Great exercise and thanks for the advice to keep your elbows in place. Correct me if I’m wrong, I noticed that the fingers have to play exactly in the direction of the key, they must neither tend to pull backwards nor forwards even in the slightest degree, otherwise you lose stability and end in a tug of war. Thanks in advance for your answer! Compliments for your playing, what perfect control, beautiful sound and expression!
This is a fantastic finger trill excercise. Obviously, every finger is equally worked, and you must feel totally ready to play whatever you have to in a concert. Thankyou so much for sharing this.😊😊😊❤️
Great exercise! But if overdone or done poorly there is a significant risk of repetitive strain injury with a routine like this. So for goodness sakes stop IMMEDIATELY if you feel the slightest discomfort. And next time you practise it, try and diagnose the source of the tension that caused the discomfort.
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Yes, very important, thanks for adding this. In general, one should stop practicing immediately when feeling discomfort or pain. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Danae, this exercise is astonishing. The difference in finger independence and fine control with only a few slow practices was hard to believe. I’m hooked! Why is it called the Mozart trill btw?
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So happy to hear that - I am not sure why it has that name, to be honest, but ever since I learned it, that’s the name that I was taught. 🤗
This is new to me Danae. I warm up with grand scales in a couple of keys and three minor key variations, then a few minutes improvised nonsense. (i only play for myself - still learning after all these years). I always enjoy your YT videos.
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Thanks so much for watching, so glad you enjoyed it! 🙏🏻
Love this video. Was wondering if for finger type exercises in future if you could record overhead? Would make it a bit easier to see what your hands are doing. The side angle is great because it let's us see what your body, arms etc are up to but I'm sometimes a little slow at trying to gather what you're getting at because I can't see what the hand itself is doing with each finger if that makes sense. Brilliant video though never done this before or heard of it thanks.
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Thanks so much. I will try to change the setup up a bit in order to include some angles from above as well. :) Thanks for watching! 🙏🏻
Fantastic exercise! Two questions concerning the execution: 1.) do you keep your fingers parallel to the keys the whole time or do you adjust their orientation, for instance to make the pinky reach a black key? 2.) You seem to play with rather low wrists. What is the idea behind that? I thought that straight arms and wrists are the standard for finger intense piano playing in order to avoid injuries. Thank you so much!
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I do adjust my fingers and their orientation according to the interval I am playing. Concerning my wrists, I do keep them low for this exercise in order to ensure that my fingers are moving independently and getting the training they need. However, when playing other things, I do lift them a bit higher. Hope this helps! Thanks so much for watching 🙏🏻
Thank You for the video! 1-3 2-4 3-5 4-5 3-4 2-3 and I will add 1-2 🙂 I have question, when You practise LH trills on Bflat and A with 1-2, Do You trill 2(second finger) on Bflat or 1 on Bflat?
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I use 1 on the B flat in order to get through all the hand positions. :)
I just found this channel and have to tell you're really awesome playing and teaching. Thanks a lot for sharing all this knowledge you have. You should have many more subscribers!
Hallo liebe Danae, erst einmal ein ganz großes und herzliches Lob für deine Zuwendung und die informativen Videos. Sehr, sehr schön gemacht von dir wie immer. Du hast wirklich eine unheimlich warmherzige und liebenswerte Art. Es gibt einen schönen Spruch passend dazu : Wir lernen nur von denen, die wir lieben. ( Johann W.von Goethe ) Danae, ganz herzlichen Dank für deine Videos. PS: Überkopf-Kamera wäre wunderbar-Danke. Oliver
Bonjour Danae. Je suis vos enseignements que je trouve super. Serait-il possible d avoir les exercices de cette vidéo en partition svp?
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Bonjour :) I have an online piano course with sheet music and a workbook that goes in detail with these basic technique building exercises. You can take a look here if you like: www.pianist.academy/Danae-doerken?ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pianist.academy%2Fa%2F2147498440%2F6dvUeP6G Merci beaucoup!
Thanks a lot for your video ! I’ve been looking everywhere for UA-cam videos and exercices to improve trills and finger independence but nothing efficient or hands-on approaches came up so I’m glad ! I started out playing the piano like two months ago and I was wondering : how long do you think it would take to see results, to improve your technique, if I were to do that exercice every single day, as a warmup or else, on a actual piece ? And as a beginner, would you mind writing out all all the combinations you performed pls ? For example, for the right hand the first ones were C-C#-C-D-C-D#-C-E and C#-D-C#-D#-C#-E-C#-E# what are the next ? Sorry, I’m not comfortable with the patterns described yet and you were playing too fast me to catch everything, I really want to improve… Thanks again !!
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Your progress depends on which other exercises you are doing in addition to that. If you have a good set of technical exercises and repertoire pieces and practice all this regularly, I think you can improve your technique considerably within 1-2 years. The other patterns in the right hand are: D D# D E D F D F# D# E D# F D# F# D# G E F E F# E G E G# F# G F# G# F# A F# A# Left hand: E D# E D E C# E C D# D D# C# D# C D# B D C# D C D B D A# C# C C# B C# A# C# A A# A A# G# A# G A# F# Have fun with it!
Thanks Danae, this exercise has helped me a lot, i cannot say how much thankful i am for your incredible content and insight in all of your videos, as a question, i have just seen that in your other video about thrills you actually play 4 triplets per finger combination, i have been practicing the exercise for a month but only in 2 triplets per finger combination as shown in this tutorial, now im confused, I guess it is better to practice it by playing it in 4 triplets, or it is a matter of how much time to practice i have? Thanks Danae, greeting from México 😊
Hey Danae, thank you for sharing this exercise! I have found it very helpful. Stupid question: Is there any particular reason the fingering 1-2 is left out in the end?
When playing Mozart one commentator stated flatly that all his trills should begin on the upper note. I'm studying the Concerto 9 and I don't hear any of the trills beginning on the upper note in the performances I listen to (such as Uchida and Perahia). How do you perform them in Mozart, and thank you!
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There is a general rule of starting Mozart trills from above, however there are exceptions and in the end, every situation is different. :)
Hi Danae, thanks for another great video! I have a question about how you practice trills that are accompanied with other notes on other fingers. In particular Beethovens sonata 29, just before the first repeat (in the first part), there are trills using thumb and finger 2 on D/E, but also notes in the upper fingers. And most difficult is where he has a chord spanning a full octave and also 3 notes above the trill so the span requires very large hands (which mine are not). I would be curious to know how that would be played if you can't span 11 notes... I think Beethoven was the first to do this kind of thing, I've noticed it in other works. Listz of course was famous for these too. Thanks!
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Oh yes, these are really tricky passages. If you cannot actually span that far, you have to alternate between the melodic notes and the trill and try to make it sound as natural as possible by trying to seamlessly get back to the trill after having played each melodic note. But this is always a passage that requires some extra practice, also if you can span it. You have to somehow divide your hand into two parts and try to make them act independently from each other.
How many repetitions for each finger? That is how many times with 13 before moving onto 24, etc. you might describe it as how many triplets with each fingering. Presently this exercise takes about 40 minutes for me. I’m wondering if I am doing too many repetitions for each finger combination.
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I do two versions of this (on 2 different days 😉). The longer versions is 8 triplets per fingering, the shorter one I do is only 2 triplets per fingering. Hope this helps and have fun with the exercise. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Hello Danae, thank you for the video. I hope to share my teaching ideas on UA-cam in the future and you have been inspiring me in this regard for a couple months now. I have a concern about this exercise: is finger combination 1-2 ever isolated or am I just missing it? I didn't know this exercise and it seems like it gives great "bang for the buck!" I like how your version is more thorough and expansive than Graham Fitch and Martha Beth Lewis (two good sources that came up on a quick google search). Doing all the intervals and key combinations is great! Thank you! You are so thoroughly trained it's inspiring! Charles in Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Oddly enough Martha Beth Lewis doesn't seem to put the non-adjacent 1-3, 2-4, 3-5 trills explicitly in her definition of the exercise, though it's a bit ambiguous. And I did note that there's no 1-2 exercise in this version.
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Thanks you so much, so glad to hear that! You are right that in the way that I practice the exercise, the finger combination 1-2 is missing, but of course you can either add it as the last finger combination after 2-3 or also practice it isolated after you are done with the exercise in this form. I didn’t include it because I feel that the flow when adding up all the combinations and intervals together is much better when going back to the beginning of the cycle with 1-3 after the 2-3. Thanks so much for watching and all the best with your future UA-cam channel - you should definitely do it! 💪🏻😊
Question; apparently trills w/ 1-2 are not included, or am I mistaken? Love your content!
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Thank you so much! Yes, you are right, the 1-2 trills are typically not included in this exercise (I am not sure why, to be honest), but I also sometimes just add them to the end of the exercise, just to make sure to practice that finger combination as well. Thanks for watching!
When practicing Mozart's trill, do you have the weight of the forearm at your fingertips?
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I try to play it with the „fingers only“ approach, meaning that I try to activate my fingers as much as I can without using a lot of arm weight. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
You are a great girl with lot of talent and proficiency at piano... but it wud be nice if yo put camera from above so that we can also see what u talking about.... or say your fingers doing.... No? 😃
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Duly noted, and I will be using this angle more and more now that I have bought the necessary equipment for it. :)
No wonder you practise this trill excercise. It‘s like a boot-camp for finger soldiers! 🥵
Richard.
Absolutely brilliant!🖐🖐
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It‘s a wonder that your finger muscles arn‘t as large as the arm muscles illustrated!!
Great exercise and thanks for the advice to keep your elbows in place. Correct me if I’m wrong, I noticed that the fingers have to play exactly in the direction of the key, they must neither tend to pull backwards nor forwards even in the slightest degree, otherwise you lose stability and end in a tug of war. Thanks in advance for your answer! Compliments for your playing, what perfect control, beautiful sound and expression!
This is a fantastic finger trill excercise.
Obviously, every finger is equally worked, and you must feel totally ready to play whatever you have to in a concert.
Thankyou so much for sharing this.😊😊😊❤️
🙏🏻
You are an excellent communicator. Great content. Thank you.
Thanks so much 🙏🏻
thank you very much.
very helpful.
Thanks, Danae - yet another inspirational video. Practising the piano is much more fun since I started watching your videos!
So happy to hear this :)))
@ I always enjoy your videos - you make everything seem possible
Thank you so very much for this! So helpful 🎶🎵🎶
Thank you for this video, I will try this out right away! Your tips have helped me tremendously!!
So glad you liked it!
Great exercise! But if overdone or done poorly there is a significant risk of repetitive strain injury with a routine like this. So for goodness sakes stop IMMEDIATELY if you feel the slightest discomfort. And next time you practise it, try and diagnose the source of the tension that caused the discomfort.
Yes, very important, thanks for adding this. In general, one should stop practicing immediately when feeling discomfort or pain. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Thank you. A very useful exercise. I will definitely be using it regularly. 😊
Hope it helps, thanks for watching!
Danae, this exercise is astonishing. The difference in finger independence and fine control with only a few slow practices was hard to believe. I’m hooked! Why is it called the Mozart trill btw?
So happy to hear that - I am not sure why it has that name, to be honest, but ever since I learned it, that’s the name that I was taught. 🤗
Thank you! I appreciate the detail with which you have presented this exercise. I am looking forward to learning more from your videos!
Thank you so much!
This is new to me Danae. I warm up with grand scales in a couple of keys and three minor key variations, then a few minutes improvised nonsense. (i only play for myself - still learning after all these years). I always enjoy your YT videos.
Thanks so much for watching, so glad you enjoyed it! 🙏🏻
This exercise was new to me. I am anxious to try it. Good job explaining the exercise.
Have fun with it 👌🏻🤗 thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Love this video. Was wondering if for finger type exercises in future if you could record overhead? Would make it a bit easier to see what your hands are doing. The side angle is great because it let's us see what your body, arms etc are up to but I'm sometimes a little slow at trying to gather what you're getting at because I can't see what the hand itself is doing with each finger if that makes sense.
Brilliant video though never done this before or heard of it thanks.
Thanks so much. I will try to change the setup up a bit in order to include some angles from above as well. :) Thanks for watching! 🙏🏻
Great exercise! Thank you!
So glad it helped! :)
Fantastic exercise!
Two questions concerning the execution:
1.) do you keep your fingers parallel to the keys the whole time or do you adjust their orientation, for instance to make the pinky reach a black key?
2.) You seem to play with rather low wrists. What is the idea behind that? I thought that straight arms and wrists are the standard for finger intense piano playing in order to avoid injuries.
Thank you so much!
I do adjust my fingers and their orientation according to the interval I am playing. Concerning my wrists, I do keep them low for this exercise in order to ensure that my fingers are moving independently and getting the training they need. However, when playing other things, I do lift them a bit higher. Hope this helps! Thanks so much for watching 🙏🏻
Vielen Dank für deine Videos, Danae!!
Danke fürs Zuschauen! 🙏🏻
Thanks for all your knowledge in piano methods.🌷🍓❤️🌷
So glad you are finding it helpful. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Wonderful! Thank you!
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Great! I will start using this exercise. I'm sure it will help a lot once you get the hang of it. Thanks for sharing. Regards.
Thanks so much for watching! 🙏🏻 Have fun with the exercise :)
Thank You for the video! 1-3 2-4 3-5 4-5 3-4 2-3 and I will add 1-2 🙂
I have question, when You practise LH trills on Bflat and A with 1-2, Do You trill 2(second finger) on Bflat or 1 on Bflat?
I use 1 on the B flat in order to get through all the hand positions. :)
Thank you this is great. You are very unique
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I just found this channel and have to tell you're really awesome playing and teaching. Thanks a lot for sharing all this knowledge you have. You should have many more subscribers!
Thank you so much, so happy to read this!
Hallo liebe Danae,
erst einmal ein ganz großes und herzliches Lob für deine Zuwendung und die informativen Videos.
Sehr, sehr schön gemacht von dir wie immer.
Du hast wirklich eine unheimlich warmherzige und liebenswerte Art.
Es gibt einen schönen Spruch passend dazu :
Wir lernen nur von denen, die wir lieben. ( Johann W.von Goethe )
Danae, ganz herzlichen Dank für deine Videos.
PS: Überkopf-Kamera wäre wunderbar-Danke.
Oliver
Vielen herzlichen Dank, das freut mich sehr! :)
Bonjour Danae.
Je suis vos enseignements que je trouve super. Serait-il possible d avoir les exercices de cette vidéo en partition svp?
Bonjour :) I have an online piano course with sheet music and a workbook that goes in detail with these basic technique building exercises. You can take a look here if you like:
www.pianist.academy/Danae-doerken?ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pianist.academy%2Fa%2F2147498440%2F6dvUeP6G
Merci beaucoup!
Thanks a lot for your video ! I’ve been looking everywhere for UA-cam videos and exercices to improve trills and finger independence but nothing efficient or hands-on approaches came up so I’m glad !
I started out playing the piano like two months ago and I was wondering : how long do you think it would take to see results, to improve your technique, if I were to do that exercice every single day, as a warmup or else, on a actual piece ?
And as a beginner, would you mind writing out all all the combinations you performed pls ? For example, for the right hand the first ones were C-C#-C-D-C-D#-C-E and C#-D-C#-D#-C#-E-C#-E# what are the next ?
Sorry, I’m not comfortable with the patterns described yet and you were playing too fast me to catch everything, I really want to improve…
Thanks again !!
Your progress depends on which other exercises you are doing in addition to that. If you have a good set of technical exercises and repertoire pieces and practice all this regularly, I think you can improve your technique considerably within 1-2 years.
The other patterns in the right hand are:
D D# D E D F D F#
D# E D# F D# F# D# G
E F E F# E G E G#
F# G F# G# F# A F# A#
Left hand:
E D# E D E C# E C
D# D D# C# D# C D# B
D C# D C D B D A#
C# C C# B C# A# C# A
A# A A# G# A# G A# F#
Have fun with it!
Amazing!!!
By the way, I am experiencing some quick development in Chopin's op 10 n 2, after your great advices!!!
Thank you very much, Danae😊
So glad to hear that! Thanks for watching and all the best with Chopin op 10 no 2 🤗
Awesome😅
Thanks Danae, this exercise has helped me a lot, i cannot say how much thankful i am for your incredible content and insight in all of your videos, as a question, i have just seen that in your other video about thrills you actually play 4 triplets per finger combination, i have been practicing the exercise for a month but only in 2 triplets per finger combination as shown in this tutorial, now im confused, I guess it is better to practice it by playing it in 4 triplets, or it is a matter of how much time to practice i have? Thanks Danae, greeting from México 😊
I noticed you did all the adjacent finger combinations except 1-2, and I'm wondering why that is?
Hey Danae, thank you for sharing this exercise! I have found it very helpful. Stupid question: Is there any particular reason the fingering 1-2 is left out in the end?
When playing Mozart one commentator stated flatly that all his trills should begin on the upper note. I'm studying the Concerto 9 and I don't hear any of the trills beginning on the upper note in the performances I listen to (such as Uchida and Perahia). How do you perform them in Mozart, and thank you!
There is a general rule of starting Mozart trills from above, however there are exceptions and in the end, every situation is different. :)
Out of possible 10 combos only 7 are done. For the sake of warm-up why not add the remaining 1-4, 1-5, 2-5?
Hi Danae, thanks for another great video! I have a question about how you practice trills that are accompanied with other notes on other fingers. In particular Beethovens sonata 29, just before the first repeat (in the first part), there are trills using thumb and finger 2 on D/E, but also notes in the upper fingers. And most difficult is where he has a chord spanning a full octave and also 3 notes above the trill so the span requires very large hands (which mine are not). I would be curious to know how that would be played if you can't span 11 notes... I think Beethoven was the first to do this kind of thing, I've noticed it in other works. Listz of course was famous for these too. Thanks!
Oh yes, these are really tricky passages. If you cannot actually span that far, you have to alternate between the melodic notes and the trill and try to make it sound as natural as possible by trying to seamlessly get back to the trill after having played each melodic note. But this is always a passage that requires some extra practice, also if you can span it. You have to somehow divide your hand into two parts and try to make them act independently from each other.
How many repetitions for each finger? That is how many times with 13 before moving onto 24, etc. you might describe it as how many triplets with each fingering. Presently this exercise takes about 40 minutes for me. I’m wondering if I am doing too many repetitions for each finger combination.
I do two versions of this (on 2 different days 😉). The longer versions is 8 triplets per fingering, the shorter one I do is only 2 triplets per fingering. Hope this helps and have fun with the exercise. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
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Hello Danae, thank you for the video. I hope to share my teaching ideas on UA-cam in the future and you have been inspiring me in this regard for a couple months now.
I have a concern about this exercise: is finger combination 1-2 ever isolated or am I just missing it?
I didn't know this exercise and it seems like it gives great "bang for the buck!" I like how your version is more thorough and expansive than Graham Fitch and Martha Beth Lewis (two good sources that came up on a quick google search). Doing all the intervals and key combinations is great! Thank you! You are so thoroughly trained it's inspiring!
Charles in Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Oddly enough Martha Beth Lewis doesn't seem to put the non-adjacent 1-3, 2-4, 3-5 trills explicitly in her definition of the exercise, though it's a bit ambiguous. And I did note that there's no 1-2 exercise in this version.
Thanks you so much, so glad to hear that! You are right that in the way that I practice the exercise, the finger combination 1-2 is missing, but of course you can either add it as the last finger combination after 2-3 or also practice it isolated after you are done with the exercise in this form. I didn’t include it because I feel that the flow when adding up all the combinations and intervals together is much better when going back to the beginning of the cycle with 1-3 after the 2-3. Thanks so much for watching and all the best with your future UA-cam channel - you should definitely do it! 💪🏻😊
I will have to try this. It sounds quite trilling. ha-ha-ha
Hahaha 😉😂 Thanks for watching and have fun with the exercise!
Question; apparently trills w/ 1-2 are not included, or am I mistaken? Love your content!
Thank you so much! Yes, you are right, the 1-2 trills are typically not included in this exercise (I am not sure why, to be honest), but I also sometimes just add them to the end of the exercise, just to make sure to practice that finger combination as well. Thanks for watching!
The triplet time trains the 4th finger preferentially in a 3:1 fashion. Is that one of the nested secrets? :)
When practicing Mozart's trill, do you have the weight of the forearm at your fingertips?
I try to play it with the „fingers only“ approach, meaning that I try to activate my fingers as much as I can without using a lot of arm weight. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@ So this is just a practice method, not for actual performance, right? It's medicine, not a meal?
You are a great girl with lot of talent and proficiency at piano... but it wud be nice if yo put camera from above so that we can also see what u talking about.... or say your fingers doing.... No? 😃
Duly noted, and I will be using this angle more and more now that I have bought the necessary equipment for it. :)