Underrated Space Marine Chapters
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Made a list of some of the Space Marine Chapters I feed that are really underrated not only via tabletop rules but within the lore of Warhammer 40,000 itself.
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Loved the Iron snakes book, my introduction into the world and lore.
Dan Abnett has to be the best author writing 40k.
That was a really underrated book. Very good.
Yeah one of my top 3 soace marine novels period, he really made the Iron Snakes and their world come to life.
I loved the part in one of the later stories were a spoiled rich woman shoots one of them, and her bodyguards are shitting themselves 🤣
@@khorney202 Wait what?! A spoiled woman? Shot at a God Damn Space Marine?! Ah yes I know where this is going.
Death Spectres. Interesting founding, weird enemies from The Ghoul Stars, dodgy recruitment strategy, spooky Aspirant testing. Plus, they're albino so they look a bit unsettling.
The deathwatch book made me fall in love with them. The fact that they commonly join the death watch makes them even. cooler
bro you don’t think that most of the chapters have extremely dodgy recruitment strategies?
Iron Snakes are such top lads, I really hope Priad makes a return in the new book
Amen
Söns of malice am I a joke to you?
The most underrated and awesome for me are Black Dragons.
Yes, you are correct
Ooo yeah. Wolverine in space
Thats my brothers favorite chapter. I would love to see more of them
This
I discovered them looking for a reason for a solo space marine in my wrath and glory campaign. They are awesome.
2:14 "Think of this chapter as a thousand man Leandros".
Never have I heard a more succinct, more perfect justification for declaring a chapter Excommunicate Traitoris. Talk about a kiss of death.
i think the Mortifactors shoul get some more love as well
Honestly I like their paint scheme and would love to read their lore...if it wasn't for what they did to the Lamenters.
I would love that as that is the chapter I collect. They have such cool lore.
Anyways, Rainbow Warriors, Christmas Marines and Angry Marines deserve an honourable mention too...
🤣🤣🤣
Reasonable Marines and the Raptors
Christmas Marines are Spaced Out Marines successors don't forget
Glad to see that the Space Sharks did make it on to the list. They really are a great chapter
How dare you not include my homebrew chapter?! Emperor's light, don't you know how cool they are?!
"Think of this chapter as a thousand man Leandros." *Vomits uncontrollably*
And they look like Black Legion and are more smurfy then the smurfs!
Almost fucking spat my coffee when I heard that Tyberos might have crossed the Rubricon. Shit, who knows whay kind of monster he would turn out to be. He'll probably stand almost as tall as a dreadnought.
Storm wardens, there like a scottish themed space marine chapter, they have these huge power swords called Sacris Claymores, which are based on real scottish claymores
Ya right there with you on there. Their claymores are so awesome.
Iron Hands are also Scottish themed.
@@grimgoreironhide9985 Are they?
@@gus7850 it’s mainly the clans
Red Talons, descendants of Ferrus Manus, are pretty cool Iron Hands successors. They're less "Flesh is weak!" and more "Rip and tear" kinds of cruel bastards that came from Autek Mor's Morragul clan. Would love it if they could get a novel.
I just started painting my Indomitus marines as Emperor’s Spears. I think they are cool and have a fantastic color scheme. My one complaint about them is they are an UM’s successor chapter 😂.
I mean I don't think they're very pleased about that fact either
@@ThaLoser lol true !
I want special rules for my Space Sharks!!! Space Sharks only have 1 named character. Bail Sharr should be a unique character.
The Silent hunters novel is brilliant. They are going to be a key chapter in the future.
Tyberos the Red Wake?
Also think Te Kuharangi the librarian could be a cool character
Couldn’t you use the flesh terrors rules for them since at least in tactics they would be extremely similar (not one to one but still ) or the black templars for similar reasons. At least until you get a codex
A tu kaharangi character would be badass. Tyberos shouldn't be the only one and I wish gw hadn't nerfed the hell out of him. He used to be a complete beast in melee but now he's just ok.
I just like hearing you talk about different chapter. You should just start a series entitled, “10 more chapters I have things to say about”.
No love for the Celestial Lions? What are you ? The Inquisition?
A carcaradons vs world eaters battle would be gruesomely epic, plus I feel like the Raven Guard are underrated
Personally one of my favorite undented chapters are the White Consoles. I love how they try and keep the imperium together with might AND administration.
consuls....i think.
Executioners by far my favorite fist successor chapter and very underrated. Only chapter known to go toe to toe with the Space Sharks in terms of just raw hand to hand combat and brutality. They also saved the salamanders from getting their gene seed plundered during the badab war.
And they went up against the Minotaurs plus kicked the arse of the Son's of Madusa, the Astral Claws and Howling Griffins.
I want a mini story about that battle with the space sharks. I HAVE to know what happened.
Love the fact that you chucked Reclaimers of Dorn into the list of awesome sons of Dorn
2:41 ‘You have the Reclaimers of Dorn’
🤔 Isn’t that your Chapter Valrak?
Yay! Glad you mentioned the space sharks! And I just checked on forgeworld, the chapter master tyberos the red wake is still available at the moment. Having read the novels there are more special characters that deserve to get a model. Bail sharr, te kahurangi, etc. they got nerves of steel to go up against the night lords legion in the first book.
Here's one of my favorite that you probably will like too Valrak : The Hospitalers, aka the white Black Templar. They look cool and use the must neglected as of late checker patern.
I love the Hospitallers! Also, there is a chapter called the White Templars too.
@@AF-kj2zl Yes I know, but somehow the hospitalier manage to have a better colorscheme with some added red and checker, and also share the same maltess cross insigna with the bt, wich let you use their bits.
I actually just heard about these guys a few days ago, but yeah they're pretty sick.
@@Dakooties They really are! ANd their lore is pretty cool, different enough from the Black Templare to stand on its own, but close enough in the vib to share most of their aesthetic!
Depending on how the BT codex look, I may verywell paint my BT army as Hospitalier tbh.
I guess you can't call them underrated since they have their own rules, but man, the Flesh Tearers are so freaking badass and scary. They are the perfect image of a seraph near consumed by bloodlust and they have a really awesome chapter master
(Cries in Silver Skulls)
Great video! Goes to show how much more room for amazing story telling this universe holds!
"Moving on the list is the Marines Malevolent." I do not approve. What I do approve of is the Charnel Guard. A Blood Angels successor chapter that has a few fellblade, fire raptors, and leviathan dreadnoughts painted in a sexy black and dark maroon. They also have enlarged canines, and go into stasis pods when not in combat. There's a lot to like here.
I thought they were wiped out in the Devistation of Baal?
@@Demalion1 they were almost wiped out. They’re probably getting primaris reinforcement. If GW remembers they are a thing.
@@TuShan18 Got it. So many chapters were either destroyed or nearly so I keep forgetting which ones did die.
@@Demalion1 well this one doesn’t even have a true marine scheme. We only know the ones we got form a fellblade and a leviathan. To say there’s little about them is an understatement. It won’t stop me from adding them to my deathwatch though.
@@TuShan18 No reason not to
I want more of the Raven Guard and NightLords like specific units and what not maybe more lore and the Lamenters
Like 30k’s Dark Fury Assault Squad or Mor Deythan?
@@lt.branwulfram4794 good thing is in lore Shrike reinstated the Mor Deythan into the chapter structure, hopefully RG only unit in the future
I'm building a Black Dragons force, if love to see an Index Astartes for them. There's so much story potential for how these guys receive primaris reinforcements
I love how the Hammers of Dorn were founded to troll the Ultramarines.
the iron hands deserve better
Said World Eater XD
The Hammers of Dorn seem like something Valrak would be a part of haha. 'memememe Ultramarines suck, we're so much better'
2:40 - and also mysterious Exorcists, golden Celestial Lions and Astral Knights) Imperial Fists have a lot of them)
And the Excoriators/Soul drinkers/ Fists examplar.
Black dragons, space sharks, flesh tearers and the lamenters
I'd love to see some more love than the one or two short stories for the Obsidian Jaguars, under the idea that some did actually survive and become bolstered by the Primaris.
I would like to see some more attention paid to the Exorcists. Specifically the reason for their horrifying initiation, and how it affects these marines mentally. Lots of story material there.
I have two favourite chapters. The first one is the Exorcists Chapter (which surprisingly counters my Word Bearers) due to the way their recruitment process goes. The second and most recently is the Steel Confessors, a chapter mostly unknown to the community but it was a big thing for a Games Day back in 2005 (4th edition Marine Codex was used).
They're a Iron Hands successor chapter created in secret by the Adeptus Mechanicus as the Iron Hands gifted them gene seeds for helping them with a campaign. The inquisition got wind of the secret Chapter working under the Mechanicus and wanted to purge it, but the High Lords allowed the Confessors to live as long as they followed all the rules the other chapters followed. Their Captains are also Tech Marines but more so as they are closely tied to the mechanicus then their parent Chapter. They've fought Tyranids a number of times, first was when their original Homeworld was destroyed by Behemoth and the second time when their second homeworld was threatened but their experience from the first time gave them the edge to win.
They had the Chapter Traits
Scions of Mars (+1 wound to Tech Marines and they could be HQ choices), Suffer not the Alien to live: Tyranids (3+ to hit in CC against Nids) and the drawbacks were We Stand Alone (Can't take allies) and Flesh over Steel (most Heavy Support vehicles were 0-1).
I love loyalist chapters from traitor legions, the theories about the Raptors and Blood Ravens make them super interesting imo
Great video again Valrak, I remember the Hammers of Dorn fought during the Damocles Crusade. I also remember they found trouble once they found the tau adapted to their stringent strategies.
PS: The Marines Malevolent are piss colored for a reason.
TYBEROS THE RED WAKE IS A BEAST!
I absolutely love the salamanders and I know that they are a well-established chapter but they don't get that much love when it comes to books or characters I'm not saying that we need as many as per se the ultramarines or Space Wolves just that we need a few more than two that are playable. And even if they don't increase the amount of playable characters at least talk more about their culture and give them a few books that showcase their personalities
This manz really just said the Reclaimers of Dorn were canon
I'm glad the mantis warriors got an honorable mention, they're one of my personal favorite chapters. Storm giants too
I would love to paint up some Marines Malevolent, would actually be lore accurate each time I face another marine army haha
Give the Shadow Wolves some luv too
2:55 If any chapter deserves a underrated status it’s these guys.
Howling Griffons. Love the scheme, their lore is excellent. Good characters.
I'd say Emperor's Spears, but they have gotten a fair bit of love and a reasonable modicum of popularity. Their Vaelarii brethren deserve a mention though - the Celestial Lions are awesome (and are also Imperial Fist successors into the bargain ;) ).
I really really want a book on Tyberos and the space sharks
They might not be underrated, but seeing the Retributors get a White Dwarf supplement would be awesome.
Marines Malevolent. About damn time! Best of the best of any space marine chapter.
The Carcharodons are probably my favorite chapter and I like how they fight in complete silence making even the Night Lords uneasy when they fought them, Also Tyberos being a monster with hunger and slake going from silent statue like when not in combat to blood thirsty when in combat and as you said they kill everything brutally. Also how their tithes works are interesting as well. Really do hope for more books to cover them more.
The Night Lords were actually bothered by it because the tactics of the Carcharodons felt way too familiar to themselves
I loved the Brother's of the Snake novel from Dan. One of the first books I read when I got into 40k audiobooks at the start of last years' pandemic. Still one of my favorites, such a great read. In contrast, the first few books of Uriel Ventris are actually kind of generic compared to that one-off tale
Woohoo! Mention of Iron Hands successors haha. I think Iron Lords is worth a mention stopping tyranids from going super saiyan from eating the Barghesi.
you know what you were doing when ya put Iron Snakes in the thumbnail. Good old Sgt Priad.
Lamenters, always and forever. They have not suffered enough for their sins of trying to be the good guys
Oh what a cruel fate for the unjustly cursed...
Thank you chaptermaster, you have shown me the way! Now I know how to paint my first marine army
I don't like deathwing colours but dark angels are my favourite so GUARDIANS OF THE COVENANT IT WILL BE!
My Black Templars need love..MUCH love !!!
Iron Snakes of Ithaka!! Superb.
I'd love to see the carcarodons get love. Codex models and upgrades. There beyond bad ass.
Storm Wardens need some love
Subjugators, Dark Hunters, Disciples of Caliban, Storm Giants, Black Dragons!
Imperial Fists and Blood Angels are my favorite main chapters, but Iron Snakes and Carcharadons are easily my favorite successor chapters.
Iron Snakes are Ultramarine Successors, who are non-codex compliant and superstitious. They get initiated to join by killing hundred meter long sea serpents. They carry spears, and shields, and short swords and excel in phalanx formation type combat. Newly joined members or marines looking to rise up the officer's rank will undertake solo missions answering distress calls in their sector of space. They even use dogs in combat. They're very Ancient Greek Hoplite inspired.
Carcharodons are a total mystery of who they're successor chapter of. Like sharks they roam the void in fleets of ships, until they learn of heresy/xenos/traitors and they swarm on the enemy. They use a variety of chain based weapons aka weapons with teeth. Their Chapter Master is as big as Primarch and wear Dreadnought Terminator armor. Based on their tattoos and some unique chain weapon designs, they have a Pacific Islander theme.
They're both so cool.
I really liked that the Iron Snakes used apothecaries in an interesting way. Their comics in Warhammer monthly were brilliant too.
How did they use them?
@@bentaylor809 The Iron Snakes are not organize in companies. They send single squads to answer aid requests. They send one apothecary per squad if I remember correctly.
@@wyrdwulf999 that's pretty neat, thanks!
Star Phantoms are who I feel need some books/ lore
The Marines Malevolent can stay right where they are along with every other chapter that would gladly extinct humanity if it meant killing their enemy.
Glad to see Iron Snakes getting some love
The Angels of Vengeance and Consecrators seem interesting too and they look like Heresy era Dark Angels.
Eh, there is enough dark angels lore already. other chaps need more love.
@@traaaaan I disagree honestly. Pretty much everything we know about these chapters is from the little entries in codexes and small mentions in novels. I'd love to see a good Angels of Vengeance or Absolution novel someday
Wonder what the Carcharodons chapter is up to now that they have their own homeworld.
I believe that was retconned or they just took all life on it and left. The most recent novel shows a group of Carcharodons entering Commoragh and beating lilith hesperax. They then return to the main predation fleet.
@@markhohenbrink5230 what the- May I know which novel this from, definitely want to read it now :)
@@laniemon its the most recent black library book, silent hunters by edoarda Albert
2:41 the reclaimers of dorn that are in the lore huh haha
Did you forgot Raptos? Amazing Raven guard sons with high end sniping skills.
One chapter I wished got more love is the Storm Wardens this kind of Scottish Highlander warrior chapter of space marines. There is an air of mystery to them since their history was lost to them since millennia ago their entire 1st company and the Chapter Master were interred in stasis due to taint from fighting and defeating an Enslaver invasion and their home world was quarantined. So we aren't sure of their progenitor legion so we can speculate on their origin. Plus they are famous for using giant claymore power swords which is just so freaking badass.
Just want to thank this video and the comments for letting me know about The Iron Snakes book, Just finished and it is easily one of my favorite 40k books and quite possibly my favorite space marine novel and i'm a Raven Guard guy. Just such a good sci book over all imo ( which is sometimes my main issue with 40k novels, that they don't have much of a plot sometimes or tell a good story over time )
Loved the Iron Snakes book. Probably my favorite Ultramarine successor chapter. Would love more books on them. Also the Carcaradons and the Exorcist need more love. Loved them after learning about them in a Deathwatch book.
Lol I'm putting my custom chapter in the segmentum pacificus as well for the same reason. You have all the freedom
I think now Storm Giants are listed as rumored successors of the Salamanders, but that can't be cuz Salamanders don't have successors :)
Now they do.... Only Primaris if I remember
@@turtlehead8386 You are correct. I just liked it better when they didn't have successors. It made them more interesting imo.
LEEROY JENKINS!!! The weather is hot and so are my lightning claw chainfists
Mortifactors ... Silver Skulls ... Minotaurs ...
Agree with ya Valrak. Name a more iconic duo than orks vs space marines
Raven Guard. Really, just because they are first founding, doesn't automatically mean they get enough love. Also I double you on the Space Sharks (and they are Raven Guard too). Also Majorkill just released a custom Tyberos mini and its awesomely chonky!
Also Iron Hands.
F in chat for the Knights of Blood
Here's some underrated chapters I wanna see more of:
- Disciples of Caliban (An entire chapter dedicated to hunting Cypher? Yes please)
- Sons of Antaeus (Please GW, we NEED canon artwork of them!)
- Wolfspear (You present a Space Wolves successor chapter and not give them some action? Cmoooooon!)
- Executioners (I wanna see them get redeemed, and maybe get Primaris, not to mention the smile it'd give Valrak)
- Blades of Vengeance/Angels of Defiance (I wanna see how the rest of the Unforgiven would treat them in the long run)
- Sons of Medusa (It's not often that we get material on the Iron Hands, and the Sons of Medusa have a very interesting chapter organization. Iron Thanes? I wanna see a model of that please!)
- Mentors (I like the idea of an Astartes chapter that trains normal humans. DEFINITELY not sons of Alpharius, wink wink.)
- Stormwatchers (I know, I know, they're just from Inquisitor: Martyr and it wasn't a very good game, come at me. But I think there could be a lot of interesting stories about a chapter that has to safeguard an entire sector that's constantly under siege, not to mention one that had to deal with most of its members falling to Chaos. Again, just an idea.)
- Ashen Claws (Rarely do I see an independent chapter that's also loyal. I see a possibility of some of them being hired by the Imperium as spies for the regions outside of the Astronomican's reach.)
- Dragonspears (Very rarely do Salamanders get a successor chapter, and they've already made a good first impression fighting alongside the Space Wolves against the Orks.)
- Black Vipers (Again, Salamanders. And they're one of the more secretive successor chapters, even one that I could see coming into some kind of conflict with their other fellow sons of Vulkan. Or, perhaps their secrecy could be because they too are seeking the artifacts of Vulkan, placing more priority over it than others.)
- Atlantean Spears (First of all, it's refreshing to see a Blood Angels successor chapter that ISN'T just red again. And they're the only chapter that seems to have inherited Sanguinius' ability of precognition. Could lead to some very interesting stuff.)
- Fire Angels (They don't think Guilliman is the king of the universe. Need I say more?)
- Iron Fists (Again, Iron Hands.)
- Fists Exemplar (They no longer exist, having been disbanded during the Last Wall Protocol. Of course, given how the Soul Drinkers were remade by Guilliman's orders for saving the Phalanx, the Fists Exemplar could be remade. I have to admit, Valrak's made me appreciate the Imperial Fists more and more. Thanks, Valrak.)
- Subjugators (Another angry chapter of Dorn? Yes please.)
- Iron Knights (Sons of Dorn that act like sons of Perturabo? Yes please.)
- Sons of Dorn (Like the Executioners, their chapter's numbers were also heavily reduced because of the actions of one or a few of their own. Give them some redemption, GW.)
- Iron Talons (I think the sons of Jaghatai Khan need a bit more appreciation, wouldn't you agree?)
Holy shit what was that cinematic at the beginning?
Also, a thousand Leandroses? Where are my fucking virus bombs?! IT'S EXTERMINATUS TIME!
The Consecrators are another underrated successor of the DA. Especially given the are basically 30k Dark Angels in 40k with all the relic tech they have to field.
Scars need a bit more love. 30k done a lot to get them more background and make Jaghatai a bad ass.
I wish Raven Guard got more love and their underrated successors the Raptors.
I think the Celestial Lions are criminally underrated. Also the Space Jaguars or something? They had a short story on the Community website. They were badass as well
I like the Sons of the Phoenix. "Alright, so you are white-golden-purple Astartes who strive for perfection, have a wing in your heraldry and use phoenix metaphors, you were just created and only Belisarius Cawl knows where your gene seed comes from, right? So what do you say is your founding chapter? The Imperial Fists? I see, I'm sure they are."
Exorcists got their Index already, but I wish we saw more of them.
the 2 chapters i want to build an army for are the raven guard and the Carcharodons
I quite like the Doom Eagles as an under represented chapter
Iron Snakes are so cool. I remember listening to that back a while ago and thinking how cool their chapter master was. This absolute beast and giant of a guy, even compared to space mariens. So cool.
As a White Scars fanboy, I'm planning on doing a series of painting one unit of every White Scars successor chapter.
Cue the List:
- Storm Lords
- Marauders
- Solar Hawks
- Rampagers
- Destroyers
- Dark Hunters
- Mantis Warriors
- Iron Talons
- Storm Reapers
- Sons of Jaghatai (Fan-made but included in official media)
- Storm Callers (if I can verify details)
Love the Iron snakes, Dan Abnett’s book brothers of the snake was the first 40k novel I read! I’ve seen there’s a new novel about them with a new author is it worth a read?
Iron snakes needs another book
I like the minotaurs
Marines Malevolent. Most underrated chapter ever.
I think the latest Storm Giant rumors have them being a Salamanders successor chapter which if that's the case I would be even more tempted to build an army around them.
DEATH SPECTRES!! Keeping an unknown terror at bay in the Ghoul Stars!!