Mig Welding with Co2 & a Lincoln Power Mig 210mp
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- See the full web page here goo.gl/qLn46z or visit the store to check out this weeks featured product goo.gl/HTZz5P Just to show the differences between 75/25 argon/co2 and straight co2, I welded 2 test plates at a low setting. A setting that would be recommended for about 14 ga steel ...18 volts and 230 ipm using 75/25 and 19 volts with 230ipm using straight co2.
Then Bend tested both plates using a simple bend test fixture made mostly from 1-1/2" round stock and adapted for a Harbor Freight 20 ton press.
I'm loving my lincoln 210mp and I'm showing my "tween-age" daughters how to use it, on the mig side. No it's not "The Beast" but it is a great tool and really versatile. It's been my go to for most jobs since I got it 4 months ago. Still haven't used all the settings yet, but I'll use them as I need them. Thanks for the videos. Please keep them coming!
Reminds me my first straps, geezzz was I pissed when it failed... Now, lacking practice, too much machining not enough welding... Guess the lowering eyesight got something to do also... Love Welding as much as love machining.... Life is fun in the shop :-))
Great video. Just goes with what I've said for 10 years about"fancy smancy" gas mixes. They have their place.I was elated with it in the mid eighties.
Then I was pissed because I couldn't find C25 in S.America. I went back to the old days.CO2. After a couple pounds of wire and a proper gas regulator I laughed at myself.
Hey. It works for beer it **must** be great !
Ground. Stick out. Gas flow.Use only your ears to adjust wire speed.Good to go.
Jody, you should do a 3 way comparison/bend test with that machine...one joint tig, one mig, and one stick...er70s-6, vs er70s-2, vs 7018....same thickness, same output, different process...I always "heard" when I first started out that tig was the "strongest" process...i think it would make a great vid...
Dear Jody , thank you very much for taking time for demonstrations . I learned their techniques of welding. Thanks from Ecuador . Pedro Q.
Could you do a video on maybe like, strength test comparison between flux core wire versus using mig/gas wire?
Also what applications you'd use 025, 030 and 035 wire for and what their limits might be
Thanks!
Great video as always Jody! I look forward to your posts because I know that I'm going to learn something new every time. I feel you have the best instructional welding videos on UA-cam and I thank you for your time and effort. You are helping to make better welders with every video you post.
I can testify on breaking those cast iron plates on my 20 ton Harbor Freight press. It liked to have given me hart failure and wet pants. Got some good old steel plates now. Love your videos Jody, they are the best on you tube. I have learned a lot watching them, please keep them coming this 72 year old can't wait for the next one.
i've found the use of cooking spray helps reduce the sticking of that splattering. and i learned early not to sit beneath the weld wile wearing polyester pants. you'll know why when one small piece of arch splatter lands in your lap. right on the tip of your manhood. have you ever slapped at a fire caused by arching to put out the fire. well when that burn is in your lap. you learn quick to refrain from that.
Interesting - I see some videos saying use CO2 for thin stuff and your video went a different direction. Well - I trust yours MUCH, MUCH more.
Thanks :-)
Another well put together, informative video. As a novice welder I like that the past few videos have been specific to my particular welder (Lincoln 210MP) as I am just becoming familiar with it. I learn something every week and, as time passes it all starts to sink in. Very good teaching skills Jody. If you have time, can you run some flux core through the 210 on 10 gauge HSS. I don't have a shop and will probably be building my trailer frame outdoors in the breeze. No worries if you can't as I have been practicing and have a feel for it. Just nice to see someone who knows what he is doing so that I can pick up a few extra pointers.
Absolutely the best welding videos on the net, really great thank you, love the scientific approach to all your testing
Just picked up this machine and found your highly informative channel. Thank you for doing what you do here.
Where did you buy the adapter for the c02 flow meter
This was werrry usefull! In couple days I will start to migweld. Last things to get is shielding gas and some jacket :). About gas - I was puzzled to choose co2 or mix, but now I am shore to get the much cheaper co2. Thanx a lot!
how did the co2 gas work for you ?
Thanks for the comparison Jody. Interestingly, it looks like you got less spatter with CO2.
Wow, this was an insanely informative video!!! Thank you Jody!
I don't have 220 volt Jody taught me I should probably have one size of each diameter wire and tons of tips of each size
030 wire would be plenty big enough for 3/8 plate ( with the right settings) i guess you wanting to use 035 is more so personal preference. Nothing wrong with that
I have a huge CO2 and tank 75% Argon mix Miller 211 definitely the thing needs of good ground
Funny the lower-end machines are now high-end machines and although digital settings are super precision
Funny the lower-end machines are now high-end machines and although digital settings are super position
I can't believe Jody just said all the problems I've been having I'm too smart to not have known the ground
Another great video! I'm really thinking about getting this welder now and your teaching skills and knowledge is amazing!! Like the comments below I wana see some flux core welding with this.. I don't have a shop or shed or etc.. I weld outside on our offroad Baja truck we race.. Would tig welding outside be okay or no?
David,
TIg or even MIG with gas is best done in a shielded area the slightest breeze can remove the shielding gas from the weld with predicable results.
Build a breeze proof barrier out of tarps and a few poles to keep the breeze out and you should be good to go.
Cheers
Buy a tarp...
I used to have 220 my grandma got air conditioning and electrician utilized the 220 outlet for the air conditioner no more 220
That be cool if there was a grounding spray or Dielectric grease to put on the grounding clamp
Having a good ground has been interfering with my welds Jody remind me to have a good ground
Another excellent vid Jody always lots of useful info thanks you 🙏
If Jody bought a new car he would cut the engine open and acid etch test the engine block
Very nice.... I love your Chanel ..... You have taught me how to weld..... (Sort of lololololol). An other idea for more videos would be to do this with different types of rod in stick welding.....I have the small everlast machine. 😀
He's done vids with the everlasts checked out
purchased this welder because of the videos on your site thanks
I thought maybe it's not too smart to have a spray bottle and spray one or two sprays on the ground of water
I was using CO2 in my Lincoln ProMig 175 and started experiencing porosity. After trouble shooting, I discovered the entire hose/cable assembly had come loose and was pushed out of the machine. I posted pics of the issue on my Instagram and all of the keyboard warriors started telling me the porosity was because I was supposed to be using 75/25, ignoring the fact that the hose was completely outside of the machine.
I just want to point out that the 210MP has a C100 setting in the setup wizard, this is supposed to use a different table of presets and help you get closer to where you need to be. I had an old CO2 tank from some carbonation I did 10yrs ago, so I've been using CO2 exclusively with the 210MP.
So glad to have found your video.. Hopefully you can answer my Q. Just subscribed !
I have a Lincoln 110 V welder.. gets me by. I came upon some Stainless Steel (.35 Thou. Thin) free 4x8 sheet.
Don't know what type of Stainless it is but it a little soft and non magnetic. I want to weld with C02 only. Can this be accomplished and what wire to use please!! Accidentally purchased some non fluxed Blue Demon ER308/308L wire. (Thought it was fluxed). Thanks in advanced !!
I've seen so many gmaw videos on UA-cam where guys have their machine set to about 18v (sometimes 17v). And they never bend them. Maybe its just for show but i dunno...I'm no expert but in my experience, anything below 20v is too cold.
Got my first 20lb bottle of CO2 connected to my Lincoln 180C this weekend. Very impressed with the performance running straight gas. Excellent cost savings when practicing for plate tests.
Hey Jody
What's your insight on the Lincoln 210MP
I am looking to get one but I just want to know if it would be suitable for mobile fabrication.
Cool crap, cool products- Hey Jody so which is better CO2 or argon/Helium mix?
i use a Lincoln 140hd mig and been using just flux core wire. i want to stsrt using gas, which do you advise for this 110 machine, 75/25 or straight CO2?
u need an adapter to connect to a co2 tank.
what would be the setting for a mig root using 035 wire with the Lincoln 210 schedule 80 plate or pipe 75 /25
You think you can make a video on calculating the amperage? . Just like a simple breakdown.?
Hi, nice video. I have a question. Can you weld stainless steel with straight co2?? I want ro make a stair hand rail for my house and this have the same machine. Hope you can help me. Regards!!
Thanks for the videos.
You were talking about having a good ground with mig welding.
I have a metal table that I weld on and I just noticed that the metal power strip is grounded to my table causing it to be earth grounded with the plug on the power strip.
Will the earth ground affect my weld? Reason why I’m asking , sometimes after I start a weld about 2-3 seconds into the weld I get a sputter then the welder welds fine. I’m welding with a new Hobart 140.
Thanks for the video I'm mostly a stick welding person but investing a 210 mp to do mainly aluminum I already bought an sg 100 but who knows it might turn out to be my main welder keep the videos coming I appreciate them
Hey Jody have you notest any woble in your drive roles with the lincoln 210?. Just bought the 210 mp and it seems the dive role for the mig wire feeder is off center. doesnt seem ro effect the weld. should I be concerend?
the company i work for just recently started welding galvanneal and its been a pain welding it, we just recently tried co2 gas and its very tricky getting it dialed in for sure.
on my everlast power I MIG 200, is the arc force where I would set the indicated sitting ? when using co2
Please move your lessons in Russian . I will be very grateful . Thank you !
is there any difference in the CFH? generally run my co2 around 20.
Super!
Huge thanks for all your videos, that was very interesting as always!
Well done and very informative! Thanks for taking the time to demonstrate this.
Lets see some mig welding stainless... No one does any videos on that...
loved the video & how find the problem then correct it. thanks
Awwwww yeah. You picked up the same welder i have :D
So that's MAG welding :)
Awesome video. Thanks Jody.
Jody, i think welding with CO2 isn't mig, but mag.. Carbon dioxide is a active gas so mag (metal active gas). Correct me if I'm wrong please
@Austin Carlson Yes Acetylene is obviously active. But I would call CO2 semi-inert, in that under certain conditions like in a arc the carbon and the oxygen dissociate, and for a fraction of a second recombines as CO (carbon monoxide) it then re-associates withe the oxygen atom to reform CO2. Even C-90 (90%helium,7 1/2% argon, 2 1/2 CO2) which is used for SS MIG is not inert. Only aluminum MIG is truly inert, as it only uses argon or argon/helium mixes and is spray transfer.
Jody, first of all great videos. I enjoy them very much and you clearly know your stuff. Perhaps things have changed but I don't believe there is a documented aws procedure for welding short circuit on anything, much less 3/8". Let's see the difference between this and FCAW. For anything 1/4" and up, IMHO FCAW is the way to go. Short circuit will work but it's not ideal. I'll use it on 1/4" but only if I can remove all the mill scale or put a bevel on it. If not, I steer clear of short circuit on thicker steel.
Jason Antley There are no pre-qualified procedures but you could certainly have a procedure qualified if need be, just have to go through the process.
Hey Jody how do you like that Jackson hood?
Grind out the root eliminate that problem
Great video (again) Great to see the bend test jig put to use. Be careful with those cast iron plates that come with the Harbor Freight press. Ive heard a few accounts of them shattering under the right situation, you know how cast iron is. I would recommend a good thick piece of 1018 or something similar.
1ANeat Yep, I have heard that those cast harbor freight plates with explode but I think using the bend test jig they are not stressed much....just compressed against the cross member...I will probly buy some A36 plates from SWAGoffroad eventually
Excellent. Thank you.
what specifically does each gas do in the 75/25 mix, how and why does argon help the weld
jrcll as i've learned. each gas is to force out any oxygen from the area around the weld. now argon promotes electron flow. much as it does in neon lighting. it's used in plasma lighting to create a given color of light versus other plasma gasses. and being it's a good plasma gas it makes for a hotter weld. much like helium does when welding aluminum. hence the welding process heliarch.
I am now testing some welding with co2... It works great... all untill the regulator freezes up... Std cheap regulator... any tips?
steisje I'm welding with straight CO2 cos its cheap. My regulator gets very cold but hasn't frozen yet, however in another video Jody mentions that using a nylon washer between the regulator and bottle instead of a fibre washer does help prevent freezing.
Hello. thanks for the reply. I did use a nylon washer, but it still froze up. But I have solved it now. I glued 5x 12v resistors on the back of the regulator. And then covered them in chemical metal. (each resistor got over 160 degrees Fahrenheit before mounting) so now it gets cold but not freezing up anymore. Regards.
I have a Lincoln square wave 175 TIG and HTP Invertig 221 and I am now looking for a GOOD dedicated MIG, been looking at the 210MP and Millermatic 211 but what would you go with if you were in this situation?
go with the miller 211
Bonus from work now has me eyeballing the Millermatic 252
I just bought the Power Mig 210mp on your recommendation and my local welding supply. I am attempting to weld a 5/8 inch bolt 5 inches long to a piece of 1/8th inch thick angle iron. I am using the angle iron as an axle and using the bolt lengthwise in the V of the angle iron with the threads sticking out. Do I set the 210mp with straight co2 for the 1/8th inch angle iron?
g1moore Good question: Set machine for thinnest piece? In your case the 1/8" settings may be a little cold for the bolt.
Let's see - 5/8, sounds about right for 8-13 inch dolly wheels. With nut and washers that would leave about 1.5 - 2" for weld. I am guessing here to set the scenario to apply my 2 cents.
First remove any plating on the bolts and scale from the angle iron. Then I would set welder for about 3/8"(1/4 minimum). Tack weld the 4 corners to keep the bolt aligned with the angle. Start the puddle on the bolt to get the heat into it and wash into the angle iron. Spend more time on the bolt and control the heat into the angle by how long you dwell on that side of the puddle as you go.
Eddie the Grouch Thank you for your assistance. I will try that. I always make my parts as clean as possible. 8 inch wheels for a generator. Thanks again.
Better hot than not !
Brainmalfuction Right heat is fine, but horizontal with +++ heat ==> SAGS big time, gravity is the thing to beat
Actually you can use a lot of heat in 2 G.
I've ran spray transfer on 2 G plates its just fine.
Being that it was open root, he needed the right heat to fill the gap and fuse both sides.
After the root was in he could have cranked the V up a lot and still have a nice looking weld with better Pen.
That would have defeated the purpose of the video though.
Brainmalfuction
Best I found for horizontal with lots of heat and fast rate of deposit is shielded flux core, the slag helps holding the puddle. Never tried spray transfer horizontal though...