Underhyped & Underappreciated SFF from 15 BookTubers!
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- Опубліковано 16 гру 2023
- Do you have an under hyped or underappreciated author, book or book series to add to this list? Tell me in the comments below!
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@TheObsessiveBookseller | 09:16
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Thanks for watching!
Thanks a ton for inviting me on, Josh! Some great answers here.
Thanks again, Mike!
Thanks, Josh, for inviting me to share my pick and, with this video, introducing me to a few authors I wasn't familiar with. (Also, GGK can never receive too much attention!)
Thanks again for the Jo Walton recommendation - it's definitely on my future TBR!
Bridger, which Trollope novel was the basis of Tooth and Claw? I've been reading some of his novels and short stories but his oeuvre is Huge!
@@Thecatladybooknook_PennyD It's loosely based on Trollope's Framley Parsonage.
I just sent a friend "Among Others" so after seeing your recommendation I guess I should pick it up for myself.
Total agreement about Among Others by Jo Walton. Glad a novel like that one got mentioned in the Booktube space.
Thank you for inviting me to participate in this wonderful project, Josh! I will be picking up some of the books and series mentioned here.
Thanks again for joining this - I think we all have several more on the TBR now!
Thanks again for inviting me to participate in this collab with all of these awesome people, Josh! I even picked up several to add to the TBR. -Cheers
Thank you so much for inviting me to participate in this collab, Josh! I enjoyed hearing all the different choices. I couldn’t agree with you more based on the two standalones I read by GGK. 🎉
Thanks again for joining!
@Johanna_reads Hi Johanna. I've only read short fiction by Tanith Lee. Your selection, The Electric Forest, sounds fascinating. I agree she's definitely an underappreciated author.
@@curtjarrell9710 Thank you, Curt! I've heard about Tanith Lee from very well-read SFF readers, but she otherwise doesn't get much attention. I'm thrilled that I read something from her this year, and I'm excited to check out more from her!
Thanks so much for organising this!! Always some unexpected hidden gems to find in these collaborative recommendation videos 🤩
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi guys. Just read Tanith Lee's Electric Forest a couple of weeks ago. Yes, it's good. It's really, really good. Heartbreakingly good. I loved it ! The Long Price Quartet is sublime. Wonderfully understated and powerful. I totally agree, Guy Gavriel Key is a great storyteller and author.
Great timing with Electric Forest! LPQ is definitely something I need to read soon.
I went and immediately purchased The Waking Fire and the first Shadows of the Apt book. Thanks for the recommendations, everyone! I just finished probably the best book I've read all year last night, and I wasn't sure where to go from there.
Oh excellent timing then!
Great idea Josh, and a great list of books to explode our TBRs, again. 😆
Haha indeed! Glad you liked the video!
Library Ladder is the goat, I hope I see him in more booktube discussions next year!
Lose the "goat". That silly cringeworthy term needs to be retired YESTERDAY. If it helps, Goat means " Getting Old And Tired"
@@linjicakonikon7666 🤓
This comment is decidedly not the goat @@linjicakonikon7666
What a cool idea Josh! Lots of love for the Kalatian saga too noticed.
Glad you enjoyed it! I also want to read Andrew Meredith's books now after the recommendations.
Thanks for letting me join in the fun, and I had a blast watching through for everyone's recs! I just added a whole bunch to the tbr that had been off my radar before, and hopefully I'll be joining you in singing the praises of GGK before too long!
Glad you could do this, Ben - thank you! I hope you love GGK as I do!
So happy to see Apt represented! Great pick. :D
@@TheObsessiveBookseller you have me so hyped for the Draconis Memoria series!
Great video Josh, thanks for inviting me to participate in it!
Thanks for joining! I just watched your video and see some overlap for underrated works!
Awesome Josh - Mike, Viking, Library Ladder (we need him to do some audios eh), Dr Chase, Matt, Johanna I know well from booktube but I'll be checking out all your other guests and their recommendations too! I've only read River Of Stars so far but a run of GGK is on my TBR for 2024
Definitely check out the other channels - I enjoy them all. I hope you love GGK!
Ohhh, a friend loaned me his copy of sparrow and I need to get reading. Thanks for this video. Always love to hear about these gems. 💎
I hope you enjoy Sparrow and glad you liked the video!
I love learning about new to me books and authors. Plus Tanith Lee is the queen!!
Awesome! I'm looking forward to reading Tanith Lee.
David Zindell for me is criminally underrated, his sci-fi series, A Requiem for Homo Sapiens is his best work with Neverness, The Broken God, The Wild, War In Heaven and the recently released addition, The Remembrancer's Tale. It's every bit as deep and philosophical as Dune with loads of High Science concepts and a great story.
Thanks - I'll have to look into that one!
Thank you very much Josh!!
And thank you to all the BookTubers for great recommendations!!
Glad you liked it!
Great list of books. Kay was
First coming up when I started reading fantasy and it was a while before I caught on because he was a way better writer than I was used to reading. For Fantasy I would add the Lyonesse Trilogy by Jack Vance. So good. For Sci fi it has to Ted Chiang. I bring him up and I get question marks. But he only wins a Hugos and/or Nebula awards every year for his short stories.
The Lyonesse Trilogy is definitely on my to-read list at some point. Glad you liked the list!
What a fantastic video! I can feel my TBR groaning beneath its own weight!
Haha indeed!
I did not know that Draconas Memoria was steampunk, clockwork and flintlock? I just happen to have books 1 and 3. I bought them based solely on the covers alone - the dragons 😁 That just sounds like a lot of fun, I'm going to have to read them in 2024.
I also discovered The Wars of Light and Shadow this year. Curse of the Mistwraith and Ships Merior are in my top five favourite reads of 2023, joining Empire of Grass and Into the NarrowDark by Tad Williams and River of Stars by GGK. All ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
That's a heck of a great reading year!
No kidding I saw this video this morning, and then found “the sparrow” in the lil free library, thanks Talking Stories!
Wow! That's a heck of a timely find!
Great video Josh! Thanks for the invite, I hope people enjoy Deathstalker!
Thanks again for contributing and I personally look forward to reading Deathstalker!
Super cool video! I have to say that my jaw is slack-jawed right now.. or is it agape? One of them.. Anyway, I can't believe nobody mentioned The Five Warrior Angels, published by Simon & Schuster's Saga Press. Hands down superior writing and brilliant plotting and seems to get little love from retailers and not often discussed on booktube. I'm not sure why.
I'll be reading Durfee's trilogy starting in January so hopefully those discussions will help spread the word!
you're my fav booktuber josh
keep growing
Thank you - this made my day!
Good stuff!
I’m so excited to have been included - thank you Josh! Some great recommendations here, I added several to my list.
Do you have a video/suggestions on where to start with GGK?
Thanks again for contributing to this video! I don't have a GGK video, but both Jake Bishop and The Library Ladder have excellent videos that can help you make a decision as to where to start with him.
Excellent video, Josh. I will seconded Library Ladder’s choice of Among Others by Jo Walton for underrated fantasy and Talking Story’s choice of The Sparrow by Mary Doria Russell for science fiction. And Josh you are right on the money with your choice of GGK being underrated. Also, he writes Standalones…Hallelujah!
Haha yes it's so great to find stand alones!
Happy Philip mentioned Janny Wurts, but ill try to one up the rest. The greatest slept on Sci-Fi series atm is Terra Ignota by Ada Palmer. Its the best sci fi ive ever read.
And while Book of the New Sun is slowly getting more recognition again, his Long Sun and Short Sun is still slept on, as well as Wizard Knight and Peace.
Same with Glen Cook, The Black Company is finally gettint some recognition, by his Dread Empire is still being slept on.
And the best fantasy, tho also gaining some traction lately, R Scott Bakkers Second Apocalypse
All of this was on my radar but I've never heard of Ada Palmer, so I'll have to look into that!
Guy Gavriel Kay wins everytime
Thanks so much for including me Josh!
Thanks for joining!
Adding so many books to my goodreads "want to read" from this video!
I did as well!
A lot of projects like this lately. Very cool.
Yeah, I think I've watched 3 "underrated" videos in two days! 😆
@@RedFuryBooks Are “underrated” videos underrated?
Five Warrior Angels and Edan Trilogy must be instant classics and instantly appreciated as well, written by 'booktuber' authors as well and very legit authors in their own right!
I hope I feel the same way about Durfee's books! (I did enjoy Philip's books tremendously)
@@RedFuryBooks I am enjoying them as we speak! The audiobooks are splendid as well!
Oh no the TBR is bursting at the seams now 🙈
Haha right?
GGK and Daniel Abraham 🤘
Absolutely!
Here are my 2 choices for underrated fantasy and science fiction: The Little Country by Charles de Lint was considered one of the best urban fantasies to come out in early 90’s and it’s a wonderful book-in-book novel with music, magic, and Cornwall, England as the setting. DeLint is considered an innovator of urban fantasy and deserves to be read by all fantasy readers.
The Retrieval Artist Series by Kristine Kathryn Rusch blends space opera, cloning, and detective fiction into an excellent multi-volume series. Also, Rusch has written the best platonic relationship between a man and woman I have ever read in genre fiction with two main characters: Miles Flint & Noelle DeRicci. Rusch is skilled storyteller and knows how to blend genres very well. Those are my choices for underrated fantasy and sci-fi.
Thanks for the recommendations!
We Spread by Ian Reid is so underrated. Its such a great book that reads like a PKD mystery novel. Please read this novel and give it the attention it deserves.
Well.... I thought my 2024 tbr was set but clearly I was wrong.
Yes, this is definitely a video to blow up your TBR!
@@RedFuryBooks you did warn us, though! So bravo!
Just added Death Stalker to my TBR!!
Oh yeah! Jonathan wouldn't steer us wrong.
It's fun.
I feel that Elton Van Vogt deserves more attention, i think that his novel 'Slan' carried to X-Men. Happy 2024!
Very cool - Ive never heard of this author - thank you!
@@RedFuryBooks Oop! Maybe😅i wrote his name wrong! He’s known as A. E. Van Vogt! I excuse me!✌️ Please!
@@jerzeyproone5297 Got it!
Navo wins with his lighting
Right?
GGK👍👍👍👍
Voyage from Yesteryear by James P Hogan
That got 1057 ratings on Goodreads. I select it for comparison to The Dispossessed by Ursula K Le Guin which got 120,659.
I have read both books multiple times. They are both about socio-economic dichotomies but Le Guin provides no resolution. Le Guin is more nuanced with better writing but I suspect that Hogan knew more about technology and economics.
With the rising global economic issues I think a lot of people could use some more perspective. When have you heard a Marxist suggest mandatory accounting in the schools? 😎
Sounds fascinating. Writing it down - thank you!
@@RedFuryBooks
Have you read The Dispossessed by Le Guin?
@@psikeyhackr6914 I haven't read it yet, but will. I just read Le Guin for the first time two years ago - I read all the Earthsea books. I definitely want to read more.
@@RedFuryBooks That's cool!
So if you can get them both you can do a fresh clean comparison. Subject for a video? I don't even remember how many years apart I read them and it was a while before I even thought of them as similar.
I have seen people compare VfY to a famous short story And Then There Were None by Frank Russell.
*sigh* Yet again, no one’s talking about A Stranger in Olondria (Sofía Samatar), Galveston (Sean Stewart), or Declare (Tim Powers). All standalones; just sayin’….
In case you're interested, I have a Tim Powers retrospective planned in the coming months. :)
@@thelibraryladder I’m aware, Bridger, and I’m looking forward to it. I’m just trying to “subtly” sneak a couple other authors onto wayward people’s TBRs ;)
I’ll actually be discussing Declare on the Hugos There Podcast in the spring.
Those are good choices, Paul. I have read Sean Stewart and Tim Powers not Sofia Samatar though. John Crowley is another name that should get mentioned as well.
@@MarionHill-vq2xu I nearly did mention Crowley (and Robert Holdstock) but worried I was getting carried away. Samatar is the closest I’ve seen someone come to matching the stylistic exceptionalism of Crowley, so I think you’ll enjoy her work.
And I’m glad to know that other people know of Sean Stewart! I consider him the most tragically neglected author in the genre (at least that I’ve read), since the lack of a readership forced him out of his career. Everyone should feel ashamed of themselves for doing that to him ;)
Underhyped and underappreciated is definitely C.S. Friedman. She is almost never talked about at all here.
Good to know!
The Avengers Endgame of Booktube videos.
I hope not, as I think it's been downhill since that movie! 🤣
Fantasy: Adrian Selby’s “Snakewood” & “The Winter Road”, Grimdark stories set around a Hegemonic Trading Company similar to the Hanseatic League or the East India Company, and mercenaries using potions to massively increase their prowess, at the expense of coloring their skin and infertility: “Snakewood” is about a former legendary mercenary crew hounded by their dark secrets, “The Winter Road” is a Standalone Prequel about a former Mercenary established a trading route, and will be reading the “Mid-quel” “Brother Red” soon!
SF: The “Marid Audran” Trilogy by George Alec Effinger, Cyberpunk influenced by Noir Crime Pulp, set in a 23th Century unnamed Middle Eastern Metropolis with most of the World Balkanized, mostly within a Crime-filled Slum and Pleasure Quarter inspired by the French Quarter of New Orleans. Highly Graphic in Violence, Addiction and Excess, but especially the second novel “A Fire in the Sun” I found profound in how it predicted “Information Barons” akin to Zuckerberg and Cambridge Analytica, before the Berlin Wall even fell!
A Forgotten Classic: “Salammbo” by Gustave Flaubert, Historical Fiction set during the Carthaginian Mercenary Revolt in between the First and Second Punic Wars. Highly influential for several S&S authors such as Clark Ashton Smith (“Zotique”) and Fritz Leiber (“Fafhrd & the Grey Mouser”) in detailed decadence and violence, with perhaps the earliest “Barbarian and Rogue” Duo in the powerful but lovesick Matho the Libyan and the “entrepreneurial” hustler Spendius, a femme fatale/damsel in distress in the eponymous Carthaginian Princess, harrowing battles, inter-Carthaginian politics straight out of “Game of Thrones”, decadent banquets and the image of Carthaginian Children sacrificed into holy fire temples, is directly referenced in Fritz Lang’s Silent Film SF Classic “Metropolis”. The novel inspired many other late 19th and early 20th Century artists, such as the Art Nouveau Master Alphonse Mucha, several silent movies and operas (including an unfinished opera by Rachmaninoff). I jest that it is a 200 page “Malazan” Novel! 😄
I daresay you'd be the only one to recommend Flaubert! 😁