Hearts of Iron 4 How Does Air Superiority Actually Work (hoi4 tutorial guide)

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  • @mekolayn
    @mekolayn 4 роки тому +148

    Enemy: Has 500 fighters
    Me: Has 5k of fully upgrated level 3 fighters
    *Enemy has air supperiority*

    • @stratant.8722
      @stratant.8722 3 роки тому +4

      Makes sense

    • @betaplain297
      @betaplain297 3 роки тому +1

      *your fighters are probably out of range*, they probably have air doctrine and radar too

  • @jjquinn295
    @jjquinn295 6 років тому +93

    The supply reduction makes sense, the allied fighters would go shoot supply trains and trucks if they didn't have any more fighters to attack.

    • @dustinl796
      @dustinl796  6 років тому +14

      I was meaning for gameplay reasons, seems kind of odd to be that realistic in a game where you can send hundreds of thousands of soldiers towards the 20 with with one heavy tank and can't push it because it has armor in it 😁

    • @jjquinn295
      @jjquinn295 6 років тому +7

      Dustinl796 Videos Look at what happened to the Chinese when they tried that without explosives.

    • @thefirstprimariscatosicari6870
      @thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 6 років тому +6

      Dustinl796 Videos Considering how heavy tanks tended to have a bazillion machine guns...
      I mean just look at the Italian pacification of Lybia of 1921. Their two Fiat 2000 Heavy tanks were simply untouchable by infantry thanks to their 8 machine guns and 65 mm cannons.

    • @thefirstprimariscatosicari6870
      @thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 6 років тому +2

      jjquinn295 What happens in Hearts of Iron did not really happen to the Chinese since Japanese light tanks could even be penetrated by rifle caliber AP ammo.

    • @Glo0ze
      @Glo0ze 6 років тому

      @@jjquinn295 In this game you can equip troops with specialized anti tank weaponry like the bazooka upgrade and they still cant do it ;)

  • @midz77
    @midz77 5 років тому +61

    *Take France without declaring war on Poland*
    BOI

    • @dustinl796
      @dustinl796  5 років тому +2

      maybe......

    • @strunale2647
      @strunale2647 4 роки тому +1

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      Gotta make you understand
      Never gonna give you up
      Never gonna let you down
      Never gonna run around and desert you
      Never gonna make you cry
      Never gonna say goodbye
      Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
      Never gonna give you up
      Never gonna let you down
      Never gonna run around and desert you
      Never gonna make you cry
      Never gonna say goodbye
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    • @sld1776
      @sld1776 3 роки тому

      Easy now with micro. Justify ok n Yugoslavia as soon as you get enough political power, take down Czechoslovakia with light tanks and micro, then land your light tank forces near Calais and rush Paris before the French army can react.

    • @slavetislamic1957
      @slavetislamic1957 3 роки тому

      @@strunale2647 damn it and damn you

  • @unity2364
    @unity2364 6 років тому +23

    Oh, Boi… I need to start actually HAVING an airforce... Lately I'd just spam all of my aircraft onto this one place, and it'd always end with 2 Million of my own planes being taken down...

  • @TheDedictvi
    @TheDedictvi 6 років тому +59

    You can use command "ai" to turn off ai so they won't remove their bombers from areas where you have air superiority.

    • @dustinl796
      @dustinl796  6 років тому +7

      Yesterday when talking with a couple people someone did tell me that, I'll make sure to do it in future videos. Thanks bring it up though I'm going to favorite it so other people can see

    • @Max1mvsM
      @Max1mvsM 6 років тому +1

      is there ai in this game🤔

  • @petersmulders8058
    @petersmulders8058 4 роки тому +10

    I just want Air Superiority for the 50 nukes i cooked up

  • @alpaslanylmaz7303
    @alpaslanylmaz7303 6 років тому +12

    You have to make your airwings smaller. For example 2 k fighters in an airport but you should put 100 fighters or each wing which makes it 20 air wings. That way they will all be useful otherwise there is combat width even on air which makes your wings useless if you put 1k plane on each wing. It's all same for other type of planes btw. 50-100 planes for each wing is OK

  • @shadow7988
    @shadow7988 6 років тому +21

    One thing I've never figured out is how the game is influenced by wing sizes. What I mean by that is if the game 'cares' if I make, say, a single wing of 1000 fighters, or 10 wings of 100 fighters.

    • @dustinl796
      @dustinl796  6 років тому +8

      To be honest people say that all the time, however personally I have never had an issue with it in air battles. I don't notice a difference whether I have as you said 10 Air Wings of 100 or two air wings of 500

    • @EinApoStein
      @EinApoStein 6 років тому +7

      less air wings means more ace pilots because it's a chance per wing to get one

  • @jackmccoy891
    @jackmccoy891 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the short video explaining air superiority, I myself didn't wanna sit down for forty minutes listening to talk about virtual planes

  • @adrianmartin7344
    @adrianmartin7344 6 років тому +8

    You forgot the movement speed penalty for ground troops wich is cripling for any "mobile warfare army" and has to be counterd with AA in the units

    • @dustinl796
      @dustinl796  6 років тому +1

      Yeah, I'm more covered that in a recent video about how overpowered aa is

    • @adrianmartin7344
      @adrianmartin7344 6 років тому +1

      @@dustinl796 yeah just saw it well done :)

    • @dustinl796
      @dustinl796  6 років тому

      😁

  • @coletrickle1775
    @coletrickle1775 3 роки тому +1

    Well I just got this game like 4 days ago, and a lot of dlc and updates make a lot of info from before 2020 useless in 2021. So that might be the answer to your opening puzzlement.

  • @قمرالدين-ر5ي
    @قمرالدين-ر5ي 6 років тому +7

    the numbers are normal usa when they start entering germany they have 10k tanks in 1941 when germany attack soviet union they destroy 30k air craft on the ground

  • @dustinl796
    @dustinl796  6 років тому +13

    just wanted to say dorry about the video seeming rushed, i really wanted to make this video asap to try and help the community but my moms dog hap puppies last night and ive been having to help and didnt get much sleep when it was time to do this video, thanks for understanding

    • @chico-percebe
      @chico-percebe 6 років тому

      Dustinl796 Videos thanks anyway. i already knows everything about that but it is good to see it if i missed something

    • @dustinl796
      @dustinl796  6 років тому

      did you see anything new?

    • @chico-percebe
      @chico-percebe 6 років тому

      no in this video but i learn more things in the rest :) by the way, good templates and good explanation!

  • @nitrondersaftige3807
    @nitrondersaftige3807 4 роки тому +1

    I think, I have a bug.... I can't use my aircraft, because I always need more supplies.... But it takes like 30 and you won't find any province in South America, which has so much. (It is my first game so far and nobody seem to have this problem)

  • @general-cromwell6639
    @general-cromwell6639 4 роки тому +1

    I know this is an older video, but, recently I started thinking about creating an "air supply" component to my air force. Thoughts?

    • @dustinl796
      @dustinl796  4 роки тому

      i dont. its really not helpful aside from like 1 or 2 divisions cut off but still it doesnt work well

  • @360xxx_swagluvunohomosapie9
    @360xxx_swagluvunohomosapie9 6 років тому +3

    Fighting germany as italy my AA spam cant handle german plane spam(10k+ planes) and they stack like 1000-2000 fighter and bomber planes per combat province...how to deal with that?

    • @dustinl796
      @dustinl796  6 років тому +1

      put 2 line aa or 2 spaa in each division that will be in combat, that will completely remove all pealtes you get from the enemy air force

  • @mohammedfazil7924
    @mohammedfazil7924 5 років тому +1

    I thought air superiority will give you bonus for artillery.

    • @dustinl796
      @dustinl796  5 років тому

      if you have the doctrine that gives the bonus yes. look in the doctrines for (air superiority + (x%) it gives that much of a bonus if you have air superiority :)

  • @kingdomoftransylvania5744
    @kingdomoftransylvania5744 4 роки тому +1

    my planes arent moving from their bases

  • @micker7666
    @micker7666 6 років тому +10

    hey can bombers deal casualties to the enemy? I saw on Taureor's vid he dealt 300k casualties by just bombing. I tried doing it but no casualties but dealt dmg to infrastructure.

    • @dustinl796
      @dustinl796  6 років тому +5

      The only time casualties can be incurred as if they are bombing ground units while troops are in battle, other thing you can do is Bomb the infrastructure like he explained and this will cause the troops to be under supplied and lose more when they get into combat

  • @riicklancerloock268
    @riicklancerloock268 6 років тому +3

    please tell me why/how you are using strat bombers.
    Most people say 'what's the point of bombing stuff you want to conquer soon anyway?' And they seem to be right.
    So as Germany (but also other nations) what do you bomb (infra/factories/forts?) and why?

    • @dustinl796
      @dustinl796  6 років тому +2

      Well I wouldn't recommend bombing civilian factories, instead I would Target either forts if you can't break through, infrastructure if you want to cause supply issues to the enemy, and then military factories, as long as you try to avoid bombing civilian factories wants to country has been taken over you can just repair them kind of quick through the continuous focuses

    • @riicklancerloock268
      @riicklancerloock268 6 років тому

      Thank you. Strat bombers seem to be super strange to use so I was suprised to see you have a couple thousand of them around haha

    • @dustinl796
      @dustinl796  6 років тому

      What happened as I was playing as the USA and Germany would using some of the templates I made a video on we couldn't stop him, he was halfway through Russia so I had to change all production and nothing but Strat bombers and canceling everything else, I was pumping out 8 strat bombers a day

    • @riicklancerloock268
      @riicklancerloock268 6 років тому +1

      Ohh I see. So should Germany even go for strat bombers ? I think it's more a thing for Britain/USA to bomb Germany into submission, no?
      Also are there any ways to make the game run faster? After 1943 it's usually over for me which is maybe enough to kick one major faction out of the game but not both.

    • @dustinl796
      @dustinl796  6 років тому

      In single player you might be able to get away with it, if you're in multiplayer that allows it I wouldn't recommend it since the Allies can build enough fighters to counter it

  • @S_1.q
    @S_1.q 3 роки тому +1

    You have some dlc's on?

  • @WashedGeralt
    @WashedGeralt 4 роки тому +1

    "Way more better" - I just subscribed

  • @boudjferoud3942
    @boudjferoud3942 4 роки тому

    How to show the circle around the airports

  • @nathanaelhunter4009
    @nathanaelhunter4009 5 років тому +2

    Does having air superiority have an effect on recon and initiative? I always that it had some modifier to it in combat

    • @dustinl796
      @dustinl796  5 років тому

      No, just gives a bonus saying you have air supperiority

  • @cosmicpotato3409
    @cosmicpotato3409 4 роки тому

    Hey Dustin me again :) I tried expert ai on hardest mode and at least it was some challenge but there was a problem. As Germany, I had 2.5k ish 1940 5 exp LVL motors and reliability fighters (didn't upgrade weapons at all) and USSR had 3k ish LVL 2-3 motors 1940 fighters. In the beginning, I was killing more fighters than I lose and I've always had green air but in 1942 I started to lose more fighters than I kill although, I had Italian air support. My agility and speed were always more than Russians but for no reason, I was losing more fighters no matter what (I even deployed more fighters than theirs with some cheat to test but the result was the same) our air efficiencies were almost same but I had %5-15less air detection. Could you explain this? and keep up the good work, please :)

    • @cosmicpotato3409
      @cosmicpotato3409 4 роки тому

      I tested a bit and I think air detection affects a little bit but the numbers of your fighters drastically affects it apparently.

  • @jaimejaime2930
    @jaimejaime2930 6 років тому +2

    Way more better...

  • @Mr.BlackLab
    @Mr.BlackLab 6 років тому +2

    How many hours do you have on this game?

    • @dustinl796
      @dustinl796  6 років тому +3

      around 3500, yes 3 5 0 0

    • @Mr.BlackLab
      @Mr.BlackLab 6 років тому +3

      I thought my 500 was a lot, god damn.

  • @jewpacabra1905
    @jewpacabra1905 5 років тому

    does air superiority increase the performance of our fighters against other planes? is there any bonus to agility or something like that? please help. thank you.

  • @fulcrum2951
    @fulcrum2951 5 років тому +1

    What about air supremacy?

    • @dustinl796
      @dustinl796  5 років тому +1

      use doctrines to get better as bonuses

  • @jonideweese2543
    @jonideweese2543 6 років тому +2

    I just cannot figure out how to use them In the first place.

    • @dustinl796
      @dustinl796  6 років тому

      its planes, they shoot down and blow stuff up

  • @TheyCalledMeT
    @TheyCalledMeT 5 років тому

    is there an effective way to shoot down planes?
    what ever i tryed .. it was about tiny amounts at best .. even with far outnumbered and out-teched planes ..

    • @dustinl796
      @dustinl796  5 років тому

      Aa wont effwct fighters, so aa and fighters are best, aa to destroy cas and planes to take out other planes

    • @TheyCalledMeT
      @TheyCalledMeT 5 років тому

      @@dustinl796 so if there are a couple hundred or thousand fighters .. accept it since you won't shoot down a significant proportion of em ever.
      how about navi and air? i intentionaly built a lot of light cruisers in high tech and modified aa but they still didn't shoot down anything worth mentioning while i was loosing a lot of ships trough naval bombing

    • @dustinl796
      @dustinl796  5 років тому

      Well aa it depends on the levelof cas and aa, i did a aa video and if i remember right 1939 spaa took out 15 cas a day, then 1942 spaa took out 30 and i think 44 spaa took out 50 or 60 a day, and yes light cruisers do the same thing, it just depends on the level of planes, aa and ships

    • @TheyCalledMeT
      @TheyCalledMeT 5 років тому

      @@dustinl796 hmm .. the LC's where tier3 and AA boosted .. and in large numbers while the Planes where about a couple hundred in entirety and always a couple dozen in the single fights .. but still just a TINY amount of them got shot down.. that's what made me quite speechless and let me put out the question since i had NO IDEA how to effectively kill planes if not with high tech AA in large numbers ..

    • @dustinl796
      @dustinl796  5 років тому

      Naval aa is kinda diffrent than normal spaa and line aa, they shoot down cas over multiple days, naval aa attack everything but mostly attacks torpedo bombers and mostly just makes the chances of susccesful hits lower

  • @MrHunter83
    @MrHunter83 4 роки тому

    This was no help >:(

  • @natedogbfd
    @natedogbfd 5 років тому +1

    not very well explained write a script next time.

    • @dustinl796
      @dustinl796  5 років тому

      Yeah this was back before my channel was very professional