Lord Jamar Believes That Michael Jackson Hated His Blackness (Part 13)
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In this clip, Lord Jamar discussed the passing of Joe Jackson. For Lord Jamar, the seemingly quiet affair of the Jackson patriarch comes as no surprise because he accuses the media of blackballing Joe due to him being a strong black father. Lord Jamar and Vlad go back-and-forth about the Jackson legacy and how Joe was the architect of their success despite the sour relationship he had with his kids, Michael in particular.
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Seems like jamar wants to keep Michael in hell. jamar supports his ego with a delusion based on a trick. Shouldn't a Lord have the power to empower an individual? His bashing is less important than a trip to a gas giant.
djvlad what's up with that OJ Simpson interview lol
Jamar is wrong asf on this subject
Of course he did most colored people want to be white.once you can even convince Asians to skin bleach you’ve pretty much conquered these people.
djvlad JUST DROP THIS ENTIRE VIDEO! DAMN!
He had vitiligo, this has been 100% proven after his autopsy. He used skin lightening creams to even out the spots on his skin. He is on video saying how proud he is to be African American. Dunno why people still debate this.
The narrowing of the nose and lips were also due to vitiligo?
How about the chin cleft?
The straightened hair pieces? Those, too?
LOL..... 4 real explain that Bingo the Pug
Yeah and then he adopted all white kids.
Mike had vitiligo and he got surgery for his skin. He wore wigs on his head after that Pepsi commercial. But what I think what Mike did was capitalize off his skin lightning do to his skin disease as a black man. He never denied his Blackness. FACTS 💯!! Why you think the media bashed him as a black man he owned half of Sony, publishing, and a Elvis catalog. You can say what you want but Mike was a brilliant business man.
Yes! Exactly!
@dwone jones He did not hate being black. He was proud to be black. Having a skin disorder, getting a small nose, and having straight hair for 9 years does not equal hating his own race. If you for some reason still don't believe it, then I recommend this video: ua-cam.com/video/KwNtIz1px5Y/v-deo.html
dwone jones - Him having vitiligo does not mean he hated being black. Get that through your thick head and stop listening to this guy. He doesn't know shit about Michael or his family.
I believe he had vitiligo as well. Can't explain the nose jobs though ...
@@eddiexjunior It is rather too coincidental that he got a Caucasian nose in the process
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Rebbie Jackson was one of the few members of the family that WANTED a normal life outside of show business. She married the man that she loved (despite her father's protest; and refusal to even walk her down the aisle), never got a divorce, had a few kids but sadly her husband passed away a few years ago.
True, her life may not have been filled with the same level of money and fame as some of her more famous siblings...but at least she had a stable home and loving marriage/family outside of The Jacksons.
That sounds as good as a Grammy in my book when compared to the ups-and-downs of show business (leading to addictions, stress, etc.) that some of her other siblings had to deal with.
His autopsy said he had Vitiligo so how he doesn't like being black. He's done more for blacks then people would ever know. Just imagine u the biggest star on the planet and then Vitiligo and Lupus kicks in how would u feel. He couldn't just go hide because he was the biggest star walking the planet
Then why all the face surgery I loved Mike no matter his color but I'm not blind
LV Keyz he could do whatever he felt simple further more when you in Hollywood bullying goes on and remarks so to be quite frankly nobody knows what he really went through but people who loved him didn't care if he was green people loved his ass
LV Keyz he broke his nose, which led to his first nose job. Then it turned into not liking how it looked and trying to fix it with more surgery.... I can't comment on anything else done to his face.
What about the self hate pertaining to his children that he did not produce. He hated himself so bad to the fact that he didn’t even want black children. He didn’t want them to even look like The Jackson’s. We all know that no matter how many surgeries that you have, you damn sure can’t cheat the code of DNA!
thunderkat9503 How do you know this as fact? For all we know, Michael was infertile and couldn't biologically have kids. We don't know, and we'll never know! This is all speculation.
What we do know for a fact, is that his father fucked him up psychologically, which caused some self-hatred.... him resembling his father? Most likely. Him hating his blackness? No.
You CANNOT say the mom did nothing. She carried and gave birth to all of them. And it was actually 10. Marlon is a twin and the twin died at birth. And moms held them down in the home. She did a lot. Its not just the music that counts
Omar Scruggs yeah but that's how you even know who they are so it matters
True
Plus Mrs. Jackson had the idea of calling them the Jackson 5 and the idea of putting Michael in the group
Omar Scruggs it is the music that counts cause that’s the subject and what made them rich. They are talking on terms of success not motherly duties
@@ikexbankai - No, the name of calling the group the Jackson 5 came from a lady who saw them perform at a contest in Gary. Evelyn LaHaie suggested that the group name themselves the Jackson Five Singing Group.
We had this conversation before... Leave MJ Alone... R.I.P.
TheMook1012 MJ was a child molester not a good person. He's seen On video saying he laid in bed with children in their underwear and we r sick for thinking it's sexual FUCK HIM
TheMook1012 stfu
Last Call TV u stfu
Facts
not true!
It was proven in his autopsy that he had vitiligo, as well as lupus. End of story.
@Go Joe It has nothing to do with white privilege. It has to do with people making bold claims about a man's racial integrity when there's crystal clear evidence in the form of the man's own autopsy among other things that he wasn't lying about having a disease. There are pictures of him with vitiligo patches on his skin in the late 80s. His makeup artist Karen Faye *confirmed* he had it and talked in depth about that for a time she'd have to cover his face with dark makeup until the white patches become too prevalent. There doesn't have to be any deeper meaning. You don't know anything about his medical history aside from what the autopsy, ie an extremely in depth report of his entire body taken when he was at his most vulnerable, tells you. Come nonsensically talk to me about my privilege *after* you've properly informed yourself on the topic. I certainly wish someone would.
@Go Joe Biracial kids don't need to be a perfect mixture of black and white. Look at Quincy Jones' daughter. Jackson's nephew has a daughter that bares the same light skin tone as his cousins.
And even if he did adopt them, or used a sperm donor, why does anyone care? A black man can adopt white kids and not hate his race. That's a pretty bold conclusion to come to when you have 0 context.
@Go Joe Know what? Think whatever you want to think. You're looking at all of it from a very obtuse perspective.
@Go Joe I'm well aware of America's issues concerning racial devision. That being said you baselessly saying someone hated their race because they had kids you assume were produced via a white donor despite them quite possibly being biracial is a different conversation. If you think it isn't, do tell me why that is.
@Nafis Ahmed Uh no. Look at the @ at the beginning of every reply I made. Whoever that is just deleted them.
Michael has said numerous times about his love for his race and blackness. His autopsy report also stated the fact he did have vitiligo. Let the king RIP.
Amit - You think this guy, whoever he even is, and the brain dead fucks in the comments would understand this? I don't know how many times at this point, I've had to explain to people here and in real life this. It's so annoying because they just come up with this shit, "he hated being black" because he had vitiligo. This Jamar guy even went as far as to say he didn't have vitiligo. Fuck him and the rest of the people that believe what he's saying. I hate how these crazy dumbasses become "famous" and just start saying all this nonsense to people and they somehow buy into it. It's ridiculous.
That was a Lie from MJ
@@athonynesbitt7956 what lie...
@@semiribrahim8956 my my, some people believe every thing MJ say kml...
@@athonynesbitt7956 it wasnt just his saying... it was his actions
Totally agree. Definitely hated his blackness. He loved the culture but not the image. It is because of this self hate image that he became such mega star. Had he being the same MJ as a kid I seriously doubt he would have been that successful.
You don’t even know wtf your talking about he had vitiligo and he was trying to match the lighter skin to his darker side until it became so obvious dumbass
@@IvanDiaz-fl6ff And the white kids? LoL!... We liked MJ. Great performer. He was still an embarrassment.
@@ibenzawla your face is an embarrassment just because they weren’t his biological kids doesn’t mean he didn’t want to be black you are just like the media trying to make shit up
@@IvanDiaz-fl6ff There are two problems I see with someone like you:
1. Lack of common sense. I mean come on man. Are you really that ignorant?
2. Celebrity worshipping. This one is global actually. Celebrities are humans like us. They flawed and actually quite stupid.
Again I like Michael for his performance and music but he was flawed as a human in so many ways. Lots of allegations about him that I can't confirm. But what I know about him is quite troubling.
@@ibenzawla what do you know then if you know so much and come with facts all I hit you with is facts dumbass
When Tito was telling the story about the guitar, I instantly remembered that Jackson 5 movie that came out in the 90s.
tonware he broke that fuckin string it was a wrap after that 😁😁
tonware 😅 hell yeah that movie a classic
"That's enough, Joe. That's enough." LMAO!!
Didn't he had to get a branch from a tree outside the house and got beat with that? Joe Jackson was really wild man 😂😂😂
Beastmode 44 Nah I think that was Marlon. Tito got that belt treatment lol!!
Michael Jackson has never denied, or been ashamed of his Blackness. He has said several times about how he was proud to be a black man. I'm so tired of folk acting like they knew him personally and knows his motivations. Who is this dude again??
DawnofA your right to because I had watched that same interview your talking about to he definitely said it
DawnofA exaxtly he always identified as black, and was offended when ppl said otherwise, plus look at his music...After BAD, which was so much different then Thriller, he went back to his roots look at remember the time, that was about blackness and Africa and pharaohs, look at they don't care about us, being with black people. He never disassociated himself from black...people were just ignorant and wanted to think what they wanted
He genetically engineered his kids to be white OR he bought a white couples kids
DawnofA so why he got white kids, thin lips and a white person nose
DawnofA words and actions are 2 different things
At the end of the day you gotta respect Joe Jackson. He invested time and money in his kids to become a successful in the music industry. Some parents don't even invest in their own kids but Joe Invested in 9 kids and made all them successful.
RIP Joe Jackson
Cameron Johnson - Well said but him beating his kids (especially Michael) to near death is not an excuse. I'll still respect the guy and say R.I.P. to him but just keep in mind of what he did. He's that guy who you hate but love at the same time for what he did to get his children into that successful lifestyle.
@chakur25 well at least ALL these grown ass men in prison respected ALL their parents ALL the time right? Shut your old ass up.
No he made his kidd sign a contract with the devil and worship satan and he died
No I dont
How do you respect child abuse?
Rest in peace Joe Jackson raise a good family 🙏🏿🕊️
Stevie Newby talented? Yes
All fucking weirdos with head problems though.
He Did but he was a abuser and kept hitting on Michael when he was a kid💯
Nah fuck him he best them
Yes, and also cheated on his wife AND was abusing the mistress.
@@tias.6675You love his son so stfu
It pains me to say this because I’m such a MJ fan and I loved his music and I do feel he got treated wrong by the press BUT I do think that he never really loved HIS BLACKNESS because it reminded him of his FATHER.
Do more research his autopsy clearly indicated that he had vitiligo.
@@raiden8991 He had vitiligo but he hated being black. Period. Look at those so called kids. He wanted white blue eyed kids NOT Black.
LOL, I think you got it all screwed up, son. He didn't want to look like his father. It had nothing to do with skin colour. Once again, another person who can't even prove he was ashamed of his black self and a racist. You trolls must all work for the tabloids
@@raiden8991 they never will cause they are ignorant and are pathetic 🙄
I think he just liked the caucasian esthetic. He preferred that look for himself but he loved all people
People can say what they want about Joe Jackson but the bottom line is this: He didn't run out on his kids and also made it possible for them to become the legends they are.
Hollywood mess up joe Jackson too black too strong real dad
Exactly! He was about making them successful!
On point!!
If you're poor then you shouldn't be having multiple children. Get your life right first. It wasn't the children's responsibility to provide. That is the job of the parents. Period! On top of the fact that they were NOT "whipped in to shape" but ABUSED to be what their FATHER wanted them to be. Instead of being children and exploring what they wanted to be on their own. Doctor, police officer, lawyer, veterinarian or firefighter. Michael Jackson always related to children because his childhood was stolen by his father for his selfish reasons. It's actually a very sad story. All the money and things Michael Jackson had to feel alone and unsafe. Watch his different interviews and documentaries where he explained how often times he and his kids had birthday parties without other people invited... or like he felt "trapped". No amount of money or fame is worth losing your peace of mind and freedom!
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Exactly. Jamar commending Joe for “getting his family out of poverty through any means necessary” is crazy. Joe used his kids and stole a lot of their lives from them. Once your childhood is gone, it’s gone forever. There is no going back. And Mike had a hard time with life because his childhood was stolen from him by an abusive father who treated Mike like trained seal.
I get your point but back in the day abortion was not a option and contraception.
People didn’t have much , but still had lots of children If your married have lots of children
Today people are richer but have measly 1 or 2 kids because there “economy savvy “
tabitha1821 People always have a choice. Before marriage, before sex, you make the choice to be responsible adults and not have children. A gun was not point to their head to have all those kids. They chose that. I don't care what year it was. They had a choice to decide what and what not to do.
folks need to stop always judging and acting like they knew what MJ was about. the Brother loved his blackness
and let it be known.
Maximillian Muhammad that’s why both of his kids are white.
@It's just me he has other kid
@@collinsjean2422
Lol
Okay, fair. Why are his kids not black. If you really love yourself, you would want your kids to look like you.
Ummm there's speech of MJ stating his pride for his race,he even details moments of cultural appropriation in music and technology.
Don't know how people can debate against Michaels own words ?
MVP it is easy to debate Michael's own words. JUST LOOK AT HIS ACTIONS! Actions tell the truth more than words.
I know!!! So stupid like they knew him personally to tell what was going on his life, the truth is he always said he was a proud black man.
@@vufsh4004 - and MVP Magazine Saying something to appease people is not the same as doing....
1. Actions speak louder than words. Debbie Rowe said on ABC TV, "MJ wanted children with blond hair and blue eyes. where is the black pride in this?????....abcnews.go.com/Primetime/MichaelJackson/story?id=8023028&page=1
Michael turned into an OREO. Living in LA seems to brainwash a lot of black celebrities. Lil kim, Sammy Sousa, Pepa from salt n pepa, bleached all the melanin out of their skin.
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valvacious - So him wishing for that means he hated being black. We all wish some features on our kids and own faces that are foreign to us so does that make us lose pride for our own race? For example if I'm white and wanted green eyes on my black child, does that make me not like the white race? I could go on with this you know.
valvacious - It's called cream genius. He used that shit to even out his skin and was even said by his own longtime makeup artist, Karen Faye. Make up a valid argument atleast.
I dont think Michael hated his blackness
He had a skin disorder called vitiligo
@@cookietales7966 he NEVER made it made major until he whitened his skin, when he was black he was just Talented singer, it wasn't a skin disorder, they made it up,
@@breaks3085 nah mike was already big aswell after off the wall and thriller and his skin was darker so and thriller is his most popular And most sold album of his career and his skin was darker during that period so why do u think 🤔 he didn’t have that skin disease huh?
@LonerBlack66 so they can't be mixed? what's your point🤷♂️?
@@breaks3085 Oh for God sake there are pictures on the internet which prove that he had Vitiligo and it was also mentioned in his autopsy report
Michael Jackson did have a skin disease it don't matter man Michael Jackson still the most influential artist ever when he was alive and now after his death the greatest ever to me as an artist #TheKingOfPop #RIPMichaelJackson #Facts
@Jerry Williams the dude Steve is stupid bro
@Jerry Williams he did have vitiligo if you were blind to see it in the comment
Fuck off with your nonsense
It's not just the skin that changed he changed every thing that shows that he is black his nose shape his lips his hair
@@stayhappy9032he didn’t like his nose so what? And are we forgetting his hair caught on fire?
I feel like Joe had good intentions, but he got carried away with wanting his kids to be successful, so he basically robbed them of having a normal childhood, without realizing the emotional trauma he's giving them.
This attitude isn't too uncommon in the black community.
This makes a lot more sense. It seems that he obviously wanted better for his family but he was too harsh about it. Sure his kids came out successful in the end, especially with Michael and Janet. But, trauma was given in return, ESPECIALLY with Michael. Not to mention him having a daughter outside the marriage. The guy created good and bad. 🤷🏽♂️
The world killed MJ!
MJ was Cloned
Bruno Aka Bap Pedro aka Monky no he wasn't
Getta Stark llumanti killed him
*He killed Himself by removing obvious Reality from his own Mind*
The World can not kill a person such as Michael Jackson.. He thought over us.. Human beings aren't exempt of judgement, responsible thinking, or actions..
He was a Talented White Guy in the End
no.. the media killed mj
Sat next to a pathologist on the plane once, I asked him how vitiligo would be determined on someone like MJ who was almost completely white. He said there is no way to determine other than visual and being that he bleached his whole body the pathologist who worked on him went along with his medical records, they weren't gonna sit there and try to uncover why a black man turned white, the priority is cause of death. The biggest evidence that MJ didn't have vitiligo and was whitening his skin is his own family, particularly Jermaine who openly criticized it in the beginning. Once on an interview 80s, on his book and he even made a song. You'd think his family would know he had some a problem. It's too embarrassing for the family so they went along with Michael's lie. Some of his fans like to use pictures where sweat, lighting and make-up is created lighter spots to prove it, others literally photoshop white spots on him but there is no video or photo evidence of MJ vitiligo. Lets face it MJ was a Europhile, he was obsessed with Peter Pan, hung out with white boys, adopted white kids.
Of course, anytime he got in trouble he revert back to pro-black talk that way black ppl would have his back. But where was all that pro black shit all those years when everything was on the up and up?
@XXX TENTACION Never said he hated Africa or blackness. He just didn't want to be black. You can read that in Jermaine's book, his own brother.
🎯 💯 He spoke one thing out of his mouth but did the opposite! He did not want to be BLACK!
That pathologist is an asshole who doesn't know anything
I don't think what Joe did was unusual for the time. I don't know why people can't understand that.
Exactly! All the rest of the family members came to Joe's defense except Latoya. Come on... An ass whipping? Then... A family of 10?! You know somebody gonna get hit.
just because something wasnt "unusual for the time" doesnt mean it was good. Thats not an excuse. Abuse is abuse
I wonder what he would say now after this scene that supposedly happened between Janet Jackson and Bobby Brown. Janet said her father didn't want her to date or bring home no black man. Self hate, especially in the black community is a passed down thing from older members in our families from a VERY young age. Mothers, fathers, aunts, uncles l, grandparents, have said and done thing to influence the children they are around. Aince chattle slavery Black people have endured names like, black gal, tar baby roach, African booty scratcher, the paper bag test, even popular saying like if you're, black get back. Although they became rich, the Jacksons were not and are not exempt from the effects of how MANY blacks felt about themselves during racial discrimination in our country. The entire family has suffered just in different ways. I'm not saying Michael didn't or couldn't have been affected but he was not more affected than his own father who clearly had a problem with darker skin. And what about the black men who currently will only date a black woman IF she's on the fair skin side with European features but label it as "preference" negating that preference can and often do stem from OLD self hate characteristics that has been passed down throughout the generations? It's only self hate if you change your skin color but never when you dodge procreating with someone who looks like you? Got it!
SN: Vitiligo is a thing.
MJ said on many of his interviews that he was proud to be black and from what Lord Jamar says I believe him if Katherine dies her death is gonna be overshadowed over Joe's I believe that 💯 and when Joe passed nobody really didn't care if it wasn't for him his kids wouldn't be were they are now
Love that he brought up the dads leaving thing.
And took a second to say "white guys too"
My dad left me and my mom like a chump.
Made me an angry kid.
And in a way bitter adult with a lot of things.
That part was a shared pain moment for me for sure.
Got me all emotional enough to take a second to post
Everyone who knew him said he was MORE THAN PROUD OF BEING BLACK Michael said it himself he was very proud of being black he had a skin disorder called vitiligo which causes the skin to lose pigment and it's scientifically proven that stress and sadness will speed up the process of skin losing pigmentation. Michael was a person proud of his race .....
I finally disagree with Lord Jamar lol. It’s not a debate about MJ and his blackness. He was surely a proud black man who struggled with puberty more than being black lol. And TRUE Jackson fans know how important Joe was to the boys.
@Jerry Williams Wrong, he had no preference. He didn't want white kids, he just wanted to have kids in general. Plus, his one son is biological.
@Jerry Williams No that's not clearly what he wanted who tf are you??? YOU DONT KNOW HIM EITHER!!! Stop passing your assumption as fact. You can't just go by actions just like that other person said. Maybe this is a dumb example but that's like if I kicked a dog and you said "I hate you for kicking that dog" but what if the dog tried to kill me? You have to know the reasoning or at least look into it. You can't just go based on what YOU see. Debbie Rowe offered to give him 2 children, that's all. And MJ has 1 bio child too.
@Jerry Williams What is with you and the "because you knew him" YOU DONT KNOW HIM EITHER! Who fucking cares that he adopted 2 white kids! It's not a big deal! His friend Debbie Rowe OFFERED to give him kids. And the one son that is his, his mother was a surrogate and apparently she's native american. He looks a lot like MJ, very strong Jackson features.
@Jerry Williams you dont know him either becoz he said he wanted to adopt 2 children from each continent so clearly he didnt have a preference
@Jerry Williams so now adopting kids from all 7 contents is a preference shut yo pussy ass up
Mike definitely didn't like his blackness at first ..... But after many years he began to realize how he truly needed his blackness and slowly went back to consciousness ..... Too bad he remembered too late tho ...R.I.P. MJ
Since he was a little boy they were prepping M.J to Evolve or try to Evolve into a Caucasian.The lighter his skin got the more he was Accepted around the World!!!
RIP Michael Jackson
Michael definitely didn't like his own blackness. He didn't have Vitiligo because Vitiligo occurs in spotty patches, not in entire body sections. The first year, his face was white, but his hands were black. The next, he's entirely white? Vitiligo doesn't look like that; he lied. Even Quincy Jones knew and was against him using chemical peels. Also, what made him get a nose job the first time? If he liked the first one, why'd he change it? Why did all the Jacksons change 'em?
He did have vitiligo. The doctors said it himself. Also he said . He loved being black . He donated 1 million to African charities.
And black people talked about that man like a dog
It is true, that to a degree King Michael hated his blackness. However, he didnt hate black people. He was a perfectionist who was constantly trying to achieve what he thought was perfect. Its truly a shame he didnt truly how great he was. RIP King of Pop
utter bullshit.... he was always proud of his blackness 100 percent...
The only black king of pop and Jamal mad....and vlad broke
Truth hurts, huh Infidel?
I think just like we still argue rather Cleopatra was black or not 1000 years from now they will contemplate on MJ
Yea yea yea like I said you don't know she had Greek blood don't we all!
Do you no how hot Egypt is? If that's the case black is Greek foh who cares tho? I don't I no she was apart of me regardless cause I have the same attitude
Hebrew Kang smh Hebrews I bet you Hebrews were bkack
Its not like there is videos and pictures of Michael Jackson of being black
Wait.....
Michael had vitiligo people forget that his skin bleaching was him trying to look normal and not have blochey discolored skin vitiligo Google it...
@SugarFree it shouldn't be up for debate that's wat it is
I feel like he could've covered the light patches of skin with make up or something, but maybe the vitiligo spread on his body so bad that he couldn't.
You all ARE LIARS THEY EXTRACTED HIS MELANIN. MY 3RD EYE BEEN OPEN I KNOW THE TRUTH! Foh
How do you explain the Caucasian nose, rose cheeks, chin cleft and hair? Was that vitiligo too? He is the only black person I have ever seen the matched the white patches instead of the brown that remained.
JamesEarlMoans Exactly.
Anybody who has watched Mike’s Oprah Interview knows that 1. He had a skin condition and 2. He was VERY proud of his blackness. Lord Jamar a.k.a Mr. Form My Thumbs Into a Pyramid like a Mason is wrong. And it’s arrogant to speak on someone you have no intimate experience with. God bless the dead, leave Michael Jackson alone. Peace
proud yet would bleach his skin and wear straight wigs even got nose surgery and you want me to believe he was proud to be black lol
@@pixie77531 you can't even say for sure you never even met him stupid
Saying you love blackness is one thing but never really seeing it another Thing and mike never ever really show it.
"Mike never really show it" I'm sorry sweetie Mike of Jackson 5 and Michael Jackson of "Thriller" 😂 Let's ALL just *forget* all the songs he wrote when he turn White due to *_(VITILIGO)_* and his MVs showing Equality , Racism , Black Excellence and Beauty : _"They Don't Care About Us"_ , _"Black or White"_ _"Liberian Girl"_ , _"Remember the Time"_ , _"JAm"_ all those song don't Exist people it's just part of our Imagination🙅🙅🙅
Are you kidding me? He never showed it?
Black or White? The Panther Dance?
The all-black cast of Remember The Time, a film depicting Ancient Egypt?
Liberian Girl? A song dedicated to the beauty of black women?
In The Closet?
They Don't Care About Us?
Bruh stop talking about sh*t you don't know about.
@@Zzucia i grew on JACKSON 5 from ABC to invisible" I'm pretty sure I know just what I'm talking about "granted when his conscious spoke to him until he wanted to believe in a dream "
@@themadblackking4687 No, you clearly don't know what you're talking about if you're claiming Michael Jackson never really showed love for his race.
mad blackstar you called the album invisible, shows me you don’t know shit
What I like about these shows is that Michael Jackson is always gonna be a topic of discussion, and whether it’s negative the discussion will go on and if positive it will stop. But what I’ve mainly realized is that people that were on the same level of Michael spoke positively about him, and these other people who spoke negatively, never really made it big, like I’ve only heard of this Lord Jamar now🤣
Like I said in the Godfrey video people need to discuss self hatred more
I respect him for his music but his personal life sucked. Why couldn't he marry and a black woman and pass on his legacy.
Thats his preference that don't mean he hate himself
Michael Jackson loved being black period
If you listen to his old interviews, dude was all about black empowerment.
But you're 100% correct about the powers that be not giving Joe Jackson his props. The man is one of the greatest visionaries of our time and should not be overlooked. RIP Joe Jackson real MJ fans don't hate him for what he did.
Nahhh, this ain't it Jamar. You're 100% wrong here
Na na hes right brah
It’s white people and non black people that don’t agree .
Samir Ra Bashir I don’t know what you meant but I’m black and Mj did not hate his blackness. He had a skin disorder. Also he said that he would hate it if a white little boy would play him.
@@samirrabashir2100 exactly
"Michael hated his blackness." - He has stated countless times he is a black american and PROUD to be. This is a man that has donated more to the NAACP and to Africa more than any other celebrity. Has even talked about forms of black dancing have been stolen by whites in the past.
"He straightened his hair" - Prince, Snoop, and other black males with long hair have done it before. Black women do it all the time and sometimes even dye it blonde. But crickets on their "blackness"
"he had a white wife and white kids". - Plenty of interracial marriages here in the US. Marry who you love, not who society assigns you to. Michael dropped "Remember the time" and "they dont care about us" the same time he was with Lisa Marie Presley.
Actions speak louder than words. I agree with jamar it's obvious bro
@@greenspidey MJ had vitilogo
Harshit Patnaik you don’t change your features to being European because you like being black, yes he had vitiligo that’s been acknowledged now what?
@@greenspidey If actions speak louder than words, then MJ never hated his blackness. Read again everything he did with the NAACP along with the messages about black talent and the racism in this country. Blackness is more than just superficial looks.
Doesn't mean he didn't think his black features where ugly...black woman will say they proud black woman but will still cover they head with weaves
Respect Lord Jamar but disagree with this. Mike said several times he was proud of his blackness....
Ronald Wilson We all say things.
*But what did he show you*
@Jerry Williams Againnnn you are wrong, don't know how many times I have to reply to you on all these comments, looks like you're just a troll. He had no preference. And his one son is biological.
@@eliharris6349 he showed the world he wanted to be white.
@@thedarkknight4956 exactly
Dumb ass not because some one say something mean its true, his actions show he hated being black
If he hated his blackness, why did he have so many black kids in his music videos?? What about all the black female models??? What about visiting black kids in other countries and hospitals?? What about all the young black artist from Teddy Riley to Biggie that he put on his albums??? Man Y'all don't know nothing about Michael...
Mrheretosaveyourday how many black kids did he adopt? How many black women did he date?
@@kennylafortune2107 right 😂😂😂😂
"DONT PUT YOUR ARM ROUND ME!" LMAOOOO
It doesn't take a genius to figure out he didn't like being black.
"I actually met Joe Jackson..." Well, of course, Vlad.
Great interview.
Yo I’m over here crying when he said Joe Jackson whipped their asses Straight 😂
_"As He (MJ) Got _*_Whiter_*_ ,_
_His Music got _*_BLACKER_*_ "_ 👑
There's alot of Video and article talks about this topic . #TheKing
_"They don't Care about Us"_ Radio station Ban this song / Racism
_"Black or White"_ - Racial Equality
_"Liberian Girl"_ - Black Woman
_"Remember the Time"_ - MV portray Black people as True Ancient Egyptian
_"JAM"_ - Black Excellence
Lord Jamar telling the truth, our young black men don't have Joe Jacksons or Lavar Balls in their early lives man💔
I think Lord Jamar is basing his opinion off of what others and the media have said about Michael and not what was directly said out of Michael’s mouth and in his art. In an interview Michael did with Oprah, which is the most viewed televised interview ever with 90 million viewers (almost as many people who watch the Super Bowl) Michael set the record straight about loving his blackness and being offended if a white person played him in a movie. Anybody trying to neglect their blackness would not get up on a HUGE platform and preach about how much they love their blackness and criticize people who would think to use white actors to play him. Then also if you look at his art in almost every one of his videos ( Thriller, The Way You Make Me Feel, Remember the Time, Keep it in the Closet, Rock my World) He has a black woman as his love interest, which showed the diversity in black beauty in women. Then he has videos like Bad, They Don’t Really Care About Us, Black or White etc. that talked about black issues. In that Remember the Time video, Michael put together an all black cast to portray Egyptians the right way since Hollywood would always like to portray Egyptians as white when they were in fact black. Then in the Black or White Video there was a scene that was banned because it was too pro-Black (you can find it on UA-cam) where Michael addresses the KKK and usage of the N-word. That scene was banned at the time because the world was not ready for that yet and it was too “pro-Black”. Keep in mind Michael was being pro-Black in his art when it wasn’t trendy. So when I watched this interview I thought it was some bullshit because you can literally look at Michael’s art and watch his interviews and see this man did not hate his blackness. That’s why I take what Lord Jamar is saying with a grain of salt because the words directly out of Michael’s mouth and the messages Michael put in his art are more representative to who Michael was a person compared to what Lord Jamar( who doesn’t know MJ) has to say.
I love it when lord Jamar is on I could listen to him all day he's the realest man I know he tell the truth and nothing but.
Hard to not stop when I see Lord Jamar on the couch.
Damn finally someone keeps it real
If that was the case why would Mike say "He's a black man, why would I want a white man to play me"
I don't know exactly how bad his vitiligo was, but couldn't he have covered up the light patches of skin with make up or something?
Nah my grandma has it and she also basically turned white she was brown . Mexican
Абрам Bing Right, but it's different for everybody...your grandma may have turned completely white, but Michael might have only had a few patches of white.
He did just that. He wore makeup all the time. He hade light patches as early as Thriller era.
Karl Tanner If that's the case, why did he stop wearing dark make up and start lightening his skin to match the patches? Maybe he did want to be white.
My grandma has vitilligo too. It starts out as white spots that grow into patches and eventually all her melanin was gone. She went from brown skinned to whiter than the palest Caucasian. Shit crazy
That is such a good point about J Jackson, he stuck with his family and made something very special of them..yes he might have been very heavy handed but hey.. stress, poverty, racism in the 50 & 60. He deserves more respect for the good things he did.
I can see why Jamar has this point of view, but I believe Michael loved being black. I agree with the media coverage for the Mom and the powers that be hated Joe Jackson because he did what he did ✊I like the interview though ⚖️✊
I think we can all agree he cared for his people but he hated his blackness and his african features
bigsmooth2001 yeah, but only to the extent of him not liking who he got his features from
Shafferspeeks did he not like his mother because he was only linked romantically with white women
bigsmooth2001umm, I was talking about his distain towards his father and how he looked is what he didn't like about himself. And in regards to the women he was interested in, those were from what we've seen publicly, not privately. I'm pretty sure he loved his mother to death
Shafferspeeks well his blackness has to do with his love interests as well as why he didn’t want to have black children these all lead up to the fact he detested his blackness and wouldn’t want to pass it down.
Yall gon act like he ain’t say “ Mikcey “
The sky is blue and fish live in water. Tell us somethings don’t know 🤣🤣🤣
Gave up his melanin....sold his soul and that's why he suffered. And for all the haters we don't have the same melanin PHEOMELANIN AND EUMELANIN ARE DIFFERENT. THANK YOU!
Hebrew Kang nope that's you. You're talking about the melanin that gives you pigment. Lol you lack that as well. There are different types of melanin caucasoid, but you wouldn't know anything about that with that HIGH IQ and all. You know you built the pyramids right, but can't figure out how to make children to sustain your dying race(species) or figure out how NOT to burn in the sun. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Good riddance cavling!
Hebrew Kang if it was just about adaptation to weather we wouldn't be genetically superior to you. Lmao You have no soul caucasoid your time issa UP! Ummbye bye now😂👊
Hebrew Kang you obviously
The moral to the story is.....We are not the same. So called blacks are ORGANIC NATURAL CARBON BEINGS. Yeah, our pigmentation is important, but it's more than that. It has always been about genetics and spirituality this whole time. Actually pales love our color not only does it protect us from uv radiation, but to them it look exotic. We really need to continue to wake up and realize who we are. If you're not an ORGANIC natural being you will be destroyed by fire. Even organic beings will be destroyed if they don't WAKE up and realize who they are and use their powers. You don't have to believe me JUST WATCH!
Hebrew Kang You really believe in that evolution or out of Africa theory? Are you 12? 😂
Let Legend Rest In Peace!
Not only did his skin get whiter but he straightened his hair all the time
//// he didn’t straighten his hair, he wore wigs. I suggest you read his autopsy.
He hade vitiligo and he wore wigs because of his getting burnt in the 80s.
He hade vitiligo and he wore wigs because of his getting burnt in the 80s.
Lord Jamar Believes That Michael Jackson Hated His Blackness and I believe that too. MJ wanted to be a white woman >>>>> i.pinimg.com/originals/e7/18/f0/e718f02061316c3df0fc535a0add1416.jpg
Don't forget the nose.
Who else liked from Lord Jamar's response to the very first question?
I'm black,and i am proud of Michael Joe Jackson.RIP Mike.
Are you fucking kidding me? Joseph Jackson is an awful man. He beat the hell out of those kids for no reason at all. Missing a dance move = getting thrown up against the wall, and you think that's okay? Michael was 4 and Joe was punching him like a grown ass man. If that's "a strong black man" Them I don't EVER meet one.
ok So maybe he had vitiliago? But Explain the cleft chin, the straight hair, and the nose surgery, and the White wife and the White kids but I'm supposed to believe he loved being BLACK?
The straight hair was wigs that he had to wear because he suffered 3rd degree burns to his scalp and was no longer able to grow his own hair, the cleft chin? So what? The white wife? Why is that any of your business? He dated black women too, the song black or white should tell you enough that he loved all races and the white children? How so? Did you do a DNA test on them? One of his kids has vitiligo like him and the youngest one is his twin. Read a book on genetics you may learn a lot. The nose surgery was because he broke it the first time and had to have it fixed then a second time so that he could breath better. Hope this comment explains it
No he wasn’t he was proud of being black. I’m tired of people sayin he wanted to be white and hated his scones when he himself said he was a proud black American.
ENOCHSZUNXXXL I think he was afraid of passing his disease to his real kids...and those white women were put into place by the infrastructure.
Cleft chin equals wanting to be white now? He did his nose because he didn't like having a big nose, simple, doesn't mean he hated his nose for "looking black". Also plenty of black artists wear straight hair, doesn't equal wanting to be white. He even went back to curly hair in 2009. And his one child is biological, the other 2 were a sort of gift from his friend Debbie Rowe, she wanted to give him children. MJ was proud to be black. Please watch this video if you still doubt it: ua-cam.com/video/KwNtIz1px5Y/v-deo.html
@@jessicaj8083 You're very wrong, get educated you sheep
Don’t speak on Michael if you can’t even get your facts right. Leave Michael alone.
I call Bullshit on this. Lord Jamar is talking out of his ass now. Michael is one of the Blackest artists around and did more for black entertainers than any other black artist.
@Directruth actually it does. If you have self-hatred you are far less likely to do anything to help ppl who look like you.
Michael didn't hate being Black, he hated his look... He always said he loved his culture...
Y'all didn't deserve to meet any of the Jacksons.
I love your interviews but my one pet peeve is the sound quality of the mics, your voice is always loud and their voices are always quiet, except Jamar when he yells “YA KNOW WHAT I MEAN?!?”
Some would say MJ did more for blacks than these two will ever do. 🤷🏾♂️🚶🏾♂️
MICHAEL EVEN SAID TO OPRAH HE WOULD NOT LIKE A WHITE PERSON TO PLAY HIM IN A MOVIE AND IT FKCNG HURTED HIM THAT PEOPLE THOUGHT HE DIDNT WANT TO BE BLACK... MAAAAN LEAVE HIM ALONE.
Nah man he hated his nose not his skin color
rdam west those are black attributes...
No michael jackson accident his nose 1979
Ion think it had nothing to do with Him being black he didn’t like the way he looked period . well at least his nose .once he got that changed I think he was fine with the way he looked until he got that skin thing which made his skin patches so he tried putting make up to even out until it got too bad so he said fuck it and decided to even it out. The curly hair was the style back then and became his trademark so that’s why he never got rid of it plus he burned the top of his scalp so it was easier to keep his texturized or straight so he could blend in his hair . As far as the kid thing I think he never got to be a kid so he wanted to still live out his youth , kids don’t judge or care what they say . Let’s not forget it was mj most people were on pins and needles around him and couldn’t behave normal in his presence. I believe that’s why he liked people like Chris tucker and Eddie Murphy case they don’t care and say anything cause that’s what comedians do
Mic jackson was my idol as a kid. I really thought i was micheal back in the day. But man as i got older i realize dude had some self hate issues. Even if his skin did change from a diesease he still tried to get a nose job cause he had self hate and he wore his hair like a middle age white women. Why not keep the afro or rock some braids or locs and this man literally has white kids walking arounr claiming they came from him.
Vitiligo is VERY real, and there is solud evidence that he did have it.
Many celebrities,black or white, get nose jobs.
He wore wigs because hes scalp was literally burnt during the pepsi commercial.
This true he really wanted to be white
Boss Breezy / how do you know what he wanted to be.
He hade a skin disorder called Vitiligo. Don't be ignorant
Lord Jamar Believes That Michael Jackson Hated His Blackness and I believe that too. MJ wanted to be a white woman >>>>> i.pinimg.com/originals/e7/18/f0/e718f02061316c3df0fc535a0add1416.jpg
Your comment made me think about the barbershop scene in coming to America..lol immediately picture them saying this
Fake skin disease, 20 nose jobs, facial reconstruction surgery, fake ass white kids, never with a black women. Of course he hated his blackness that's why I call him white mike
Michael Jackson had problems with his Blackness. That is true.
But you have to blame Joe Jackson, Bobby Taylor and Billy Preston for why he did...
No, no one is to blame for Michal's issues with his blackness. Get real. Joe had nothing to do with that. That's all Michael trying to appease people in the industry.
micheal probably hated everything about himself, he probably had a deep voice and spoke differently
will smith as a strong dad over joe and lavar lol
simplyrecommended if you listen to the intro of You Rock My World with Chris Tucker, you can actually hear how deep his voice truly is. I actually didn’t know it was him until recently. By recently I mean last year.
he did have a deep voice lol, he was just putting on that soft spoken voice
This is the funniest lord Jamar video but the most facts in it
I think he did hated his blackness, people often bring the vitiligo thing and they are fans and understandably so he wasvan amazing musician. But it is not only the vitiligo, it's the nose and the other surgeries, the straight hair...he was the male version of lil kim.
MIKE HATED HIS DAD FOR BEATING THE HELL OUT OF HIM AND WANTED TO LOOK NOTHING LIKE HIM . HE ALSO WANTED TO BE DIFFERENT THEN EVERYBODY OBVIOUSLY THE WAY HE DRESSED AND PERFORMED IS LIKE NO OTHER .
ctnative203 them boys probably got belt ass whipping he was soft us hood kids got beaten 80s babies
I respect lord jamar. But sometimes he just says stuff that is unsubstantiated. Which makes alot of points he says that actually make sense look like they are unsubstantiated aswell. It undermines his credibility. Because he says all those things with the same amount of confidence. For an example: Child abuse is not a good thing. Even IF that creates the outcome that the abused kids became successful. Michael has told stories of being thrown through the air against walls. That = child abuse.
You can't call that "a good ass whooping" and say it's not child abuse. This makes him look like a bitter oldhead that thinks everything was better during his own times. And can't accept his parents made mistakes due to ignorance.
Michael Jackson literally said on Oprah with his whole chest “I am a black American. I’m proud of my race. I’m proud of who I am.” PERIOD POINT BLANK. People tend to forget he said this. Many people also seem to forget that celebrities (especially their favorite black celebrities) getting nose jobs are a common thing, yet they are never scrutinized for it. Mj did break his nose in ‘79 which led to many reconstructive surgeries because he was experiencing breathing issues and wasn’t hitting high notes (no, he didn’t care for his nose either so he took this as an opportunity). In the same interview he said he had Vitiligo and he said it again in multiple other interviews. His brother Jermaine has it and so do the Jackson’s paternal grandfather. He used prescribed creams that ONLY PEOPLE WITH VITILIGO CAN USE to make the process of depigmentation go faster. People also tend to forget he talked about his burn injury he got back in the 80s, which resorted to him wearing hair pieces (since they weren’t full wigs). He would alternate between straight and curly hair (he literally had curly hair right before he passed) but for some reason weirdos equate his straight hair pieces to him wanting to be white 😂. Some of y’all sound completely ridiculous. MJ’s first girlfriend and first huge crush were 2 BLACK women. Man had the finest black women in his videos. He supported and protested for other black exploited artists. Mj walked so your favorite black artists can run. He expressed his love of Africa many many times. I can literally go on and on. He was the epitome of blackness if anything. Coming from a black woman, yall make race wayyy too much of an issue and if you agree with this guy, you are part said issue.
Edit: Also let’s not forget MJ also had Lupus. What if he didn’t wanna spread that disease to his children? (His oldest son may have vitiligo like him so he’s questionable). Regardless have y’all even stopped and thought about that? No because “he just wanted to be white with white offspring”. Ignorance and laziness at its finest.
He didn't hate his Blackness he sacrificed his blackness in order to become the world's biggest star..... Humanity loves to see transformation
Brother Om Tired of this sacrifice!!
Brother Om what the fuck is you talking about??
Tamera Lynn the real question is what in the Fuck did he do to his skin in order to be a super star...???
@@realpeopleoftheinternet He had vitiligo, it's in his damn autopsy. He wore black makeup during Thriller but the vitiligo got so extensive that he started wearing white makeup and started bleaching his face to even it out.
He did not hate his blackness
You all have to put into perspective Michael's mind state. A lot of you are saying he wanted to be white not knowing how MJ didn't even have a normal life like other people growing up. He was built into a star since he was a little child. All he wanted to do was look normal and with his situation, *whatever HE felt was normal* to his condition, he did whatever he could. You all don't know what you would do if you had the same skin condition. It's easy to say it when you're living whats considered normal. "The narrowing of the nose and lips were also due to vitiligo?" - comments. Michael isn't the only person in his family with alterations. It was about whatever HE thought made him look decent with what he had, not "look white".
He was a huge pop star, always being looked at. He stated over and over about his blackness and that no one had to tell him that. Check his videos. He did what he could while trying to maintain his changing appearance. A pop star would probably commit suicide if they had Mike's problem. It takes a lot to actually *live as Michael Jackson*. It's nothing to criticize him. They lied on him about child abuse to get paid and after his death, they admitted they lied for money. His long sleeves, his neck cover on his uniforms, his famous glove - all to hide his condition.
There are others in the comments telling you their experiences and you still repeat the same questions down the page.
Lot's of Black that age and older had hard lives, but the one thing they never did was disown their Blackness! James Brown childhood was 10× worse than Michael!
Beating your kids during rehearsals is not good parenting . You’re supposed to make mistakes during rehearsals lol
MJ was for the people no matter what color he looked man stood for all
Hated & confused are 2 different things .. His idols James Brown, Jackie Wilson, Diana Ross, David Ruffin, The Isley Brothers ect were unapologetic about their skin hue. Michael was unique & with being that unique with being a child star must have lead to mental confusion BUT being in his last years his mentor was the OG comedian and activist "Dick Gregory" No way in hell he would have hated "Self" around his mentors
Glad my pops ain’t never dipped on me
Even though his kids became successful it doesn’t erase the fact that he abused them.
Abused them how?