NUMBERS DONT LIE | Springboks vs All Blacks | Rugby World Cup Final Review

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  • @HakatimeRugby
    @HakatimeRugby  10 місяців тому +11

    This guy still sounds hungover 😂

    • @BillOsano
      @BillOsano 9 місяців тому +1

      Get the bigger guys moving? The amount of work put in by Malherbe PSdT Siya Deon Sous was superhuman. Phenomenal! Tackling defending scrummaging jumping fetching and getting cleaned out... what more can you make them do? That's not the issue

  • @normalcc
    @normalcc 10 місяців тому +105

    Here in NZ our main Press NZ Herald keeps stirring shit about the game. And the people are over it. We are telling the press to move on already, our sad tears have dried up and we’re happy our brothers from SA WON instead of anyone from NH. We are looking forward to playing them throughout the next 4 years buildidng up to the next World Cup…….. Congratulation Bokke!

  • @altaafkader9675
    @altaafkader9675 10 місяців тому +83

    I was also so happy to see Siya kolisi and Ardie Savea at the awards together and see how close they are. It's a testament to the Springbok all black rivalry

    • @user-pu3ns2dm7s
      @user-pu3ns2dm7s 9 місяців тому +1

      Totally agree. 2 absolute legends who remind us of what makes this sport so special. Rivalry and respect in equal measures.

  • @mauritspretorius3403
    @mauritspretorius3403 10 місяців тому +63

    As a Saffa my personal congratulations to you Zac as one of the most objective pundits that just continues to provide a level of evidence based analysis on all the finer aspects of the game beyond most others. You bring amasing perspectives to a game.

    • @williamboulter8134
      @williamboulter8134 9 місяців тому +1

      From another Saffa, I 100% agree. Zac - you are awesome

  • @InconvenientRob
    @InconvenientRob 10 місяців тому +103

    This is what a proper analysis looks like. There were so many moments that could have changed the game and at the end of the day, NZ had the chance to take the lead twice but didn't convert. Both teams deserved to win. I'm a Bok supporter and I thought after the red card and the fact we kept them out during the first quarter which is generally when the ABs hammer teams - just like they did to us in NZ - , that we had the cup to lose. SA had the hardest run to a final in the history of the sport and you could see the guys had nothing left to give. 5 more minutes and its a NZ victory. The country had 3 collective heart attacks in 3 weeks. I cannot explain how much this meant to us and want to thank the ABs for being the team they are. Rugby is a hooligans game played by gentlemen. Thank you NZ for being gentlemen.

    • @PrettyBoi_ZA
      @PrettyBoi_ZA 10 місяців тому +3

      4 if you take the proteas game vs Pakistan 🥶

    • @BillOsano
      @BillOsano 9 місяців тому

      Preamble to stats too long. Cards were correct. Cane should learn how to tackle. Simple. Frizell Kolisi and Cheslin dwarves yellows. No issues there. No game is ruined by cards. That's usually the lamest excuse ever. Why do NZ get so many red cards and Wales none over 5 years?

  • @nubslayer123123
    @nubslayer123123 10 місяців тому +76

    Absolute top notch report man! You're one of the only analysts who mentioned how big of a loss it was for SA to lose Bongi so early on and how amazing Deon Fourie was to step up to the plate.

    • @monunyabidness5949
      @monunyabidness5949 10 місяців тому +5

      I havent heard anyone else mention the loss of Bongi and the impact that had on the Bok game honestly.

    • @DMD19
      @DMD19 10 місяців тому

      For having a lot of depth in your team, thought losing one or two players wouldn’t effect you that much?

    • @nubslayer123123
      @nubslayer123123 10 місяців тому +2

      @@DMD19 we had already lost Malcolm Marx (arguably the best hooker in the world), then took a gamble to not replace him with another hooker and instead bring in Pollard (which in hindsight was the right call) but meant that we didn't have another specialist hooker as back up and Deon had to fulfill that role.

    • @DMD19
      @DMD19 10 місяців тому

      @@nubslayer123123 the right call would of been having another hooker?

    • @sandrah5156
      @sandrah5156 10 місяців тому +2

      Springboks also had 2 yellows = 20 minutes.

  • @taura101
    @taura101 10 місяців тому +31

    Zak, before the Irish game I said the All Blacks would be on the plane home. After the game, I started to believe again. During the final, even with 14 players, I found myself saying "you can do it". I was amazed. I was believing AGAIN. When the whistle went I was disappointed. But the disappointment was dwarfed bypride in the Blacks and joy that the BELIEF is back. Congrats South Africa. Congrats to the All Blacks for bringing back the belief and pride in this fan.

  • @Zion66666
    @Zion66666 10 місяців тому +21

    Most AB fans are like the ABs. They don’t waste time blaming others for a loss. They accept responsibility. It’s one factor that underpins why they still the greatest sports team out there. ❤️ from SA.

    • @JaemanEdwards
      @JaemanEdwards 10 місяців тому +1

      Respect Saffa.

    • @NikisLearningLounge
      @NikisLearningLounge 10 місяців тому +1

      THE GREATEST ❤ also from SA

    • @cedriclakey8210
      @cedriclakey8210 10 місяців тому

      I beg to differ. I have been so disillusioned and disappointed with the nzs support. Bet the abs acknowledged their loss.

  • @donaldalexander1235
    @donaldalexander1235 10 місяців тому +20

    I’m a South African rugby fanatic and have been following you throughout the tournament. Your depth of analysis and objectivity have been a treat follow. Congrats and thank you.

  • @sonjabarnard2102
    @sonjabarnard2102 9 місяців тому +1

    What a fair and insightful analysis. I do wish that the NZ pundits would follow your example. They detracted from a phenomenal final between two giants in world rugby.

  • @ettienedelange8887
    @ettienedelange8887 10 місяців тому +3

    This is how to annalize a game with facts and not on emotion.

  • @Retrowipe
    @Retrowipe 10 місяців тому +210

    "The game's ruined now", I said to my wife when Cane's red card was confirmed. I wanted the Boks to win, but not like that. I wasn't angry at the officials though... I was angry at Cane for a clumsy tackle. Fair play to NZ though for making the Boks EARN that win. I will say that all 4 cards were correctly called in my opinion. I see comments from some quarters that Kolisi should have been red too, but that's a completely unhinged view.

    • @slayerbot1394
      @slayerbot1394 10 місяців тому +66

      As a kiwi, even if Cane stayed on, i strangely believe Boks still wouldve won.
      Assuming everything else remained the same, SA didnt make us miss those goal kicks.

    • @danielrandall5304
      @danielrandall5304 10 місяців тому +5

      Nice one ...

    • @lyznav9439
      @lyznav9439 10 місяців тому +10

      I think the match against France is the one where we had to score, thrice at that, and thrice scoreth we.

    • @naidoo307
      @naidoo307 10 місяців тому +4

      @@slayerbot1394🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @naidoo307
      @naidoo307 10 місяців тому +19

      Yep AB,s were dirty taking out Bongi , seriously how did we manage to win our whole game plan was turned on it’s head after a couple minutes it was like receiving two reds and then some ! 😮😅

  • @douwsteyn423
    @douwsteyn423 10 місяців тому +24

    Great analysis Zack! The Black's lost with 14 men by one point. As a Saffa I think this is testament to the fact that New Zealand will forever be a top Rugby nation. Nothing to be ashamed of. Respect!

    • @lionelsawyer1222
      @lionelsawyer1222 10 місяців тому +2

      Zacktly

    • @Enlightenment246
      @Enlightenment246 10 місяців тому

      Red cards are earned and if Thats the reason the AB lost then they shouldn’t have gotten a red card in a final.

    • @HakatimeRugby
      @HakatimeRugby  10 місяців тому

      I like what you did there

    • @JaemanEdwards
      @JaemanEdwards 10 місяців тому +4

      Even though the All Blacks lost, they still won. Everyone knows who played all the rugby.

    • @Wide-eye
      @Wide-eye 10 місяців тому +4

      @@JaemanEdwards Playing side-ways rugby towards touch does not win World Cups. Attacking rugby wins matches - defence wins World Cups !!!

  • @MMako13
    @MMako13 10 місяців тому +3

    'Negative firsts for Fozzie and Cane' - how many times have we been down that path 😂

  • @lukecorreia3160
    @lukecorreia3160 10 місяців тому +50

    The NZ scrum definitely held up, but I think it's also worth mentioning that Bongi going off so early starts a bit of a domino effect which really stacks up against the Springboks in the second half. Bongi is obviously meant to play at least 50 min, Deon is meant to come in fresh with the rest of the bench. As it plays out Deon is incredibly tired at the end of the game, which can have meaningful implications for the Springboks front row. Even if you are bringing on six fresh forwards the effect is very much blunted with a front row that isn't operating at 100% your thoughts?

    • @christophervan6966
      @christophervan6966 10 місяців тому +3

      Well said. Great observation.

    • @nicoboshoff
      @nicoboshoff 10 місяців тому +7

      Bongi is the linchpin for the bench. Allows Deon to come up as dynamic flanker and finish at hooker, line outs are steadier and I think Bongi just scrums better than Deon so Ox and Nyakane would look more impactful. Deon was scrumming with cramping legs and a bum shoulder. So yeah, Bongi being taken out of the game so early was disastrous and a true testament to massive balls on Deon.

    • @sveng3192
      @sveng3192 10 місяців тому

      Agree

    • @dilochetty9332
      @dilochetty9332 10 місяців тому +3

      Not to mention that Siya had to stay on for the ful game as Bongi normally takes over the captaincy for the last 20 minutes as well..

    • @Bokgat
      @Bokgat 10 місяців тому

      @@dilochetty9332did siya stay on for the full 80??😂

  • @wernerheenop
    @wernerheenop 10 місяців тому +7

    Awesome analysis. Thanks man!
    The Arendse try saving tackle on Ioane was also a massive moment.

    • @UglyKidJoe71
      @UglyKidJoe71 10 місяців тому +1

      That was probably one of the best try-savers I've ever seen in my many years on this planet. Top drawer stuff

  • @teacheral5048
    @teacheral5048 10 місяців тому +3

    Earned yourself a Springbok subscriber with this. HUGE Respect to the All Blacks my 2nd team I only don't support if they play against the Springboks! Unbelievable rugby nation! Hold your heads up high and stand proud All Blacks!

  • @oraclis4892
    @oraclis4892 10 місяців тому +5

    Foster is dead wrong about the ball in play strategy. The reality is that the Bok forwards are not significantly heavier than other teams - and they are much fitter. Every team that tried to “make them tired” ran out of steam first

    • @shaungibbs7400
      @shaungibbs7400 10 місяців тому +2

      I agree. All pre-matches (all matches, not just the final) talk about running the SB forwards off the park, never materialised in any game. Great observation. It is now a myth. They are very fit.

  • @BraziwiSteve
    @BraziwiSteve 10 місяців тому +25

    As disappointing as the result was for the departing players, the AB supporters and the sport in general, we can find comfort in the fact that the AB style, the strength of their players, their mana, and belief in their plan was good enough to make the boks sweat the result until the last seconds, despite having a sanctioned numbers advantage for most of the game. Running, free-flowing rugby is not dead. The game is still for everyone, not just forwards and goal kickers. But well done South Africa, the plan and the gamble paid off, you won this one fair and square with immense pressure (and a slice of good fortune). At least we don’t need to endure a Rassie ref analysis video, or god forbid an English or Aus win 😂

    • @greatleapforwards
      @greatleapforwards 10 місяців тому +7

      the "Rassie analysis video" comment is getting a bit old now. it is time to move on. the way he did it at the time (over 2 years ago!) was probably not right, but the outcome got people talking about analysing decisions (and its still ongoing). Secondly - to say that SA style does not include running rugby is a bit disingenuous. We have an exciting backline (obviously not to the level of the AB's), but the weather on the night and the occasion (and hence the gameplan) did not call for that.

    • @dimitardobrev3296
      @dimitardobrev3296 10 місяців тому +6

      100% agree mate, the Boks have been played the "beautiful running rugby" for most of the World Cup. I cant understand how people forget this seemingly overnight. For finals, winning is winning, there are no prizes for how well you danced. @@greatleapforwards

  • @marcelrossouw7761
    @marcelrossouw7761 10 місяців тому +19

    One significant stat not mentioned, speaking to Bok's ability in stifling AB's attacking intent; the silent killer : 5.05 seconds ruck speed

    • @UglyKidJoe71
      @UglyKidJoe71 10 місяців тому +1

      Great spot! And well put too. 'the silent killer'.. I like that 👌

  • @kylespindler8617
    @kylespindler8617 10 місяців тому +1

    I love how you focus on the data rather than speculation of what-ifs. This makes you a trustworthy and non-biased pundit unlike some of the mainstream NZ channels. I have just subscribed and will be watching more of your content in the future. Keep up the excellent content. From a South African.

  • @shaneelbachoo2480
    @shaneelbachoo2480 10 місяців тому +16

    Zak, this is next level analysis. I have watched a lot of analysis on this game and this definitely added richness to it. Thank you for the subscriber giveaway - it is an honour to be a recipient. 🙏🏾
    May the rivalry continue!

  • @maropinini1262
    @maropinini1262 10 місяців тому +1

    🇿🇦As a South African, love your unbiased analysis. Good Joy🎉 However, 🏆🏆🏆🏆RWC Champions, have to rub in. Proudly South African 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🏆🏆🏆🏆 4time RWC Champions, FANTASTIC

  • @PhilBritz-u8k
    @PhilBritz-u8k 10 місяців тому +11

    AB are always class, even in an increasingly competitive environment. I hope the red does not define Sam internally. he is a fine gentleman, sportsman and human. He is so much more than one decision in the heat of a tough rugby battle.

    • @JaemanEdwards
      @JaemanEdwards 10 місяців тому

      A warrior and gentlemen. But he's gotta go. This is now the Big Papa era.

  • @ortforshort7652
    @ortforshort7652 10 місяців тому +39

    Just like the some of the top football teams in Europe, South Africa's strategy was to let New Zealand have the ball and attack on the counter. South Africa had two players Kolisi and Arendse go over the try line with that strategy, but were unlucky to get the tries.
    South Africa also knew they had a huge advantage in the kicking game with Pollard and they used that advantage

    • @alexcollins2938
      @alexcollins2938 10 місяців тому

      south africa also had the best coaches, i hope razor can get the all blacks back to the level they need to

    • @StevenBenjaminAuthor
      @StevenBenjaminAuthor 10 місяців тому +1

      was actually De Allende that went over the tryline. I actually think that was Jordie Barrett saving NZ, cos he rolled De Allende on the deck, using his momentum, while DDA was trying to recycle the ball, but once it was over the tryline, its turnover ball & a dropout. Have to watch it again tho to check

    • @ortforshort7652
      @ortforshort7652 10 місяців тому +5

      @@StevenBenjaminAuthor I stand corrected. The point of the comment was that South Africa came thisclose to two tries from their counter attacking strategy which I found sort of got lost in all of the analyses of the match that I've seen.

    • @dilochetty9332
      @dilochetty9332 10 місяців тому

      @@alexcollins2938 yes, the NZ coach is busy whining about the tmo ..lol.. so he would rather hav wrong decisions in the game than the tmo and having a fair game

  • @AlexTaylor-wk1gt
    @AlexTaylor-wk1gt 9 місяців тому +1

    The most objective and unbiased review I have ever watched. Zak, you have my utmost respect and I look forward to your rugby reviews going forward. As a South African it gives me great pleasure to know that there are people objectively analyzing a game without the heart dictating the review but rather common sense.

  • @dimitardobrev3296
    @dimitardobrev3296 10 місяців тому +2

    Wow, so this is what analysis looks and sounds like.
    Thanks for the video Zak, commiserations for your ABs, and i think the next WC cycle will see the mighty All Blacks rejuvenated to new levels.
    From SA

  • @TheJunglecrab
    @TheJunglecrab 10 місяців тому +8

    Commiserations to you, the ABs and all NZ fans… what a 2nd half by the ABs with 14! These 2 teams just “bring it” when they play each other! It’s the final that we all wanted and may our rivalry continue into the ages!

  • @simontollman6846
    @simontollman6846 10 місяців тому +10

    Great analysis, really enjoyed it. Stars aligned for the Boks and they deserved it. The same would of been true of the ABs had they come away with it at the end. Amazing how differently the rugby problem can be solved. And such fine margins at the death anyways. Gladiatorial from both teams. Very special. And very special for SA with things tough at home. Appreciate it!

    • @sibzism
      @sibzism 10 місяців тому

      ❤ couldn't agree more! Both teams have such an incredible story to tell about this WC 😊

  • @000T00b
    @000T00b 10 місяців тому +1

    There are so many what-ifs in every game. Debates that will go on for years. At the end of it all, a RWC win is all that remains. This is why World Cup finals are played in the manner they are. Because the final result is what gets you the cup for another 4 years. Hard luck to the AB’s they had their chances but luck was not on their side that night. This is the beauty and drama of the game - anything can happen on the night between two evenly-matched teams, and that’s what keeps us hooked. Every single time. Long may it be. Thank you for your outstanding analysis of the game, with best regards from South Africa.

  • @monunyabidness5949
    @monunyabidness5949 10 місяців тому

    This is the most accurate analysis of the game that i've seen, and I follow a lot of rugby pundits/ youtubers/ influencers.
    Springboks took the points when they could, and that is how they put on the scoreboard pressure. All Blacks kicked to corner a couple of times and didn't amass points at every opportunity.
    Then, Boks kicked away the ball to stay out of their half. They counted on their defense to prevail and were able to prevent a lot of ABs from making the gain line (only Ardie, Jordie and Telea had moderate success there,) which resulted in them kicking after several phases and not gaining ascendancy. These kicks were fielded well by the Boks. Because they were also able to prevent the New Zealand ball from going wide they were able to contain the attack and control the All Blacks ability to run multiple phases.
    The red card; that's squarely on Sam, completely upright in the tackle.
    A lot of people complaining about the TMO; that's been how the game adjudicated for a couple of years now. TMO can refer any foul play and can refer any infraction in plays leading up to a try. The bunker making the red card decision, same thing- *this is not new.* This system has allowed play to continue, increasing the entertainment value, but to also make the correct call. And it's far better than when the ref and TMO would look at multiple replays and multiple angles and full speed and in slow motion, resulting in some games that had 60 minute halves.
    Well done the All Blacks. That was a hell of a performance for only having 14 men.
    Congratulations Springboks- worthy World Champions.

  • @mthimkhulupamla6439
    @mthimkhulupamla6439 10 місяців тому +5

    Thanks for the good words from the team at Hakatima....As a South African.....I love your channel !!??

  • @voicesofsanity
    @voicesofsanity 10 місяців тому +5

    Far better analysis from UA-camrs than from the TV talking heads.
    Ardie is absolutely awesome, but as captain, he seemed maybe too charged up and at times panicky , appealing/talking to the ref at literally every stoppage. Would Caine have made better game management decisions if he had been on the field? They needed a cool head to just take the points.

  • @heyeksay
    @heyeksay 10 місяців тому +1

    Have really enjoyed your balanced perspective throughout the RWC Zak, keep up the good work mate from a happy 🇿🇼🇿🇦 supporter. Kia ora!

  • @Jarmmon72
    @Jarmmon72 10 місяців тому +3

    Most objective analysis. Glad I came across your videos during the World cup. Hakatime rocks from SA.

  • @majornoddy6272
    @majornoddy6272 10 місяців тому +1

    from a south african i love your analytics well done , this game could have gone either way all blacks is always a great team to play against

  • @paulbriant2067
    @paulbriant2067 10 місяців тому +1

    I understand that New Zealanders are dissapointed not to win but that was a performance for the ages by a legendary team. With only 14 men, they pushed the other best team in the world to the very limit. It is sad that there had to be a loser in that game but New Zealanders should be incredibly proud of their team. They were immense. Arde Savea is an absolute beast and deserves every accolade. What a game that was!!
    Thank you Zak for the blow-by blow by the numbers. Amazing how these stats illuminate the key areas that were won and lost. Thank you. Great job

  • @RikiLouw69
    @RikiLouw69 10 місяців тому +3

    Jacques Nienaber has been the best defense coach in the world for the past 15 years. I am so glad he finally got a 5 year stint at International rugby to show what a defense guru he is. I really hope he come back to South Africa once he is done at Leinster. Leinster have no idea what an asset they got there.

    • @JaemanEdwards
      @JaemanEdwards 10 місяців тому

      Awesome defence. Shit offence.

    • @JinxRugby
      @JinxRugby 9 місяців тому

      @@JaemanEdwards jys shit

    • @JaemanEdwards
      @JaemanEdwards 9 місяців тому

      @@JinxRugby Hey Jinxy

    • @JinxRugby
      @JinxRugby 9 місяців тому

      @@JaemanEdwards tsek my niw kom jinxy noem nie..wyk satan wyk!

    • @JaemanEdwards
      @JaemanEdwards 9 місяців тому

      ​@@JinxRugbyOh my apologies. Can I call you Springy ? It's just that everytime I see your pic, I picture no tries being scored.

  • @michaelsmorenburg-writer8480
    @michaelsmorenburg-writer8480 10 місяців тому

    From a Saffa... thank you for being our greatest rivals. It's bitter sweet to lift the cup, because then you don't... and believe it or not, that actually hurts, because I know what this game means to you too. Salute!

  • @NikisLearningLounge
    @NikisLearningLounge 10 місяців тому +3

    So it breaks my heart how the AB players still ask themselves what they could have done better...? WHAT???? your team played like SOLDIERS. Your team's show of grit, determination and integrity touches me to the core.
    I looked into the history of the ABs and SA and you will never know what your team means to our country. The AB rock 💪 So many South Africans love, adore and respect you.

    • @JaemanEdwards
      @JaemanEdwards 10 місяців тому +1

      Very honourable comment. Kiwis respect the Springboks and South Africans too. Tough fkers.

    • @RaymondSua-sh1xm
      @RaymondSua-sh1xm 10 місяців тому

      Long live our great tradition..

  • @Dabonesy
    @Dabonesy 10 місяців тому +3

    Respect mate, your views and analysis is always well balanced and very much spot on. Unlucky once AB’s but the Boks must have had the toughest run playing all the top 6 and all games within 1 score is testament to the team.

  • @JayKay-on2gr
    @JayKay-on2gr 10 місяців тому +2

    Hey mate. Saffa here. Gotta say i appreciate your genuine congratulations and excellent insights. You can definitely deserve to feel proud and the Allblacks will be Hungry moving forward. You have a new sub!

  • @dextervandendowe8329
    @dextervandendowe8329 10 місяців тому

    Your unbiased level-headed opinion makes playing the AB's so much more special. Vitriol does nothing but add to vitriol

  • @314159265mangler
    @314159265mangler 10 місяців тому +1

    Fantastic review of the game Zak. Love your channel.

  • @glenfichardt3930
    @glenfichardt3930 10 місяців тому +5

    Thanks for the viewpoints, this was a 50/50 slugfest between two amazing teams. Could have gone either way as SA had a chance to put the game away early in 2nd half, and NZ had chances to take the lead. Totally agree on your point that “if this happens” then we don’t know what would happen next as game context is changed, however I would have loved to see this game with Bongi and Sam on the pitch for entire game.

    • @JaemanEdwards
      @JaemanEdwards 10 місяців тому

      I said in multiple comment sections leading up that the Springboks only chance was another tin arse like a red card. And it happened. 😂
      This is not a 50/50 game if all is even.

  • @Burninglash
    @Burninglash 10 місяців тому +3

    I think the loss of bongi is totally underestimated in people's analysis. The stats show AB's got parity at scrums, doesn't show mauls not used to attack, doesn't show how with neutered lineouts our attack platform was nullified. It impacts the backline stats for SA. It's also interesting how the AB's are the second team this world cup to perform better with 14 men than with 15 men. I also believe the French, Irish and AB's all cracked under the pressure in the last 10 minutes which was the difference between winning and loosing.

    • @JaemanEdwards
      @JaemanEdwards 10 місяців тому

      The difference like last time is being down to 14. It was the Springboks only chance.

    • @Burninglash
      @Burninglash 10 місяців тому

      @JaemanEdwards no it wasn't. Springboks play a game plan to suit the situation. If they need to they attack if not they defend and make the other team use the ball. The finals game plan was lowest risk plan to win.

    • @JaemanEdwards
      @JaemanEdwards 10 місяців тому

      @@Burninglash 😂😂😂

  • @cobus5841
    @cobus5841 10 місяців тому +2

    Bravo! Excellent review! Every All Black supporter should be extremely proud of their team. They gave 120% out there.

  • @jacqueshollands5630
    @jacqueshollands5630 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for being so gracious. As South Africans, we have nothing but respect for the All Blacks.

  • @alangrove2642
    @alangrove2642 10 місяців тому +2

    One massive plus of this world cup has been how a lot of the podcasts have delivered brilliant commentary. Zach, Two Cents, EggChaser and Squidge of the independents. And then Big Jim Hamilton, The Boks Office, Aotearoa Pod of the biggies. Honorable mention for The TGBR Australia boys who were drunk and hilarious. GBR UK and Goldie and JK on The Breakdown could learn a lot about impartiality from all of you guys.

  • @trianglestop
    @trianglestop 10 місяців тому

    Nothing but respect for this channel. Commiserations to our greatest rivals. We have been there far more often than you have so I know the feeling very well!

  • @warrendavies3627
    @warrendavies3627 10 місяців тому +22

    I have heard alot about if New Zealand had kicked the conversation or the penalty but South Africa also missed opportunities. Siya Kolisi collected the ball early in the second half and popped it to Damian De Allende who was held up over the line. Then a grubber was put through by Damian Willemse and Kurtley Arendse dropped the ball over the try line. If that try was scored it would have been 19-6 to the Boks.

    • @BraziwiSteve
      @BraziwiSteve 10 місяців тому +1

      Exactly. Had NZ taken the lead with one of those kicks I’m sure the boks would have driven downfield and pressured another penalty. There was still enough time for the score to change.

    • @darrenleejones3516
      @darrenleejones3516 10 місяців тому +2

      @@BraziwiSteveI believe South Africa would have won no matter , they had most things covered

    • @rodeo4786
      @rodeo4786 10 місяців тому

      ​@@darrenleejones3516
      It was 1 kick away tho but think the pressure may have got to Mounga

    • @darrenleejones3516
      @darrenleejones3516 10 місяців тому +1

      @@rodeo4786 I think that team won the tournament because most teams have plan A B and C the boks had XY an Z too

    • @rodeo4786
      @rodeo4786 10 місяців тому

      @@darrenleejones3516
      fair call that little bit more makes the difference.

  • @Athlonelabour
    @Athlonelabour 10 місяців тому +1

    Hi Zack thanks very much for your amazing content, watched each and every one of them..

  • @peacefulheart1431
    @peacefulheart1431 10 місяців тому +6

    Deon Fourie had to fill many stops because in the end he was the Springbok captain. He handled the role of captain very well...'n staatmaker wanneer nodig.

  • @CraigWedge
    @CraigWedge 10 місяців тому +2

    Great and thorough assessment, well done. As a Bok fan, nothing but the utmost respect for the AB’s. Ardie Savea and Aaron Smith were heroic. No idea why Aaron was substituted, if he stayed on I think we would’ve had to climb a higher mountain for sure. Looking forward to your reviews of future clashes between us. Much respect and admiration👊🏻

  • @rickybeez
    @rickybeez 10 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for consistently providing an unbiased and rational perspective throughout the world cup. A lot of us really appreciate it.

  • @corbanbenthannon2081
    @corbanbenthannon2081 10 місяців тому

    Zack, you have the best rugby channel on youtube. From a Springbok supporter.

  • @ortforshort7652
    @ortforshort7652 10 місяців тому +14

    Mbonambi and Marx, the two best South Africans in the scrums, were injured. Hard to not have your two best guys and still dominate

    • @rmr3403
      @rmr3403 10 місяців тому

      Should have replaced with a new hooker Fourie was not ok as hooker for the whole game.

    • @raf4992
      @raf4992 10 місяців тому +1

      Boo Hoo .. You had a couple of injuries.. Wahwahwah...THe Most One Dimensional Talentless Team to Ever Play the GAME,,,,

    • @ortforshort7652
      @ortforshort7652 10 місяців тому +2

      @@raf4992 That's not a nice thing to say about the All Blacks

    • @JaemanEdwards
      @JaemanEdwards 10 місяців тому

      ​@@ortforshort7652They're hookers. You obviously don't understand rugby.

    • @markmann4392
      @markmann4392 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@raf4992 that "talentless team" won the World Cup 4 times, bud.

  • @cgfnortje
    @cgfnortje 10 місяців тому +12

    My prediction was wrong, and I'm glad about it. I underestimated my own country. Thought they were out of gas but seems that it was just a dip against England.

    • @niezniezgov
      @niezniezgov 10 місяців тому +7

      I don't think they underperformed against England, i think it is a matter of playstyle matching, if you play a restrictive rugby it can be hard to go up against a team with the same style. It seems Rassie didn't properly predict this one, I have rarely seen him panick that much in the box. They still managed in the end

    • @matthew_kiely
      @matthew_kiely 10 місяців тому +1

      SA just scraped through the 1/4 and Semi - marginal bad calls by refs gifted them the final, then Wayne Barnes MVP performance (he should get a bronze statue outside one of the stadiums in South Africa) was the icing on the cake - South Africa and coaches did a great job with the cards they were dealt.

    • @raf4992
      @raf4992 10 місяців тому

      You were out of Gas.. You were shit and you were kept in the Game By WorldRugby and the TMO

    • @JaemanEdwards
      @JaemanEdwards 10 місяців тому

      They win ugly. But they win.

  • @johnnieolivier1010
    @johnnieolivier1010 10 місяців тому +1

    Excellent review, it was definitely a game of close margins, All Blacks was very good on attack but the Springboks was magnificent in defence. Long may our rivalry continue 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

  • @truthmatters1950
    @truthmatters1950 9 місяців тому

    Hey Zac, love your fact based analysis. The big point you drive home here is the response, by both teams, to advsersity. Both teams were heroic, as you said. So, while there was a points difference on the scoreboard, there was no loser on the day. True, one side stole the lollies, but both sides could face their supporters and their opponents with their pride intact. What a game! As fans we are spoiled by the amount of rugby we can get to watch these days, and the game quality that just ratchets up every year. I recall my misspent youth of the 70s South Africa, where we would savour the prospect of a single or perhaps two internationals in a year. And the only coverage was printed media and the radio! The most savoured confrontation was always the ABs with the British Lions close - but second! Look forward to the next Clash of the Titans! Stay well.

  • @andrewkhonje6935
    @andrewkhonje6935 8 місяців тому

    This is the best review I've seen about the RWC final. I love NZ Rugby as most of my friends AND family support NZ but what SA did in 2023 was just unbelievable

  • @user-xi8rt6cf7f
    @user-xi8rt6cf7f 10 місяців тому +1

    Love your videos! You are always objective and not biased (very difficult not to be).

  • @Kryzenosbalt
    @Kryzenosbalt 10 місяців тому +1

    This is the guy to sit down with and have a few cold ones. The character shown (despite your team losing) is admirable. The fact you can see the game in this light where Hansen and others cannot is astonishing really. Maybe the emotion has got the better of them. I believe this is the best review I have seen in a long time. I agreed with everything you said. SA pack rattled by a desperate NZ pack, and NZ rattled by a desperate defence. Looking forward to the revenge. Only a matter of time knowing you lot. Love the channel, and thank you !

    • @HakatimeRugby
      @HakatimeRugby  10 місяців тому +4

      Thanks bro. When I boil it down, I think we should celebrate the men in the arena and the great example of rugby values on display.

    • @Kryzenosbalt
      @Kryzenosbalt 10 місяців тому

      @@HakatimeRugby Exactly 💪

  • @neilbarnett5699
    @neilbarnett5699 10 місяців тому

    Dear Hakatime
    Thanks for you analysis well thought out and absolutely unbiased
    You really should make your analysis on rugby throughout the world a great go to spot on you tube to go to for unvarnished truth on rugby games globally
    We need analysts like you .I would be the first to congratulate the AB ,s on a win ..because they are an incredible team !
    One of the reasons for The bok success is the incredible play by the All Blacks throughout the years presenting a continuous massive competition for us
    Thanks again !!

  • @bomvu
    @bomvu 9 місяців тому

    That was an amazing game. Surely you have to know Rugy to appreciate how good it was. The All Blacks will always be the team to beat, and the Boks will always be the thorn in their sides. Here's to many more.

  • @truthminister5828
    @truthminister5828 10 місяців тому +3

    All cards was correctly earned under current rules.
    However the Springboks has much room for improvement for next RWC 2027 🎉

  • @daviddempster8717
    @daviddempster8717 10 місяців тому +1

    I like your perspective Zak🇿🇦

  • @jacohammond9644
    @jacohammond9644 10 місяців тому +1

    Its like you said, a very big point for me as a Bok supporter was that we lost Marx early in the RWC and we had only one specialist hooker left in Bongi. Here comes my take... Bongi got hurt within 2 minutes with something that we only got 3 points from and a 10min yellow advantage. With him hurt our lineouts and scrums were in all essence neutralised through lineout throws which led to so many lineouts lost PLUS scrums where the hooker plays such a huge part physically. This leads to setpiece physicallity lost also. Scrums and lineouts are a huge part of the Boks physicallity. But somehow we managed to still pull it through where Fourie are these days playing to take up that role as well to fight for turnover ball at setpiece. We had 2 yellows as well and we had to deal with this also through great defencive play.....another huge part of the Boks dna. Overall it was a tough match for both teams to play in those conditions and to deal with everything that happened. All respect to our greatest rivals always and i must say they played well also. Close game..... 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

  • @markengelbrecht3390
    @markengelbrecht3390 10 місяців тому +1

    Good work Zak you know your stuff🇿🇦🇳🇿❤

  • @hiltonwatson4456
    @hiltonwatson4456 10 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for the great analysis and reporting Zak. Your content and commentary is unbiased and based on facts. Both Ab and SA fans thank you

  • @rassienortier5096
    @rassienortier5096 10 місяців тому +1

    Excellent pod,. Love your perspective on game, different from other.

  • @groenrizla2513
    @groenrizla2513 10 місяців тому +7

    With Marx out of the squad and then Bongi going out after 3 minutes in a final I think really changed the Boks plan on how they wanted to use the bench and loosing Bongi was probably the worst thing that could've happened in the game and then for the Boks to still somehow scratch a win without such an important player on the field? Wow!!! I think that alone is a head scratcher.
    Another day, another bounce, a different decision, another injury -all could've changed the end result.
    Unfortunate so many NZealanders think they lost the game because of the ref, these games are always so close.
    Yes there's unfortunate problems in the game that should be looked at and the cards for head contact are 1 of those 50/50 areas where interpretations are always present and we've seen this inconsistency throughout this RWC
    Well done to both sides!

    • @runforrestrun1965
      @runforrestrun1965 10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah knew as soon as Kohlisi was allowed back on the game was not a fair contest but simply amazed SA just couldnt take real advantage and couldnt score with a man advantage for nearly 60 minutes..

    • @groenrizla2513
      @groenrizla2513 10 місяців тому

      @@runforrestrun1965 Nah doesn't surprise me that a 14 man AB team seems to play as good, if not better with a man down.
      Boks been working very hard to avoid cards in this RWC and still Kolisi and Kolbe received yellows in the final. And for NZ, Frizell yellow for deliberately taking Bongi off the field within the first 3 minutes, it's because he had to leave the field that a yellow was awarded.
      The upgraded to red for Cane was expected following the pattern of how this RWC has been going.
      S Africans aren't a fan of these cards either, hopefully they stop being so anal about them.

    • @raf4992
      @raf4992 10 місяців тому

      BooHoo.. you had 2 players out...

  • @TheHardCorePunkHead
    @TheHardCorePunkHead 10 місяців тому

    Great analysis! Bravo AB's and Springboks, you are the greatest rivals of all time and are by far the most dominant teams of all time. May this continue for generations to come😁

  • @rorysullivan4913
    @rorysullivan4913 10 місяців тому

    Want to agree with all those who made positive comments about your presentation. Really fair and unbiased.

  • @paulmcmenamin205
    @paulmcmenamin205 10 місяців тому +1

    You're a great guy Zak. Like your comments brother.

  • @brandonm8416
    @brandonm8416 10 місяців тому +1

    A fascinating in depth analysis. As they say the numbers don’t lie- thank you 🙏

  • @sportsdictionary590
    @sportsdictionary590 10 місяців тому +1

    Excellent analysis as always Zak!

  • @user-cj8it9yn3e
    @user-cj8it9yn3e 10 місяців тому +2

    Great analysis thanks! SA kicks were contestable and put us under huge pressure, whereas ABs kicks weren't accurate enough to apply the same pressure. I always thought SA would have the tactics to beat us, well played SA. ABs skill set under pressure let us down in the end, but very proud of the boys for the effort. I think we showed we deserved to be in the final and our team answered a lot of the critics. There's a lot for us to focus on, but I believe we can do it for next RWC. The best thing we can do is understand it's not the rules, the ref or the TMO that led to the loss - we need to learn the real lessons and improve.

    • @HakatimeRugby
      @HakatimeRugby  10 місяців тому +2

      I agree. Its an exciting time with Razor coming in. Looking forward to seeing what he can do. We move forward

    • @corriehenning5562
      @corriehenning5562 10 місяців тому +2

      Agree, what will a world cup be without the AB's, i knew the game was on when you visited us in Ellis park and made a point, while things was not in good standing with management.I know you guys will get to understand how your play fit into the formats and rules and what to change .Well done to you team they had a amazing tour. Just couldn't understand that New Zealanders did not believe that they could achieve the final. Again respect to you guys and for Sam visiting the Namibian player in hospital, that shows the pure class you guys have.🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦➕🇿🇦

  • @andrewelliott4111
    @andrewelliott4111 10 місяців тому +2

    After Twickenham and the first game against France, just a huge shout out to you guys for making the final and being very gracious in defeat! Huge respect from Cape Town!👏👏👍✌❤

  • @sportrocdoc2237
    @sportrocdoc2237 10 місяців тому +1

    The players were gents, all played in an amazing spirit.

  • @dewetrobertson1752
    @dewetrobertson1752 10 місяців тому +1

    Really like your summary of the game mutch respect 👌👏👏

  • @dirttracker7376
    @dirttracker7376 10 місяців тому

    This is next level analysis. No emotion, just facts. Subbed (& shared) - from SA.

  • @7capetown
    @7capetown 10 місяців тому

    Hey - have been watching you all RWC. You’ve been phenomenal and so well balanced throughout. I tip my hat to you my friend. - A Bok fan

  • @razdienryland2576
    @razdienryland2576 10 місяців тому +1

    Amazing work Zak 👏👏
    I can't understand why Abs has to score tries, its a final take the points on offer!!!! As a saffa kinda happy they didn't 😅

  • @nicholasshepherd6985
    @nicholasshepherd6985 10 місяців тому

    Great review. Detailed and objective, but also very strong on the broader historical perspectives. Well done, Zac

  • @rovz
    @rovz 10 місяців тому

    Great review, as a South African I am ecstatic that the Boks won but, if NZ was playing against anyone else in the tournament, I always supported the All Blacks. A great rivalry but also importantly, we have a strong brotherhood.

  • @wot4922
    @wot4922 10 місяців тому

    Thank you Zac. So much respect from 💚💛🇿🇦

  • @andywylie287
    @andywylie287 10 місяців тому

    I've really enjoyed your analysis over the world cup, HR. Well done!

  • @SweatyChicken1
    @SweatyChicken1 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for this amazing analysis. A huge thanks to the Springboks and the All Blacks for being the greatest rugby teams in the world and giving us the most exciting rugby game ever.

  • @Retrowipe
    @Retrowipe 10 місяців тому +2

    Well said, Zac. Your final words really touching and a fitting send off to what has been a great tournament.

  • @koosvanderwat998
    @koosvanderwat998 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for a great analysis! Much respect from South Africa.

  • @lawrencebatchelor182
    @lawrencebatchelor182 9 місяців тому

    Excellent review. I was ready to switch off if it was going to be crying over decisions etc. Great analysis of where the game was won and lost. And I love how you talk about the honour of the rivalry and respect. Well done

  • @thesirzone4428
    @thesirzone4428 10 місяців тому

    i really like the way you interpret and analyze the game. Your approach is pro.....:-)

  • @gvanheerden1
    @gvanheerden1 10 місяців тому

    Well presented, I believe that rugby was the winner in spite of the cards, best World Cup that I have been fortunate enough to watch.

  • @shaundevilliers9125
    @shaundevilliers9125 10 місяців тому +1

    Pure class. The NZ team was very unlucky and could have been the victors barring a few key moments. The players after the game showed how real heroes react when things do not go as they wanted.
    Great video.

  • @trintym
    @trintym 10 місяців тому +1

    You are a top rugby analyst, probably the one of the best I know of on UA-cam and it is quite clear you have an excellent and balanced analytical mind... All in all a fantastic analysis on the final, however I still would argue that we need to reflect more on the correlation of the cards on the stats we saw, something I wonder was slightly overlooked in this initial analysis…. For example, could we attribute the ruck dominance of the boks and the turnovers due to that there was effectively 1 less quick loose forward to get to the breakdown faster for 60 minutes (or slightly less when factoring in Kollisi yellow)?… I don’t have the data to prove or disprove my broad assumption, but perhaps an idea for a future video is to use past data to draw some insights into how cards can heavily change games and the subsequent stats…. A huge topic but interesting nonetheless and im sure cards will continue to be a factor in international rugby in the near future… Anyways, just some thoughts from me… keep up the amazing work

    • @HakatimeRugby
      @HakatimeRugby  10 місяців тому +1

      It's a good point. 1 less loose forward and a more tentative All Blacks at the breakdown to avoid compounding issues. That could explain part of the breakdown success. We need more advanced stats ...... It's a focus of mine going forward.

  • @hermanvisser4034
    @hermanvisser4034 10 місяців тому +3

    For us Saffas, Zac, listening to you is like visiting a psychologist after a very traumatic event to unpuzzle and find peace in what just happened.

    • @UglyKidJoe71
      @UglyKidJoe71 10 місяців тому

      +1 😅 nerves are still shot

  • @gavinritz6981
    @gavinritz6981 10 місяців тому

    Kia ora mate,best analysis of the game,well done

  • @andrewkhonje6935
    @andrewkhonje6935 8 місяців тому

    Smart man.. Thank you. The BEST TEAM won... And that should be acknowledged

  • @WernerLindemann-sq2re
    @WernerLindemann-sq2re 10 місяців тому +1

    Brilliant and balanced review. Lots of respect between these two world class line ups.