Great little review of a great, little module! :) My feelings about the FM are very much in line with yours. It's a fantastic start - I hope they will put in the effort to really flesh it out. It's got a ton of potential. Thanks for the intro on how to employ ordinance on this thing with precision! My mate and I were dropping from 20-30 deg dives and were finding it hard to hit anything. We'll try again with your method! Cheers :)
I'm curious to see how the real deal pilots did it in the day with this plane. Of course this module may not be accurately modeled in this regard but maybe that's what they had to do in the real plane, steep dives.
I don't know if DCS includes this already but to have comms with the grunts your running CAS for would be awesome. In something like ARMA that would be the best part of it for me, working in sync with the guys on the ground providing recon and CAS as requested. It would also be very cool to coordinate with the fast movers marking targets and maybe providing some BDA/FAC work after they do their part. Great review and flying Sidekick.
Yeah that'd be awesome. AFAIK Combined Arms lets you do that in multiplayer, but the mission designer has to explicitly create the JTAC and/or commander roles for that side when programming their big CAS adventure. I'd love to have an update to the way ground forces operate that allows you to have dynamically generated JTAC interactions in singer player or all-air multiplayer as well (plus we've just long needed an overhaul of the ground force mechanics in general-I can't wait til infantry is more than just decoration to make it look like there are people in your mission).
It looks like a module made just for you, Sidekick. Coincidentally, I happen to be reading a book about a USAF OV-10 pilot's experience working the Ho Chi Minh trail during the Vietnam war. This is almost the perfect plane for that job. I say almost because it lacked one really crucial thing for someone who is going to spend large amounts of time in the air over South East Asia: air conditioning. According to the author of the book I'm reading ("Da Nang Diary" by Tom Yarborough) it was common for Bronco pilots to lose three pounds during a mission. Exciting times!
I am reading the same book. Brutal. Trying to figure out how to recreate those missions in DCS. Oh look! We'll need F-100s (coming) F-4s (coming) AND A-1s ( yes! Coming). Now all we need us a flyable AH-1 and... wait... oh yeah, a map of Viet-frigging-nam.
Another book starring the Bronco I can highly recommend: "A lonely kind of war" by Marshall Harrison. As I have read the "Da Nang Diary" as well, I must say that those two books put the Bronco on the list of my many favourite combat aircraft. Oh, and the pilots who flew them in 'Nam where absolutely nuts!
It's also worth pointing out that aircraft like the Bronco are far simpler than other aircraft in DCS, which makes development easier. The mod is fantastically done, don't get me wrong, but I think the devs should refine the mod to full fidelity, and release as a paid module as part of the new Vietnam lineup.
This is a great addition to my stable. Not yet up to A-4 standards, but happy happy with what it is so far. One thing I need it to have is radio comms to communicate with the fast movers.
I did nor know that. I was more musing on the fact for a relatively high high wing with a high aspect ration it doesn't show much adverse yaw. It does need much rudder to stay coordinated.
I'm curious if there is, or will be, an O-1 or O-2 in DCS. You could say the O-2 was sort of the sister to the OV-10 with it's similar design. There certainly appears to be a great deal of interest and work going into Vietnam era aircraft in DCS. I have yet to hear of an actual map of it though. Of course there is a variety of terrain to model and they could opt to just focus on either mountainous or the flat coastal areas. These planes saw use in both environments. BTW, the Bronco was also used quite a bit by the Navy to support SEAL teams, mostly in the delta. I wasn't aware the USAF used it though. I thought they just had the O-1 and O-2's for this role.
Hey Happy New Years Ian, been while, I just saw this video and that plane is cool have they updated it any from 2 years ago, also that mission training mission is it available on your discord?
Flight model seems a little too clean and easy, although I'm not a pilot so obviously I've never been in an OV-10, just based on other stuff in DCS. However, the dev did such a good job right out of the gate that I'm optimistic that we'll see some improvements.
How did you get the thrust reverse to work? I engaged it and held it engaged while adding power like I do in the Viggen, but it didn't seem to take affect.
I have it two ways on two different rigs. On one it is bound to the rear boat switch position on a TM throttle. Whenever the boat switch is back, it's in reverse. On my other rig I have a winwing throttle. It treats the rear detente positions of the throttles as a button. I use the left throttle as the RPM control and when I pull it fully to the rear its in reverse.
@@Sidekick65 I took the same approach with my TM throttle. Everything indicates the props are in reverse but I’m not getting any braking power out of them.
As a former OV-10 crew chief, I have some problems with this video. First off, the Bronco does in-fact have nose wheel steering, there is a button for on-demand hyd steering controlled by the rudder pedals. Secondly you can't turn the generator on because as soon as the power to the starter circuit stops, the engine spins up while the starter is still connected which forces the starter to become the generator. It's automatic. One unit,conspicuously called a "Starter/Generator" Third, the propellers can't go into forward until the T-76's are revved up and the props put into reverse to release the pitch locks. Fourth I'm skeptical about the prop condition lever having anything to do with fuel flow. TBH I can't recall... (it's been 45 years) If there are any 431X1F or 432's or prop guys out there please chime in.
Thanks for all the great info. I'll look forward to your videos on the subject. Let me know if you would like some help making them. Maybe you should talk to the developers. I'm sure they could use someone with all your knowledge to correct these discrepancies. Please do let us know when they have been corrected.
@Sidekick65 I shouldn't have been so overly critical in retrospect, I'm just an old fart that got kinda thrilled seeing this simulator and I must say it looks 100%!
No worries. I'm actually quite serious that the developers would probably welcome input from someone with your level of knowledge. You should drop by their Discord and offer to help.
I downloaded this Mod and put it in the user/saved game/mods, but it doesnt show up on anything than creat a quick mission but when finished loading the dcs screen goes back to the windows screen.
@@toddw6716 I have no idea what I did wrong the first time, but I reinstalled it and it's working. It's really impressive for a free airplane. I tend to be really picky about these free mods. I've only kept the A4E and T45 so far. But this is a keeper.
I'm having a strange bug, installed the mod and I get both the OV-10 cockpit and the Su-27 cockpit overlapping one another. Two sticks, two throttles etc. Flies fine but looks weird
Always exciting to get to eat breakfast alongside a Sidekick video!
Glad to be providing spiritual nourishment!
Great little review of a great, little module! :) My feelings about the FM are very much in line with yours. It's a fantastic start - I hope they will put in the effort to really flesh it out. It's got a ton of potential.
Thanks for the intro on how to employ ordinance on this thing with precision! My mate and I were dropping from 20-30 deg dives and were finding it hard to hit anything. We'll try again with your method!
Cheers :)
Let me know how it goes. If you find another set of dive parameters that work drop by the Discord and discuss!
I'm curious to see how the real deal pilots did it in the day with this plane. Of course this module may not be accurately modeled in this regard but maybe that's what they had to do in the real plane, steep dives.
I don't know if DCS includes this already but to have comms with the grunts your running CAS for would be awesome. In something like ARMA that would be the best part of it for me, working in sync with the guys on the ground providing recon and CAS as requested. It would also be very cool to coordinate with the fast movers marking targets and maybe providing some BDA/FAC work after they do their part. Great review and flying Sidekick.
Yeah that'd be awesome. AFAIK Combined Arms lets you do that in multiplayer, but the mission designer has to explicitly create the JTAC and/or commander roles for that side when programming their big CAS adventure. I'd love to have an update to the way ground forces operate that allows you to have dynamically generated JTAC interactions in singer player or all-air multiplayer as well (plus we've just long needed an overhaul of the ground force mechanics in general-I can't wait til infantry is more than just decoration to make it look like there are people in your mission).
It looks like a module made just for you, Sidekick. Coincidentally, I happen to be reading a book about a USAF OV-10 pilot's experience working the Ho Chi Minh trail during the Vietnam war. This is almost the perfect plane for that job. I say almost because it lacked one really crucial thing for someone who is going to spend large amounts of time in the air over South East Asia: air conditioning. According to the author of the book I'm reading ("Da Nang Diary" by Tom Yarborough) it was common for Bronco pilots to lose three pounds during a mission. Exciting times!
I am reading the same book. Brutal. Trying to figure out how to recreate those missions in DCS. Oh look! We'll need F-100s (coming) F-4s (coming) AND A-1s ( yes! Coming). Now all we need us a flyable AH-1 and... wait... oh yeah, a map of Viet-frigging-nam.
Another book starring the Bronco I can highly recommend: "A lonely kind of war" by Marshall Harrison.
As I have read the "Da Nang Diary" as well, I must say that those two books put the Bronco on the list of my many favourite combat aircraft.
Oh, and the pilots who flew them in 'Nam where absolutely nuts!
Concur. I have read both!
You make this game look so professional and real.
Thanks, I appreciate the compliment.
Enjoying your videos and your chill presentation. Definetly earned my sub
Thank you so much. Drop by the Discord and let me know if there is anything else you'd like to see.
I feel like this will be one of the best mods, on par with the A4E after some more development
It's looking good right now.
It's also worth pointing out that aircraft like the Bronco are far simpler than other aircraft in DCS, which makes development easier. The mod is fantastically done, don't get me wrong, but I think the devs should refine the mod to full fidelity, and release as a paid module as part of the new Vietnam lineup.
and t45
Nice video, i think im going to check this Bronco out and the mission, thanks for highlighting it.
Glad you enjoyed. Enjoy the Bronco.
This is a great addition to my stable. Not yet up to A-4 standards, but happy happy with what it is so far. One thing I need it to have is radio comms to communicate with the fast movers.
Agreed. It will be great when that comes along
Most Excellent presentation. Outstanding and informative. Thank you for the hard work. 👍
Thanks for the flight, I learned a lot. Glad I found your channel.
You're welcome! I'm glad you did too, then! :-)
Great review and commentary on this classic Vietnam War aircraft.
about the lack of rudder requirement, as I believe, the engines are counter rotating to limit/ eliminate the torque
I did nor know that. I was more musing on the fact for a relatively high high wing with a high aspect ration it doesn't show much adverse yaw. It does need much rudder to stay coordinated.
I was eagerly waiting for your review. Next one: Bronco in the range.
Thanks glad you enjoyed it!
Can't wait for the MK4 pod.
Definitely been waiting for this one!
Hope you are enjoying it
Nice vid as always. Landing a solid 5 on ooooofometer. 😅
I'm curious if there is, or will be, an O-1 or O-2 in DCS. You could say the O-2 was sort of the sister to the OV-10 with it's similar design. There certainly appears to be a great deal of interest and work going into Vietnam era aircraft in DCS. I have yet to hear of an actual map of it though. Of course there is a variety of terrain to model and they could opt to just focus on either mountainous or the flat coastal areas. These planes saw use in both environments.
BTW, the Bronco was also used quite a bit by the Navy to support SEAL teams, mostly in the delta. I wasn't aware the USAF used it though. I thought they just had the O-1 and O-2's for this role.
Hey Happy New Years Ian, been while, I just saw this video and that plane is cool have they updated it any from 2 years ago, also that mission training mission is it available on your discord?
Pretty cool plane sir. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻👍🏻🙃🙃
My pleasure. Enjoy! Apparently several Aussie's flew them in Vietnam.
Looks like an interesting mod. Will have to give it a go some time.
Could be great for COIN stuff.
Definitely. Check out the mission on my Discord of you want to have a quick go at a COIN
@@Sidekick65 thanks, I'll check it out when I get a chance. 👍
Now you can recreate the dogfight against a viper during the 1992 coups in Venezuela
Flight model seems a little too clean and easy, although I'm not a pilot so obviously I've never been in an OV-10, just based on other stuff in DCS. However, the dev did such a good job right out of the gate that I'm optimistic that we'll see some improvements.
Agreed. It has a lot of potential!
Mr.Iain Christie where can I download the OV-10 Bronco mod if it is already available ? Thank you for your kind reply.
There is a link to the Split Air Discord in the description. You should be able to find it there.
@@Sidekick65 thank you !
How did you get the thrust reverse to work? I engaged it and held it engaged while adding power like I do in the Viggen, but it didn't seem to take affect.
I have it two ways on two different rigs. On one it is bound to the rear boat switch position on a TM throttle. Whenever the boat switch is back, it's in reverse. On my other rig I have a winwing throttle. It treats the rear detente positions of the throttles as a button. I use the left throttle as the RPM control and when I pull it fully to the rear its in reverse.
@@Sidekick65 I took the same approach with my TM throttle. Everything indicates the props are in reverse but I’m not getting any braking power out of them.
Great vid! What miz are you flying with the targeting scoring system?
It's my Caucasus Iron Bombing Test Range with TITS. You can get it on my Discord.
Now time to Bob Hoover that bronco
As a former OV-10 crew chief, I have some problems with this video.
First off, the Bronco does in-fact have nose wheel steering, there is a button for on-demand hyd steering controlled by the rudder pedals.
Secondly you can't turn the generator on because as soon as the power to the starter circuit stops, the engine spins up while the starter is still connected which forces the starter to become the generator. It's automatic. One unit,conspicuously called a "Starter/Generator"
Third, the propellers can't go into forward until the T-76's are revved up and the props put into reverse to release the pitch locks.
Fourth I'm skeptical about the prop condition lever having anything to do with fuel flow. TBH I can't recall... (it's been 45 years)
If there are any 431X1F or 432's or prop guys out there please chime in.
Thanks for all the great info. I'll look forward to your videos on the subject. Let me know if you would like some help making them. Maybe you should talk to the developers. I'm sure they could use someone with all your knowledge to correct these discrepancies. Please do let us know when they have been corrected.
@Sidekick65 I shouldn't have been so overly critical in retrospect, I'm just an old fart that got kinda thrilled seeing this simulator and I must say it looks 100%!
No worries. I'm actually quite serious that the developers would probably welcome input from someone with your level of knowledge. You should drop by their Discord and offer to help.
@@Sidekick65 Thank you. I'll check into it.
Did you have a mission called Tucanos at dawn? I would like to download it please and thank you.
You can find it on my Discord Server in the A-29 Missions section.
@@Sidekick65 I looked and didn't see it but I will look again...thanks
@@mando7558 My Bad, it's called "Wake Up Call". I must have renamed it at some point before I released it.
@@Sidekick65 Thanks I will get back on and snag it. Looking forward to flying it. Thanks for the hard work and great content
would be great to get the MWARI SMART, the spiritual successor :)
I downloaded this Mod and put it in the user/saved game/mods, but it doesnt show up on anything than creat a quick mission but when finished loading the dcs screen goes back to the windows screen.
Not sure I can be of much help. The Split Air Discord is your best bet. Good luck!
I downloaded this, but can't get it working. It's in the menu., but I have no plane. Does it go in the mods folder like other aircraft?
same here
@@toddw6716 I have no idea what I did wrong the first time, but I reinstalled it and it's working. It's really impressive for a free airplane. I tend to be really picky about these free mods. I've only kept the A4E and T45 so far. But this is a keeper.
Thanks 👍👍👍
You're welcome
I'm having a strange bug, installed the mod and I get both the OV-10 cockpit and the Su-27 cockpit overlapping one another. Two sticks, two throttles etc. Flies fine but looks weird
You probably have the FC3 clickable cockpit mod installed. Apparently it needs to be updated- or removed.
You try out the new update on this MOD yet?
I have not. I should do that
Nicely done !!
Thanks!
May I please have this bombing range mission with script?
Drop by my Discord channel you find it there.
@@Sidekick65 Outstanding thank you
You know GS is gonna dogfight it.