No oil pressure! | Engine trash? would you repair it?| Peugeot 207 KFU (ET3J4) PSA
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- I don't know what to make of this video, but I strongly advised that the owner soled the car. But nope, so there will be a part 2. What to do, what to do...
But it almost the same if not the shame on the cars listed below. Always check your torque specs for your car!
PARTS USED:
Oil filter Mahle OX339/2D
Oil pressure sensor Hella 6ZL009600-041
The engine has been used in many PSA cars.
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I had a peougeot 206 8 valve 1100 2002 my oil warning light came on it was a sluge problem before I replaced any parts I flushed the engine with a 75/25 mix of petrol and engine oil 75 percent oil 25 percent petrol and ran the car for 30 mins then changed the filthy smelly oil which was awful got this out and did the same again this time the oil was a lot cleaner then added clean engine oil and new oil filter the oil warning light was gone for good! petrol is not good on engine seals I took the chance should have tried engine flush but I had nothing to lose the car had had it up to then but I had no oil leaks and solved the problem and no problems for 2 years driving after that then sold it a lot of older cars get clogged up always maintain your car and change the oil regular as recommended by the manufacturer save you having the problem I had happy motoring 😊🤔💯👍
This problem have easy solution. The solution is set in motion and clean the valve in the oil filter bowl (6:50). I have C4 2006 120000kms with this engine and this problem appeared although the oil was changing every year (for 17 years is 7000kms average) and ONLY used the manufacturer prescribed Total quartz 9000 5W40. This is typical problem of this engine, but not dangerous. 8V engines (KFW) can have same problem too. Older TU engines (KDX,KFX etc), which are technically almost same as KFU and KFW, have not this problem, cause oil filter is mounted straight into the block and this valve is not there. I also have old ZX break with 1.4 KDX 240000kms and engine still running as new...
hi dude, I have same car, 2005, with 338.000 Kms!!! If you respect it, you are fine looong way.
That's the case with most things. But some things need just a bit more care than others, and because of that, they get the stamp "unreliable". What of course isn't completely fair.
What do you mean by telling to "clean the valve in the oil filter bowl"? I changed the oil pump and the whole oil filter housing and the low pressure sign is still there
Oil cooler leaks and maybe also the pan of my Peugeot 307 KFU 1.4L 16V. Water leaks, too. Video?
You did the right thing the check the oil pick up. Many have got clogged, so you did the right thing to check it, as it’s extremely important, clean sump and oil pick up
I had a similar case on my Citroen C4 1.4 16v (KFU engine): low idle oil pressure when the engine (oil) is hot. Replacing the oil sensor, oil pump, oil filter, class 5w40 oil from one brand to another, the timing variator and oil valve, and blowing the oil channels did not work. The solution was to change the oil to a different 5w50 grade (Elf Evolution) + one can "STP Motor Doctor" additive added when engine was hot.
How many miles you have in the dash? Is your car still working well?
10:20 “Don’t just hammer your screwdriver in there,”
5 seconds later he jams a piece of self made tool between the oil pan and the engine block...
🤣 you are right. But it is better to do it with a big tool. i doesn't mark the block as much as a screwdriver.
Excellent, informative video. I wish this mechanic were somewhere near me, as I would certainly go out of my way to use his skills.
There out there, but you have to look around.
Great video. Anything on a 5008 with low engine oil pressure?
No sorry, check the normal culprit first. The oil pressure sensor.
De 1.6 thp heeft deze sensor ook en die is bij mij ook kapot, ik dacht eerst ook verstopt oliefilter haha bedankt voor je video maat en collega
Great video dear. I have low oil pressure with idle after fixing a leaking
At oil filter house gasket , used oil 10w30 instead of 5w30.
Can change to 0w20 oil?
. Still the problem
Awesome video and very helpful, it has definitely answered alot of my question
That is great to hear! Thank you for watching.
You know I have a problem like that and I had to change oil filter and oil but this morning it came back to that problem. But what I didn't know is the sensor you took off under the car close to the down pipe
Great video man....keep up the good work!!!
Thanks, doing my best.
whats the pattern to tighten the oil sump?? please reply
Did the new Pump fix the problem?
I have a 207 with KFU Engine and 120000km on it. Oil pressure warning when Hot on idle.
New Sensor didnt Help.
The solution is set in motion and clean the valve in the oil filter bowl (6:50).
High grade mechanic 🔥🔥 I think you did what’s needed and yes those oil lines will be my next step , the oil sump design is simply disgusting and by design 🤮
I took off the gauze filter inside the sump for cleaning 👍🏻 Dv6 engine right ?
I've the same engine.
The Problem is, that the intake manifold pressure in idle is way to high (45-60KPA) and if i press gas, the pressure goes down to normal (30kpa).
Maybe the camshaft adjuster is in wrong position cuz of to less Oil pressure and this is the reason for to high intakte manifold pressure? What do you think?
I've no Errors! The Oil pressure Sensor is replaced.
I'm not an expert with this engine but what i do know is that "sluge" is a real problem with it. The oil channels are easily clogged when the wrong engine oil is used. If I were you I would do an engine flush.
Hi the dutch Garage. I read that flywheel crank sensor is the couse of this problem??İf we change this piece, the problem gone forever?What do you think?
I honestly don't know, it is of course possible. If there not that expensive i would try it.
These engines are crap unfortunately not many left
I have citroen c4 with same engine et3j4. 338000 km. you just need to take care of it. only 3 litres of oil, you need to replenish it often. Engine suffers lack of oil, even half a litre. Also, you need to use good oil and change it regularly. 30k km are way too much. The engine in this video has bearings damage, you can hear it at 17:05. lifters clicking but also bearings, mine doesn't sound that way.
Where is the injector ?
Hi ! Thank you for your info and sharing. I have exactly same issue !! Checking the censors soon. Hopefully fix the problem. Thank you means a lot for me!! You are a savior!! Could be easy fix like you says before I go to garage tear apart engine or anything else but censor !!!
No problem, glad to help. Hope it is the sensor.
Very honest video. And yes I've learned from it. Thank you very much. Cheers from Belgium
no problem!
Amazing video
Thank you!
@@TheDutchGarage what is the right oil pressure on idle on this engine?
hello!
thank you for this video .
can you give me the refernce for the OIL of the engine (ACEA Specifications)?
thanks .
Hi there, it is a 0w30 oil ACEA C2
PSA B71 2312
Hello Sir, first of all your channel is very helpful🤟🤟🤟😊, thanks. Could you please tell me what is the name of the part at 4:49 near the ignition coil? Thank you very much in advance
Hi there, thank you die the support! It's a vvt solenoid oem bumper 16 289 242 80 - PEUGEOT
@@TheDutchGarage Thanks a lot, have a nice day 🤟😊🤙
Hi, I have a Peugeot 207 1.6 16V Auto with 55k miles full service history, serviced annually albeit low miles for year. It’s got the mini engine with chain. When I bought the car I thought it had chain slap but after changing the chain, sprockets, guides, original Peugeot tensioner and installed original 0w30 oil, the noise is still there. Sounds endy, high revs it goes away but on idle still sounds like chain slap albeit it’s been changed. Chain change has probably quietened the engine by 10% but it still sounds horrible. Ideas? Appreciated. Await your response. Thanks in advance!
Check the vvt vanos system, it's probably comming from there.
@@TheDutchGarage is that the solenoid or different? Please explain. Thanks.
Indeed, check the solenoids if there not clogged and functioning properly. But it can also be in te sprockets themselves.
What is the name of Sensor @06:00?
Vvt solenoid.
Videos from turkey very helpful with love
Glad to hear that the video helpt you.
its time to go electric .... lol
Electric toothbrush maybe 😊
hello i have 1.4 petrol 207 vehicle i have changed oil pump oil filter oil I changed the sensor. The problem is still continuing. What other reason will the oil pressure warning be?
Try to hookup an external oil pressure gauge and see if it really dips in oil pressure. If it indeed dips then maybe the chain is worn from the oil pump else worn bearings or a clogged system.
@@TheDutchGarage My car threw a cent, the valve was bent, the upper cover was opened, it was repaired, after that it gave this fault, as I said, the original filter pump was renewed. Do you think it is a problem caused by the engine?
@@TheDutchGarage please share your information with me thank you in advance
@@hakangencel4240 If they did remove the head to repair the valve then they already replaced the head gasket. One big common issue is that the gaskets starts to leak and that courses oil pressure to drop. Still try to hookup a external oil presseur gauge and check if its indeed dips.
Cleaning the sump and flushing the oil system has done no harm at all. It's easy to be wise after the event. Most Mechanics would have just condemned the engine and put in a secondhand unit and left the customer with a large bill they could not afford.
So true, you have to know what you're dealing with. Not assume.
i have fault P0012 how can i solve?
P0012 means Camshaft position sensor - timing over retarded.There is not possible to start the engine but if starts-working very,very bad.Check timing belt for damages.If O.K.change the sensor
@@TheDutchGarage this error p0012 its not every time present , but also have some errors related to mixture and oil gauge p205D P0171 AND P0130
That helps me lots thanks mate
No problem
goed steenkolenengels
😅, het grappig is dat engels sprekende mensen het een leuk accent vinden. Ik kan daar ook niet bij.😆
Hello, we contacted you before, the problem is still not resolved, my vehicle is oil in 215000 kilometers What should I use? Does it matter from oil? Mobil 5w40 may be suitable? Help to cut the oil pressure
A thicker oil would help keep pressure longer. But its more of a band aid then A real solution.
@@TheDutchGarage I put 10w40 before, but then I learned that the oil suitable for the engine is Mobil 1 esp 5w30, I did not have a chance to try it yet, how many oil do you use and engine oil additive?
@@TheDutchGarage ??????
@@hakangencel4240 Additives are mostly a bandaide not a fix. I do think it was something like 4 liters or so. Als your parts store they can easily look it up for you.
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Very informative, you are awsome.
Thank you for the compliment!
My peugeot 207 kept on telling me that oil pressure too low stop
I am thinking to change oil pump and oil plus oil filter
@@alimakhuzeni7527 did u fix it?
Not yet
@@gicugigel3790still looking for oil pump that stays inside a sump
@@alimakhuzeni7527 you should put 5w50 oil
Hi. Can you please help me with a bit of advice? I have bought the same car with the same engine. I've bought it broken with the intention to fix it. The timing belt and all the area where the belts are is full of oil. I've drained the oil, about 2 litters of it, and it seems to be just oil, but the expansion tank is full of milkshake. Can it be the head gasket or just the oil cooler? And before I get more in to it, where do you think all that oil got out from? Engine seals or just out through the expansion tank? Oh, and another question. What can I use to get that damn engine mount off? Thank you and I'm waiting for your answers.
I'm almost sure that the head gasket is gone. It's a comment problem with this engine. About the mount, I have an other video that shows how to change the timing belt on this engine. Hope that helps.
Thank you very much. I'll have to buy myself a better quality torx socket for the lateral mount screws because today when i was trying to get it undone, i've bent the torx a little bit and i also think i've damaged the screw. Anyway thanks a lot.
Good luck👍. Take your time and keep your head cool.
Hi. I took the header of but the head gasket doesn't seem to have visible damage. On the outside of the wet liners, instead of coolant there is oil. Is it possible that the sealer of a liner have failed? And if yes, how can it be verified with the header of? I don't want to pull it out for no reason.
@@razvanursache9493 did you fix it?
Hello I am writing to you from Türkiye.Last year I bought a Pejo 207 1.4 90 hp.When I did regular maintanence last year(2019) my car warning low oil pressure.Then rsearch tis problem from internet and I found your video.I did what you say.I cleaned the oil cover and use mahle oil filter and Hella oil pressure sensor.And the problem gone.This year (2020)I do regular mantanence my car.I changed oil and oil filter(mahle) but I didn't clean Oil cover.The warning come back.I have to clean oil cover every maintanence ?Please help me?
Hi there, normally you don't have to clean the oil pan or the pickup tube every service. But does the engine leak oil?
@@TheDutchGarage no,the engine doesn't leak oil. Last year I drive the car 6000 km without warning.When changed oil and oil filter the warning come back again.This saturday I will clean the oil pan again and change oil filter with bosch oil filter.Do you have any advice?Because nobody knows anything about this problem in Turkey.
@@ataegemenbostan Did you try to flush the engine? Also I do know that it is vital to get the right blend of oil for this engine.
@@TheDutchGarage no I didn't try.Which product is the best for flush the engine?
@@ataegemenbostan I dont know what is the best but I have some good luck with Wynnes.
Hi Dutch Garage, i have a 2008 Peugeot 207 1.6 VTI with a low oil pressure warning when the engine warms up and at idle. The warning goes away above 1000 r.p.m
My mechanic doesn't seem to know the cause, i find your video quite informative.
What are your thoughts ?
The first thing I would do is change the oil pressure sensor.
I have exactly the same problem with my 207 at idle when warm below 1000rpm! Can you tell me what the problem was and have you been able to cure the fault?😃👍
@@jaseegee9293 how did u fix it?
@@gicugigel3790 new oil pressure sensor if the engine is high mileage try a thicker grade oil
@@jaseegee9293 it depends what you mean by "high milleage" for this engines. Many get this "low oil pressure" with around 150k kms on the dash. So you solved the problem with new oil pressure sensor?
Goeie video!
Dank!
What problem? Is oil pressure too low?
No, in this case it was the sensor. But the engine dit suffer from starvation in some point of its life. Probably due lack of oil.
My citroen with the same engine still has low oil pressure problems
@@stnislavhonda2456 that sucks, than you probably need to replace the oil pump. It can be that the oil pressure regulator in the pump is stuck.
@@TheDutchGarage is the oil regulator on the oil pump?
@@stnislavhonda2456 Yes it is a spring with a piston that regulates oil pressure. It does happen that it is stuck and that can course pressure loss. Also the pump itself can be worn. Or the engine itself is really worn. Does the engine leak a lot of oil?
Top vid man 👏👍
Thank you!
@@TheDutchGarage , I have one of these cars 1.4 16v
On 56 plate in middle screen this morning popped up low pressure oil then did not appear again if was a problem would it stay up on screen in middle cheers mark
Any ideas mate
Be sure that there is enough oil in the car. Second the oil pressure sensors are prone to go bad what I was told, so maybe replace it just to be sure. There not that expensive.
@@TheDutchGarage top man thank you 👌👍
Perhaps you did jump in at the deep end by not first changing the sensor, but, after seeing how dirty that engine was inside and the dirt/contamination in the oil filters, you were correct in carrying out the work you have done.
Just replacing the sensor alone would have not been the long term solution. Your repair has done a much better job and was definitely needed.
Maybe you are right, it was just a big mess.
Hi and liked your video as gave me some idea as to whats happened on my car. Its a Peugeot 3008 2010 model and i had the "engine oil pressure low warning come and then STOP continually shouting at me!! should i start with the oil pressure switch?
It's a common problem and there dirt cheap. So I would do that try that first.
@@TheDutchGarage Thank you for getting back much appreciated :-)
@@spencerward2139 how did u fix it?
Heb je inmiddels al nieuwe handschoenen? ;)
Nee deze kunnen nog wel even mee 😉