..... needs put in that net and f..... in the lough b...... thanks for sharing mate
It's heartbreaking mate
@@DavidScobie i would definitely find out were he puts his nets and every time go out an wreck them mate heart breaking alright
Is it a cull like on the corrib? No commercial value in pike meat.
It's a annual thing on the Erne there's legal nets on lower lough Erne from 1 December to 28 February every year to satisfy the trout anglers who demand culls.
@@DavidScobie Same as the corrib so😢special place in hell reserved for them lads.hunt Sabs should pay him a visit.
I could see you holding ur thoughts bk about netting .. I'm a matchman in england ,I love all fish ,hence I watch your videos mate .. id be livid and absolutely gutted about netting..haye that type of fishing wether it's the river, sea ,lakes etc .. anyway keep trying mate and good luck.. maybe try another peg or venue .. U know best .. thanks for vids ..
Cheers for the comment Anthony.
It's brutal watching a place you love getting ruined for no reason.
It was fishing really there up to the cold weather . Another section fooked !!
One of the many parts of the lower lough that this cancer has spread too
Very hard to fish these days you could go out for the day with ten rods and catch nothing
That's winter fishing amego it's hard everywhere
I'm lucky theres no netting in my local but I'm sure it doesn't make it easier
Wait till next month when the temp rises
Yep yet they expect rod and line anglers to pay licence fees to fund this shit
Well I can only imagine how damaged those
Nets could get when someone gets one on the water.
I cannot encourage anyone to break the law.
Just because it’s illegal doesn’t always make it wrong.
Was that man working for the fishers because you can't do that
I don't know mate who he's working for.
It's taken alot of time down south to realise that pike angling provides both a removal of damaged ,small and diseased fish .With ,removal to other areas if need be , but not killing ,as pike angling is also a very lucrative financial provider of fishing tourism .As I have witness the growth in the Midlands of Belgium, French,and English etc fisherman ,coming winter and summers to specifically fish for Pime and Perch.With the odd ferox turning up.Trout fisheries will benefit from these activities not because of the loss of predation. Keep at it
John it's heartbreaking mate it really is
I'm new to pike fishing, what is he netting for? is he selling the pike to european restaurants or something? I know the french sometimes eat pike.
The pike he kills goes to pet foods mate
Pike meat goes for literally pennies on the pound its not commercially viable to do this as a business but he's doing it because he says the lough shouldn't have Pike in it as its a Trout fishery.
Were dealing with a real smooth brained idiot here.
Hi big stuff your up against it there as gill nets are fkn deadly favourite tool of the fish poachers here . Best of luck an tight lines mate . WATP
Yea I know amego it's grim.
@@DavidScobie sure is mate was shocked to see it as its illegal here .
Always great to see and be on the Erne, I don't think I've seen it snow covered like that, looking forward to getting back out on it again in warmer weather , you're hardier than I for sure. It's about an hour and a half drive for me not including packing and hitching up the boat so I don't get there as often as I'd like to, good to see the videos of the conditions though. It's a pity about the commercial fishing, politics and shortsightedness I think.
Anyway, I was interested to hear that you're about to spend quite a lot of money (a couple of grand I think you said) refurbishing your boat? Unless it's a labour of love, wouldn't it be better to invest that dosh in a newer boat? Check out John Flood of Flood Marine just down the road from you in Omagh, he usually has a few decent boats with trailer and engines for not a lot more, I got quite a good deal from him myself. Or Chris McAlinden of McA Boats in Newry, top class fella and a Pike Fisherman as well.
The boat is more a labour of love it's the first boat I've ever owned so I'd like to fix the old girl up and get her back on the lough again.
I could do it on the cheap but I'd like to do it up so that when it comes to buying a new one I've got something to use to part fund it buddy.
that same man in the boat has been on Tv programmes regarding the safe guarding of wild life and fishing on the Erne , Also has done talks in local library regarding the same subjects , And if you were chatting him he would come out with the big story of how he loves the erne and was brought up on it , His family present and past have been commercial men all there lives , and think it is part off the heritage to keep at it ..
I suspect it is the same man.
It's just to get a few trout out the place in turn killing the pike and other aninals that get stuck . Nothing consevationalist about it at all. He's lowering stocks of trout and making huge shouls of roach and bream take over the food source. Look how skinny those trout are.
Hello David
who controls anglers with nets?
where he left the nets?
Im no Like the no happy
In Northern Ireland it's DEARA in the Republic of Ireland it's Inland Fisheries Ireland who controls net permits.
You should try fishing Lough macnean again that would put you off fishing lower Lough Erne.
I enjoy fishing MacNean
@@DavidScobie Yes it is a very scenic place to fish👍
I wouldn’t bother fishing that system if netting is allowed
Disgusting that it's happening
A lot of food for thought 🎣 P. S enjoyable video. 👍
Good to hear you enjoyed the video Paul thanks for the comment
Holy shit David u were flying down that wee road
I was only going under 20mph on the road amego.
Thing with snow if you go too slow you just sit there spinning going nowhere so you need to get a bit of speed to push through the snow but not enough that you'd end up in the hedge hahaha
It'a all about keeping up the momentum, lose your speed and you lose traction. Great vid yet again and so sad to see the netting going on.
Well done Dave for highlighting this problem. As you say people spend thousands to visit your wonderful Loughs, they wont though if they know all the fish are being netted. I spend well over one thousand pounds on each trip. After these netters spending money on the fuel and time the value of a few poor pike surely wont even cover their costs so why do it ? Professor Barrie Rickards studies proved pike netting actually increases pike biomass. Do the trout men realise this ? Its time for everyone to join the P.A.C. who specialise in pike protection. Its only £ 25.00 to join and they really do get stuff like this sorted. Its just about education really.
Bill you have to take into account that the real knuckle head game anglers are backing culls to them everything other than Trout and Salmon don't deserve to be in the lough that's the attitudes we're up against here.
Unfortunately the commercial netter have been doing this for years and getting it stopped requires political change and that's not going to happen.
Maddening stuff watching a place you love being destroyed for no good reason.
Dear David,
Thank you for your reply, this whole situation is completely bonkers, David, are you in the P.A.C. if not i will still report your valuable filming to the authority covering Ireland, but only if you want me to, I wont do anything unless you are happy for me to do so, or perhaps you already have been in touch with PAC.
Yes mate I'm a PAC member.
What do they do with the pike in the buckets?
I bet they sell them to a market or something . Thats bad news , that stretch could become a world class fishery if left to its own devices.
Pet food for the most part or ground up and added to cattle feeds.
When you weigh up what a Pike to an angler is worth V what some net man gets for it its a vastly different sum of money.
Tourists spend millions here to fish net men make pennies on the pound.
Time things change.
Sad to see David.....especially the pike just being chucked into a bucket.
Yes mate it's heartbreaking stuff.
subbed mate , great video in a gorgeous place . i agree with you totaly on netting it should be banned full stop there wont be any fish left soon the way they are carrying on , take care mate be safe
Hey Tony thanks for the comment buddy glad your enjoying the videos.
It's heartbreaking watching somewhere you love being destroyed by greedy people who are only concerned about filling their pockets regardless of how much damage they do to the lough.
Totally share you views
Cheers Rob
Evening Dave. What can we say hope that arse knows how to swim he's sick. Fishing is tough at the moment I've blanked again. All the best dave
Cheers Paul it's heartbreaking mate it really is
I’ve watched the same boat last week doing the same carnage in too different locations in that area and fish to 18 lb plus was put into a blue barrel, f_____g shit thing to watch and legally he’s aloud to do it , so f---g wrong. I share the same thoughts as you Dave on this.
It's maddening stuff he's doing this as a hobby it's not a job to him he does it for a laugh because his family did this years and years ago.
My family worked down coal pits dosent mean I break out a shovel and start digging its the same thing.
Absolutely disgusting that. You fairly motored it down that road, don't think my Jag would handle it so well lol
Driving in the snow is a strange thing go to slow and you end up spinning going nowhere so the trick is get up through the gear box so you have a bit of speed to get down the road nothing to mad.
Believe it or not I wasn't going any harder than 20mph.
@@DavidScobie yeah it's always deceiving on video, cold weekend, just the 2 to the net for me from Friday to Sunday but 1 each day so can't complain. Fingers crossed you get one next time, you're not do anything different to anyone else so they will come
Can not believe this is still happening. Them net's will catch any thing that swims into it. Including diving birds and otters. Needs to stop. Sad to see are beloved pass times being killed off
Heartbreaking isn't it buddy
Adds fuel to the anti bragade, game fish are not exempt from the net!
This level of stupidity has to be highlighted on as many public platforms as possible.
Well done dig guy.
Thanks for the comment Eddie.
It's fucking heartbreaking knowing this man is out there until the end of February netting away killing everything.
Boycott your licence,or boycott the lake.
People have power but only if they unite.
Then the agency will quickly turn on its heels.
John the agency don't care about coarse anglers mate they have made that clear.
And boycotting the lough leaves it open for those who'd cull the system and those like some game anglers who don't want Pike or Coarse Anglers on "their lough".
I was on the lower lough before Christmas, 3 nets within about half a mile stretch up from the golf resort fucking ridiculous
Yep it's disgusting isn't it.
What a sad time we live in.
Its heartbreaking mate
This is normal fishing mate we don’t catch all the time , my local river here in uk is fishing the same mate can’t get a bite at the moment from the pike
Normal fishing in winter is hard work at the best of times even harder when there's clowns netting on a venue.
Hi David
I have witnessed huge shoals of fish around that particular jetty, many thousand strong, Roach, Bream, Hybrids very few small fish in the shoals, huge huge Roach September October time over the last couple of years, it is a highway for the fish as they move round the lough, they follow that boat channel left and right, always on the move though never stopping, if you have tackle with you, you will catch a few, they come right into the shallows under the jetty, you won't see the bottom for the fish, amazing sight, that whole bay to the left under the jetty and as far as you can see into the water, its after that when you realise, i've just put 10 medium feeders in to feed the swim? Maybe its to much ? Hahaha.
Mrs Scott owns the island in front slightly right and the next two bays to the right, both very shallow to.
Beautiful spot, where commersial anglers rape the shit out of it, and funnily enough, the Troutmen do think the lough is a trout only lake, remember the dividing line on the old angling maps keeping 2/3 rds of the lough trout only what a laugh eh, if you course or piked it they bitched like hell, demanding you licence no to report you.
Anyway Take care Stay safe and keep it lit.👍 my man.
Amego yes some Trout men think all fish except Salmon & Trout are vermin and shouldn't be in the lough.
It's disgusting and heartbreaking.
Your driving like a Foreigner that’s never seen snow
Oh god no I love driving in winter
Doing fek all for trout anglers either, restocking genetically pure fish has stopped. More or less one politicians salary was all it cost. Game anglers pay triple in licence and permit fees to fish 2 rods than a coarse angler so getting shafted as well. I catch and release all fish and pisses me off the way the Lough is run. Sewage in town where you coud have caught 100lb coarse fish on a good day , effluent run offs from fields causing algae and weed blooms, 1000's of cormorants eating 2lb+ of fish each every day, Cruisers dumping bags of rubbish as there are no bins at jetties as people bust and burn them etc etc . sigh, time for a whiskey!
Andy it's heartbreaking mate I love the Erne so watching clowns ruin it breaks my heart.
Totally disgusting. I hear they had a 30lb pike this time last year. I thought they sold them? Apparently 10 tonnes netted a year. People need to lobby tourism ni and dcal to remove those commercial licences people spend so much money on fishing for these idiots to ruin it.
DCAL not DEARA dont care about coarse anglers mate they see keeping commercial netting as keeping both net men and Trout men happy the Pike anglers can get fucked apparently
Good work david.. shame that cretin has got away with that
That's shocking.
Yep it's a sure fire way to ruin a good day fishing
Absolutely shocked to see legal netting taking place.
Surely this has no place in this day and age, freshwater fish stocks are fragile enough without this crap going on.
Often seems to me that many conservationists are only interested in creatures that have feathers or fur (such as bloody otters), fish are out of sight and out of mind.
Sickening.
Richard its maddening to see.
For 3 months a year its legal to run a the fishery into the ground.
And what's worse the rod and line anglers who pay DEARA permits fund it as the net men get cash every year for grants
@@DavidScobie That’s absolutely scandalous David, so sad to see this happening on these beautiful waters.
Hard to watch when its somewhere u spend alot of time and money to fish
Yep its bloody heartbreaking mate
No need to apologise for real fishing. I'll be 5 sessions in without a nudge but it's being out there that helps.
Keep 🎣 and saying here lil fishy fishy 😂🤟
We can only keep grinding away mate in the hope something comes along.
@@DavidScobie that's the Joy's of angling but then seeing dunder head with his net 🤦♂️🤷♂️is just a kick in the swingers
its like a kick
Oh I think the same guy gets off on annoying Pike anglers.
What aload of bollocks David you need a go fund me page to get your own boat on the water maybe with a boat sinking harpoon attached if you ever come to the UK I'd show you some good spots in the lake District that's taken me and my dad years to find good luck on your next trip dude
I'd settle for someone to just remove the nets and destroy them.
same with lough corrib
It's wrong buddy it shouldn't be happening at all.
@@DavidScobie sick of arguing with these clowns but they are so narrow minded its unbelievable,
He did even look at pike he trow it to the end of boat and then look to see if he trout in net cruel and not good for anglers fishing the system,,
It's heartbreaking mate
i hate to see them lads out netting there is a fella doing it from muckross toround kesh is recked
The back lough is fucked you won't see a Pike in there that's all because of net men
Trout anglers do not have the right to control what species gets to live in such a huge water.
Yes well there in is the issue amego they believe they do have control over the loughs, they have pushed and been successful in having Pike culled for decades on the Erne.
Sad times.
How tha fuck is it possible? I am living in South. (Cavan) this is a fucking disgrace! Take care David!
Commercial netting is licensed from start of December to end of February so he's legally allowed to do this.
Way I see it whale hunting was legal we hunted them to the point where they were near wiped out. Didn't make it right it's wrong.
Sad state of affaires and very short sighted. Why do people mess with mother nature. Anyway better luck next time out.
It's heartbreaking mate
Commercial freshwater fishing is an absolutely appalling practice given the sad state our fisheries. Unfortunately it's the same old story with the powers that be in Northern Ireland... money rules whilst our environment suffers. Should be banned! A disgrace 🤬🤬
Agreed Tony it's disgusting to see
This is tough the place I learned to fish is just being ruined 😡 I’m so annoyed why can’t this be illegal there protecting there trout they say ha u could bet ur bottom dollar if they caught one they will just hit on the head and bring it home
Its heartbreaking mate
Thats what he's out there for , to have crates of trout to sell . Lazy bastard fishing the cowboy way . He should just get a rod like the rest.
@@esoxlucius7519 no he’s out there to kill predators pike so they don’t eat the trout
He is catching buckets of trout, how do you know that's just a front to take loads of trout out the water to sell? It's a bit of both i think .
That's a hard watch, disgusted to see this still going on.....................
Yep it's heartbreaking mate
Is that a private stretch someone owns? Who is that guy commanded by? Why would you purposely kill a fish like that? Pike are fish too ffs.
That's public water controlled by the DEARA governmental body the net man will be licenced to do this for 3 months a year.
He will likely be getting every grant going from government to do it.
Sick thing is the rod and line angler who pays his licence funds this in a round about way.
What a bronze age view to hold. The eco-system is better off without these counter productive measures. They keep the roach , bream and other fish populations balanced for the trout to thrive. This senseless strangling of fish needs to stop !! What a cowboy way of extermination.
Joke living in dark ages we prob pay his wages with are rod license
Jonathan we do pay him.
Rod and line licence money gets paid back to these men in the form of grants to maintain boats nets and equipment.
Hi bub, I'd say good vid. But iam speechless. Murdering ##@(£&, but still netted troat. DUM ASH.But the rest of the vid was sound. Do you always drive that fast in snow, or is it because your excited to be going piking. Lol
James I wasn't really going that fast believe it or not I was under 20mph I surprised myself watching it I was thinking jesus it looks fast hahaha
Very wrong 😑 very wrong 😑 pike keep the small roach numbers down otherwise food that trout eat would be decimated in every environment top apex predators keep the balance always whatever the place in the world how dumb are these people
It's one of those throw back to the dark ages the fact it's still happening shows how fucking stupid this country is at times.
What aload of bollocks David you need a go fund me page to get your own boat on the water maybe with a boat sinking harpoon attached if you ever come to the UK I'd show you some good spots in the lake District that's taken me and my dad years to find good luck on your next trip dude
I'd settle for the nets to dissappear mate he can have his boat perhaps take up a different hobby.