As a musician who has struggled for many years in a city that is home to some of the biggest names of the rock era, I can tell you first hand that exposure is the key ingredient. But exposure means some club owner, or venue owner, looking at his/her finances and deciding that spending X-dollars on a band is a better investment than spending Y-dollars on a DJ. Usually, the DJ wins out because Y is less than X. The other option is the willingness of band members to put in the time and effort necessary to have a 3 to 4-hour gig, but get paid next to nothing for it. Week after week, until you garner a big following or hit that lucky jackpot with an A&R person in the audience when you're hitting your stride. There's some exceptional talent that never gets 'discovered', and a lot of average talent that hits it big.
I really think the insane cost of going out has been what really hurt seeing live music. I mean, people could stay home and for a few dollars a month watch countless shows on their smart TV's snuggled up with their significant loved ones or they could go to some bar and pay $8 a drink and worry about getting a DUI to see some random local band perform. Hmm it's not hard to see why local music is hurting these days.
this is true, but me personally there is the whole experience of meeting like minded people, meeting girls, doing drugs, and the live experience is not the same as tv. There are a lot of less known bands here in Ohio who have a fairly large following. One band I saw in particular had a small festival of 4000 people. The age range was pretty even across the board.
ASCAP and other publishers shut down a lot of live music venues. Open mic night at coffee houses get phone calls threatening legal action in many instances.
Depends on if the musicians are doing original music or cover songs. Unfortunately for these venues, copyright protections mean they can be forced to pay royalties for musicians doing cover music.
@@vanessajazp6341 business owners get the phone calls whether they can prove someone did a copyrighted song or not. They assumed at some point someone did and send a threatening letter. Technically you need to pay ASCAP for the radio jukeboxes etc but for some reason open mic is a big target.
@@vanessajazp6341 if your point is that is what the law says, you still need to prove it in court if you are being sued. And defense attorney costs money. So most businesses may just not bother.
I just posted a comment about this exact thing! Three small venues in my town are no longer hosting (one decided to not do it because of the licensing mandated on the other two places).
The only interesting things you could get to know by me telling you where I'm from (assuming you were mainly going for getting to know the country I live in) would be wich laws I live under and slightly grasping under wich circumstances I have developed, wich part of society I belong to to say so. Politics annoy me and I do not identify in any way with the country I live in/ I am not patriotic in any form. So there should be no reason for a random guy on the internet to ask me where I'm from, it should not matter.
I live in a rural community that generally does not support live music. Recently, two restaurants tried hosting local acoustic acts and got visits from a licensing agency. They either had to pay a licensing fee or stop the music. Both eateries are small, struggling, and thought music might help sell a few more entrees. It was helping a little. Neither decided to get the license. We also have a brand new used book store/coffee shop that had hoped to host open mics but that is now on hold due to the situation the restaurants faced. I'm not against writers and artists getting paid but it seems corporate music is digging its reach even deeper, preventing small venues from hosting a singer, guitar player without it costing too much money.
Unfortunately there are too many local councils in the UK who would rather have ghost towns because the police are too lazy to do their jobs often advising licensing boards to deny businesses permission to expand thus leading to said ghost towns instead of vibrant social communities.
@Leepshin, Thanks for that insight. Upsettingly, I know there's a *lot* of social/governmental discord and misery for the masses there presently. Do you happen to know what the best U.K. cities for music are these days, please? Are there any actual music scenes worth a damn in the U.K. anymore?
@@OakleyANDSittingBull That is a question even Google would struggle to provide results for. It's an utter travesty considering the talent the UK has going to waste and being squandered by reality tv because musicians think that's the only option left open to them. In the words of the old early 80's Specials hit the whole of the UK is "living in a ghost town".
I see a lot of pessimism here. Pessimism never created anything. If you are a musician, it is time to take the tools taught here and use them. You need to move out of the spare room in your house. Contact people, coffee shops, restaurants and take the chance. I get a lot of "no's", then I walk over and knock on the next door. Rejection is part of creation. You will find places that want to see, hear, and be involved in the creation. Find other people who will create with you. It isn't easy to make money at all the gig's. There you have to make a choice, love to play, play for tips, work your way up to the paying gig's. Or don't play at all.
TED, you should SERIOUSLY put up a warning when you're posting a TEDx keynote vs an actual TED presentation. Most of your subscribers can already tell a difference in quality between actual TED presentations and independent TEDx. Most of this presentation is "GUESS WHAT, MUSIC IS IMPORTANT".
Sounds like the Europeans are way ahead of us again. Well, Joseph Campbell pointed out that in Europe, the streets are named after great poets, writers, musicians philosophers etc. While in America, the streets are named after businessmen. You can do the math Let’s follow the advice in this video, and maybe America can regain its soul!
The city full of haters. Why u think Atalanta been on top the whole Time. No one wanna help each other. Like u said at the beginning we have the internet now, everyone for themselves
Music scene is bottom up, not top down. The more you manage it, the less authentic it becomes. Ban music all together in your city, if you want vibrant underground music.
I dont get where she takes her evidence for her improvements. Look at Detroit as an exmple. Did the governmet put any effort into nurishing the music scene? Nope. Is/was Detroit a major city for a generation and many genres of music? Yes. Did she mention any citys or communitys in which her way of helping musicians worked just like her Idea?
I had a music production company for 8 years with my girlfriend. At that time I tried to build a scene in my town and I documented it well it didn't work but I had a lot of fun trying I live in Allentown Pennsylvania I'm high
I wrote those songs. And, I can create lightning in a bottle. I can create #1 hit after another. But I see a shark. This is a person you should not trust with your business
Whatever anyone else thinks, as a musician I am very happy TED chose to let someone talk about this. Local music is so important.
As a musician who has struggled for many years in a city that is home to some of the biggest names of the rock era, I can tell you first hand that exposure is the key ingredient. But exposure means some club owner, or venue owner, looking at his/her finances and deciding that spending X-dollars on a band is a better investment than spending Y-dollars on a DJ. Usually, the DJ wins out because Y is less than X. The other option is the willingness of band members to put in the time and effort necessary to have a 3 to 4-hour gig, but get paid next to nothing for it. Week after week, until you garner a big following or hit that lucky jackpot with an A&R person in the audience when you're hitting your stride.
There's some exceptional talent that never gets 'discovered', and a lot of average talent that hits it big.
Shout out to Bon Iver and my college town of Eau Claire, Wisconsin!
That's where my dad went to college no way!
I really think the insane cost of going out has been what really hurt seeing live music. I mean, people could stay home and for a few dollars a month watch countless shows on their smart TV's snuggled up with their significant loved ones or they could go to some bar and pay $8 a drink and worry about getting a DUI to see some random local band perform. Hmm it's not hard to see why local music is hurting these days.
this is true, but me personally there is the whole experience of meeting like minded people, meeting girls, doing drugs, and the live experience is not the same as tv. There are a lot of less known bands here in Ohio who have a fairly large following. One band I saw in particular had a small festival of 4000 people. The age range was pretty even across the board.
I find it amazing that everything I'm looking for can be found in Ted Talks hahaha
ASCAP and other publishers shut down a lot of live music venues. Open mic night at coffee houses get phone calls threatening legal action in many instances.
Depends on if the musicians are doing original music or cover songs. Unfortunately for these venues, copyright protections mean they can be forced to pay royalties for musicians doing cover music.
@@vanessajazp6341 business owners get the phone calls whether they can prove someone did a copyrighted song or not. They assumed at some point someone did and send a threatening letter. Technically you need to pay ASCAP for the radio jukeboxes etc but for some reason open mic is a big target.
@@vanessajazp6341 if your point is that is what the law says, you still need to prove it in court if you are being sued. And defense attorney costs money. So most businesses may just not bother.
I just posted a comment about this exact thing! Three small venues in my town are no longer hosting (one decided to not do it because of the licensing mandated on the other two places).
Sadly I don't own a city.
But what if we build a city on rock and roll?
Nah, probably too much responsibility.
Just an internet-alias, does it matter where I'm from?
The only interesting things you could get to know by me telling you where I'm from (assuming you were mainly going for getting to know the country I live in) would be wich laws I live under and slightly grasping under wich circumstances I have developed, wich part of society I belong to to say so. Politics annoy me and I do not identify in any way with the country I live in/ I am not patriotic in any form. So there should be no reason for a random guy on the internet to ask me where I'm from, it should not matter.
Then go ahead and present me the full analysis of my name, also, why would I want to own a city?
Awesome talk. I couldn't have said it better myself, and I've been trying to for 11 years now.
Very insightful.
I live in a rural community that generally does not support live music. Recently, two restaurants tried hosting local acoustic acts and got visits from a licensing agency. They either had to pay a licensing fee or stop the music. Both eateries are small, struggling, and thought music might help sell a few more entrees. It was helping a little. Neither decided to get the license.
We also have a brand new used book store/coffee shop that had hoped to host open mics but that is now on hold due to the situation the restaurants faced. I'm not against writers and artists getting paid but it seems corporate music is digging its reach even deeper, preventing small venues from hosting a singer, guitar player without it costing too much money.
Great. Each one of us who watch this will be able to convince of our city's to watch this
She doesn't mention the most important music asset. Rehearsal studios
Unfortunately there are too many local councils in the UK who would rather have ghost towns because the police are too lazy to do their jobs often advising licensing boards to deny businesses permission to expand thus leading to said ghost towns instead of vibrant social communities.
@Leepshin,
Thanks for that insight. Upsettingly, I know there's a *lot* of social/governmental discord and misery for the masses there presently.
Do you happen to know what the best U.K. cities for music are these days, please?
Are there any actual music scenes worth a damn in the U.K. anymore?
@@OakleyANDSittingBull That is a question even Google would struggle to provide results for. It's an utter travesty considering the talent the UK has going to waste and being squandered by reality tv because musicians think that's the only option left open to them. In the words of the old early 80's Specials hit the whole of the UK is "living in a ghost town".
Portland Oregon USA 97205 October 2018 thanks for keeping it real.
Heroin also makes good music
I see a lot of pessimism here. Pessimism never created anything. If you are a musician, it is time to take the tools taught here and use them. You need to move out of the spare room in your house. Contact people, coffee shops, restaurants and take the chance. I get a lot of "no's", then I walk over and knock on the next door. Rejection is part of creation. You will find places that want to see, hear, and be involved in the creation. Find other people who will create with you. It isn't easy to make money at all the gig's. There you have to make a choice, love to play, play for tips, work your way up to the paying gig's. Or don't play at all.
Nice talk
Thanks Ted..
i wish i knew how to grow a thriving fungal community in my bathtub
TED, you should SERIOUSLY put up a warning when you're posting a TEDx keynote vs an actual TED presentation. Most of your subscribers can already tell a difference in quality between actual TED presentations and independent TEDx.
Most of this presentation is "GUESS WHAT, MUSIC IS IMPORTANT".
Best video EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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well, england is my city...
Sounds like the Europeans are way ahead of us again. Well, Joseph Campbell pointed out that in Europe, the streets are named after great poets, writers, musicians philosophers etc. While in America, the streets are named after businessmen. You can do the math Let’s follow the advice in this video, and maybe America can regain its soul!
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The city full of haters. Why u think Atalanta been on top the whole
Time. No one wanna help each other. Like u said at the beginning we have the internet now, everyone for themselves
OG Jawdinz I don't like it - everyone for themselves. It's sad.
Music scene is bottom up, not top down. The more you manage it, the less authentic it becomes. Ban music all together in your city, if you want vibrant underground music.
mhtinla that's just stupid
No... u stooooopid
For some reason, the movie "Footloose" comes to mind.
I dont get where she takes her evidence for her improvements. Look at Detroit as an exmple. Did the governmet put any effort into nurishing the music scene? Nope.
Is/was Detroit a major city for a generation and many genres of music? Yes.
Did she mention any citys or communitys in which her way of helping musicians worked just like her Idea?
Powerful music
Lil pump: *Existes*
So elect right people? Right
I live in Las Vegas- no need 😍
I had a music production company for 8 years with my girlfriend. At that time I tried to build a scene in my town and I documented it well it didn't work but I had a lot of fun trying I live in Allentown Pennsylvania I'm high
who's the target of this talk? A mayor or governor? I don't see the point...
I’m only here because my teacher wants me to get a TedTalk for class. If it wasn’t for him I wouldn’t be here
LOL I thought the background said TED Men.
Virtue Signal alot.
Very early
All is one
Aw DJ Tanner all growds up.
I wrote those songs. And, I can create lightning in a bottle. I can create #1 hit after another. But I see a shark. This is a person you should not trust with your business
Donald Harlan lol lol
Did you now?
realy :)
only good music has those positive qualities... terrible crappy music makes people dumb and places horrible places to be
yeah buy a record. sheesh.
Early
Blah Blah Blah. . . ZZZZZZZZ
Get rid of 13% "music"
Meh.