Helldivers 2 - the new eagle strafing run is tons of fun
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
- Helldivers 2 Patch 1.000.400 brought a lot of changes. One that I'm really interested in is the updated Eagle Strafing Run. It's a lot more viable in higher difficulties and I've been enjoying it a lot.
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00:00 Intro
02:29 Overview
02:46 Basics and Behavior
04:15 Gameplay and Use Cases
08:24 Tips, Tricks, and Loadouts
10:14 Overall Thoughts
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All it needs now is the iconic BRRRRRT sound AFTER eagle passes over you, that would hit so hard.
Holy shit yes
strongly agree
I'm mad because now I will always think about that when I use the strafing run. We need the BRRRRR
Love the A10
I mean it’d have to depend on distance.
That jump grenade throw into the bug hole was impressive, nice!
Thanks! I have a video on my channel where it's all similar jump pack type gameplay if you're interested. Appreciate you checking out the video!
@@Wallbouncing Will do!
If you aren't spotted and use the strafing run on a patrol, enemies will face the direction of the EAGLE and seem to be less attentive to your actions!!!
Thanks for the tip! Didn't know that!
Thanks for the spotlight. I've been experimenting with the Strafing Run and Orbital Gatling Barrage, but to nowhere near this depth. Good to know it can wreck structures, too!
Regularly getting the most kills on bug missions by far with Gatling barrage thrown on breaches
Experimenting with the changes have been really fun so I'm glad to share what I learned with this lovely community. Thanks for checking out the video!
I feel like the gatling barrage went from one of the absolute bottom of the barrel stratagems to one of the best.
Yeah I’ve been running both it’s been fun
The fact that the strafing run is basically the main armament from a warthog tank-buster, it’s a no brainier that it should take down armoured units!
A-10s rely on Maverick AGMs or laser-guided bombs to destroy tanks. The GAU-8 is best reserved for light or soft-skinned vehicles, especially in tight groups, as well as infantry in the open. 30mm API/HEI is not as potent against tanks as it is against everything else.
its meant for non main battle tank vehicles aka vehicles that dont use heavy composite armor. Its possible after enough strafes at the back of a tank but its not the best use of those bullets
They finally gave us depleted uranium rounds to mulch armor
The amount of kinda wrong stuff there is here is werid
Theortically the A-10 can take out a MBT with its main gun (not a ammo explosion but enough to take it out the fight for a long while atleast)
Now can it kill multiple MBTs in one run? Nope
The main gun is made for AFVs and IFVs
The AGMs are for killing heavier vehicles
And the gun on the eagle is a 20mm or a 25mm like the F16
The A10 is a 30mm
Anyways thats just a random info dump
@alazygamer1032 F-16 has a 20mm just like the Eagle, F-4E, F-14, etc. 25mm is used on the F-35, and certain Harrier variants get a 25mm podded under the fuselage with ammo stowage on the other side.
strafing run feels so good now, like an a-10 strike, my new fav stratagem
BRRRRRRRR
BRRRRRRRR
BRRRRRRRR
BRRRRRRRRR
8:30 The rogue wizard station is always a tough nut to crack.
Wonder if the SOS Beacon can break it.
Eagle and gatling really went from zero to hero. I never liked cluster bomb because its AOE is actually larger than what it looks like at first and it hits in a perpendicular line. The strafe hitting in a parralel line, damaging heavies and being much safer just feels like a W in almost every situation.
Yeah. The cluster is definitely one of the best stratagems on paper, but the weird randomness (where it will occasionally miss things within the line and then kill a teammate who was nowhere close to the impact site because the bomblet bounced in a janky manner) makes it feel annoying.
cluster bombs has the same issue with the 500kg, the hp of the targe tyou're trying to kill vs the dmg falloff from the explosion ground zero makes it really random and punishing
@@TheTroubleshooter I have been noticing that my 500kgs seem to kill titans who seem a little too far from the projectile way more often than smaller units. I think the game may have a ray-tracing damage calculation for explosions, which would cause the titans to get hit with way more points of damage than anything smaller. Or there could just be something else at play like lag or armor zones or any number of things, game is complicated XD
Rocket pods followed by a strafing run has consistently shredded Titans for me. Just the sheer amount of how many times I can call it in, quickly became an MVP.
With bots its a bit trickier, but you can pump down multiple strafing runs on locations where multiple drop ships are incoming and anything that survives is pretty much guaranteed to be missing limbs, making it much simpler.
Oooh, good tip
1 rocket pods + 1 staffing run = Dead bile titan?
Sounds like a great combo. Thanks for the insight!
@@MachoMaamRandallSandwich Yes, rocket pods then do the same strat as a 500, where you bait it into melee-ing you and drop a strafe right at its feet. Majority of the time, that will kill it outright.
@Xandranxanda Tried it and it worked :) Good tip
I love how they changed the strafing run, and just by increasing its armor penetration. Originally it was just an unreliable chaff clearer that you'd drop soon as you got the airstrike, now it actually works like a strafing run: a quick line of aerial machine gun fire to crack open enemy defenses and clean up small targets.
Excellent information, thanks! I am a filthy orbital enjoyer and only resort to eagles when mission has "orbital scatter" debuff, so it would have taken me ages to even consider trying the old strafe. Finally it does more than half a magazine of Stalwart.
I hate that orbital scatter thing. It makes barrages so sad. I recently started trying the 120 barrage because it does about the same damage as the 380 shots but in a much more precise location but the orbital scatter ruins it
@@aggressivefox454
Absolutely agreed, scatter debuff sucks just like that -1 stratagem did. Ironic that those things are in the game while AH also wants to encourage players to use more stratagems.
@@forlornfoe352 ikr. Personally I feel like orbitals in general are under utilized (besides the railcannon) and a nerf specifically to them feels bad. I love my barrages and gas strikes but when they can’t hit anything (or even worse when it feels like my gas strike actively targets me) it just isn’t good for loadout diversity. Eagles already seem better so idk why this is here. I think eagle scatter increase would make more sense but would still suck to play with
As an orbital precision enjoyer since my cadet days I feel your pain, and it's great to have other options that can fill the void when the orbital scatter debuff comes knocking. Thanks for checking out the video!
@@aggressivefox454barrages have a weird nieche I don’t use. orbital laser is very potent however, especially on the shorter missions (eradicate and blitz), as you don’t run out of uses before destroyer leaves low-orbit, and precision strike is like a 500kg that can’t be called in twice, but has the same sustained rate of fire. (lower cooldown) and, importantly, can destroy anti air automaton structures. I use ir pretty often as an alternative to the eagle. the railcannon requires almost no skill, but therefore has higher call in time. git gud and use precision strike instead. gas strike is ineffective (reminds me of how in WW1, when winds shifted direction, it just gassed their own positions) and is imo just a hommage to super earth having no issues to commit what are called war crimes currently. it’s just the orbital version of mines or cluster, a way to teamkill at the expense of effectiveness against enemies. I currently use in my rotation of stratagems the strafing run,500kg, orbital prescision, orbital laser, gatling sentry, EMS mortar, recoilless rifle, supply pack and flamethrower and considering I only play one playstyle (in every game I play, I play support and I always play rifles for high single-shot damage at range with acceptable rate of fire, but to allow peeking/trading shots instead of suppression fire where you never hit. in darktide, I play only lasguns (mk4 currently) because they have good ammo and the accuracy to take down snipers reliably, even as a zealot (mainly melee class that could use a flamethrower/shotgun), having more than twice the amount of stratagems I can use per mission gives me enough variety, and there are other weapons/stratagems for players with other playstyles aswell. as I mainly focus on the AT role, it’s good to have a machine gunner that knows their craft, for example
Great video! Informative, efficient, and the visual clips lined up with what you were talking about at the time. Thanks for sharing!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for making the time to check out the video and commenting!
I love it, throw a Gatling strike and maybe 1 strafing run and a strieker hive is gone instantly, not to mention HMG mows them down too
Very nice video. Well articulated, and informative. I like this content 🤙🏼
Appreciate the kind words! I post a variety of content but I will have more deep dive videos like this in the future so stay tuned!
Great info, level 106 and I learnt more than a few things today!
The A10 fantasy has begun. All it needs is a BRRRRRRRT.
What I always liked about it, is you can throw it at your feet, and as long as you take like one step back it will not hit you. So you have something for very close support.
0:22
Holy shite, now i have a new main strategem
That'll teach them to set up their expensive technology in a dumb line, haha. Thanks for checking out the video!
i still prefer airstrike but i really like the buff and i see a lot of Divers start using this make me happy this is kinda what Helldivers 2 player want
not about nerf our weapons but make our weapons useful and had place in our loadout
That was an great review. So much info.
Thanks so much!
Another great breakdown, thanks!
Appreciate the kind words! Thanks for checking out my videos!
I already liked it before the buffs so I am happy to see more people pick it up because the utility it gives was and still is not being valued enough.
It might seem strange to have a "garbage" stratagem but the value of it not being a stratagem you have to save for that special occasion is a big part of why it was and is good! On its own its not all that amazing but you can spam it and use it without remorse to deal with patrols and POI guards which often results in less bug breaches/bot drops being called.
It also being such a 'controlled' stratagem means that when you get some experience with it you can use it to help teammates without blowing up the entire neighbourhood + teammate. Also feels badass to drop them on your feet and just take like one or two steps back and be perfectly safe so you can keep shooting surviving enemies as the BRRRRT goes to town on them, most stratagems involve you throwing them and then running the heck away.
For bug missions I can warmly recommend pairing this one up with the good old Punisher shotgun, while everyone else is killing bugs while kiting, you are killing bugs while pushing forward!
(Supply backpack, Flamethrower and a 500kg makes it a semi-sweaty difficulty 9 loadout that kills anything while still letting you have fun with the BRRRRT).
Great breakdown, i agree with the balance philosophy of jack-of-all trades type. Where its useful enough to fit where you need it, but not op enough to be in every loadout. I really dont like meta mentality so its nice to be able to use whatever i like whenever i like.
I'm going to try using it like a mini walking barrage, nice vid
Even after I heard of the armor pen buff, I was iffy on it since a wider AOE is usually better for crowd control, but seeing it destroy structures makes me want to give it a try. It's a weaker combination of crowd control and precision destruction, which seems to give some nice versatility.
I am a big fan of the strafing run. It’s just so predictable, versatile, and convenient. If it did a tiny bit more damage to heavy targets it’d be godlike.
I didn't think about it that much, but now that you've mentioned it, predictability is actually a very important part about stratagems. Stratagems with some sort of targeting feature built-in can be unreliable, so using orbitals/airstrikes that play out the way you expect is very nice to have. Thanks for checking out the video!
I was waiting for your vid on the specifics/best uses for the strafing run. I'll definitely have to try it out, 65m range + lvl 4 explosive pen has really options 👍
Appreciate the support. Thanks for checking out the video!
6:34 this changes everything, and will definitely warrant bringing to the field. 🔥
Prior to the patch I had killed fresh chargers with the strafe run, but I think it was specifically because the blast damage would rip open its under body
Ive been enjoying the Gatling barrage combined with the EMS orbital strike, especially against terminids, solves the biggest problem it had: They will walk out of it. Just chuck both on a Break and it'll clear it by itself for 30 seconds.
Works with the Orbital Cluster and 120mm artillery aswell!
Bless you Wallbouncing Infinity.
They have nailed it with the stratagem buffs!
I have been testing Rocket Sentry and Orbital Gatling so far, and those quickly became one of my favorites.
Especially the Rocket Sentry as it can aim in the air and shoot down Gunships.
i already used strafing run almost everytime instead of a weapon to clear patrols with precision. its golden now. also Strafing run is useful for patrols in the sense that it clears the backup caller mobs in 1 shot at least in BOTs. that alone made it valuable as i used to run alone for side objectives
Very good video! Will share it wiith my guys :D
Appreciate the kind words and thanks for that! It helps out a lot!
Mixed with orbital Gatling and machine gun sentry, and the tenderizer, it allows me to become close air support in the form of a storm of lead
3:22 I think the explosive trait for the smoke strike is because the smoke is released by a giant shell, which you can use to take down fabricators and bug holes with it (similarly to the orbital gas strike, for instance). The strafing does not have a single “casing”, so it doesn’t have an actual “explosion”, just shots.
Similarly to hellpod and drop pod, giant bullet can be used to kill bile titan to, if hits them on the head (yes, you can actually kill a bile titan with the smoke strike… in theory, haven’t yet hit them with the bullet, let alone on the head😂).
I can definitely see the justification for 'explosive' trait now. Thanks for explaining!
7:38 Air to air kill. Holy shit that was satisfying.
I don't care if it's not efficient. I'm going to make my Eagle 1 an ace.
I honestly was not expecting it to destroy it. After seeing it take the gunship down, I only wished I threw it better in the hopes to get all three takedowns, haha. Thanks for checking out the video!
Well made video, subbed 👍🏼
Thanks for the sub! Appreciate the support!
i feel like they also increased the amount of shots that comes down in a run. If you watch the preview video, there are so many undamaged spots on the ground
Looks pretty OP. Will gove it a try
Hope you enjoy! Thanks for checking out the video!
Close air suport that go brrrrt! What could be better? A destroyer that Go BRRRRRRRTTT!
Top it off with some airborne green spices and enjoy every two minutes
Thanks, good info! It really became a versatile gem, can be used to finish off bigger enemies damaged by other stratagem too, and compared to cluster bombs its much safer around teammates!
Appreciate it! Yeah, by itself the strafing run is now at a place where it can hold its own, but combining it with other stratagems to take down larger enemies is definitely a great option too. Especially when you have 5 call-ins, you can just sprinkle in on top of your other orbitals. Thanks for checking out the video!
You might be able to use it for taking out stratagem jammers or at least the areas in front of it. If you can toss the stratagem right before the effective range of the jammer starts, the animation of eagle strafing run will begin. It may not reach the actual stratagem jammer but it can soften up your approach to the structure.
I've started bringing this boi in to easily take care of spores and shrieker nests. Because it also has so many call ins I can casually throw them in to chip away and hordes and breaches. This stratagem now feels great
With all its possible use cases, sometimes its ok to just throw it at 2 bugs since you're armed to the teeth with 5 call-ins, haha. Thanks for checking out the video!
we have an A-10 stratagem now, right on
I like that this stratagem is now like the liberator. Given to you early in the game, easy to use, and never a bad choice. It's at least average at everything, so it's fine to take if you're unsure.
better than a liberator, since this penetrates heavy armor
@@GameFuMaster wait, you really think that's what I meant?
@@Mark-es8xc liberator is more like cluster or even napalm. Low tier generalist, that starts to struggle on tankier enemies.
this works more like adjudicator, which is more effective against more mobs (yeah, the heavy armor pen got lost in translation from my thoughts to comment). But is much more restrictive in its use.
@@GameFuMaster lol you just get weirder
@@Mark-es8xc damn, you probably suffered brain damage at birth to come up with that response. My condolences
I one shot a Bile Titan with the Strafing Run. It was on a lower level "eliminate the bile titan" mission, uninjured, and no other enemies around it. The first of the salvos landed directly on its head, and the rest on its spine. I haven't tried to replicate this, as I'm sure it is a fluke, but there you go.
Most likely a fluke
Not a fluke it's just a matter of getting the carpet to roll em up accurately. If even 60% of the bombs land the titans will be on their last legs. Edit: just realized this is about strafing run and not about air strike but same thing goes 😂
I love this strategem since the patch.
Rocket sentry, gatling barrage and strafing fun are easily the biggest winners of the patch. These stratagems are so fun to use
I'm glad the two are getting a time in the spotlight. Beyond pure damage stats and all the other technical stuff, the strafing run and gatling were really cool to see, especially with multiple people using it at a time. Now that it's more viable and people are starting to bring it, fights look a lot more visually fun to be a part of it. Thanks for checking out the video!
Whoa didn't realize it got better buff than orbital gatling! Nice! Been only using the gatling post buff.
Would love to see the difference in/for optimal use for between the 3 strat you've had in mind to make!
Sure thing! Once I've gotten a really good wrap around them I'll be sure to post videos for each and describe my thoughts about them!
Love the music
Idk how prevelant this info is, the scales above where the chargers butt connects to his back is an odd weakpoint.
I expected the Eagle strafing run to kill most things, or at least heavily damage them... its a very small area of effect, and a very short duration... it needs to waste everything in that tiny area...
Considering the Eagle is essentially a Space A-10, and the A-10 is designed for killing tanks with its gun
The new changes are nice.. it still needs to hit harder.
Also needs some A-10 like audio
Ok, I may switch out the grapple bombs for this, as the ability to destroy shriekers nest and spores is definitely appealing. Moreover, the grapple bombs is horizontal, while this is “forward”, which in recent play through I noticed being the pattern I would like to have🤔
It's always been fun, even before the buff. It was just underused. Same for the gatling barrage.
Yeah not saying this guy included but many people in the community are always looking to use the best of the best and refuse to use something out of the meta like this is Warzone or some shit, this is PvE experimenting with random stuff is always more fun
i like to combo it with the spear. the spear is pretty good vs bots now but doesn't one-shot hulks as reliably as i would like. but 1 spear + 1 eagle strafe always kills a hulk
there's a change that saddens me, they didn't raise the damage they just tightened the spread you can see the old spread in the ship management video, all though whatever the new beam of bullets touches dies i miss how it would comfortably soften up the walls of patrols that got to close whenever extract was called, even some of the smaller bases for the bots it was able to completely wipe out the enemies
The spread does feel like it got a lot tighter, and now that you mention it, I do feel like that's why it's more consistently able to take down bug holes and bot fabricators. Thanks for checking out the video!
I agree overall. Calling it down, feels no like close air support from an A10. Hilarious cool
You didn't mention it but strafing run can also pocket fabricators and bugholes in a pinch, useful as a last resort outpost closer. With the additional uses and utility it has now it's actually a great mobber and tool now
He did
The eagle strafing run,it should take down armored targets coz in reality the A10 Warthog's Gau 8 Avanger is called tank buster for a reason 🤣😜
Ironically the original testing showed the A-10's gun can't penetrate most tank at all. Tends not to hit reliably too. Can mission kill if it happens to damage the tracks, but only really useful vs soft vehicles and suchlike.
The rest is just propaganda and over hype. A-10 tank kills are with dropped and launched munitions.
Look at Lazer pig's video about a-10
STRAFING RUNS ARE AN EFFECTIVE ANTI AIR STRATAGEM??? huge
What primary do you use? Looks very efective
I believe that was the new liberator carbine and later on in the video it was the diligence counter sniper, which is a marksman rifle. Hope that answers your question and thanks for checking out the video!
I’ve been noticing that the strafing run doesn’t always seem to spawn directly in front and continue ahead of me sometimes, but perpendicular across my screen from where I throw it, like a bombing run. I have no idea why, but I think its related to the direction that the super destroyers above are facing in? Am I just getting a bug or something? I’ve seen it happen multiple times.
woah i didnt know it can deal with fabs, bile titan and even the dog
that's insanely cool
I was taken a back when I first saw it too, haha. Thanks for checking out my videos and commenting! Greatly appreciated!
haven't used it on bots yet, but so far on bug missions feels alright, often get 20+ kills on bug breaches, kills spore spewers and shriekers, helps finish off bile titans if you mess up the 500kg, not great, not terrible.
Can you kill fabricators from the side or it has to be vent shot?
From my experience, it has to be a vent shoot. I've tried throwing it beside and behind a bot fab but nothing would come out of it. Hope that helps. Thanks for checking out the video!
Really condidering to use it after watching your video. The pattern is also very predictable for minimizing friendly fire. Thx
Hope you'll enjoy it as much as I have. It's simple but effective. Thanks for watching!
What tier would you place this stratagem now objectively?
With S tier being the highest tier, I'd say it's somewhere between A and B tier. Maybe B+, not exactly A-. Although it's not the best in my eyes, it's definitely climbed out from the depths of F tier and is now a more than viable stratagem to use, even in helldive difficulty.
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Wish it had a-10 sfx
I would be very happy if it had an a-10 "BRRRTT" sound effect, haha.
I don't care how many time's you guys recommend it.
I'm not using the shield pack!
YS IX: monstrum nox is much funner than team killing
They're gonna nerf the absolute fuck out of it, aren't they?
hopefully not. I feel that the strafing run is at a really good spot balancing wise. Thanks for checking out the video!
th expanded weapons bay has been bugged for couple months :(
What bug have you been experiencing? Were some of your eagles not getting the +1?
@@Wallbouncing yea dude when it rearms I get the same amount as I had before
2:22 what weapon is that?
hes using AMR and Diligence counter sniper
Detector towers??
It is not able to take out detector towers. Sorry if I didn't mention it in the video, for some reason I thought I did. Thanks still for taking the time to check it out.
Quasar cannon for gunships? Not on helldive that's for sure... take you a full minute to take down 3 or 4. AC, LC, AMR, and HMG are the best support weapons for bots imo
Like this if you used it just because before it was cool
I don't like the straifing run mainly because it does not sound like an A-10 warthog. Until they add in that glorious Brrrrrrrrrttttttttttt, I refuse to use it.
That's a take I can get behind. They need to bring back the BRRRRTTT
does anyone feel like PC players in light armour can run faster than PS5 players?
I personally haven't seen anything like that. I do play on high FOV so it may look like I'm running faster/farther but it's actually all the same. Not sure if that might be it. Thanks for watching!
I think you're actually being too harsh on the old strafing run, and didn't really cover a pretty major advantage it has over other strikes. I feel like people always slept on this strat, and it's always been a personal favourite of mine because of how safe it is to use up close to allies, even in the most chaotic fights, allowing you to get far more uses per mission than basically any other strat in the game.
To compare it to Cluster Bomb for example, sure Cluster will sweep a far larger area, but it's also comparatively much harder to find safe and suitable times to use it without the risk of it hitting allies. There's specific windows of opportunity to use it. With strafing run however, there's virtually never ever a time you can't make use of it, and get some value. The trick to getting the best value out of strafing run is to be extremely liberal with applying it. Treat it almost like you would a support weapon, rather than an airstrike. Forget worrying too much about maximised kills per strike, and instead maximise frequency and convenience of use. Because any time any strat is sitting unused, is wasted potential. One bile spewer? Just strafe it. A single shield devastator? Just strafe it. Anything that remotely slows you down or gets in your way, just strafe it.
( This of course relies on not taking any other eagle strikes, but that's generally good practice anyway.)
>strafing run can kill bile titans and factory striders...in 7-9 uses
Correction, it cannot kill bile titans and factory striders in any reasonable way OR amount of time
Pff u need 3 500kg to kill a walker and now 1 strafe? Pff
If it was only 1 strafe it would be insanely strong, especially with 5 call-ins. For me, it took around 7-9 call-ins to kill a fresh strider. I just used a clip of the kill shot in the video so I don't bore people with 9 strafing runs on a single factory strider, haha. Thanks for checking out the video!
@@Wallbouncing thx for clarifying, makes sence 😂
clickbait video, strafing run is still garbage, always has been, you want to kill a whole bunch of light-medium enemies reliably? Use eagle cluster strike. You want heavy armor dead? Use eagle strike or 500kg bomb. Strafing run is outperformed by cluster strike heavily, no reason to pick first one at all.
It's basically gone from being useless to worse rocket pods.
ive gotten multiple 30+ multi kills vs terminids with it, its not just for titans
So... If It isn't orbital laser it's bad
Man Rocket pods nail down heavy targets, factories, turrets, but you got to complain about evewrything that isn't over powered
With that logic that's like saying rocket pods is just a useless railcannon strike. Completely different utility and uses use your head
Man over here thinking Strafing Run and Rocket Pods are even remotely the same in utility. That's like comparing a .50 cal to a missile launcher just because both can penetrate vehicles.
@@Lazarultos the Op Is litterally complaining an aimed aoe crowd control Is a whorse precision single target anti armor tool
(Pods are Amazing for quickly disposing of nearly evewrything, with short reload and the fact It at most bishots heavy targets (oneshots of hitting from the back usually, but still, it's super reliable and overall it's about what gameplay you enjoy the most))
maybe not be so uptight, maybe it's just me caring too much it causes you to have no fun, I am so sorry, I will not judge anymore. Just Fuck it and let's party. Let's just remember the Good Times and leave the bad days gone wild.
Tip 1 don't use it.
Tip no1 - dont use it