I believe this is something that could/would happen. There's absolutely going to be people that sandbag/deny gear like this, but it's been done in just about every survival/extraction game I've seen all the way back to the early days of DayZ. Guys toss gear in bushes/hide stuff/grief stuff all the time. Insurance fraud in Tarkov is/was common practice. I don't think it really takes away from the game's potential at all. If anything, minor blemish on an otherwise "good" systemic change.
it's just how this game's community goes man. every piece of enjoyment WILL be optimised out by most players, yet every player will complain about it remember the end of last wipe, comment sections/reddit posts/discord channels were filled with people complaining about teaming? every single person complaining about teaming, no one admitting to doing it? yet, when you got into the lobby, it was one non-teamer vs the lobby of teamers. that is this community.
I am once more, asking for druid LOL. Here's hoping soon, I have played the breaks off it on ptr with friends. Lots of wonky/questionable stuff you can do, wondering how much will make it to live. Keep up the good work onepeg and ironmace.
@@creepyoutdoors4451 lol. Someone bad at math and logics. At math because your statement (94% lost) implies that the game was 100k+ players, which was really never the case. At logics because losing players by this game has no straight corellation with how devs handle feedback. It was more legal issues due to Steam removal and hype issues due to ppl initially wanting to check out a new take on a popular extraction genre. I hope devs understand as well that this dynamic they have is perfectly fine, all they should do is keep making THE game, if it will be THE game, the ppl will come right back on Steam return or on stable release.
@@shipso6116 It had 100k+ Players and I with many of my friends left because Ironmace kept drastically changing random stuff and breaking their game instead of fleshing out the basics.
It's a shame they just started updating the game while listening to the community after losing fifty thousand players in about two months.. The community said we didn't like multi classing in the test server. So they pushed it live and pushed away over half the player base. Then,after having multi glass out for almost a month and fixing the exp problems with multiclassing they removed it. So they lost another half of their now dwindling player base because the only players that were remaining enjoyed multiclassing.. So now we are here. Dying game that most of the players that used to play it do not care about. It's a true shame if only they would have listened to their player base about a year ago.
Great changes… other than the fact we only have 2 weeks to get these rewards… and they’re all very difficult to get… and they broke warlock which takes away more time we coulda spent on grinding…
Yeah but i would blame game design rather than blame the people for playing the game game is designed in a way where you always either statcheck someone or you are statchecked by someone lol
the hopes for the next wipe are extremely high, people are way past the honeymoon of this game and really looking for a reason to play again. this wipe could be make or break, atleast until steamrelease brings second wind to this game for a a few months.
they'd have to do a ton of work to somewhat balance that against the parry spinbotters and ritalin kids crying "skill ceiling!" That's gonna be a hard thing to do.
Mordhau and chiv are the only games I'd advocate for SBMM style matchmaking, tbh, that would have helped player numbers. As for balancing against dragging, mordhau already has a drag limiter, but exploit wise, people always find something in melee games to cheese. Just would need proactive QA, community, and devs.
@@WhySoTilted they will never ever add it,casuals bots cry about everything what tryharders can achieve by playing almost all day, but casuals dont have time, skill, etc
The best time of dark and darker was during the playtests; we all didn't know what we were doing, discovering the dungeon it was scary and challenging etc... Now everyone's is a hardcore sweatlord, boring af
Game is going to crash and burn. I have zero faith in these devs now. If they don't kill their own game cheaters definitely will. I have never seen devs so soft on bans for HC cheats.
Whats goin on mate? What an AWFUL state the game is in. These devs communicate to you, dont they? Shame they can't give the community an inkling as to when this second 12hr+ downtime will end. Is this it? Is it finally, officially dead?
Welp... time to stop playing this game then. Bought the game because they were saying there wouldn't be any wipes. Wipes are unnecessary nonsense that morons think "keeps it alive". kits are lost 24/7, you don't need wipes for that. Hate games that do this stupid shit. There's a reason Path of Exile is flopping in the wind. People come for the new, and leave because none of it matters anyways since it'll be wiped before too long. Just another trash game.
Does this mean on a map like ice caves, If you are in fear of losing your kit, you could jump into the void and still get your stuff back?
I believe this is something that could/would happen.
There's absolutely going to be people that sandbag/deny gear like this, but it's been done in just about every survival/extraction game I've seen all the way back to the early days of DayZ. Guys toss gear in bushes/hide stuff/grief stuff all the time. Insurance fraud in Tarkov is/was common practice. I don't think it really takes away from the game's potential at all. If anything, minor blemish on an otherwise "good" systemic change.
Perhaps items which go out of the map become unrecoverable?
@@Varrxionwill test
i'd bet
it's just how this game's community goes man. every piece of enjoyment WILL be optimised out by most players, yet every player will complain about it
remember the end of last wipe, comment sections/reddit posts/discord channels were filled with people complaining about teaming? every single person complaining about teaming, no one admitting to doing it?
yet, when you got into the lobby, it was one non-teamer vs the lobby of teamers. that is this community.
I think the insurance thingy is really great for people who want to practice bosses in high roller.
thank you for the Patch notes overview
my casual experience is on par now i will enjoy playing more cause with college i cant play 15 hour days of nothing no more :c
always good news updates, thanks. honestly im still waiting for a steam release.
Thank you for all you do brotha
thank you for the update sir , keep up the good work .
I am once more, asking for druid LOL. Here's hoping soon, I have played the breaks off it on ptr with friends. Lots of wonky/questionable stuff you can do, wondering how much will make it to live. Keep up the good work onepeg and ironmace.
It'll probably come next season.
Last time they had a little special event during that week time from end of season to wipe
Thanks for the video!
Hallelujah 🎉
Anyone want to be that they have a dupe bug and need to roll back?
A lot of good QoL changes here. The Devs do seem to listen to us players and i love that.
I'm sure thats why they lost 94% of player base
@@creepyoutdoors4451 lol. Someone bad at math and logics. At math because your statement (94% lost) implies that the game was 100k+ players, which was really never the case. At logics because losing players by this game has no straight corellation with how devs handle feedback. It was more legal issues due to Steam removal and hype issues due to ppl initially wanting to check out a new take on a popular extraction genre. I hope devs understand as well that this dynamic they have is perfectly fine, all they should do is keep making THE game, if it will be THE game, the ppl will come right back on Steam return or on stable release.
@@shipso6116 It had 100k+ Players and I with many of my friends left because Ironmace kept drastically changing random stuff and breaking their game instead of fleshing out the basics.
They seem to listen to us? You're joking, surely|?!
It's a shame they just started updating the game while listening to the community after losing fifty thousand players in about two months.. The community said we didn't like multi classing in the test server. So they pushed it live and pushed away over half the player base. Then,after having multi glass out for almost a month and fixing the exp problems with multiclassing they removed it. So they lost another half of their now dwindling player base because the only players that were remaining enjoyed multiclassing.. So now we are here. Dying game that most of the players that used to play it do not care about. It's a true shame if only they would have listened to their player base about a year ago.
It's not dying
@@Nathanimalit is dude. the lobbies are dead compared to how they were like 6+ months ago
Is it true there are only like 7k people playing at peak times?
@@Nathanimal it is
Great changes… other than the fact we only have 2 weeks to get these rewards… and they’re all very difficult to get… and they broke warlock which takes away more time we coulda spent on grinding…
Use me as a like button if you got baited on the first bit of the title and was hoping for a Tarkov wipe date
Yeah dark and darker was fun then the people who play 23 hours a day ruined it. Cant have fun gotta be the fucking best sweaty nerd.
Yea, metagaming back at it again to ruin the fun out of everything.
Yeah but i would blame game design rather than blame the people for playing the game
game is designed in a way where you always either statcheck someone or you are statchecked by someone lol
Winning is fun, being better than others is even more fun so whats your problem
the hopes for the next wipe are extremely high, people are way past the honeymoon of this game and really looking for a reason to play again. this wipe could be make or break, atleast until steamrelease brings second wind to this game for a a few months.
11 pm and the servers are down again I think. Can't still be down right?
Where is arena and ruins? Im pretty sure they promised it this season …
Chivalary/Mordhau style extraction game when? Much better melee combat would make for a more fun experience.
they'd have to do a ton of work to somewhat balance that against the parry spinbotters and ritalin kids crying "skill ceiling!"
That's gonna be a hard thing to do.
there’s a reason why mordhau has 800 players rn, and imo it’s cuz the combat is wayyyyyy to hard for new players to get into, chiv2 tho? sex
@@Midwestemoisme I've not played a lot of chiv, but I agree with this somewhat.
Mordhau and chiv are the only games I'd advocate for SBMM style matchmaking, tbh, that would have helped player numbers. As for balancing against dragging, mordhau already has a drag limiter, but exploit wise, people always find something in melee games to cheese. Just would need proactive QA, community, and devs.
@@WhySoTilted they will never ever add it,casuals bots cry about everything what tryharders can achieve by playing almost all day, but casuals dont have time, skill, etc
Wipe Inc? Wonderful, maybe now I'll finally give it more than 15 hours of getting stomped by goblin poison and not knowing certain game mechanics lmao
they had to redue the update because warlock demon was not able to be hit..
still no content what does dark and darker and Marauder have in common they're both dead for the same reason
24 hr maintenance.
The best time of dark and darker was during the playtests; we all didn't know what we were doing, discovering the dungeon it was scary and challenging etc... Now everyone's is a hardcore sweatlord, boring af
Game is going to crash and burn. I have zero faith in these devs now. If they don't kill their own game cheaters definitely will. I have never seen devs so soft on bans for HC cheats.
Can we please get rid of creep? Just please
remove creep remove in game chat xD
pretty over dark and darker ngl.
No one asked
It don’t feel the same
And?
@@deajm3332and I agree
Yeah removing mc was bs
Wow a whole week without smack talking tarkov. I’m glad u stoped chasing the clout.
Whats goin on mate? What an AWFUL state the game is in. These devs communicate to you, dont they? Shame they can't give the community an inkling as to when this second 12hr+ downtime will end. Is this it? Is it finally, officially dead?
You’re falling off because they games you cover are falling off
Welp... time to stop playing this game then. Bought the game because they were saying there wouldn't be any wipes. Wipes are unnecessary nonsense that morons think "keeps it alive". kits are lost 24/7, you don't need wipes for that. Hate games that do this stupid shit. There's a reason Path of Exile is flopping in the wind. People come for the new, and leave because none of it matters anyways since it'll be wiped before too long. Just another trash game.