Thank you to everyone who provided boat transportation and extra video footage! Also, the Mars is still in Pat Bay at the time of this video. Go check out my buddy's video at ua-cam.com/video/ptiiszMjKrE/v-deo.htmlsi=WgV-mQ7Uz_Fc9gH9
When the Mars were bought from the Navy, along with the four planes came a multitude of parts including 35 spare engines…well after several decades of running these great planes, all those engines are used up and then some…the airframes are actually still in very good condition but the mechanics of it are just too hard to keep going and the cost of uptime is just too great!…it’s a shame!..they’re such beautiful planes!..
@@stratos2 the DC-3’s only have two engines to deal with and the cost to retrofit them is astronomical!..Buffalo Air in Alberta have a few DC-3’s and they can build and maintain over a dozen DC-3’s for the price of one Retrofitted DC-3 with TP’s…they actually rent one from the company that rebuilds them when they get busy…but they haven’t bought one yet…
I have to wonder how they'll truck such a tall fuselage. Even without the tail, it's still an overpass underscraper, I think. Still, they managed to get a B-36 to the Pima Air & Space Museum and put it on display over 15 years ago. It's not looking too pretty these days - it's a big bird to repaint and the desert is hell on anything left in the sun. Given that PASM couldn't get that magnificent monster into a hangar, it will be a pity to watch the Mars deteriorate over the years. PASM needs a lot more hangars. BIG one's!!!
Wonderfully video. So great to be able to watch the majestic Mars final flights. I played it over and over on a big JBL 310 party speaker ,base boost on and it sounded like I was on the camera boats.
It was suppose to make it's final landing at Lake Roosevelt then be disassembled and trucked to Tucson. Put man, the cloak and dagger stuff over this ferry flight is insane! I've contacted PIMA, both phone and email, had to leave voice mail, no reply from either. Contacted Coulson, no reply, posted on other UA-cam channels, no one has any info. I realize after sitting since 2015, LOT's of maintenance bugs to work out. But they won't even tell me where on the lake it will be moored and disassembled. Like I said, who knows the exact date, it's fluid obviously. But they should have some sort of website to keep people up to date for this historic aviation event! Very strange!
@@joncox9719 They don't want too many people swarming the place and interfering with arrival. Your best updates are from the social media of the pilots and Coulson.
@@joncox9719 Yeah, unfortunately it will be really difficult to figure out when or where they will land in Arizona because they don't want any chances of boats interrupting their arrival.
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They did the same with Hawaii and were still mobbed at the airport, too many spectators make the move very difficult @@joncox9719
Yikes! The first takeoff/abort looked scarily awkward, and the landing looked hard too. However, the second takeoff was fantastic, and seeing it slip into and slowly disappear into that low-lying bank of grey clouds was epic!
I hate knowing this plane will likely never fly again.. but I am also very lucky to say that I’m visiting the Pima Air and Space Museum when it should arrive..
@tristantheobscure8505 Hawaii Mars had only occasional assignments for the decade before that, which were basically charity - not contracts won in open competition.
I just walked from my place to Pat Bay to see it and there were a few people on it with the APU running. It sounds like they might do a taxi test down Finlayson arm today.
Hamilton Warplane Museum need to replace an engine while on tour of Britian, years ago. Made UT back to Canada and sent engine back, with many thanks! Keep trying, you'll get there!
The Hughes H-4 Hercules was moved by ship and barge to within sight of the museum, because here was water access to do that. How would you get a barge from Sproat Lake to the ocean, and how would you get a barge from the ocean to Tucson... in the Arizona desert? Trucking anything this large thousands of kilometres through mountain range would be very difficult, if even possible.
Costs a fortune to test and certify. You can’t just rip off the piston engines and shove turboprops in their place. In addition, the entire fuel system has to be changed, plus associated instruments. Not worth the time really
What s the point in trying in a soup like that ??? Why the rush ? A rarity w a risky engine in mountainous terrain ?? More questionable questions ; such a beautiful-neatiful monster ...from Loch Ness & heading back to promordial history .... W A I T 4 god s sake. Lost all the marbles ....
@bendesroches2411 Certes, difficile mais pas impossible. Un patrimoine ça se conserve. Des moteurs il y en a encore, stockés, pour le reste : sur l'ensemble des Mars en garder un, et cannibaliser les autres pour le faire vivre, possible. Comment arrive t'on a conserver un b29 ou un mosquito....par la volonté et surtout l'argent. C'est surtout ça le problème.
Thank you to everyone who provided boat transportation and extra video footage! Also, the Mars is still in Pat Bay at the time of this video.
Go check out my buddy's video at ua-cam.com/video/ptiiszMjKrE/v-deo.htmlsi=WgV-mQ7Uz_Fc9gH9
Thank you for not adding music to this
There is music, the sound of those engines is a symphony.
@@michaelstull1695 I AGREE 100 %
When the Mars were bought from the Navy, along with the four planes came a multitude of parts including 35 spare engines…well after several decades of running these great planes, all those engines are used up and then some…the airframes are actually still in very good condition but the mechanics of it are just too hard to keep going and the cost of uptime is just too great!…it’s a shame!..they’re such beautiful planes!..
I wonder what it would have taken to put four turboprops on this beautiful bird something like some of the DC-3s getting modified.
@ tens of millions!!
@@stratos2 the DC-3’s only have two engines to deal with and the cost to retrofit them is astronomical!..Buffalo Air in Alberta have a few DC-3’s and they can build and maintain over a dozen DC-3’s for the price of one Retrofitted DC-3 with TP’s…they actually rent one from the company that rebuilds them when they get busy…but they haven’t bought one yet…
I was an employee of Martin Nuclear at Middle River, MD where these planes were built. Lived on the Seaplane Lagoon.
It's difficult enough keeping automobiles of this vintage road worthy. Hats off to the crew for their expertise and dedication.
Love the paint job on this one
This big beauty flew by my house just south of Nanaimo on the weekend just before. WOW! "Spectacular" is all I thought !
I have to wonder how they'll truck such a tall fuselage. Even without the tail, it's still an overpass underscraper, I think. Still, they managed to get a B-36 to the Pima Air & Space Museum and put it on display over 15 years ago. It's not looking too pretty these days - it's a big bird to repaint and the desert is hell on anything left in the sun. Given that PASM couldn't get that magnificent monster into a hangar, it will be a pity to watch the Mars deteriorate over the years. PASM needs a lot more hangars. BIG one's!!!
This looks awesome! Nice work!
Wonderfully video. So great to be able to watch the majestic Mars final flights. I played it over and over on a big JBL 310 party speaker ,base boost on and it sounded like I was on the camera boats.
Thank you 😊
Thank You for historic video
Phenomenal video, you captured it so well I felt like I was there.
Number 4 again. At least they can readily K-ball parts or another engine from the Hawaii Mars if needed. I want to see it arrive in Tucson
It was suppose to make it's final landing at Lake Roosevelt then be disassembled and trucked to Tucson. Put man, the cloak and dagger stuff over this ferry flight is insane! I've contacted PIMA, both phone and email, had to leave voice mail, no reply from either. Contacted Coulson, no reply, posted on other UA-cam channels, no one has any info. I realize after sitting since 2015, LOT's of maintenance bugs to work out. But they won't even tell me where on the lake it will be moored and disassembled. Like I said, who knows the exact date, it's fluid obviously. But they should have some sort of website to keep people up to date for this historic aviation event! Very strange!
@@joncox9719 They don't want too many people swarming the place and interfering with arrival. Your best updates are from the social media of the pilots and Coulson.
@@joncox9719 Yeah, unfortunately it will be really difficult to figure out when or where they will land in Arizona because they don't want any chances of boats interrupting their arrival.
They did the same with Hawaii and were still mobbed at the airport, too many spectators make the move very difficult @@joncox9719
Quit stripping Hawaii for parts.
Thx a lot for showing the old lady...😢❤
Thanks to all concerned for covering this event.
A follow up on remainder of trip would be nice, but just saying.
Great videography and audio 👍🏿🥂
wonderful
How many times did you watch this??
Good camera shots! 😊 UK.
End of an era... but not the end of the Philippine Mars!!
Yikes! The first takeoff/abort looked scarily awkward, and the landing looked hard too. However, the second takeoff was fantastic, and seeing it slip into and slowly disappear into that low-lying bank of grey clouds was epic!
My speakers can't get loud enough. I'd give a years wages to do a ride along.
Концовка совершенно эпическая...
Excellent.
I remember seeing Hawaii mars flying over departure bay on its last flight
I hate knowing this plane will likely never fly again.. but I am also very lucky to say that I’m visiting the Pima Air and Space Museum when it should arrive..
Looks like something fell off #4 right at 10:29
Wow, you’re right!
The end of a proud era for firefighting and aviation in BC.
The era of this aircraft ended a couple of decades ago.
@@brianb-p6586No, Hawaii was retired in 2015; that’s one decade.
@tristantheobscure8505 Hawaii Mars had only occasional assignments for the decade before that, which were basically charity - not contracts won in open competition.
it totally reminds me of an airplane
Any updates on her today the 20th?
I just walked from my place to Pat Bay to see it and there were a few people on it with the APU running. It sounds like they might do a taxi test down Finlayson arm today.
@@nybotor1 Thanks for the info.😄
Updates at pat bay webcam
Hamilton Warplane Museum need to replace an engine while on tour of Britian, years ago. Made UT back to Canada and sent engine back, with many thanks!
Keep trying, you'll get there!
Kind of seems like it would have made more sense to remove the wings and barge / truck it like they did with the Spruce Goose.
The Hughes H-4 Hercules was moved by ship and barge to within sight of the museum, because here was water access to do that. How would you get a barge from Sproat Lake to the ocean, and how would you get a barge from the ocean to Tucson... in the Arizona desert? Trucking anything this large thousands of kilometres through mountain range would be very difficult, if even possible.
Is it just me, or do the engines look too small for the plane? If they wanted to keep it flying, a turboprop conversion could have been done.
Costs a fortune to test and certify.
You can’t just rip off the piston engines and shove turboprops in their place. In addition, the entire fuel system has to be changed, plus associated instruments. Not worth the time really
@chazndave It's always a matter of time and money (and the will to make it happen.)
interesting on the second takeoff he didn't extend the flaps until rotation
I've seen STOL pilots do that
@ yep 👍🏾
Another REAL Flight Engineer soon to be on the unemployment line.
I still haven't figured out what engines are on this plane, CW or PW corncob.....
Wright
PUT ON : Bob Seger s "Still The Same" (no put-on here, just a pun ..) 🇫🇮
imagine taking a plane that hasnt flown in 60 years straight into IMC...
Twelve years, not sixty.
@@diggr13 i stand corrected, but its still a long time
@@diggr13 17 years
Seems it doesn’t want to live in the desert😊
What s the point in trying in a soup like that ??? Why the rush ? A rarity w a risky engine in mountainous terrain ?? More questionable questions ; such a beautiful-neatiful monster ...from Loch Ness & heading back to promordial history .... W A I T 4 god s sake. Lost all the marbles ....
Clouer au sol un bel oiseau comme ça, il n'y a que l'administration americaine pour ça....
Il n'y a plus de pieces pour les garder en vie...et le coup d'opération est trop élevé
@bendesroches2411
Certes, difficile mais pas impossible.
Un patrimoine ça se conserve.
Des moteurs il y en a encore, stockés, pour le reste : sur l'ensemble des Mars en garder un, et cannibaliser les autres pour le faire vivre, possible.
Comment arrive t'on a conserver un b29 ou un mosquito....par la volonté et surtout l'argent.
C'est surtout ça le problème.