The Reason the Pilgrims Came to America
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The Pilgrims started their journey from Plymouth, England, and were blown off course, landing in Plymouth, North America. As if it was a sign from God, the Pilgrims decided not to continue their journey but to settle right where they landed, starting one of the earliest American communities.
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The baby born on the Mayflower was named Oceanus. His father was Stephen Hopkins. Stephen Hopkins was the 13th signer of the Mayflower Compact and the night Samoset spent with the Pilgrims he stayed in Hopkins’ house.
Stephen Hopkins was my 11th great grand father. Thanks.
@@michaelparks5669 he’s my 12th great grandfather. I need to dig through our records. Before my grandmother passed she had compiled a lot of records going back to the time of Charlemagne. I would love to chat more with you because it’s always exciting finding relatives in unexpected ways.
Fun fact,
The Dutch offered the pilgrims food and help several times.
But since the pilgrims fled the Netherlands because of the liberal and progressive mindset and lack of god-fearing faith.
And feared a bill later, since the Dutch put trade above everything.
They kind of hated the Dutch.. so they refused.
Luckily for them the natives offers help as well, and thanked for taking. 😉
Always found that a weird twist in history. Anyway, the Dutch towns in Albany, new York and New Jersey soon became British.
In the transfer the Dutch negotiated so they could keep their language, schools and governing system.
They kept most of them, but all trading company ownings had the be given to the British. As a thank you the Dutch set all the slaves free in new Amsterdam so the British wouldn't get free slaves but free slaves. 😅
Thank you! This should be taught in every school in N.A.!
It is.
The baby who was born at sea was called Oceanus.
*gets persecuted then continues to persecute other people.
Where did you find they persecuted other people? Comprehension skills are lacking today. SMH Even a century before the pilgrims arrived in America; different English, French, and Spanish explorers would show up and kidnap people for slavery, spread disease, etc. The pilgrims were not the first people (even "white" people) in that area. They were some of the first groups of separatists (AKA white people not willing to suckle the English tit to sacrifice their values).
In the 1500s is the first recorded war with natives and it was the Spanish. In 1622 some of the Powhatan tribe massacred hundreds of English settlers for encroaching on their land. The English having been there because they were looking for peace and promised the land by people that did not rightfully own it. Though in similar cases there are records of English and Spanish purchasing land from natives only to have the natives later regret it (likely due to seeing the way the English treated the land but also perhaps they simply wanted it back!) Unfortunately this is where people think the racist phrase "Indian giver" comes from. When you give someone a gift but then you say they need to give it back to you. Many think it was something lost in translation. English thought the natives meant actual "gift" and natives meant "loan". Regardless the natives knew how to work the land and how to survive the conditions much better obviously. So the English were starving during winter and fearful of hunting because many of the natives would take the opportunity to attack them while they were weakened.
This is how the majority of the earliest wars started between the natives and colonists. Not to mention that the colonists were often offered help and allegiance against other Europeans as well as other native tribes. Since most native tribes were known to war with each other as well. As is how it goes with most civilizations.
Ironically it seems the more the English were involved "down the road" is what caused the worst of it. English folk with money that came to America TO expand and TO profit; not simply to practice religion freely as the earliest English-bred colonists did (that did NOT have a ton of money and opportunity but were trying to flee persecution).
So NO the people whom had been persecuted were not usually the ones doing the persecuting. Though that does happen in human nature many times. (If a child is abused they might grow up to be the same way if that's all they know/what they adapted to for survival). But human history is riddled with similar. The earliest recorded mass genocide is between tribes in Africa.
What I learned from this video in particular is how much the French are behind many of the unfair woes of the natives as well as the English trying to not be English anymore. LOL I already knew the Spanish were a very cruel and imperialistic people, or to be fair...just more successful at this at the time.
So the idea of America being based on freedom, the Christian God, hard work and diversity etc is a nice notion and I see where it derives from...It makes more sense considering how often the natives and English/Dutch etc worked together early on...then having the American Revolution against the English trying to impose taxes without representation etc. (Bullying colonies to empty their pockets to the point of starvation). Then there was even the French Indian war in 1754. Dang frogs! (jk..)
The wealthiest of the colonists being the ones to form the constitution etc. I think because there were less people as a whole, and people knew each other better and expected accountability; perhaps the influence of the less wealthy was greater. Though as such...an example being George Washington I believe was only second generation of American compared to the pilgrims and such that had several more generations having lived on the land. His family was directly from England and Norway. He also was part of the Church of England (the opposite of those pilgrims remember....the church they were escaping persecution from...) . Perhaps it even explains why the Quakers were killed and treated like witches; when they did not fall in line with the puritans and other Anglicans (like George was). The power still was primarily in the hands of the most wealthy. Not just whites peoples.
It explains why only certain groups of people would actually persecute and agree with persecution and removal of natives from their lands and the destruction of the tribes. They were wealthy selfish people paying for help to get their way and/or manipulating ignorant and desperate people to support their cause. Besides the addition of if they had family that had been peaceful and told they could live there only to be attacked by natives without warning. There were some natives early on that did attend the same universities as wealthy white folk did, and held degrees. It was likely as common as a white woman to be real if not more likely.
I'm glad the natives were able to recognize that there are different kinds of white people. Just as there are different varieties of tribes and individuals within each tribe and every family. There were violent and hateful whites as well as natives. In every culture and group there is a variety.
They claim persecution. This was a bunch of religous zelots.
Who were/are they persecuting? Why do you feel persecuted?
Those are Protestants for you. Not much difference from Catholics when it comes to wanting state power, even today, look at all the “Christian” nationalists. Now it’s a mix of Protestants and Catholics. The only Christians who were persecuted but didn’t thereafter persecute others were the groups of Christians throughout history and through the dark ages such as the patarenes, paulicians, Donatists, notations, montantists, Waldenses, Albigenses, henricians, Arnoldists, the Welsh baptists, anabaptists, etc.
@@itskeagan3004 r u new to the world?
So after dinner we are supposed to wipe out everyone different from us and steal their stuff?
Hello from Plymouth Ma.
The Pilgrims (Puritans) were staunch 5 Point Calvinists who wanted to escape the persecution of the Church of England, which was solidly Arminian. That is what started this whole thing rolling. The United States of America was the result of Calvinists wanting freedom of worship and freedom from persecution by Arminians.
Arminians=responsibility of free will unto entire Sanctification.....Calvinists 5 point tulip= everything is trumped by Sovereignty of God......John Calvin used his influence to burn a man to death for not recanting offering him freedom FROM THE FLAMES... showing that he (john Calvin) was indeed responsible for his execution.....read gospel of John 16 verses 1 and 2 re: condemnation of this murderous act.......the fake Arminians also share this fate.....true Arminians do not believe in church and state or killing others
It may be unfair to place the entire blame on Calvin for the execution of Servetus. Whatever the case, it does not diminish the sovereignty of God taught in scripture.
Too pure.
@@johndodge212
where did the pilgrims begin their first journey to north America?
Its my understanding their brand of religion was too extreme for England and Europe. Kinda says it all....(Christian extremism)
What is the most in accurate stories in American history. It didn’t at all happen the way the narrator explain.
This is just the beginning- what followed in the next decade to the natives was a tragedy
Where can I find the truth?
@@itskeagan3004 You find the truth in Jesus. But about history, you try to see different sides to get a fuller picture. The winners, losers, and other sides all have a viewpoint and it is really hard to know the real truth this far out but we can find other accounts of the same time period buried in books, videos, artifacts and hopefully the reader can see a fuller picture
@letter203ify unless Jesus has a history book I don't think he will help much in this situation bless your heart
I've taken the Liberty to copy and paste the actual Mayflower compact as well as it's signatories below. Please enjoy.
IN THE NAME OF GOD, AMEN. We, whose names are underwritten, the Loyal Subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God, of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, King, Defender of the Faith, &c. Having undertaken for the Glory of God, and Advancement of the Christian Faith, and the Honour of our King and Country, a Voyage to plant the first Colony in the northern Parts of Virginia; Do by these Presents, solemnly and mutually, in the Presence of God and one another, covenant and combine ourselves together into a civil Body Politick, for our better Ordering and Preservation, and Furtherance of the Ends aforesaid: And by Virtue hereof do enact, constitute, and frame, such just and equal Laws, Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions, and Officers, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general Good of the Colony; unto which we promise all due Submission and Obedience.
IN WITNESS whereof we have hereunto subscribed our names at Cape-Cod the eleventh of November, in the Reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France, and Ireland, the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth, Anno Domini; 1620.or
John Carver
William Bradford
Edward Winslow
William Brewster
Isaac Allerton
Myles Standish
John Alden
John Turner
Francis Eaton
James Chilton
John Craxton
John Billington
Moses Fletcher
John Goodman
Samuel Fuller
Christopher Martin
William Mullins
William White
Richard Warren
John Howland
Stephen Hopkins
Digery Priest
Thomas Williams
Gilbert Winslow
Edmund Margesson
Peter Brown
Richard Britteridge
George Soule
Edward Tilly
John Tilly
Francis Cooke
Thomas Rogers
Thomas Tinker
John Ridgdale
Edward Fuller
Richard Clark
Richard Gardiner
Mr. John Allerton
Thomas English
Edward Doten
Edward Liester
Starting at 9:42, it's a little misleading to say "The Puritans came not long after the Pilgrims." The Pilgrims are generally considered to be Puritans besides their separatist viewpoint when it came to the Church of England. To make an analogy, the Separatists and the more moderate Puritans that starting coming over in 1630 with John Winthrop saw each other like two different political parties but of the same people vs. The Quakers, who were also from England but held a different stance on how to practice Christianity. I understand the academic distinction between "Pilgrims" and "Puritans" in order to study how they differed but overemphasis of that difference undermines their overwhelming commonality.
Speaking of Quakers, who were persecuted, jailed and tortured at the hands of the Puritan government in Massachusetts (I won't say Puritans as a whole because there is evidence that there was a split attitude amongst Puritans in regards to this treatment of Quakers), I understand not getting into it within this video but to follow up their brief mention with talk of the Pilgrim/Puritan values of "freedom, free choice, community" is wildly misleading.
Puritans believed in religious freedom...for themselves. Free choice? Not sure there's anything that supports that at all. Within their own society, Puritans had very strict codes of conduct/moral standards and even then they often disagreed with each other, with individual villages and congregations having a sense of moral superiority over others. Free choice couldn't be further from a Puritan ideal.
And community? I would speculate that any group of people thrown together within the context of "work together or literally pass away" like those first few years in Plymouth would probably establish some sense of community. But let's not forget that the Puritans always saw the indigenous tribes they came in contact with as inferior beings and did not hesitate to push them out of their "unutilized" land the second they had the manpower to do so.
There's a detrimental lack of nuance in this video.
What happened to the Spartans video? 🙁
Someone said that we came here for a democracy
I'm not even sure what democracy is supposed to be
The Pilgrims brought pigs to eat. I guess that they didn’t know how to farm.
Hebrew 11:13
Absolutely
yes
God told Abraham in1 5::13-14 then see Hebrew 11:13
Because we were fed up with their shit.
Wow...
To all the kids complaining in the comment section about how people from over 500 years conducted their lives....a, shut it. The world was differnt then. Cant change it cuz band wagon trendy todays feelings garbage and b, walk a mile in their shoes and go start your own colony on an island without modern help and see how far you get. My money is one hour before you cry for your mommy.
Abe Lincoln and Donald Trump's Party
Fucking 6th in the comments I am a GOOOOOODDDD!!!
6:43 , a site that would never ever occurred at all during those times and very very rarely during these times
Fifth and sixth times to reply at least I had something to say
WASPs